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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Didn't want to continue posting on Rap's ridiculous thread, so here goes a bit of a recap. Sadly two of the hostages were killed, and it looks like the cafe manager died trying to grab the gun of the hostage taker.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/martin-place-cafe-siege-poli
ce-storm-cafe-and-kill-gunman-sheik-man-haron-monis/story-fni0xqrb-1227157498633

THE manager of the Lindt cafe who was fatally shot in the Martin Place siege is being praised as a hero, responsible for allowing others trapped in the cafe to escape.

Tori Johnson, 34, was wrestling a gun from hostage-taker Man Haron Monis when he was killed.


It is understood the cafe manager decided to take action when the hostage-taker begun to doze off after the siege had been ongoing for 17 hours.

He lunged at the gunman’s weapon, enabling others to flee.

The second hostage killed has been identified as Katrina Dawson, 38. The mother-of-three is the sister of well known Sydney lawyer Sandy Dawson.

Ms Dawson was tragically killed trying to defend her pregnant friend, AAP reports.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
WTF is that even supposed to mean?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
WTF is that even supposed to mean?

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Instead of calling it what it actually is, radical Islamic terror ( aka NecroMuslim terrorism ) the politically correct morons in the Media and the Govt, in an attempt to not " offend " , call such things innocuous names like 'work place violence', as happened with Major Nidal Hasan at the Ft Hood massacre.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:.

"It's not all about us. It's not all about our own political agenda. People have lost lives, now is not the time to making political statements."

And keep saying it, until it penetrates your boney skulls.

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On a day filled with terror and hate comes a simple, sweet and beautifully poignant message of love.

This afternoon, a woman called Rachael posted on social media about an experience she’d had on a Sydney train.

Sitting beside her was a Muslim woman, who was silently removing her hijab. She didn’t want outward signs of her religion to show for fear of misplaced retaliation from commuters about the hostage situation in Martin Place, Sydney.

Rachael ran after the woman at the next stop and said reassuringly “put it back on, I will walk with you”. The Muslim woman instantly burst into tears, hugged Rachael and then walked off alone.

Read more at http://www.mamamia.com.au/social/dear-australian-muslims-will-ride/#RT
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Sydney's Muslim community have said they are horrified by the Lindt cafe siege and are deeply concerned about individuals using spiritual realities for their "misguided political agendas".

The UN Alliance of Civilisations' Aftab Malik, who also works as a scholar-in-residence at the Lebanese Muslim Association in Lakemba in south-west Sydney, said he was shocked by what had taken place.

"My reaction is one of shock, horror, aversion and of deep concern," Mr Malik said.

"I feel the Muslim community has been facing a series of unfortunate events.

They're bankrupt individuals using these very lofty spiritual ideals to justify and endorse their misguided ways.
Aftab Malik, Lebanese Muslim Association

"Like anyone else they are deeply concerned how it's a possibility that yet again their faith has been dragged through the mud by a group of young individuals who represent no one but themselves."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-15/sydney-siege-muslim-community-re
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"AUST gets wake-call with Sydney terror. Only Daily Telegraph caught the bloody outcome at 2.00 am. Congrats," Murdoch tweeted.

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It was eerily prescient, a mangled missive from a man who never felt he belonged to this world and didn't believe he would be here long. "Sheik Haron is just a small soldier," wrote Martin Place gunman Man Haron Monis, in 2007, on the Muslim website, Austrolabe. Assuming his bogus clerical title, "Sheik Haron", and writing about himself in the third person, Monis said he "did not have permanent visa of this world, so he knows he is on tourist visa and soon or later he will leave. Permanent visa only for hereafter, so in that case why are we wasting our time?"

Monis departed this world in the early hours of Tuesday morning, shot dead by police in the Lindt Cafe, leaving behind a broken life of lies, crime and conspiracies. Delusional and paranoid, the 50-year-old Monis was a confused and chimerical figure, a one-time poet and Shiite cleric who hid his message of hate in plain view, for all to see, and becoming, in time, a refugee of niche extremism.

"The guy was a total outcast," said Australian Iranian man Yavar Tayebi. "No one in our community, none of the Iranian Shiites, wanted a bar of him."

"You take one look and think, he is an idiot," said Sheik Mousselmani, President of the Supreme Islamic Shia Council of Australia, who warned Federal Police about Monis in 2008. "Nothing about him added up."

Monis was born in 1964 in Iran, where he practised as a cleric and published a book of poetry in Persian, called Daroon and Boroon (Inside and Outside). Monis claimed also to have worked for the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence and Security, where he witnessed torture and was privy to the government's "terrorist operations". But after advocating a more liberal Islam, he was forced to flee, leaving behind a wife and two daughters and coming to Australia, where he was granted political asylum in 1996.

"I have some secret information on the [Iranian] government," he told the ABC's Religion Report in 2001. "The Iranian regime wants to make me silent."

In Sydney, Monis assumed the title Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi, and staged a protest on Macquarie Street, where he chained himself to Parliament House to highlight the plight of his family. "That's when I noticed him," said Sheik Mousselmani. "He claimed to be a sheik, but the way he dressed, the way he talked, even the way he walked, it just wasn't right."

Sheik Mousselmani asked around the Iranian Shiite community, but could find no one who knew of this new, mysterious "Ayatollah". "He seemed to come from nowhere." Alarmed by his erratic behaviour, Sheik Mousselmani then told Federal Police about him, but didn't hear back.

Monis was by now attempting to gather a following, but his efforts to preach were disastrous. "It was ridiculous," Mr Tayebi said. "He got up in the pulpit at the Nabi Akram Islamic Centre, a Shia centre in Granville, but within two or three minutes they took him down and kicked him out."

In August of 2003, Monis married Sydney woman Noleen Hayson Pal, who he meet at university, where she was studying forensic science. "She was very much in love, and he made [Noleen] happy, so we were OK with it," said Pal's cousin, Faziya Khalik, who lives in California.

In 2004, the couple had the first of their two sons. But the marriage soon soured: according to Khalik, Monis became violent. "She said he was hitting her; I just said you deserve so much better."

Pal and her family suspected that Monis was seeing other women, which, in a sense, he was. By now, the ersatz sheik was running a spiritual consultancy in Station Street, Wentworthville, where he claimed to be an expert in astrology, numerology, meditation and black magic. There, under the guise of a "healing technique", he is alleged to have sexually assaulted a 27-year-old, later insisting that she not tell anyone. (Monis was finally charged for this in 2014). In the mid 2000s, Monis and Pal had another child, soon after which they divorced.

By 2007, Monis had taken an intense interest in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. "I met with him in 2008," said Jamal Daoud, from the Shia based Social Justice Network. "He said he was an activist, and that wanted to protest Australia's involvement in the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. But he was very secretive with everything he did. He had a website where he posted all these videos, but wouldn't tell us where he was getting his money or anything. When we pressed him, he said he'd sold his house in Iran and that's what he was living off."

In 2008, Monis took Daoud to a warehouse off Canterbury Road, in Campsie. "He called it Darul Ifta [The House of Mufti]," said Daoud. "He said he had registered it with Fair Trading as a prayer hall and religious organisation."

But the bulk of Monis' "activism" seems to have consisted of writing abusive letters to the parents of Australian servicemen who had been killed in Afghanistan; in one letter, he referred to a deceased soldier as the "son of a dirty pig" and "dirty animal". (He also sent a similar letter to the family of the Austrade official Craig Senger, who was killed in the bombing of the Marriott Hotel in Jakarta in 2009. Monis claimed the letters were his own version of a "flower basket" or "condolence card".)

After being duly arrested and charged for this, Monis turned his 2009 court appearance into a spectacle, chaining himself to a railing and waving tiny Australian flags, and even appealing to children's band, The Wiggles to "make a special show for Iraqi, Afghani, and Australian kids that have lost their parents in war".

Monis received 300 hours of community service and was placed on a two-year good behaviour bond. But he was becoming increasingly deranged, sending volleys of bizarre letters to journalists and magistrates; he faxed Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, claiming that the Victorian bushfires were a punishment from Allah, a revenge on Australia for the government seeking the death penalty for the Bali bombers. He became convinced that the Australian government was hacking Google to give Muslims a bad name. In his videos, often accompanied by the sounds of bullets and bombs, he claimed the Holocaust was a "punishment", that police were corrupt, and rape victims deserved what they got.

At other times, his accomplice, 34-year-old Amirah Droudis, preached poker faced about their peaceful intentions: "I assure you, that Sheik Haron does not need a gun," said Droudis. "His weapon is a spiritual one."

But their world was beginning to implode. In November 2013, Droudis was charged with the murder of Moni's ex wife, Noleen Pal, who was stabbed multiple times and her body burnt. Haron was also charged by NSW Police with being an accessory to the murder, but given bail. (The judge claimed the the prosecution case was weak, and that both the accused had alibis.) Then, in October 2014, Monis was presented with another 40 indecent and sexual assault charges relating to his Wentworthville "spiritual clinic".

He was out on bail when he set off from his home in North Bexley, for the Lindt cafe, in Martin Place, on Monday, where his "visa [for] this world" would be terminated.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
2gb is sydney radio. Don't get it here. Not sure why you would.

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Well, thanks to technology, ( TuneIn radio app ) , I can listen to all manner of radio stations, nation wide and world wide. It's awesome!

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This is Murdoch's response to the siege

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"AUST gets wake-call with Sydney terror. Only Daily Telegraph caught the bloody outcome at 2.00 am. Congrats," Murdoch tweeted.

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Happy about his headlines. Prick.

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2gb is sydney radio. Don't get it here. Not sure why you would.

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Well, thanks to technology, ( TuneIn radio app ) , I can listen to all manner of radio stations, nation wide and world wide. It's awesome!

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This is Murdoch's response to the siege

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"AUST gets wake-call with Sydney terror. Only Daily Telegraph caught the bloody outcome at 2.00 am. Congrats," Murdoch tweeted.

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Happy about his headlines. Prick.

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Yeah, that doesn't exactly make happy joy joy feelings in the Pub relations dept.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Yeah, what a fucking pair of bozos. Special kudos to JSF for being so crazy that he makes Rap look relatively sane.

So nothing of note to be said here. Move along and let it die another pointless death of RWED - leave the irrelevant bullshit by the right wing nutjobs and descend into general disinterest.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

Yeah, what a fucking pair of bozos. Special kudos to JSF for being so crazy that he makes Rap look relatively sane.

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All I did was answer a question and give out pertinent information.

How's that earn being called a bozo ??

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
If I may MD, I have to say that upon reading what those 2 hostages did for a fellow human being was stirring and deeply satisfying to know, that there are good people left on this earth. As our neighbors "down under" might say "Good on ya!"

That, to me, is the single most heroic thing I have ever heard (or read), to give one's life in defense of another, defending the defenseless, is the greatest sacrifice one could make. And no amount of abject ignorance could ever change that.

Hell has a place card for those who think like Murdoch.

This was a thug in Muslim clothing, nothing more. A rap sheet as long as your arm, seeking his moment, his 15 minutes.....nothing more. Suicide by cop, as you correctly put it, nothing more. A nutter, as you correctly stated, nothing more.

There is a place in heaven, as well as in the hearts and minds of good people everywhere throughout the world for those 2 heroes.


SGG

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All I did was answer a question and give out pertinent information.

How's that earn being called a bozo ??

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She called you and JSF "a fucking pair of bozos." I forget sometimes how fine you are with that.

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Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:

(Rap makes it all about America. Note no compassion for the victims)

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

Magonsbitch is just a fucking big mouth thread whore.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
What is wrong with you? Why do you always resort to this shit? Were you not breastfed as a child? Are you still going through puberty? C a n y o u u n d e r s t a n d e n g l i s h o r d o y o u n e e d s p e c i a l t r a n s l a t i o n ?


SGG

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Hands off your goolies, Jongs.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Magon's whore daughter.

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