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Farmer’s Almanac nails winter freeze; government climate scientists way off

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Monday, March 3, 2014 4:31 PM

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The bitterly cold winter the country is experiencing now took government climatologists completely by surprise, but was predicted with dead-center accuracy by the Old Farmer’s Almanac, a 200 year-plus publication.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Climate Prediction Center worked feverishly, plugging all available data into supercomputers to predict temperatures would be “above normal from November through January across much of the lower 48 states,” according to Bloomberg Businessweek.

It made its November through January prediction in October.

Instead of the mild winter the scientists predicted, we got hit with the polar vortex, plunging temperatures in in all 50 states to below-freezing temperatures and covering the Midwest and Northeast under more than a foot of snow.

And just to make sure we know it wasn’t an anomaly, Mother Nature said she’s sending another dose of polar vortex our way next week.

“Not one of our better forecasts,” acknowledged the Climate Prediction Center’s acting director Mike Halpert to Bloomberg.

But not everyone got it wrong.

The Old Farmer’s Almanac, which made its winter predictions way back during the summer, used terms like “bitter,” “biting” and piercing” to describe how cold it was going to be, according to CBS News — and it was spot on.

Shortly after making its prediction, Farmer’s Almanac editor Tim Clark explained on Washington, D.C. TV station WUSA9 that although the publication employs many of the same predictors used by the government, it throws the solar cycle into the mix. “And have [used it], for 220 years,” he added.





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Monday, March 3, 2014 5:52 PM

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Monday, March 3, 2014 6:11 PM

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Bum still hot from that thrashing you took from me in the AGW - religious cult thread, huh?

Yeah. I can see why.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:34 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
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Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
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The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".




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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 6:08 AM

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On a civilized board, I'd be reading your apology, 1kiki.

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 9:58 AM

JONGSSTRAW


"Farmer’s Almanac nails winter freeze; government climate scientists way off"


The Govt. pays farmers not to do what they know, while it pays "climate scientists" to do what they don't know. SALT?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:13 AM

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How long befor FA is outlawed for predicting weather with out the proper govt approved permits & licenses ?

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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:34 AM

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Not long. Preparations are already underway.



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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:36 AM

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Some areas have had a very, very mild winter.

Oh, right, trolls only think what exists out their front door matters...




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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 3:24 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"It made its November through January prediction in October."

Two out of three ain't bad. Only January was cold, November and December were quite mild. Does being right two out of three count as being 'WAY' off?

MEANWHILE - NOAA: January 2014 Was 4th Warmest on Record.




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Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".




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Tuesday, March 4, 2014 10:51 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

"It made its November through January prediction in October."

Two out of three ain't bad. Only January was cold, November and December were quite mild. Does being right two out of three count as being 'WAY' off?

MEANWHILE - NOAA: January 2014 Was 4th Warmest on Record.




RIF , 1kiki. READING IS FUNDAMENTAL.

The Old Farmer’s Almanac, which made its winter predictions way back during the summer, used terms like “bitter,” “biting” and piercing” to describe how cold it was going to be, according to CBS News — and it was spot on.


Wait. According to whom ? AURaptor ? Dick Cheney? Ted Nugent ?

No... CBS NEWS!



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Wednesday, March 5, 2014 10:53 PM

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RUSH LIMBAUGH is a BLUE PILL ADDICT!
As evidence of "rape mentality"
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
The term applies



And this is Geezer being non-partisan ... HAHAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...
Dem Super Pac slams Obamacare because it really sucks and will cause herpes
Geezer
So some Democrats are running on pointing out that the Healthcare.gov rollout was an unmitigated disaster

I feel so vindicated.

"Just glad that some Democrats are acknowledging the bad job done in developing Healthcare.com." "it'll be interesting to see if these same Democrats acknowledge" "these Democrats seem to understand what the real Obama Kool-Ade drinkers still won't address" " it's about Democrats using criticism of the rollout in their campaign ads".




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Wednesday, March 5, 2014 11:48 PM

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Bye guys, it's been fun.

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Friday, March 7, 2014 11:49 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Bye guys, it's been fun.





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Saturday, March 8, 2014 7:34 AM

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Predicting weather more than a couple of weeks in advance is notoriously difficult.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Saturday, March 8, 2014 7:37 AM

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Sorry, but an anecdote about weather disproving climate change is not proof. The science done by real scientists is, and they agree.

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Saturday, March 8, 2014 8:14 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Predicting weather more than a couple of weeks in advance is notoriously difficult.

It's not personal. It's just war.



FA called this winter back when it was still summer. Not " a couple of weeks ".

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Saturday, March 8, 2014 10:05 PM

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Good for them. And if they get it completely wrong next year, will you post about it then?

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, March 9, 2014 2:48 PM

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The AGW folks have been getting it wrong for quite a while now. I see nothing but confused looks and shrugs coming from that camp, as they struggle to answer why the planet has stopped warming, despite C02 still being pumped into the atmo.

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Sunday, March 9, 2014 3:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Then you haven't been keeping up with real news. We get that about you. You don't need to keep proving it.

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MAL4PREZ
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whore

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Monday, March 10, 2014 9:31 AM

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Keeping up w the latest spin, ya mean.

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Monday, March 10, 2014 10:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sorry, but an anecdote about weather disproving climate change is not proof. The science done by real scientists is, and they agree.



Why keep making the same point to a verified idiot who's made it clear he has no interest in science?




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Monday, March 10, 2014 3:16 PM

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Boston, NYC, expecting more snow on Thurs. Lows of 10-18 degrees.



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Monday, March 10, 2014 4:53 PM

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Yeah, a guy who started the weather channel sees how AGW propaganda has been working its way into how weather is presented, so he left. Shocker.

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Monday, March 10, 2014 6:04 PM

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I don't get it.
FA is ignoring the realities of Global Warming?
How can this beeeeee?
Global Warming is really really really real, notwithstanding the intentional falsification of data recording and collection. Algore sez so. And I read it on the interweb and heard it on CNN - it must be truuuuue.
Global Warming is caused by cows passing wind and volcanoes releasing certain greenhouse gasses specified in Federal Legislation written to support ethanol producer profits. Apparently cows passing wind in more sensible countries do not contribute.
Global Warming is such a horrificly disasterous epidemic that the extra heat from the Earth's flatulent cows is also heating up every planet in the Milky Way (aka our solar system, for those of you believers). Every Milky Way body is experiencing Global Warming (even those without atmo) resulting from Earth, not only those out past Uranus but also those orbiting on the opposite side of the Sun from Earth. Yes it's truuuue. Even the Sun is experiencing Global Warming as a result of American cows passing wind.

hmmm. where is the sarcasm off button....

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Monday, March 10, 2014 6:42 PM

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Those farmers got it going on. They really know their manure.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 12:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

The Old Farmer’s Almanac, which made its winter predictions way back during the summer, used terms like “bitter,” “biting” and piercing” to describe how cold it was going to be, according to CBS News — and it was spot on.


OOPS. Wrong again. I guess that's what happens you you mistake your backyard for the entire country.

Quote:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2014/2

The contiguous U.S. February temperature was 32.2°F, 1.6°F below the 20th century average, and the 37th coldest February on record.

And that was the supposed god-awful cold February, after the extremely mild December and January.



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Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sorry, but an anecdote about weather disproving climate change is not proof. The science done by real scientists is, and they agree.



So I'm still unclear from our resident denialists, whether they believe climate change is happening but not man made, or it's not happening at all. They seem to find posts that say both from time to time.

This one is 'there is no climate change'. That is the climate of the earth is entirely static. Which is amusing, because even the majority of the scientific denials (3%) say that it IS changing, just not because of human activity.

Meh, stuff science. It's just another religion, right? So let me open my front door and float away, seeing as the theory of gravity is likely to just be more ALARMIST bullshit from these trouble makers.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 8:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

So I'm still unclear from our resident denialists, whether they believe climate change is happening but not man made, or it's not happening at all. They seem to find posts that say both from time to time.



No, AGW isn't happening. At least not to any significant level, and all agree, there's not much we CAN do about it, even if there is.

Climate ? It's always changing. That's not the issue though.

Quote:



This one is 'there is no climate change'. That is the climate of the earth is entirely static. Which is amusing, because even the majority of the scientific denials (3%) say that it IS changing, just not because of human activity.



Often the discussion gets abbreviated, on the matter of human caused climate change to just 'climate change'. I think the AGW folks intentionally keep changing their vernacular to keep the issue confusing, so folks will not try to speak up.

Quote:


Meh, stuff science. It's just another religion, right? So let me open my front door and float away, seeing as the theory of gravity is likely to just be more ALARMIST bullshit from these trouble makers.



Theory of gravity ?

Newton's law of universal gravitation states that any two bodies in the universe attract each other with a force that is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation#M
odern_controversy




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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:06 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And yet, repeatable observations give rise to the theory. So, unless you deal with reality by closing your eyes, blocking your ears and ... oh, wait, that's EXACTLY what you do.



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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, little rappy - don't you get tired of being wrong? I mean, here's a title - bold as day, unerasable and uneditable, with your name publicly and permanently attached - and so very, very wrong. Again. I mean really. Are you THAT much of a troll where the thrill of getting paid ANY attention to is actually worth the pain of being the village idiot?


OONJERAH
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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:19 AM

KPO

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Quote:


I don't get it.
FA is ignoring the realities of Global Warming?


Correct. You don't get it. AGW doesn't make specific predictions about the weather on particular days, weeks, months or even seasons.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:27 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
So, little rappy - don't you get tired of being wrong? I mean, here's a title - bold as day, unerasable and uneditable, with your name publicly and permanently attached - and so very, very wrong. Again. I mean really. Are you THAT much of a troll where the thrill of getting paid ANY attention to is actually worth the pain of being the village idiot?


OONJERAH
We are too dumb to live and smart enough to wipe ourselves out.



It's not a problem at all, because I've not been proven to be wrong. You repeating over and over again, doesn't make it any less false, dearie.

You think so highly of yourself that you actually believe I crave YOUR attention ?

Who's the attention whore again?

Crassic.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:28 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Farmer’s Almanac nails winter freeze; government climate scientists way off - rappy


The contiguous U.S. February temperature was 32.2°F, 1.6°F below the 20th century average, and the 37th coldest February on record. - noaa



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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:30 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

And yet, repeatable observations give rise to the theory. So, unless you deal with reality by closing your eyes, blocking your ears and ... oh, wait, that's EXACTLY what you do.




What the hell ? Are you channeling another thread or something ?

I see it really does annoy the hell out of you when anyone has a different opinion.

Just like that professor in Austria, who'd prefer "deniers" be locked up, or preferably just be shot ?

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:35 AM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


definition of a troll: "and I refuse to chase others in a mindless, endless circle of " debate " on the internet. If I 'bitch out' of a discussion, I've said all I'm going to say on the matter, my views have been presented, and there's nothing left to add."



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Tuesday, July 30, 2013 8:11 PM
MAL4PREZ
And just remember, according to Rappy, the term befitting a women who wants the insurance she pays for to cover medications affecting her reproductive organs is
whore

Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:23 PM
little rappy
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Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:50 AM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
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I don't get it.
FA is ignoring the realities of Global Warming?


Correct. You don't get it. AGW doesn't make specific predictions about the weather on particular days, weeks, months or even seasons.

It's not personal. It's just war.



Actually, not correct. FA simply predicted there'd be a colder winter. And there was . The methodology differs from other ways, because it takes into account the single biggest driver of this planet's weather, the Sun.

Seems pretty sensible, if you think about it.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:38 PM

1KIKI

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The Old Farmer’s Almanac, which made its winter predictions way back during the summer, used terms like “bitter,” “biting” and piercing”,,, -FA
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FA simply predicted there'd be a colder winter. -rappy


Hmmm. WHAT did the FA predict? I know I saw it somewhere ...



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Sunday, March 16, 2014 1:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Another FA winter prediction:

"The good news is that the extra precipitation—which will fall as rain or snow depending where you are—will help with any drought issues left over from the summer.”





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Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:43 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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Originally posted by kpo:
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I don't get it.
FA is ignoring the realities of Global Warming?


Correct. You don't get it. AGW doesn't make specific predictions about the weather on particular days, weeks, months or even seasons.

It's not personal. It's just war.



Actually, not correct. FA simply predicted there'd be a colder winter. And there was . The methodology differs from other ways, because it takes into account the single biggest driver of this planet's weather, the Sun.

Seems pretty sensible, if you think about it.


Completely ignored what I said, and pivoted onto what you wanted to say, as you so often do.

And the fact that you lecture anyone on the scientific method and then laud the scientific methodology of the 'Farmers Almanac' is laughable.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:51 PM

AURAPTOR

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KPO - You agreed that FA is ignoring the "realities " of AGW. In fact, it DOES go on to make predictions on the weather.

WEATHER.


It doesn't bother w/ 'climate' change.

Good grief.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 3:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So your point is, the FA got it right?

It didn't. It predicted extreme cold - which didn't happen. Two months were mild. One was barely below average. It predicted lots of precipitation, ending drought problems. That was wrong as well.

What part did it get right?





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Sunday, March 16, 2014 4:39 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
So your point is, the FA got it right?

It didn't. It predicted extreme cold - which didn't happen. Two months were mild. One was barely below average. It predicted lots of precipitation, ending drought problems. That was wrong as well.

What part did it get right?



Niagara Falls froze solid.

Twice.



The Great Lakes froze so thoroughly, ( 93% of Lake Superior's surface ) that walking tours of shoreline caves were available for the first time in a generation.

And you said there wasn't extreme cold ?

Seriously, the delusion you live in must be spectacular.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:03 PM

KPO

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
KPO - You agreed that FA is ignoring the "realities " of AGW. In fact, it DOES go on to make predictions on the weather.

WEATHER.


It doesn't bother w/ 'climate' change.

Good grief.


Sigh, I agreed with JSF that he doesn't 'get it', and I stated that *AGW* doesn't make weather predictions.

It's not personal. It's just war.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:10 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


This was my record-breaking winter:

Some areas, like your backyard, got cold. Others, unlike your backyard, were quite warm. It's that whole problem you have of mistaking limited examples for the whole picture. And to repeat, this is what they predicted, not for a few limited places, for a month, but for the country, for the winter.
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The Old Farmer’s Almanac, which made its winter predictions way back during the summer, used terms like “bitter,” “biting” and piercing” to describe how cold it was going to be, according to CBS News — and it was spot on.


And this is what happened - the entire country was quite warm for two months. During February, it was only a little cooler than usual for the month.

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http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2014/2

The contiguous U.S. February temperature was 32.2°F, 1.6°F below the 20th century average, and the 37th coldest February on record.



So, the country as a whole, the winter as a whole? Pretty warm, pretty warm, and a little cooler than normal. FA got it wrong. Also, we were all supposed to have our drought worries fixed. FA got that wrong too.




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Sunday, March 16, 2014 5:53 PM

AURAPTOR

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It predicted extreme cold, and we got extreme cold. Only a frelling moron could deny it.

Also, it said the drought would get some relief, though never claimed the problem would be 'fixed'.

I swear, no one cherry picks what they want to see more than you.

NO ONE.

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Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:06 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"It predicted extreme cold, and we got extreme cold." We also had extreme warm. And extreme average. I think it missed that part.

"The good news is that the extra precipitation—which will fall as rain or snow depending where you are—will help with any drought issues left over from the summer.”

Extra precipitation? It kinda missed half the country on that one, too.



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Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:18 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Well, it's been. Gotta go.



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Monday, March 17, 2014 7:28 PM

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Originally posted by kpo:
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I don't get it.
FA is ignoring the realities of Global Warming?


Correct. You don't get it. AGW doesn't make specific predictions about the weather on particular days, weeks, months or even seasons.

It's not personal. It's just war.



Actually, not correct. FA simply predicted there'd be a colder winter. And there was . The methodology differs from other ways, because it takes into account the single biggest driver of this planet's weather, the Sun.

Seems pretty sensible, if you think about it.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall



Nooooooooo! It cannot beeeeee! The Sun? No way. Next you'll be claiming that Sun does not actually revolve around Earth, and throw all these wacky junk science followers in a tizzy.

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