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Chechen man who was fatally shot by an FBI agent last week during an interview about one of the Boston bombing suspects was unarmed, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

An air of mystery has surrounded the FBI shooting of Ibragim Todashev, 27, since it occurred in Todashev’s apartment early on the morning of May 22. The FBI said in a news release that day that Todashev, a former Boston resident who knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was killed during an interview with several law enforcement officers.


The FBI has provided few other details, saying that the matter is being investigated by an FBI review team that may not finish its probe for several months.

“The FBI takes very seriously any shooting incidents involving our agents and as such we have an effective, time-tested process for addressing them internally,” FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said in a statement Wednesday. “The review process is thorough and objective and conducted as expeditiously as possible under the circumstances.”

The Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations on Wednesday called for an independent investigation by the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. Officials said the division and local prosecutors are already reviewing the case.

At the time of the shooting, Todashev was being interviewed about his possible connection to a triple murder in Waltham, Mass., on Sept. 11, 2011. Law enforcement officials said he had acknowledged involvement in the murders and had implicated Tsarnaev. Officials said Todashev was not suspected of involvement in the April 15 Boston bombing.

Tsarnaev was killed in a shootout with police four days after the bombing. His younger brother, Dzhokhar, was captured later that day and remains in custody.

In the statement about Todashev’s shooting issued on the day of the incident, the FBI said that an agent, along with two Massachusetts State Police troopers and other law enforcement personnel, were interviewing “an individual” in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a “violent confrontation was initiated by the individual.”

An agent sustained non-life-threatening injuries, later described by one law enforcement official as “some cuts and abrasions.”

Initial reports citing anonymous law-enforcement individuals provided conflicting accounts of what happened. Some law enforcement officials said Todashev wielded a knife and others suggested that he attempted to grab the FBI agent’s gun.

One law enforcement official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation, said Wednesday that Todashev lunged at the agent and overturned a table. But the official said Todashev did not have a gun or a knife. A second official also said Todashev was unarmed.

An official said that according to one account of the shooting, the other law enforcement officials had just stepped out of the room, leaving the FBI agent alone with Todashev, when the confrontation occurred.

The shooting followed hours of questioning by the law enforcement officials that had begun the night before.

Todashev’s father said after the shooting that he didn’t believe the FBI’s account of why they killed his son.

“My son could never commit a crime, I know my son too well,” Abdul-Baki Todashev, who lives in Chechnya, told the Daily Beast Web site. “He worked helping disabled people in America and did sports, coached other sportsmen. The FBI made up their accusations.”

Todashev, a martial arts fighter, met Tamerlan Tsarnaev in fighting circles in Boston before Todashev moved to Orlando.

Todashev’s family said he had a ticket to fly to Russia this month and planned to spend the summer in his native Chechnya.

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The FBI has been corrupt and inept since November 22, 1963.

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Chechen man who was fatally shot by an FBI agent last week during an interview about one of the Boston bombing suspects was unarmed, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

An air of mystery has surrounded the FBI shooting of Ibragim Todashev, 27, since it occurred in Todashev’s apartment early on the morning of May 22. The FBI said in a news release that day that Todashev, a former Boston resident who knew bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was killed during an interview with several law enforcement officers.


The FBI has provided few other details, saying that the matter is being investigated by an FBI review team that may not finish its probe for several months.

“The FBI takes very seriously any shooting incidents involving our agents and as such we have an effective, time-tested process for addressing them internally,” FBI spokesman Paul Bresson said in a statement Wednesday. “The review process is thorough and objective and conducted as expeditiously as possible under the circumstances.”

The Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations on Wednesday called for an independent investigation by the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. Officials said the division and local prosecutors are already reviewing the case.

At the time of the shooting, Todashev was being interviewed about his possible connection to a triple murder in Waltham, Mass., on Sept. 11, 2011. Law enforcement officials said he had acknowledged involvement in the murders and had implicated Tsarnaev. Officials said Todashev was not suspected of involvement in the April 15 Boston bombing.

Tsarnaev was killed in a shootout with police four days after the bombing. His younger brother, Dzhokhar, was captured later that day and remains in custody.

In the statement about Todashev’s shooting issued on the day of the incident, the FBI said that an agent, along with two Massachusetts State Police troopers and other law enforcement personnel, were interviewing “an individual” in connection with the Boston Marathon bombing investigation when a “violent confrontation was initiated by the individual.”

An agent sustained non-life-threatening injuries, later described by one law enforcement official as “some cuts and abrasions.”

Initial reports citing anonymous law-enforcement individuals provided conflicting accounts of what happened. Some law enforcement officials said Todashev wielded a knife and others suggested that he attempted to grab the FBI agent’s gun.

One law enforcement official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation, said Wednesday that Todashev lunged at the agent and overturned a table. But the official said Todashev did not have a gun or a knife. A second official also said Todashev was unarmed.

An official said that according to one account of the shooting, the other law enforcement officials had just stepped out of the room, leaving the FBI agent alone with Todashev, when the confrontation occurred.

The shooting followed hours of questioning by the law enforcement officials that had begun the night before.

Todashev’s father said after the shooting that he didn’t believe the FBI’s account of why they killed his son.

“My son could never commit a crime, I know my son too well,” Abdul-Baki Todashev, who lives in Chechnya, told the Daily Beast Web site. “He worked helping disabled people in America and did sports, coached other sportsmen. The FBI made up their accusations.”

Todashev, a martial arts fighter, met Tamerlan Tsarnaev in fighting circles in Boston before Todashev moved to Orlando.

Todashev’s family said he had a ticket to fly to Russia this month and planned to spend the summer in his native Chechnya.

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o-knew-boston-bomber-was-unarmed-when-shot/2013/05/29/21f05b74-c8a8-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_story.html

Surprised PN isn't all over this one.

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Originally posted by AURAPTOR:
As I recall, he came at them w/ a knife, as was first reported.

And I never did hear initially WHERE the interview / questioning was conducted.

Now they're saying it was at his apt.



I just find this very curious. It sounded odd from the very start, but now... All politics aside, does anyone not view this as strange as hell ?

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But, most importantly, let's not lose sight of the fact that the people at the finish line of the marathon were unarmed and unsuspecting. They didn't have a chance because they didn't see it coming.

At least the Boston Bombers knew they would be chased by the law at some point. Like cowards they shot an officer from the back. They don't deserve any sympathy whatsoever.


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Chechen lunged at agent with metal stick before being shot, officials say

Ibragim Todashev, the Chechen acquaintance of one of the accused Boston bombers, was shot roughly a half-dozen times in several seconds by an FBI agent after he twice lunged at the officer with a metal stick, according to senior federal law enforcement officials.

The description of events follows a series of unofficial and contradictory accounts that surfaced after the shooting in Todashev’s Orlando apartment May 22, including early reports — later said to be inaccurate — that he attacked the agent with a knife.


Under FBI regulations regarding the use of deadly force, agents can discharge their weapons if they feel they are threatened with death or serious bodily injury. The FBI’s shooting incident review team is investigating what happened in Orlando, and its findings will be examined by a Shooting Incident Review Group, which consists of members of the FBI and the Justice Department.

A U.S. law enforcement official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Todashev was shot “in the range of six times.” His family, which released photos of the body through the Florida chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said Todashev was shot in the chest, head, shoulder and arm.

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If only he'd had a gun, he could have stopped all that tyranny!

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But, most importantly, let's not lose sight of the fact that the people at the finish line of the marathon were unarmed and unsuspecting. They didn't have a chance because they didn't see it coming.

At least the Boston Bombers knew they would be chased by the law at some point. Like cowards they shot an officer from the back. They don't deserve any sympathy whatsoever.


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Not sure if he should be linked w/ the bombing act directly, but we're TOLD that he was about to confess to the triple murders. At the very least, it sounds like this guy wasn't a very nice person.

But is it routine for the FBI to question a suspect with just one officer ? Maybe we've seen too much t.v., but a guy who is a suspect in a triple murder, who's trained in MMA, one MIGHT have the foresight to think that maybe, just maybe, for the sake of safety to the officer, back up might be necessary ?

" That's OK Scully, you take this one by yourself. I'll go check out the mysterious activity at the abandoned farm. We'll meet back here later "

That almost NEVER happens!


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Hell, why don't they just come out and say " He needed killin' " , and stick with that ?

Sheesh.

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If only he'd had a gun, he could have stopped all that tyranny!

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Tyranny of being asked about 3 murders and his association w/ the folks who committed the Boston Marathon bombings ?

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Already covered it -- Bostong Marathon bombing crisis actor drill thread.

Funny how the 2 FBI agents at the 8-hour interrogation/shooting jumped out of a helicopter at FBI HQ.

Funny how FBI never records its own interrogations/confessions yet its informants record FBI ordering the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center to go FORWARD.




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