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Jim Drouillard, professor of animal sciences and industry, developed a technique that enriches ground beef with omega-3 fatty acids -- fatty acids that have been shown to reduce heart disease, cholesterol and high blood pressure -- by feeding cattle a balanced diet. The enriched ground beef is named GreatO Premium Ground Beef and is being sold through Manhattan, Kan.-based company NBO3 Technologies LLC. It will be available mid-February at select retailers in Buffalo, N.Y., and expand to leading retailers and restaurants nationwide later this year.

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Scientists took cells from a cow and, at an institute in the Netherlands, turned them into strips of muscle that they combined to make a patty.

One food expert said it was "close to meat, but not that juicy" and another said it tasted like a real burger.

Researchers say the technology could be a sustainable way of meeting what they say is a growing demand for meat.

The burger was cooked by chef Richard McGeown, from Cornwall, and tasted by food critics Hanni Ruetzler and Josh Schonwald.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I do find it a little disconcerting that people could raise animals from birth to death always knowing in the back of their minds that they're going to slaughter them for meat.

I don't actually understand how people can do that. I mean cows are cute and have obvious individual emotional characteristics and traits. How could you raise them and not think of them like a pet?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Probably not GMO. The types of organisms that make omega-3s have a whole biochemistry set up to do that. I'm reasonably certain it's not a matter of just shot-gunning in one gene. OTOH I DO remember an article a while back about beef being enhanced with omega-s through feeding - oh, here's a quote from a radom article I just pulled up -

"Jim Drouillard, professor of animal sciences and industry, developed a technique that enriches ground beef with omega-3 fatty acids -- fatty acids that have been shown to reduce heart disease, cholesterol and high blood pressure -- by feeding cattle a balanced diet ...".

Your wife is on the right track to avoid GMO food in my opinion. The limited experiments done indicate severe health problems for animals fed GMO food, especially cancer. B/c of the random way genes are inserted into the DNA, and the random types of genes inserted, and b/c testing in GMO food is EXTREMELY limited, you can't be sure what you're ingesting. In addition, b/c many GMO foods are 'RoundUp ready", the food is soaked with RoundUp. Other foods have the Bt gene inserted, so you're getting Bt toxin with your food. I have a lot of articles that I can post the links to, if you're interested. Be forewarned, they are long.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I do find it a little disconcerting that people could raise animals from birth to death always knowing in the back of their minds that they're going to slaughter them for meat.

I don't actually understand how people can do that. I mean cows are cute and have obvious individual emotional characteristics and traits. How could you raise them and not think of them like a pet?

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As long as we can compartmentalize violence, war & poverty will be with us.
But creating meat without the whole animal is a step towards a Star Trek future of plenty for all without the need for death!

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I wish cruelty didn't taste so good.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I do find it a little disconcerting that people could raise animals from birth to death always knowing in the back of their minds that they're going to slaughter them for meat.

I don't actually understand how people can do that. I mean cows are cute and have obvious individual emotional characteristics and traits. How could you raise them and not think of them like a pet?

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I hope you'll answer this question: are you theologically opposed to a cat eating a carnivorous diet? And if not cats - why humans?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
GMO wheat has never been approved for planting in the US.

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On the whole GMO bent, it's more the lack of proper and adequate testing, crummy piss poor so-called-science, and a severe dearth of credibility and honesty on behalf of a FORMER BIOWEAPONS MANUFACTURER, who is engaging in behavior not only fundamentally destructive to farming as a whole, but has the avowed potential to irreperably wreck out ecosystem - what HAPPENS when plants don't drop new seed ? why, no more plants!
Run out of seed, lose the ability to create more, any number of scenarios, and kapoof, mass starvation and disaster - and mind you this is in the hands of a company KNOWN for unethical behavior to a degree which'd make Joseph Mengele cringe in horror.

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"Humans can CHOOSE"

We can choose what we eat, but we can't chose what we are. And even if we choose to eat plants ... or fungi ... or nutritionally selected, grown and compressed bacteria ... they are all alive, or were alive till we cooked them - and certainly until we ate them.

Such is the fate of not being a plant, and unable to get our food from the non-living sun, water, air, and minerals. We must eat living things of some type.

If we are a product of nature, then nature made us eaters all evil.

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If we are a product of nature, then nature made us eaters all evil.

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Then nature is evil to have created such evil ...

I come from a different perspective. Nature just is.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
If we are a product of nature, then nature made us eaters all evil.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
A concept that I've been dealing with recently.
If killing is a good thing, the wars we engage in are totally cool. It's the way of things. Collateral damage is just... lunch.
Jungle boogie.
Kill that piggie! That enemy!
I wanna LIVE!!!!
Wait... sorry, I just had to kill a mosquito trying to steal my blood.

Welcome to my existential crisis.;-)

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"Yes, it is. It just is, and it is also inherently evil."

Because of entropy?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I find killing an animal to eat to be in a non-intersecting dimension from killing in war.

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Just a commentary - people like to think that as a species we're intelligent b/c we have technology. I don't see that. Our technology has made us super-efficient bacteria at eating our way through the petri dish.

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But more than that... Humans can CHOOSE. Cats can't.

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Look at who's healthy, and eat sort of like them. That's rocket-scientist advice.;-)

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
[It's true, the very laws of nature themselves are extremely hostile to any form of life.

Fortunately for us, laws are made to be broken. And I don't think any of us should have to put up with the universe's shit.

That's why I like science.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Unless you can find a way to convince people that the problems are of our own making and so the solutions are in our hands as well!

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Yes, it is. It just is, and it is also inherently evil.

This isn't the worst of all possible worlds. It isn't all endless suffering. But it's close. And the only escape is death. Unless we create our own escape.

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Would you say that about gravity? That somehow gravity doesn't apply to us just BECAUSE we're people? Not that we can't develop machines that fly, but that we are exempt from gravity completely? Is that true?

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"For example, take a Mediterranean style diet."

"I could go on, but the point is made."

And your point is that dietary deficiencies don't exist? That we don't need a minimum of essential amino acids, essential fatty acids, minerals and vitamins? Is that your point?

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I could go on at length about how these various dietary deficiencies are endemic in populations around the globe. But that wouldn't convince you, b/c frankly, you've got a bug about it that defies ANY amount of data or reason.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Here's a question. Vitamin B-12 tends to bio-accumulate in animals. If we need to eat animals or take B-12 supplements to combat vitamin B-12 deficiency and cognitive decline, then how come even large oral doses of vitamin B-12 supplements results in limited uptake through the blood brain barrier?

And if that is the case, why should I be concerned about eating animals for the vitamin B-12 if a more concentrated dose doesn't have very good returns either?

If someone could explain that to me, then maybe I might concede that eating animals really is important from a dietary standpoint. And give some credit to the studies that say B-12 supplements have helped alzheimer's and dementia patients.

And then still not eat animals. :P

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