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"Common sense" holds Assad responsible?
Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:09 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:The White House asserted Sunday that a "common-sense test" rather than "irrefutable, beyond-a-reasonable-doubt evidence" makes the Syrian government responsible for a chemical weapons attack that President Barack Obama says demands a U.S. military response.
Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:38 AM
Quote:Prince Bandar—for two decades one of the most influential deal makers in Washington as Saudi ambassador but who had largely disappeared from public view—is now reprising his role as a geopolitical operator. This time it is to advance the Saudi kingdom's top foreign-policy goal, defeating Syrian President Assad and his Iranian and Hezbollah allies. Prince Bandar has been jetting from covert command centers near the Syrian front lines to the Élysée Palace in Paris and the Kremlin in Moscow, seeking to undermine the Assad regime, according to Arab, American and European officials. Meanwhile, an influential protégé, current Saudi Ambassador to Washington Adel al-Jubeir, is leading a parallel campaign to coax Congress and a reluctant Obama administration to expand the U.S. role in Syria. The conflict there has become a proxy war for Middle East factions, and Saudi Arabia's efforts in Syria are just one sign of its broader effort to expand its regional influence. The Saudis also have been outspoken supporters of the Egyptian military in its drive to squelch the Muslim Brotherhood, backing that up with big chunks of cash.
Quote: The Wall Street Journal recently revealed new details about how Prince Bandar bin Sultan al-Saud — Saudi’s former ambassador to the United States — is leading the effort to prop up the Syrian rebels. Intelligence agents from Saudi Arabia, the United States, Jordan and other allied states are working at a secret joint operations center in Jordan to train and arm hand-picked Syrian rebels. The Journal also reports Prince Bandar has been jetting from covert command centers near the Syrian front lines to the Élysée Palace in Paris and the Kremlin in Moscow, seeking to undermine the Assad regime. "Really what he’s doing is he’s reprising a role that he played in the 1980s when he worked with the Reagan administration to arrange money and arms for mujahideen fighters in Afghanistan and also worked with the CIA in Nicaragua to support the Contras," says Wall Street Journal reporter Adam Entous. "So in many ways this is a very familiar position for Prince Bandar, and it’s amazing to see the extent to which veterans of the CIA were excited to see him come back because, in the words of a diplomat who knows Bandar, he brings the Arabic term wasta, which means under-the-table clout. You know his checks are not going to bounce and that he’ll be able to deliver the money from the Saudis."
Sunday, September 8, 2013 11:46 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Sunday, September 8, 2013 2:11 PM
Quote:Fwiw I have written all of my reps.
Sunday, September 8, 2013 5:43 PM
Quote: "It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush, operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Saddam's Iraq into the power it became", and "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted—and frequently encouraged—the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."
Quote:When Rumsfeld visited Baghdad on December 20, 1983, he met Saddam Hussein at Saddam's palace and had a 90-minute discussion. They largely agreed on opposing Syria's occupation of Lebanon; preventing Syrian and Iranian expansion; and preventing arms sales to Iran.
Quote: Rumsfeld suggested that if U.S.-Iraq relations could improve the U.S. might support a new oil pipeline across Jordan, which Iraq had opposed but was now willing to reconsider. Rumsfeld also informed Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Tariq Aziz that "Our efforts to assist were inhibited by certain things that made it difficult for us ... citing the use of chemical weapons."
Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:24 PM
Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:31 PM
Quote:2 schools of thought... wear your heart on your sleeve, and outwardly reject those with whom you disagree, or keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.
Quote:Not sure which works best. Likely there's no one 'right' way to treat dictators, in every situation. One size does not fit all, I suppose.
Monday, September 9, 2013 6:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: If you don't do anything else... if you don't call the White House http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/write-or-call or call your Senators http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm and Representative http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/ ...then sign this. http://act.credoaction.com/sign/obama_syria/ Parliament voted against a Syrian strike because 80% of British citizens are against it. No matter how much a Parliamentarian might want to grease his or her way through this issue, they KNOW if they vote for it their ass will be grass with their constituents. Do the same.
Monday, September 9, 2013 6:25 PM
Friday, December 6, 2024 6:35 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Friday, December 6, 2024 10:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: some continue to post reports that he wanted to 'Gas' his own people Bashar al-Assad’s regime will not survive long if rebels keep on https://www.yahoo.com/news/bashar-al-assad-regime-not-201034246.html
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