Porch Shooting Case - Guilty Verdict by SHINYGOODGUY

Your post suggests it is rare for white people to be held accountable. It's simply not the case.

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Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:13 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

SGG, I was happy to see that. Too many white people never see the same consequences for their actions as blacks. How many white males have police shot lately for loitering or walking on the street or whatever it was that was worth the death penalty?

SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:37 PM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Missed this thread, and this case.

Interesting that it happened in Detroit, and not ST Louis , MO or somewhere in the deep South.

Somebody comes up on your front porch is not a reason to kill them in self-defense, no matter your race or theirs.

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Saturday, August 16, 2014 6:37 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your post suggests it is rare for white people to be held accountable. It's simply not the case.

Black teen *allegedly* steals a box of cigars (maybe): Shot multiple times, executed on the spot.

White CEO steals billions: gets a bailout and a bonus.

Yeah, show those whiteys how they'll be held to account!

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Saturday, August 16, 2014 7:15 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your post suggests it is rare for white people to be held accountable. It's simply not the case.

Black teen *allegedly* steals a box of cigars (maybe): Shot multiple times, executed on the spot.

White CEO steals billions: gets a bailout and a bonus.

Yeah, show those whiteys how they'll be held to account!

One case went to trial, and a verdict was arrived at, while the other case , in Ferguson, is still basically unfolding.

And you want to damn near dismiss the trial verdict, as you pass judgement on the other incident.

Michael Brown stole, every much as he's now dead. It may be inconvenient for you, but thems the facts. I don't know if ANYONE thinks Big Mike met his JUST end because he shop lifted those Swisher Sweets. Seems his contact w/ the cop who shot him had zero to do w/ the shop lifting.

CEO's getting bail outs for following the rules set up by OUR govt, has zero to do w/ the first two tragedies. Your little race baiting agenda is tiresome. I really wonder if you ARE 'black' , or just some a-hole troll, who thinks it's funny to stir up emotions over your asinine remarks.

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Saturday, August 16, 2014 7:27 PM

EVILCHRIST

Christians killed in Iraq, people starving all over the world. CEO gets away with crime. Big deal, that is just a argument called;

The fallacy of relative privation, or appeal to worse problems, is an informal fallacy which attempts to suggest that the opponent's argument should be ignored because there are more important problems in the world, despite the fact that these issues are often completely unrelated to the subject under discussion.

A well-known example of this fallacy is the response "but there are children starving in Africa," with the implication that any issue less serious than that is not worthy of discussion; or the common saying "I used to lament having no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet."

This is the second time I had to post this today.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:

The fallacy of relative privation, or appeal to worse problems, is an informal fallacy which attempts to suggest that the opponent's argument should be ignored because there are more important problems in the world, despite the fact that these issues are often completely unrelated to the subject under discussion.

You mean like this? "Your post suggests it is rare for white people to be held accountable. It's simply not the case."

Yes, I see what you did there. Thank you for pointing out your appeal to worse problems in trying to insinuate that black people always get what they deserve, and there's no such thing as white privilege.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

And you want to damn near dismiss the trial verdict, as you pass judgement on the other incident.

Michael Brown stole, every much as he's now dead. It may be inconvenient for you, but thems the facts.

As much as you'd like to throw out the judicial and evidentiary rules, those are the *ALLEGATIONS*.

Nobody has verified the video in question, to the best of my knowledge, and the police have been adamant that the *ALLEGED* robbery had nothing to do with why Michael Brown was killed.

I understand how inconvenient facts are for you, you fucking dipshit, but do try to keep up.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:59 AM

America loves a winner!

I've verified the video.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 2:07 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

I've verified the video.

I have a bridge to sell you.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:09 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

I'm not suggesting it, I'm saying it. Specifically a white person, or reasonable facsimile, shooting/killing a person of color and getting away with it is more the norm.

And I'm glad you said, HELD ACCOUNTABLE!

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:
Your post suggests it is rare for white people to be held accountable. It's simply not the case.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:16 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

I've verified the video.

I have a bridge to sell you.

Didn't see the video, did ya ?

There was no 'alleged ' stealing of the cigars. The kid stole them. It's on video. He got physical w/ the store owner. The matter is moot.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:47 PM

And you know for an indisputable fact that the video is indeed video of Michael Brown, Jr., right? You've verified that?

I know you think we all look alike, but how do you know beyond any reasonable doubt that you're looking at the kid who was then executed by police (who claim they had zero knowledge of what you claim you've verified)?

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:06 PM

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Quote:
Originally posted by THGRRI:

The fallacy of relative privation, or appeal to worse problems, is an informal fallacy which attempts to suggest that the opponent's argument should be ignored because there are more important problems in the world, despite the fact that these issues are often completely unrelated to the subject under discussion.

You mean like this? "Your post suggests it is rare for white people to be held accountable. It's simply not the case."

Yes, I see what you did there. Thank you for pointing out your appeal to worse problems in trying to insinuate that black people always get what they deserve, and there's no such thing as white privilege.

My response was appropriate. You by virtue of what you said suggested that white people get away with everything. I rebuked that. Nice try....

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:50 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:

I know you think we all look alike,

2nd time at last you've made that claim but nary 1 iota of evidence to back that up.

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but how do you know beyond any reasonable doubt that you're looking at the kid who was then executed by police (who claim they had zero knowledge of what you claim you've verified)?

They had knowledge because they had the security video of the robbery.

Your continued repeating of your feigned ignorance no none knows who this mystery kid is! ' is beyond pathetic.

Is that the best you have ? Manufacture a false position that everyone thinks 'y'all all look alike', so there can't be any possible way of IDing the individual in the video ?

It's the same person who the police SHOT ( can't say for certain at this time anything else beyond that and not be viewed as being biased now can we ? )

Elvis - You being a troll and pretending to be black may very well be the most racist and hateful thing I've seen on this board in quite some time.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:19 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Elvis - You being a troll and pretending to be black may very well be the most racist and hateful thing I've seen on this board in quite some time.

Really? That's the best you've got?

Hell, your being a racist cunt, a troll, and pretending to be a human is the most offensive thing this board has seen since Firefly was canceled.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 5:23 PM

ELVISCHRIST

There are a awful lot of women on these boards. I know I fight with them all the time. That said, how about you leave the C word out of your posts. They deserve better.

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Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:10 PM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Elvis - You being a troll and pretending to be black may very well be the most racist and hateful thing I've seen on this board in quite some time.

Really? That's the best you've got?

Hell, your being a racist cunt, a troll, and pretending to be a human is the most offensive thing this board has seen since Firefly was canceled.

Still absent from you is any hint of gratitude that the front porch shooter was found guilty, and justice served.

Instead, what we have from you is ...

Not so crassic.

But what IS funny is you thinking I'd waste anywhere near my best on such a pathetic piece of go-se as you.

Nice try, jack wagon.

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Monday, August 18, 2014 3:44 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I've verified the video.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

Ah, so your delusions have hit a new level of insanity. Good to know.

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Monday, August 18, 2014 3:45 PM

STORYMARK

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
ELVISCHRIST

There are a awful lot of women on these boards. I know I fight with them all the time. That said, how about you leave the C word out of your posts. They deserve better.

Some folks deserve it. Rappy being a prime example.

“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”? Isaac Asimov

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Monday, August 18, 2014 4:20 PM