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Friday, February 15, 2013 2:42 PM

America loves a winner!

'Lincoln' Screenwriter: Obama Win a Rejection of 'Psychotic' Reagan Era Ideology

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And now that we're facing challenges like climate change that absolutely demand a global collective response, an organized global collective response. We have no hope for survival as a species if we continue down the path of this kind of psychotic individualism...I think we're beginning to see, in the last election we saw, I think, a real rejection. I mean what Romney basically had to offer was the same old trickle-down nonsense and people said I don't believe it any more.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2013/02/15/lincoln-scree
nwriter-obama-win-rejection-psychotic-reagan-era-ideo#ixzz2L17n59cC

Curious...

“We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all.” - Nikita Khrushchev

“The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of humanity and to substitute for them the folk community, rooted in the soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood.” - Benito Mussolini

“We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what’s best for society.” - Hillary Clinton

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2012/oct/11/war-against-indiv
idualism/

So, being a INDIVIDUAL is a liberal mindset, is it ? So says Mussolini. So why then, are all these LIBERALS so hell bent on destroying the concept of the individual ?

Ayn Rand sums it up quite nicely ... “The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.”

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Friday, February 15, 2013 3:26 PM

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

STFU slave and eat your McChickennuggets!

California police chief: The idea that a gun is a defensive weapon is a ‘myth’
http://washingtonexaminer.com/california-police-chief-the-idea-that-a-
gun-is-a-defensive-weapon-is-a-myth/article/2521563

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"One issue that always boggles my mind is that the idea that a gun is a defensive weapon. That is a myth. A gun is not a defensive weapon. A gun is an offensive weapon used to intimidate and show power. Police officers don’t carry weapons to defend themselves, but to do their job in a safe and effective manner.”
-Police Chief Ken James, Emeryville, California and the Police Chief Association’s Firearms Committee Chairman

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Friday, February 15, 2013 3:47 PM

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PN, thanks for nothing.

Really. You entirely missed the point.

Again.

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Friday, February 15, 2013 10:05 PM

So because you saw the word "collective" used, you immediately rejected the content of what they were saying (you can't face the causes and consequences of climate change individually but only as a global society) and went straight for Communism and Fascism instead?

There is a LOT of wiggle room between complete individualism and complete, de-individualized conformity. Why go for the utter extreme when you could just look at what they meant in this individual statement?

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 2:52 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Marco Rubio summed up Reaganism quite nicely in his SOTU "rebuttal": I got mine, and fuck you. He's glad he had the collectivist student loan program to get through school, but fuck you if you ever want or need help from the government. He's great with his mom sucking off the government tit, but fuck you if you think you deserve a penny of that Social Security money you've been paying into for the last 50 years.

Yeah, that kind of "individualism" *IS* psychotic. As is the modern conservative movement. And, like another kind of "movement", this is one that should be flushed immediately.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:01 AM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
So because you saw the word "collective" used, you immediately rejected the content of what they were saying (you can't face the causes and consequences of climate change individually but only as a global society) and went straight for Communism and Fascism instead?

Mussolini and Khrushchev weren't talking about global warming, but global control.

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There is a LOT of wiggle room between complete individualism and complete, de-individualized conformity. Why go for the utter extreme when you could just look at what they meant in this individual statement?

The ones going to the utter extreme are those on the Left. The Founding Fathers were well aware that govt was a necessary evil, but warned of it getting too big. As it clearly has become.

And yes, Kwickie, I got mine, so keep your damn hands off.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:17 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I got mine, so keep your damn hands off.

Yup. Psychotic individualism writ small.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:24 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:

I got mine, so keep your damn hands off.

Yup. Psychotic individualism writ small.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 3:37 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Mussolini and Khrushchev weren't talking about global warming, but global control.

But you chose to create a connection between those two and the original piece on climate change. THAT's the thing I'm questioning.

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There is a LOT of wiggle room between complete individualism and complete, de-individualized conformity. Why go for the utter extreme when you could just look at what they meant in this individual statement?

The ones going to the utter extreme are those on the Left. The Founding Fathers were well aware that govt was a necessary evil, but warned of it getting too big. As it clearly has become.

What on earth is extreme about the opinion that global climate change cannot be solely addressed at an individual level?

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:13 AM

Hey Mr. Auraptor,

He was talking about GLOBAL Warming. That means that everybody in the world will be affected, not just the US. Do you think that if we just close our eyes that we, as a nation, will not be affected by the results?

Do you think we will solely survive climate change while the rest of the world goes down in flames? Will America separate from the rest of the world and somehow float safely on the rising oceans? And what does Mussolini have to do with it?

Everyone in the industrial nations must come together to at least nullify the effects of climate change, or we will suffer along with the rest of the WORLD.

Consider the water bottle................

Now, how does Mussolini fit into that. Go ahead, make the connection.

SGG

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:15 AM

Is it psychotic to think I got mine, fuck you?

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

'Lincoln' Screenwriter: Obama Win a Rejection of 'Psychotic' Reagan Era Ideology

Quote:

And now that we're facing challenges like climate change that absolutely demand a global collective response, an organized global collective response. We have no hope for survival as a species if we continue down the path of this kind of psychotic individualism...I think we're beginning to see, in the last election we saw, I think, a real rejection. I mean what Romney basically had to offer was the same old trickle-down nonsense and people said I don't believe it any more.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2013/02/15/lincoln-scree
nwriter-obama-win-rejection-psychotic-reagan-era-ideo#ixzz2L17n59cC

Curious...

“We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all.” - Nikita Khrushchev

“The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of humanity and to substitute for them the folk community, rooted in the soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood.” - Benito Mussolini

“We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what’s best for society.” - Hillary Clinton

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2012/oct/11/war-against-indiv
idualism/

So, being a INDIVIDUAL is a liberal mindset, is it ? So says Mussolini. So why then, are all these LIBERALS so hell bent on destroying the concept of the individual ?

Ayn Rand sums it up quite nicely ... “The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.”

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:35 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Mussolini and Khrushchev weren't talking about global warming, but global control.

But you chose to create a connection between those two and the original piece on climate change. THAT's the thing I'm questioning.

The original piece wasn't about 'climate change', at all. That was just one facet of the discussion,on how Obama doing super great things, and part of that is waging war on the individual.

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What on earth is extreme about the opinion that global climate change cannot be solely addressed at an individual level?

The opinion that man caused global change is itself - REAL -, and also that the govt can use this phony issue as a excuse for taxing the hell out everything, all under the guise of ' saving the planet '.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:40 AM

You forgot to post this as a part of his statement:

"The individual is very important but just as important to human beings is our relational capacity."

Just sayin'

SGG

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2013/02/15/lincoln-scree
nwriter-obama-win-rejection-psychotic-reagan-era-ideo#ixzz2L4aw2mxO

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

'Lincoln' Screenwriter: Obama Win a Rejection of 'Psychotic' Reagan Era Ideology

Quote:

And now that we're facing challenges like climate change that absolutely demand a global collective response, an organized global collective response. We have no hope for survival as a species if we continue down the path of this kind of psychotic individualism...I think we're beginning to see, in the last election we saw, I think, a real rejection. I mean what Romney basically had to offer was the same old trickle-down nonsense and people said I don't believe it any more.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/geoffrey-dickens/2013/02/15/lincoln-scree
nwriter-obama-win-rejection-psychotic-reagan-era-ideo#ixzz2L17n59cC

Curious...

“We must abolish the cult of the individual decisively, once and for all.” - Nikita Khrushchev

“The main plank in the National Socialist program is to abolish the liberalistic concept of the individual and the Marxist concept of humanity and to substitute for them the folk community, rooted in the soil and bound together by the bond of its common blood.” - Benito Mussolini

“We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what’s best for society.” - Hillary Clinton

http://www.boortz.com/weblogs/nealz-nuze/2012/oct/11/war-against-indiv
idualism/

So, being a INDIVIDUAL is a liberal mindset, is it ? So says Mussolini. So why then, are all these LIBERALS so hell bent on destroying the concept of the individual ?

Ayn Rand sums it up quite nicely ... “The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities.”

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 4:50 AM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Mr. Auraptor,

He was talking about GLOBAL Warming. That means that everybody in the world will be affected, not just the US. Do you think that if we just close our eyes that we, as a nation, will not be affected by the results?

No, he wasn't.

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Do you think we will solely survive climate change while the rest of the world goes down in flames? Will America separate from the rest of the world and somehow float safely on the rising oceans? And what does Mussolini have to do with it?

The oceans rise and fall, through out the millennia. Always have. Climate change does occur, and will always occur, but there's nothing man can do to stop it.

This issue has nothing to do w/ Climate change. Mussolini was talking about the need to basically enslave everyone into the mindset that what's good for the State is all that really matters. That point of view runs counter to the very idea of what the Founders of this country had in mind.

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Everyone in the industrial nations must come together to at least nullify the effects of climate change, or we will suffer along with the rest of the WORLD.

SGG

Do we need to do more to clean up this planet ? Yep. Is there anything we can do to " nullify " climate change? No way in hell. Nor should we even try.

But since you're so hell bent on making this about climate change ( credit the propaganda machine which has you seeing this as any sort of an issue at all, instead of the bigger point, of govt power gone amok ) Remember what Hugo Chavez said, at where?

A 'climate control' conference.

Quoting Karl Marx , for starters. You ask me what it has to do w/ climate change?

Ask Hugo Chavez the same question. It has NOTHING to do w/ climate change. It has to do w/ massive, big govt control, and abolishing the rights of the individual.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:04 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The original piece wasn't about 'climate change', at all. That was just one facet of the discussion,on how Obama doing super great things, and part of that is waging war on the individual.

So you just chose to leave out all those other parts in your initial rant, right? You decided to focus on the quote about climate change, and then you're made because people took you at your word and discussed climate change as a problem bigger than any one individual, and now you're shitting your diaper about that. Funny.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:39 AM

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I made no 'rant'. The comments by the screen writer were about the war on individualism, I clearly pointed that out. The title of the piece , which I linked to, was exactly about that, and had zero to do with global warming. Says so , right at the top of the thread.

The only one here w/ messy poopy pants is you, Kwickie.

Ya might want to see to that.

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Saturday, February 16, 2013 6:45 PM

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The motives of the Left , as admirable as they may seem, will always been unattainable because of the methods they use.

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Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:09 AM

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Originally posted by ElfWatcher:
Please remember that the full name of the NAZI party (Which Hitler co-opted) was the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party. Yeah folks, they were left wingers.

That is absolute horseshit.

Hitler and his ilk put actual socialists into camps before they even started on the Jewish people. They were right wing. Far radical right wing.

You seriously want to stop trying to rewrite history because you recognize a few terms in their party name and then conflate that to mean something it doesn't.

Seriously, you don't need to use Hitler if you want to demonstrate that Socialism/Communism has its horrid potential. Just go with the classic Russian example and be content. I mean, ffs, do you really think you need pretend-lefty Hitler for that?

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Sunday, February 17, 2013 3:42 AM

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Originally posted by AgentRouka:
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Originally posted by ElfWatcher:
Please remember that the full name of the NAZI party (Which Hitler co-opted) was the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party. Yeah folks, they were left wingers.

That is absolute horseshit.

Hitler and his ilk put actual socialists into camps before they even started on the Jewish people. They were right wing. Far radical right wing.

No, they weren't. That's the great misconception that is pushed by , gee, I wonder who? But it's completely false.

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You seriously want to stop trying to rewrite history because you recognize a few terms in their party name and then conflate that to mean something it doesn't.

Seriously, you don't need to use Hitler if you want to demonstrate that Socialism/Communism has its horrid potential. Just go with the classic Russian example and be content. I mean, ffs, do you really think you need pretend-lefty Hitler for that?

Probably should learn your history some more then.

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Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:54 PM

Oooookay. I really didn't know this sort of revisionist history angle was even a thing. Like, a serious thing. Honestly baffled.

Is this where you put Stalin and Hitler and Mussolini and Franco and every other dictator firmly in the left wing corner to "prove" that all left thought is evil and nothing bad could ever arise from the political right? Is that the angle? I mean, do you honestly think that the further right you go nothing bad could lurk at the extreme end? That the political spectrum is a one-direction line from good to evil? That all totalitarian oppression could only arise from one corner only? What about theocratic oppression, is that also born from extreme left-wing socialism? What?

So who's given credible evidence for that theory, then? And why, oh why, did Hitler so brutally act against his socialist brethren if they all wanted the same thing?

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Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:42 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Hitler was pretty quick to outlaw labor unions. Who in recent history has worked towards that goal here in the U.S.?

Putting up roadblocks to voting, making it plain that *some people* clearly shouldn't be voting...

The list of things Rappy doesn't know about Hitler and the Nazis would fill a book large enough to stun a team of oxen.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:50 PM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by ElfWatcher:
Hitler, Mussolini, and Stalin (not to mention Hillary, who has said similar things) Detested individualism. They view people as instruments of the state. cogs in a wheel that were there to be directed and used.

And by the way, the "liberals" that Mussolini spoke of would not recognize the "liberals" of today. However, both he and Hitler would. Please remember that the full name of the NAZI party (Which Hitler co-opted) was the National SOCIALIST German WORKERS Party. Yeah folks, they were left wingers. The "liberals" of the 1930 believed in individual liberty and freedom, those of today try to quench it in the name of "community" (Their new term for collectivism)

I take it you're against the idea of people working together as a community, then? Even the right's beloved tea parties?

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This nation was built by individuals. At times they VOLUNTARILY joined together on ships or wagon trains to set out for the unknown. At other times they set out alone, intent on facing and conquering whatever they encountered on their way to making a new life for themselves. However they chose to do it they had one thing in common. They were escaping the all encompassing gaze of government, who they viewed as an impediment, not a help.

Well, except for that time that they all banded together to win their freedom from England, and then took the added pains of writing down in a very specific document all the rules that bound them all together from them on.

Or did you think that each of the thirteen colonies decided to fight the British Empire all on its own?

I'll have to remember that the next time I'm tempted to listen to any history lessons from you, noobie. You're zero for one here so far.

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I've always believed that it is far better to learn from other folk's mistakes. As a father of six I've been amazed as how many times we don't.

Stop. Just stop talking. You sound stupider with every word. Seriously, I'm supposed to listen to someone who had six kids before he figured out how to pull out? You're the one saying we should learn from mistakes? You had six tries and still didn't learn. You seem to be quite a slow study.

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All one has to do it take a look around the world as see the economic mess the socialist mentality has wrought. ALL have a lower standard of living than we do.

"ALL have a lower standard of living than we do"? Really? Switzerland? Denmark? The Netherlands? Sweden? Japan? All lower standards of living? Hell, every country that has a higher standard of living than we do is more socialist than the U.S. is.

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The progressive's reaction? let's be like THEM! Really??? Still more proof of the arrested adolescent co-dependence today's liberals suffer from.

And where has unfettered free-market no-holds-barred/no-regulations/no-rules capitalism thrived and resulted in a higher standard of living? Sudan? Sierra Leone? Afghanistan?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Sunday, February 17, 2013 9:53 PM

Beir bua agus beannacht

Man. With a title like that I thought this thread was going to be interesting. No such luck.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Monday, February 18, 2013 1:17 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Hitler was pretty quick to outlaw labor unions. Who in recent history has worked towards that goal here in the U.S.?

No one.

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Putting up roadblocks to voting, making it plain that *some people* clearly shouldn't be voting...

Some people clearly shouldn't be voting. Those who aren't citizens, for one. Those not of age, or mentally competent, or dead. And it's important to make sure folks only vote for once, and not several times over, in the same election.

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The list of things Rappy doesn't know about Hitler and the Nazis would fill a book large enough to stun a team of oxen.

Yeah, it's funny to see you say stuff, simply to hear yourself.

But then, not all of us are connoisseurs of Hitler's art, as you seem to be.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 1:25 AM

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Originally posted by RionaEire:
Man. With a title like that I thought this thread was going to be interesting. No such luck.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

That's because certain folks here are too afraid to discuss the issue, being so in love with and beholden to the concept of big govt, and nanny state policies.

Freedom is a 4 letter word to them. They're all Julias now, or dream to be.

I wonder how many of them eagerly tried to 'click to get started' on the bottom of that image. Idiots.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 4:42 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

The list of things Rappy doesn't know about Hitler and the Nazis would fill a book large enough to stun a team of oxen.

Yeah, it's funny to see you say stuff, simply to hear yourself.

But then, not all of us are connoisseurs of Hitler's art, as you seem to be.

Thank you for providing such a pristine example of exactly what I was talking about. That's just one of the myriad things you know absolutely nothing about where Hitler is concerned.

And as usual, you felt you just had to pop off about something you know nothing about, and then accuse others of saying stuff simply to hear themselves.

Nazism is widely regarded as a right-wing ideology, along with fascism. You might not like that fact, because you are a right-wing fascist yourself, but that doesn't make it any less true.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, February 18, 2013 4:44 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

That's because certain folks here are too afraid to discuss the issue, being so in love with and beholden to the concept of big govt, and nanny state policies.

Are you talking about NASA now?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, February 18, 2013 5:03 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

Nazism is widely regarded as a right-wing ideology, along with fascism. You might not like that fact, because you are a right-wing fascist yourself, but that doesn't make it any less true.

Widely regarded as 'right wing' ideology , by extreme, hard core LEFT WINGER propagandists, who want to distort the facts. Sure.

Fascism is all about the Left wing, big govt control over the individual, which is exactly the opposite for what the freedom loving, TEA Party types stand.

But keep trying. After nearly a decade, proving that you're no closer to getting it, does't mean you'll never get a clue.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 5:49 AM

If only fringe left-wing propaganda supports the idea that fascism is born of the radical right-wing, it should be easy for you to find citations from numerous respected, neutral historical sources to support your opinion? Or, really, any neutral and respected source?

Unless you mean to imply that the general body of historical research is left-wing propaganda and only a small, brave enclave of a privileged few know the "real truth"? I mean, I know I generally consult the Oxford dictionary as my preferred piece of fringe communist propaganda, but I didn't know that the righteous and just were aware of just how radical that basic dictionary was. Geez, you guys are good.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 6:01 AM

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Most of the universities are dominated by big govt, far Left wingers, so anything they don't like or want the public to loathe is going to be painted as " right wing " .

But big govt is ALWAYS a left wing ideology, no matter what guise it takes. It runs counter to what the founders of this country had in mind, assuming anyone actually teaches real US history any more.

I'm guessing that's not too often the case these days.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 6:02 AM

Absolute monarchy, by that definition, is a left-wing theory?

Are you even reading your own words?

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Monday, February 18, 2013 6:04 AM

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Absolute monarchy, by that definition, is a left-wing theory?

Are you even reading your own words?

I never typed in 'absolute monarchy'. Re-read what I posted.

Govt is a necessary evil, It should exist, but not be given too much power. The US Constitution was pretty clear on that matter.

It's not that complicated.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 6:06 AM

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But big govt is ALWAYS a left wing ideology, no matter what guise it takes.

What is absolute monarchy if not big government?

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Monday, February 18, 2013 6:44 AM

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.

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Oooookay. I really didn't know this sort of revisionist history angle was even a thing. Like, a serious thing. Honestly baffled.

It is! God love them.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 7:05 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Well, I was wrong when I assumed people don't much change. PN is getting more reasonable and little rappy is becoming PN. Yo there little rappy! When are we going to start reading about the Nazi Jewish Queen sacrificing young boys at Bohemian Grove?

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Monday, February 18, 2013 7:24 AM

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Oooookay. I really didn't know this sort of revisionist history angle was even a thing. Like, a serious thing. Honestly baffled.

It is! God love them.

It's not personal. It's just war.

Your ignorance of the founding of this country, and the reasons govt was meant to be kept in check, does not equate to me being a 'revisionist'.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 7:25 AM

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Well, I was wrong when I assumed people don't much change. PN is getting more reasonable and little rappy is becoming PN. Yo there little rappy! When are we going to start reading about the Nazi Jewish Queen sacrificing young boys at Bohemian Grove?

Umm, you'd have to ask PN, not me. Seems your claims that he's become more reasonable are some what exaggerated.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 7:32 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

So you don't deny you've gotten loonier and loonier. Interesting.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 7:38 AM

I'm as conservative as you can get, but I've never once thought of liberals as being Nazis or any other type of fascists, and whether any of them have thought that of us is irrelevant. They have their views, and we have ours; all proud parts of the political and cultural debate. The cornerstone of representative democracy in America is the vote, and it's proven itself as the best remedy to any perceived tyranny for 230 years.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 8:00 AM

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So you don't deny you've gotten loonier and loonier. Interesting.

Why should I deny something which has no basis in reality ?

Denying it would imply that I was loony in the first place.

" Have you stopped beating your wife " , sort of nonsense.

And Jong, having different political views is all well and good, just like being able to worship different gods. But once your practices start infringing upon MY rights, then it becomes a problem. The reasonable response isn't " Oh, let's all just be civil, and live and let live ". No, it's to stand up for your rights, and push them back across the line they've crossed.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 8:24 AM

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And Jong, having different political views is all well and good, just like being able to worship different gods. But once your practices start infringing upon MY rights, then it becomes a problem. The reasonable response isn't " Oh, let's all just be civil, and live and let live ". No, it's to stand up for your rights, and push them back across the line they've crossed.

First we have to accept the fact that we do live in a civil society. There's too much personal sensitivity about almost everything these days. A person's perceived rights aren't always necessarily valid, but if they truly are, then he must seek judicial remedy through the courts. Big issues can lead to protests and political movements. These actions influence public opinion which may or may not manifest itself in the outcome of next vote. No matter what happens, there's always another election around the corner. That's the great thing about democracy...you can't always win.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 8:26 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

But once your practices start infringing upon MY rights, then it becomes a problem. The reasonable response isn't " Oh, let's all just be civil, and live and let live ". No, it's to stand up for your rights, and push them back across the line they've crossed.

I find it amazingly ironic that you would still support the invasion and occupation of Iraq. What would you have said in 2003 to any Iraqi voicing just such an opinion as you've stated here?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, February 18, 2013 8:51 AM

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Well, you do bring up a valid comparison, Kwickie.

Obama and the Left truly are waging a unilateral war on American citizen's rights.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 9:11 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by kpo:
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Oooookay. I really didn't know this sort of revisionist history angle was even a thing. Like, a serious thing. Honestly baffled.

It is! God love them.

It's not personal. It's just war.

Your ignorance of the founding of this country, and the reasons govt was meant to be kept in check, does not equate to me being a 'revisionist'.

No, you amoeba, we're talking about your historical revisionism of characterising Hitler as left-wing.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 11:37 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Well, you do bring up a valid comparison, Kwickie.

Obama and the Left truly are waging a unilateral war on American citizen's rights.

So Bush & Co. *weren't* liberators, but were indeed waging a unilateral war on Iraqi citizens' rights?

It only took you a decade to figure that out.

Meanwhile, here's another of those big-gubmint liberals you hate so much:

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Monday, February 18, 2013 12:29 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I have to say, little rappy is a flagrant display of lack of facts and illogic in this thread. I would go through it all but that would take too much time - and certainly not do him any good. Yanno, the whole thing about FACTS actually causing people like him to burrow deeper into the warm shit of their ideology instead of coming into the light of mental clarity.

I do want to point out one of his howlers, though.

He clearly doesn't know what the phrase "cult of the individual" means. Now, a simple Google search could have given him context, which of course he failed to do. Apparently, like with Geezer and Wulfie, the inability to learn to use Google is part and parcel of the mindset.

'Cult of the individual' is a translation from Russian. In the speech given it refers to the worship of a single hero, the assumption that a single 'fearless leader' is responsible for the arc of human history. For example, here are two quotes from the speech ...

"... everything making for superstitious worship of authority would be deleted from its statute (of Marxism) ..."

"... While ascribing great importance to the role of the leaders and organizers of the masses, Lenin at the same time mercilessly stigmatized every manifestation of the cult of the individual, inexorably combated the foreign-to-Marxism views about a "hero" and a "crowd" and countered all efforts to oppose a "hero" to the masses and to the people."

In other words, it's not about individual-ISM, it's about worshiping a single individual as paramount above all others.

A better translation would have been 'cult of AN individual', or, as has been re-expressed 'cult of personality'.

But hey, I hope he keeps it up, b/c frankly, he was warned years ago that the path of being an ideologue is a path to insanity - and it amuses me to see him resolutely marching along it. I hope to see more examples of his devolving mentation in the future.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 1:27 PM

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Nice spin, ikiki. If that what you have to tell yourself, by all means...

How curious that you blindly buy into the propaganda they shovel, as a means for why the commies did what they did, en route to murdering millions of INDIVIDUALS who didn't buy into the collectivist ideals.

Pity their slaughter didn't teach you anything.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 2:03 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Yes, why should you actually READ WHAT WAS SAID in order to know the actual words - when you can just make shit up on your own? Or in this case, parrot it from a website that's nearly as ignorant as you are - b/c frankly, you don't have the brains to think this crap up.

BTW - nowhere did I claim that what they said was true, just that it's what they, yanno, actually said.

But far be it from me to try to educate you. You're too amusing as you are. Carry on little parrot.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 2:09 PM

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I have to say, little rappy is a flagrant display of lack of facts and illogic in this thread.

Indeed, though I see it slightly differently. This thread is just further proof that the Rap exists for no other purpose but to illustrate the preposterous stupidity of the modern neocon Right. His posts paint a vivid, detailed picture of the utter nonsense of Teabag/Koch/Faux/Rush/etc for those of us who would otherwise never experience it firsthand. It's close to brilliant, how he brings the Word of the Ridiculous Right to the masses. It's just a shame that he's too much of a stereotype to be quite believed.

Anyhow, thanks again Rappy (or the hand in the sock, as the case may be) for doing such a fine job of making the rest of us look good. No one could do it the way you do.

Carry on.

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Monday, February 18, 2013 2:21 PM

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I exist to be a counter to the complete and utter idiots who buy into the lies of the Left.

And there are many, many gullible morons.

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