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Originally posted by Hero:

People should be required to have mandatory training in local, community based facilities to teach ethics, morality, community service, and family values. There are many such facilities already in place...mine is a fine old institution called First United Methodist Church.

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Originally posted by kpo:
Didn't Geezer already try this same tack?

Has the thought not occurred to you that if you limit the firepower available to sick psychopaths, their actions might be less devestating?

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Timothy McVeigh. 168 killed and 800 injured. Weapon - Fertilizer and fuel oil.

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Then again, if you took the time and money required to confiscate every weapon in the U.S.

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
So the right-wing argument seems to be centering around the idea that if you can't stop all murders, it's useless to think about even trying to stop any of them.
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So the right-wing argument seems to be centering around the idea that if you can't stop all murders, it's useless to think about even trying to stop any of them.
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You should be familiar with the argument...it's the same reason we don't deport illegal aliens.

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Originally posted by Hero:

You can't take away the guns, it's a nonstarter.

Sure you want to, but it won't pass the House and the Court has ruled on it so it stays. But suppose you could, are you seriously going door to door? You think 20 kids is a lot, what your talking about is civil war.

And let's face it, your outgunned. Whose going to fight it for you? Cops and soldiers will be on both sides.

So if you want solutions the answer is better security, more training, and more state and local mental health resources.

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Hero...must be right on all of this. ALL of the rest of us are wrong. Chrisisall, 2012

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Restricting sales of high-capacity magazines and semi-auto assault rifles puts them out of reach of most of the general public. Requiring liability insurance for all owners tends to keep them that way.

You have this idiotic notion that someone is coming to your door tomorrow to confiscate your precious little toys. They aren't. We're talking about making it more difficult for you to add to your arsenal or replace them with similar weapons when they get old and wear out.

You expect an overnight solution. I expect a generational one. It took quite a while for full-auto machineguns to get out of the mainstream once they were banned for sale of new-manufacture versions, but when was the last time you bought one at a gun show, or even saw anyone with one owned legally?

You seem to think that there would be a huge uprising against any such measure, but you yourself should realize there really won't be. The American people are, by and large, generally meek and cowardly, especially the gun freaks, and will do as they're told by their masters, because even the veterans among them are trained to take and follow orders. There simply isn't going to be a massive revolution if you go to the gun show and can't buy a 75-round banana clip tomorrow or a 30-rounder the next month. You'll learn to live with a 5- or 10-round magazine, just like you did between 1994 and 2004, and like I did as well. Where was your precious civil war then?

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