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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
If they wanted to shoot it down they easily could have. They were just being provacative, fuckin' with us. It helps their jingoistic propaganda efforts, and takes their citizens' minds off of the many shortages they're experiencing under the sanctions.

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Now you want a heads up on whether not I'm being sarcastic or not ?

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Washington is not happy: "It doesn't matter, they fired on us," says one unnamed US intelligence officer.

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my views are twisted and inverted

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I'm not sure how our snooping or their reaction to our snooping is new information or game-changing in any way. I doubt it was politically pertinent to the election.

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And that drone... you're saying it was a near victim of the fog of war ?

Really ?

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Who here said anything about "the fog of war", besides you?

Are you trying to say that the shoot-down of an Iranian airliner by the U.S. Navy in 1988 was due to "the fog of war"?


Which war, exactly, would that be that we were in "the fog of"?

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I'm not sure how our snooping or their reaction to our snooping is new information or game-changing in any way. I doubt it was politically pertinent to the election.

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And yet, the news of it was held until after the election.

Pretty curious handling of news that wasn't 'pertinent', huh ?


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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Who here said anything about "the fog of war", besides you?

Are you trying to say that the shoot-down of an Iranian airliner by the U.S. Navy in 1988 was due to "the fog of war"?


Which war, exactly, would that be that we were in "the fog of"?

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Iran Iraq war ?

Does the USS Stark ring a bell ?

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I'm not sure how our snooping or their reaction to our snooping is new information or game-changing in any way. I doubt it was politically pertinent to the election.

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And yet, the news of it was held until after the election.

Pretty curious handling of news that wasn't 'pertinent', huh ?

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Hello,

It's true. The delay of unremarkable news is quite remarkable.

--Anthony

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Kwickie.

Still haven't changed those poopie pants, have ya.

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I'm not sure how our snooping or their reaction to our snooping is new information or game-changing in any way. I doubt it was politically pertinent to the election.

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And yet, the news of it was held until after the election.

Pretty curious handling of news that wasn't 'pertinent', huh ?

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Hello,

It's true. The delay of unremarkable news is quite remarkable.

--Anthony

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What did the President have for breakfast on Election Day?

Why is this information being withheld from us?!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I was wrong" - Hero, 2012

Mitt Romney, introducing his running mate: "Join me in welcoming the next President of the United States, Paul Ryan!"

Rappy's response? "You're lying, gullible ( believing in some BS you heard on msnbc ) or hard of hearing."

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
fog of war
Iran / Iraq war
USS Stark
Exocet missile.
fog of war
airliner shot down... fog of war.

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So two isolated events, more than a year apart, fall under the "fog of war" heading.


But Iran isn't allowed to claim the same? After all, we're at war with so many of their neighbors at the moment, in one form or another, declared or not, human or drone. Can't they claim "fog of war" for shooting at our drone?

And wouldn't "fog of war" cover everything that happened in Libya and everywhere else?

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kwickie, I so obliterated your worthless ass in this thread, it's not even funny.

you're nothing but a punk, a troll, and a coward.

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I can always tell when you've run out of steam and have nothing else to offer in a thread. That's when you fall back on your useless "I win, you lose, name-call, name-call, name-call" tactics. Say goodnight, Gracie.

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game, set , match.

* drops mic on the floor *


" out "

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Gorsh, now he's a rap champion, too. I guess.


Settle down there, eight-mile. Check yourself, before you wreck yourself.




"I have no real clue of what you're speaking." - AuRaptor.

"Yes. I was wrong. I am sorry." - AuRaptor.

Note to self: Mr. Raptor believes that women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.

Reference thread: http://beta.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=51196

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And speaking of how quickly people seem to forget, I remember a certain U.S. warship shooting down an Iranian airliner in international airspace, too.

I'm sure they had their reasons, though. Right?

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No 'case was made' . There was,in fact, an actual war going on , between Iraq and Iran, back in the 80's. When the USS Vincennes was hit by the Exocet missile , and when the Iranian jetliner was accidentally shot down.

Both incidents occurred in a theatre of war.

There was no 'war' going on, when the drone was shot at, in int'l waters. It wasn't shooting anyone, save for possibly by video.

According to the details, as they're known, Iran was completely and fully the aggressor here, and is fully at fault.


" I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend. "

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No 'case was made' .

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"When the USS Vincennes was hit by the Exocet missile ..."

Except it was the USS Stark and it was in 1987, not 1988 when the Vincennes shot down a large civilian passenger jet. And at that time, the Vincennes was in Iranian waters, and the passenger jet was in Iranian airspace.

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No 'case was made' . There was,in fact, an actual war going on , between Iraq and Iran, back in the 80's. When the USS Stark was hit by the Exocet missile , and when the Iranian jetliner was accidentally shot down.

Both incidents occurred in a theatre of war.

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"When the USS Vincennes was hit by the Exocet missile ..."

Except it was the USS Stark and it was in 1987, not 1988 when the Vincennes shot down a large civilian passenger jet. And at that time, the Vincennes was in Iranian waters, and the passenger jet was in Iranian airspace.

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Minor error, crossing up Vincennes w/ the Stark, and I think I did get the dates correct. Neither which were germane to the issue anyways, but thanks for the clarification.

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