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Five questions about federal challenge to Arizona immigration law

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UPDATED: Wednesday, July 7, 2010 14:49
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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 9:58 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


I see the fed is suing the "papers please" law. Wonder how it will turn out? If anyone's interested:
Quote:

Q: What's the Obama administration's argument against the Arizona immigration law?

A: While most of the criticism of the law has been that it could encourage racial profiling, the administration's challenge is based on the so-called supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution -- that when state and federal laws conflict, federal law is supreme.

In this case, the administration is saying that anything that relates to foreign policy or relations with other countries is strictly the province of the federal government and that Arizona's law interferes with a federal function.

Q: What do proponents of the law say?

A: That the federal government isn't doing enough to secure the borders and tackle an issue they say is plaguing the state's economy and safety.

Brewer, a Republican, said that the Arizona law was designed "to complement, not supplant, enforcement of federal immigration laws,

Q: What happens next?

A: A federal judge is likely to take up the issue as soon as next week, reports indicate.

CNN Senior Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin said the lawsuit is most likely headed up the appeals court chain.

"I think this will go to the district court in Arizona first, but it is likely to be appealed to the circuit court of appeals and very likely to the U.S. Supreme Court," he said.

Q: What do Americans think about the law?

A: According to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll conducted in May, 57 percent of the public favored the measure, with 37 percent opposed.

Since then, national polls by Quinnipiac University (51-31 percent in favor), ABC News/Washington Post (58-41 percent in favor) and Fox News/Opinion Dynamics (52-27 percent in favor) also indicate that a majority back the new law.

Most of the surveys also indicate that a vast majority want border security beefed up, and that most Americans also favor giving illegal immigrants now living in the U.S. the right to live here legally if they pay a fine and meet other requirements.

Q: What's the outlook for federal immigration reform legislation?

A: Several senior Democratic sources said last week they see virtually no chance of Congress taking up such a measure before November's midterm elections.

Still, the sources said it was politically crucial for the president to put pressure on Republicans and reassure angry Latino voters that Democrats haven't forgotten about this issue.

Immigration is not necessarily a make-it-or-break-it issue for the influential voting bloc. A Pew study released in 2008 indicated that Latinos placed immigration second to last on a list of seven policy priorities. The economy, education and health care were ranked as more important.

But in the months since Arizona passed its immigration law, more recent surveys have indicated that the issue has risen to the top for Latinos. A survey commissioned by the National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials indicates that the immigration debate has made Latinos more likely to vote in November.




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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 10:21 AM

KANEMAN


Where is the question....What do Arizonians think about Their law?.....70+% agree. And that moron is all that matters....try again



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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 10:52 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


In number 1, while it adds that most of the argument has been about racial profiling, it explains the basis of the administration’s lawsuit.

In number 2, explains that proponents say the federal government isn’t doing enough, which is absolutely true. I’ve long believed the law was a move on their part to FORCE the government to deal with the issue. I think it got turned around into something else with a different result than its original intent.

Number 3 just explains the process from here on.

Number 4 notes what various surveys say.

Number 5 says it probably won’t be dealt with by the federal government at least for a while, and that while immigration was a low priority for Latinos before, the law has made it much more important to them.

How does that constitute “moron”? What Arizonans think of the law is not "the" question, it is one of the questions. There were only five put up in this article, and they were for inforamtion purposes. I just thought anyone who didn't know about them might find them illuminating. I don't see it as biased; or is it just your dislike of me that brought about the instinctive reaction?

By the way, that's a pretty weak signature, quoting yourself at your ugliest, then quoting Mike and making an ugly snark. One would think you could do better, but I guess you can't find enough nasty stuff from others, eh?


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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 11:39 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:
Where is the question....What do Arizonians think about Their law?.....70+% agree. And that moron is all that matters....try again



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Kaneman wrote, "I like sucking horse cum out of a dog's asshole......Well, it's true........"




An overwhelming majority in the South favored segregation, too, moron.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:23 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
In number 1, while it adds that most of the argument has been about racial profiling, it explains the basis of the administration’s lawsuit.

In number 2, explains that proponents say the federal government isn’t doing enough, which is absolutely true. I’ve long believed the law was a move on their part to FORCE the government to deal with the issue. I think it got turned around into something else with a different result than its original intent.

Number 3 just explains the process from here on.

Number 4 notes what various surveys say.

Number 5 says it probably won’t be dealt with by the federal government at least for a while, and that while immigration was a low priority for Latinos before, the law has made it much more important to them.

How does that constitute “moron”? What Arizonans think of the law is not "the" question, it is one of the questions. There were only five put up in this article, and they were for inforamtion purposes. I just thought anyone who didn't know about them might find them illuminating. I don't see it as biased; or is it just your dislike of me that brought about the instinctive reaction?

By the way, that's a pretty weak signature, quoting yourself at your ugliest, then quoting Mike and making an ugly snark. One would think you could do better, but I guess you can't find enough nasty stuff from others, eh?


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
signing off


”Niki--condescending arrogant fat old bi-polar hag....You are an asshole...one does not need a sockpuppet to tell you to fuck off"...”eat shit you big government whore.....” ...sayeth Kane

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Hey Niki...I got my signature right off of yours you pig...

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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


Hey Niki...I got my signature right off of yours...

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”Niki--condescending arrogant fat old bi-polar hag....You are an asshole...one does not need a sockpuppet to tell you to fuck off" ...sayeth Kane

Kaneman wrote, "I like sucking horse cum out of a dog's asshole......Well, it's true........"




And I got mine straight off yours, RiverKane...

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:31 PM

WHOZIT


Question #6

Does Eric Holder still do that act with the Donkey?

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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:31 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by kaneman:


Hey Niki...I got my signature right off of yours...

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”Niki--condescending arrogant fat old bi-polar hag....You are an asshole...one does not need a sockpuppet to tell you to fuck off" ...sayeth Kane

Kaneman wrote, "I like sucking horse cum out of a dog's asshole......Well, it's true........"




And I got mine straight off yours, RiverKane...

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.

Kaneman wrote, "I like sucking horse cum out of a dog's asshole......Well, it's true........"





You are gay.....still

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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:37 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
A: While most of the criticism of the law has been that it could encourage racial profiling, the administration's challenge is based on the so-called supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution -- that when state and federal laws conflict, federal law is supreme.

In this case, the administration is saying that anything that relates to foreign policy or relations with other countries is strictly the province of the federal government and that Arizona's law interferes with a federal function.



Researching in another thread on this I found that the U.S. Code does require any immigrant over 18 to have on their person at all times proof of their legal immigration status. Apparently the U.S. government is not ensuring compliance with this law. So what's a State government to do when it's got a situation, the Fed's don't enforce their own laws, and they won't allow the states to act?

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:46 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



The challenge will fail.

Napolotano herself ( as Gov of AZ ) signed into law the very thing the Feds are now trying to say is illegal.

It's not. Obama will fail.




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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 12:48 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Question #6

Does Eric Holder still do that act with the Donkey?

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin




That's not Eric Holder - that's Kaney's mom! I know, she looks like a tranny, but she still does the Donkey Show. How do you think Kaney learned all those tricks?

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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 2:24 PM

DREAMTROVE


This girl was an illegal alien

but she got deported.

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Wednesday, July 7, 2010 2:49 PM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
Question #6

Does Eric Holder still do that act with the Donkey?

Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin




That's not Eric Holder - that's Kaney's mom! I know, she looks like a tranny, but she still does the Donkey Show. How do you think Kaney learned all those tricks?

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.





Yes. Lesson #1(how to derail a thread with an unprovoked attack) is complete. You appear to be back on track. Continue to the brink boy.....

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