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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Osama might very well be dead.

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We didn't go into Iraq 'because' we couldn't find Osama. Had we brought OBL's head on a stick in the 1st week of that war, we'd still gone into Iraq. Iraq is another matter entirely.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Osama might very well be dead.
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Show me the corpse.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Ooo imma prolly annoy some folk, but what the hell...

Kerry, know why ?

It ain't even about mosta the issues, you see, I don't even truly mind the whole world conquest game, save for one pointed factor.

THEY BUNGLED IT.

We coulda used a combination of shyster diplomacy, assassination (c'mon, it's a time-honored *tradition* of american politics and foreign policy), economic squeeze plays to have everything we wanted, and if we'd played it right, they'd have been happy to give it to us!

Use someone else's troops as cannon fodder, then move in an 'secure' the resources you want, "ok, we'll take it from here, folks.."

Not all wars are decided on the battlefield, some are truly decided in the stock market floor, or the negotiating table - you use the best tactics for the situation, instead of going toe-to-toe in situations where your opponent has every advantage over you, and you DON'T let your ego prevent you from using allies to pick up the slack, even if you have to play nice with them for a little while, and you don't "stay the course" when yer headed for an iceberg, you change your tactics!

So, the current administration has completely BUNGLED the world conquest game, and like any employee who totally screws the pooch, they're gonna be FIRED.

As for third parties ? sure, they sound like they got a plan, but they DON'T... they come to a rigged game and play it by the cheaters rules, and then expect to get anywhere? PUH-leaze.
You can NOT 'play nice' in politics and win, it's a dirty, shameful business where an incumbent has EVERY advantage, from press coverage to gerrymandering - and the only way they ever really lose is if an opponent plays real hardball with em, and they're an incompetent bungler to boot.

There IS no 'play nice' that's gonna work when it comes to third parties, the only one even CLOSE to angry enough was Dean, and he allowed the press (fully in the control of the incumbents) to set his pace, his race - and paid the price for it.

I will not vote for a third party till they're angry enough and MEAN enough, to ram the iron fist of the american peoples' suzerainty down the throat of the politican machine till it chokes, and then put the big bad boot of the people up the rear of corporate american and the military-industrial complex that's turned us all into tax-slave fodder to feed the ever-growing beast.

Till they can do that, till they're WILLING to do that, no matter what it takes, no third party is worth my vote.

Don't get me wrong, I despise Kerry almost as I hate Bush the Bungler, but seeing how NO ONE has been punished or held accountable for this total FUBAR - it's up to us to get out the paddle and spank ole George right out of public office.

And if Kerry screws it up just as bad, IMPEACH his waffling arse - it's just that simple.
We pay them to get a job done, and if it ain't getting done, we need to FIRE them.

So here's to handing those bungling incompetents some pink slips, and a waffling idiot is the only thing we have to replace em, there's plenty more pink paper in my printer....

You are "We the people", the power is yours - play to WIN, for once, instead of playing 'nice'.

-F
(Umm, for them that don't already know, i'm an anarchist of the non-pacifist stripe, so take that into account here...)

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Auraptor- My, but you change evidential requirements very quickly! One moment you're pointing to "mountains of evidence"

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That fits their M.O., and there's nothing to suggest otherwise.

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