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DAYam! The retail forex market is busted!

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Friday, January 16, 2015 12:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I was looking for a way to get into the forex market, I think I have a pretty good idea (most of the time, anyway) which way currencies will jump. But that 100:1 leverage? THAT'S a scary deal! Too rich for my blood, anyway.

Four of the retail forex platforms I was actually looking at -Alpari and OANDA most seriously - have just lost 90% of their value, on a move no one could have predicted - the Swiss National Bank uncapped its currency (franc) relative to the Euro.

FXCM is the most transparent and publicly-traded online retail forex platform. No matter how you look at it, that's a bad image!



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-16/largest-retail-fx-broker-stoc
k-crashes-90-swiss-contagion-spreads


The Swiss apparently expect the Euro to fall in value even more, as Dhragi twists Merkel's arm into some sort of "quantitative easing".

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Friday, January 16, 2015 1:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And here is the reason why ...

Greek Debt Will Not Be Included In Bond-Buying Plan; ECB's Knot Warns QE "Distorts Markets"

DRAGHI PRESENTED QE PLAN TO SCHAEUBLE, MERKEL, SPIEGEL SAYS

Quote:

Once again the clear preference for holding Swiss Francs over Euros was evident today as EURCHF re-collapsed from over 1.02 to under 0.9750 now. Overnight news from Greece suggesting bank runs are under way was then added to as Bloomberg reports, Greece is set to run out of cash by mid-year if it can’t break the deadlock over its rescue program, according to two international officials. Now, in the final "FU" to Greece, following Wolfgang Schaeuble's earlier comments that Greece does not have a debt problem, Der Spiegel reports after the European close that ECB QE will not include Greek bonds due to their low rating... but will see national central banks buying own-country debt.


The ECB is on the horns of a dilemma. Years ago, German, Finnish and Dutch banks loaned money to Greece (also Spain, Ireland, and Portugal, but that's another story). When the financial system collapsed, those loans collapsed with it, and the German, Finnish, and Dutch banks were left holding worthless contracts. So "the troika" - the European Commission (EC), the IMF, and the European Central Bank (ECB) devised a program in which the various nations would be put on the hook for those commercial loans, the ECB would loan money to the nations, and the nations would then have to pay back the ECB out of their populations' money. In other words, it was a transfer of wealth from Greek, Spanish, Irish, and Portuguese pockets thru the ECB into the coffers of German etc. commercial banks. This set off Great-Depression-style economic contraction in the affected countries - one which you don't read much about, but the level of poverty is truly astounding.

Germany in particular wants to punish Greece. Unfortunately, the "punishment" policy is failing from an economic viewpoint, as the collapsed Greek economy has even LESS of a chance of paying back its debt than it did before the loans. (Something about not being able to squeeze blood from turnips?)

As savers, Germany wants to maintain the value of the Euro, so any increase in monetary supply which might devalue the Euro is verboten! as far as the Germans are concerned. ECB's Draghi OTOH sees that the Eurozone economy is sinking into a triple-dip recession, he feels he must do SOMEthing to boost the economy.

To appease Germany, it seems that the ECB will embark on "quantitative easing" for everyone --- except Greece. That means that the ECB will buy up national bonds and other assets to release Euros into the market for everyone- except Greece - in the hopes of stimulating the economy.

Greece, as you know, will be holding elections Jan 25. Syriza is widely expected to win. It was Syriza's intention to renegotiate some terms of their loans, but the ECB has been steadfast that it will not renegotiate. Perhaps this is just pre-election fearmongering in the hopes of knocking Syriza out of the running, but if Syriza wins and renegotiation is impossible, a Grexit will follow.

There is a branch dangling just outside of Greece's reach right now, but that is the Blue Stream Pipeline, currently destined to pass through Turkey and end (maybe) at Greece's border. This would give Greece a tremendous boost in finances due to transit fees. Also, Russia may be ready to welcome Greece into the Customs Union (or Eurasian Common Trading Zone, or one of the many trade agreements which are springing up like mushrooms nowadays) and begin pulling the EU apart, piece by piece. But I believe Dhragi has decided that it's better to lose Greece than lose Germany.



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Friday, January 16, 2015 6:07 PM

THGRRI





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Friday, January 16, 2015 6:08 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And here is the reason why ...

Greek Debt Will Not Be Included In Bond-Buying Plan; ECB's Knot Warns QE "Distorts Markets"

DRAGHI PRESENTED QE PLAN TO SCHAEUBLE, MERKEL, SPIEGEL SAYS

Quote:

Once again the clear preference for holding Swiss Francs over Euros was evident today as EURCHF re-collapsed from over 1.02 to under 0.9750 now. Overnight news from Greece suggesting bank runs are under way was then added to as Bloomberg reports, Greece is set to run out of cash by mid-year if it can’t break the deadlock over its rescue program, according to two international officials. Now, in the final "FU" to Greece, following Wolfgang Schaeuble's earlier comments that Greece does not have a debt problem, Der Spiegel reports after the European close that ECB QE will not include Greek bonds due to their low rating... but will see national central banks buying own-country debt.


The ECB is on the horns of a dilemma. Years ago, German, Finnish and Dutch banks loaned money to Greece (also Spain, Ireland, and Portugal, but that's another story). When the financial system collapsed, those loans collapsed with it, and the German, Finnish, and Dutch banks were left holding worthless contracts. So "the troika" - the European Commission (EC), the IMF, and the European Central Bank (ECB) devised a program in which the various nations would be put on the hook for those commercial loans, the ECB would loan money to the nations, and the nations would then have to pay back the ECB out of their populations' money. In other words, it was a transfer of wealth from Greek, Spanish, Irish, and Portuguese pockets thru the ECB into the coffers of German etc. commercial banks. This set off Great-Depression-style economic contraction in the affected countries - one which you don't read much about, but the level of poverty is truly astounding.

Germany in particular wants to punish Greece. Unfortunately, the "punishment" policy is failing from an economic viewpoint, as the collapsed Greek economy has even LESS of a chance of paying back its debt than it did before the loans. (Something about not being able to squeeze blood from turnips?)

As savers, Germany wants to maintain the value of the Euro, so any increase in monetary supply which might devalue the Euro is verboten! as far as the Germans are concerned. ECB's Draghi OTOH sees that the Eurozone economy is sinking into a triple-dip recession, he feels he must do SOMEthing to boost the economy.

To appease Germany, it seems that the ECB will embark on "quantitative easing" for everyone --- except Greece. That means that the ECB will buy up national bonds and other assets to release Euros into the market for everyone- except Greece - in the hopes of stimulating the economy.

Greece, as you know, will be holding elections Jan 25. Syriza is widely expected to win. It was Syriza's intention to renegotiate some terms of their loans, but the ECB has been steadfast that it will not renegotiate. Perhaps this is just pre-election fearmongering in the hopes of knocking Syriza out of the running, but if Syriza wins and renegotiation is impossible, a Grexit will follow.

There is a branch dangling just outside of Greece's reach right now, but that is the Blue Stream Pipeline, currently destined to pass through Turkey and end (maybe) at Greece's border. This would give Greece a tremendous boost in finances due to transit fees. Also, Russia may be ready to welcome Greece into the Customs Union (or Eurasian Common Trading Zone, or one of the many trade agreements which are springing up like mushrooms nowadays) and begin pulling the EU apart, piece by piece. But I believe Dhragi has decided that it's better to lose Greece than lose Germany.



AND HER WE GO,,,,

SIGNYM posts a quote and then enlightens us with her thoughts on it below. What's the problem? Only 19% of her comments are hers. When run through a plagiarism checker it shows 79% of her post as already existing, written by another or others. Look how she carefully shows us what text she is quoting above while deceiving some here with her not quoted text below. Notice I say some here.

Second point. She mixes her comments within the story in order to twist and manipulate actual researched material to fit her agenda. To mean something else. Here you go ELVISCHRIST, I am pointing this out because it is something you would not other wise figure out. GET IT NOW!!!

Whatever SIGNYM posts, it is deceptive and cannot be counted on to be accurate. Where you see the comment good, it is only suggesting original content. Not that said content is accurate or true. There is a difference between voicing an opinion and taking researched material and changing it's theme to fit your own misleading the reader.


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of a dilemma. Years ago, German, Finnish and Dutch banks

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)

Greece (also Spain, Ireland, and Portugal, but that's another

Good

another story). When the financial system collapsed, those

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


system collapsed, those loans collapsed with it, and the German,

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)

collapsed with it, and the German, Finnish, and Dutch banks

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)

worthless contracts. So "the troika" - the European Commission

Good


Commission (EC), the IMF, and the European Central Bank (ECB)

Good

commercial loans, the ECB would loan money to the nations,

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)

to the nations, and the nations would then have to pay back

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


populations' money. In other words, it was a transfer of wealth

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)

wealth from Greek, Spanish, Irish, and Portuguese pockets thru

Check In Detail


of German etc. commercial banks. This set off Great-Depression-style

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


read much about, but the level of poverty is truly astounding.

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


punish Greece. Unfortunately, the "punishment" policy is

Good


economic viewpoint, as the collapsed Greek economy has even

Check In Detail


before the loans. (Something about not being able to squeeze

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


value of the Euro, so any increase in monetary supply which

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


are concerned. ECB's Draghi OTOH sees that the Eurozone

Check In Detail

triple-dip recession, he feels he must do SOMEthing to boost the

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


except Greece. That means that the ECB will buy up national

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


elections Jan 25. Syriza is widely expected to win. It was

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


expected to win. It was Syriza's intention to renegotiate

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


of their loans, but the ECB has been steadfast that it will

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


not renegotiate. Perhaps this is just pre-election fearmongering

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


of the running, but if Syriza wins and renegotiation is

Good


is impossible, a Grexit will follow.

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


reach right now, but that is the Blue Stream Pipeline, currently

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


Stream Pipeline, currently destined to pass through Turkey

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)


Greece's border. This would give Greece a tremendous boost

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)

transit fees. Also, Russia may be ready to welcome Greece

Check In Detail


Trading Zone, or one of the many trade agreements which

Existing (Jan 16, 2015)

the EU apart, piece by piece. But I believe Dhragi has




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Saturday, January 17, 2015 1:22 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Apparently, THUGR, you don't understand that EVERYTHING we write is non-original. The alphabet - somebody else invented it. So there goes the original content right there! The word "the"... wow, not original either! Common phrases like "horns of a dilemma" ... well, heck, somebody used it already!

You see, you nitwit, it's plagiarism if you can show that I've used one (or two, or maybe if I'm really ambitious, three) articles extensively. All YOU'VE found is random phrases scattered here and there, in god knows how many articles. So, thank you for proving that I've researched the topic. If you have been on the forum for as long as other people have, you would know that I frequently post here about economic topics. Have been since before 2007.

Sheesh. My god, an ape with access to a plagiarism checker who has no idea what plagiarism is.

And my "agenda" is simply to provide information. I find this stuff interesting. What are you so tweaked about?

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Sunday, January 18, 2015 2:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"That means that the ECB will buy up national bonds and other assets to release Euros into the market for everyone- except Greece - in the hopes of stimulating the economy."



It depends on who the money goes to. If - as in the US - the money goes to the banks - it'll simply drive another bubble, perhaps a stock-market bubble like we've seen. The other bubble, which has burst, is the fracking/ tar-sands bubble. While the banks were busy not loaning to consumers, it looks like they were busy loaning to high-investment (loans) oil and gas production.

Many years ago I read an article - by whom I don't remember - titled "The Bubble Economy". It did a good job tracing the history of economic bubbles, detailing the causes of each one, and explaining the importance of bubbles to maintaining the appearance of a healthy economy. Hence, as the article concluded, despite the fact that economic bubbles are hollow and fragile, just like a physical soap bubble is, they are at least tolerated if not outright nurtured by government policies, to 'prove' that everything is A-OK.


THUGR is an idiot. He'd accuse you of plagiarizing 'good morning' or 'conservation of momentum' if you used those phrases. He's completely oblivious to the fact that there are common phrases both in real life and in subject matter topics, that are used by everyone. But, as you pointed out, all he found were references that show just how much research you'd done.

Plus, good plagiarism software isn't available to just anyone. So he's outed himself as being here on official duty.

GOOD JOB THUGR! Don't forget to tell your bosses what a smooth move you made.





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