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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Loyola University Law Professor, Justin Levitt conducted a study of voter fraud in America and found fraud was committed 31 times in 1 billion votes.

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I imagine a judge would be an upstanding citizen of the community, but you don't have the right ID - you're fucked!

SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here are the facts on the Texas Judge and voter fraud

NO TURDS ALLOWED!!!

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/23/2821651/texas-judge-voter/

Dateline: October 23, 2013

A Texas district judge who has been voting for the past five decades was almost barred from the polls Tuesday, thanks to the state’s newly implemented, stricter voter ID law. The law kicked in on Tuesday as early voting in Texas’ November 5 election began.

As she told local channel Kiii News, 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts was flagged for possible voter fraud because her driver’s license lists her maiden name as her middle name, while her voter registration form has her real middle name. This was the first time she has ever had a problem voting in 49 years.

It seems I did get some of my facts wrong

“What I have used for voter registration and for identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote,” she said.
Watts worried that women who use maiden names or hyphenated names may be surprised at the polls.

“I don’t think most women know that this is going to create a problem,” the judge said. “That their maiden name is on their driver’s license, which was mandated in 1964 when I got married, and this.

It seems she was following the law written in 1964

And so why would I want to use a provisional ballot when I’ve been voting regular ballot for the last 49 years?”
Many married women do not update their IDs after taking their spouse’s surnames, as the process is arduous and costly.

these women are sooooo lazy and cheap

Women must present original documents verifying their name change, such as a marriage license, or pay $20 to obtain new copies. Under the new voter ID law, these women are potential voter fraud risks.

who do they think they are potentially committing voter fraud, how dare they

Watts is hardly the only woman who has encountered problems. ThinkProgress’ Scott Keyes interviewed 84-year-old Dorothy Card, who was denied a voter ID three times even though she has voted for more than 60 years and provided extensive proof of identity.

While Watts, as an experienced judge, is familiar with the intricacies of election law, the people most likely to be stopped at the polls will be less informed about their rights. Low-income voters, minorities, students and seniors disproportionately lack the required identification —

be on the lookout for more facts, just below

a fact that prompted the Justice Department and several federal judges to block the law under now-defunct provisions in the Voting Rights Act. After public outcry, Texas officials said they would distribute a free voter ID to eligible recipients who applied for one.

As of this week, however, just 41 people received free IDs, out of the 1.4 million Texas voters who lack the required documents.


SGG

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Loyola University Law Professor, Justin Levitt conducted a study of voter fraud in America and found fraud was committed 31 times in 1 billion votes.

So yes my fellow Americans, there is voter fraud, admittedly so.
It happens .0000000031 percent of the time. Shocking!

He states that this is in consideration of the specific voter ID laws that are in effect today, geared toward preventing fraud. It is almost infinitesimally insignificant the amount of voter fraud that exists, TODAY.

The ACLU conducted a study that shows that up to 11% of voters lack proper ID. They also state that this affects the minority voters more than any other group.

The law professor says that voter fraud does exist, but that the type that voter ID laws are geared to protect against is a stupid way of trying to steal the vote. He states that absentee ballots, vote buying, and stuffing the ballot box, having insiders do the work, are more effective ways of stealing an election. And he states, this has been successful in the past.

"Sending someone to pretend to be somebody else is a dumb, high-risk strategy, and it's part of why it doesn't happen that often."

Let's recap:

.0000000031% voter fraud

11.00% without proper ID

That's quite a bit of swing, isn't it. What a waste of time and money, but that doesn't surprise me. It seems that's the goal, to waste time and money on something so small and petty as to be laughable.

Still though a recent poll showed that 70% of Americans believe we need voter ID Laws. Do those know that it's a waste of time? Who knows! There was another poll conducted that showed many Americans, I do not have the percentage on that, believe that elections are stolen. So, does it matter?

Some states accept student IDs, some gun permits, but not student IDs while still others accept only driver's license. I remember reading about a judge in Texas, a woman, who, because she was using her maiden name, was locked out of voting. A JUDGE! I imagine a judge would be an upstanding citizen of the community, but you don't have the right ID - you're fucked!

It seems the focus is on the wrong thing, does that seem right to you?


SGG

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
141% voter turnout

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here are the facts on the Texas Judge and voter fraud

NO TURDS ALLOWED!!!

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/23/2821651/texas-judge-voter/

Dateline: October 23, 2013

A Texas district judge who has been voting for the past five decades was almost barred from the polls Tuesday, thanks to the state’s newly implemented, stricter voter ID law. The law kicked in on Tuesday as early voting in Texas’ November 5 election began.

As she told local channel Kiii News, 117th District Court Judge Sandra Watts was flagged for possible voter fraud because her driver’s license lists her maiden name as her middle name, while her voter registration form has her real middle name. This was the first time she has ever had a problem voting in 49 years.

It seems I did get some of my facts wrong

“What I have used for voter registration and for identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote,” she said.
Watts worried that women who use maiden names or hyphenated names may be surprised at the polls.

“I don’t think most women know that this is going to create a problem,” the judge said. “That their maiden name is on their driver’s license, which was mandated in 1964 when I got married, and this.

It seems she was following the law written in 1964

And so why would I want to use a provisional ballot when I’ve been voting regular ballot for the last 49 years?”
Many married women do not update their IDs after taking their spouse’s surnames, as the process is arduous and costly.

these women are sooooo lazy and cheap

Women must present original documents verifying their name change, such as a marriage license, or pay $20 to obtain new copies. Under the new voter ID law, these women are potential voter fraud risks.

who do they think they are potentially committing voter fraud, how dare they

Watts is hardly the only woman who has encountered problems. ThinkProgress’ Scott Keyes interviewed 84-year-old Dorothy Card, who was denied a voter ID three times even though she has voted for more than 60 years and provided extensive proof of identity.

While Watts, as an experienced judge, is familiar with the intricacies of election law, the people most likely to be stopped at the polls will be less informed about their rights. Low-income voters, minorities, students and seniors disproportionately lack the required identification —

be on the lookout for more facts, just below

a fact that prompted the Justice Department and several federal judges to block the law under now-defunct provisions in the Voting Rights Act. After public outcry, Texas officials said they would distribute a free voter ID to eligible recipients who applied for one.

As of this week, however, just 41 people received free IDs, out of the 1.4 million Texas voters who lack the required documents.


SGG

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So you agree the JUDGE was not following current law, but obsolete and conflicting law? And a Judge who does not follow current law in favor of obsolete law should what, retain her JD? Or her appointment?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
141% voter turnout

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Come on, really!? Are you pretending to be this dense? Ok, once again......but please pay attention and read this slowly:

The Judge has been voting, before the voter ID law, for 49 years without incident. Got that so far, sparky!

She is following the law, as is required for all judges, because she now must show her driver's license under the new voter ID law. Now read slowly because it gets a bit tricky here.

Her driver's license has her maiden name as her middle name, as is required by a law written in 1964. She's still following the law for both 1964 (requiring her maiden name appear as her middle name on the driver's license) and the present voter ID law, but her voter registration form has her real middle name.

You see, they don't match. So she's unable to vote, because the laws conflict with one another. She would have to use her maiden name on the voter registration, so as to comply with both laws, a problem she never faced before since people in Texas were once reasonable.

She was obeying both laws, and yes they are conflicting laws, but both are current laws on the books. So neither is obsolete (well, that's debatable).
She needs to change her voter ID to her maiden name so as to comply with both laws.

A simple fix.


SGG

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