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Not 'some unnamed sources', not ' some partisan blogger on the inter webs ' , but the bastion of hard core conservative ...

Describing them as “serious constitutional abuses,” a Circa report has revealed that previously top secret documents show that President Barack Obama spied on Americans for years.

The National Security Agency (NSA), according to the report, “routinely violated American privacy protections” and “failed to disclose the extent of the problems until the final days before Donald Trump was elected president.”

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) claim these newly disclosed violations rank as some of the most serious to ever be documented.



http://thepoliticalinsider.com/classified-documents-obama-spying-years/




All those alleged infringements the media screamed about George W Bush having done, could have , MIGHT have done... Obama actually did , and far worse.


That puts the total to about 15 things Obama SHOULD have been impeached over, but wasn't.

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Originally posted by G:

15? Wow! Republicans must of sucked back then! Let's hope we don't screw it up so bad with Trump.

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They're gonna lose a deep red district in GA and are going to give away a sure win in Montana

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They're gonna lose a deep red district in GA and are going to give away a sure win in Montana

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Your crystal ball needs some Windex. The Republican won the election in Montana. Oops!

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
And they've given license to anybody who mindlessly agrees with them to be as rude and vile as they want to be to anybody who doesn't.

GWB was a terrible president in my eyes, yet I don't remember everyone going around saying Fuck Him. This whole damn world has gone crazy town.

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
Respect one another & pull for sanity.

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Then you weren't looking very hard.

There were " F The President " bumper stickers , which were a direct counter to the supporters of W - The President.

Then there were books and movies made about ASSASSINATING President Bush...

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That puts the total to about 15 things Obama SHOULD have been impeached over, but wasn't. - RAPPY

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15? Wow! Republicans must of sucked back then! Let's hope we don't screw it up so bad with Trump.- GSTRING

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Originally posted by Oonjerah:

6, I believe you are right.

I don't know what to say about it or how to explain how we got here ...
I wouldn't know how we got this nasty ... being an Ostrich with head
in sand, I didn't know at first that we had.

I woke up when Trump was elected, & I was appalled.
Did I want Hillary? No, not particularly.
Were there any independents running who might have been respectable?

So my friend T loves politics all his life & knows plenty about it.
"How could we elect Trump?" I asked him.

T: Most of the Republicans are such born again Christians, they'd be
very happy to escalate hostilities until we do Armageddon.
Twas also his way of saying the Republican Party leans heavily to the
batsh*t crazy side.

What I know is: There are some sane Republicans & some sane Democrats
who'd make fine US Presidents. Are they simply outnumbered?

Greg Gianforte wins a seat in MT special election & assaults a reporter
in public. Does anybody wanna change their vote?

Respect one another & pull for sanity.



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I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.

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I'm sorry I don't understand. Are you claiming to be quoting me in this post, or are you asking me a question? Is it neither? Instead, if the T you reference is a personal friend, I'm afraid he is mistaken.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
You guys know I'm no fan of Obama. I think we need to stop blaming him directly for things like this though.

Yep.... you heard me right.

It's not as if he was a evil man twirling his mustache behind that desk and he single handedly decided to spy on Americans for years.

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Just because he couldn't grow a mustache does not absolve you from your delusion.

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Just because he couldn't grow a mustache does not absolve you from your delusion.

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Please do me a favor and read the rest of the post JSF. Just because we generally tend to agree on most things politically I think I was making a valid point here and when you only quote the first 3 sentences it loses all of its value and does come off as crazy.

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They're gonna lose a deep red district in GA and are going to give away a sure win in Montana

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Your crystal ball needs some Windex. The Republican won the election in Montana. Oops!

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Yeah, I believed what I was seeing on the MSM. Fool me twice...

Fact remains, he was an idiot to lay hands on and body slam the reporter. That's just outright ridiculous, the day before the election, to snap like that and put into jeopardy all he and everyone worked so hard to achieve. Just pathetic.

But here's the flip side of the story. All the MSM are condemning him and trying to equate this to having something to do w/ Trump.

Where were all the concerned media when the DNC chair started chanting, in a public meeting " Fuck Donald Trump ! " , as he flips the middle finger ??

Where was the ' outrage' from the press when Maxine Waters openly stated " The TEA party can go straight to hell ! " ?

Sorry, but the lack of decency and decorum started with the Democrats, long ago. And when the media ignores some, and then amplifies the other, you're going to get a atmosphere like we have today.

Yes. I in part DO blame the media. They stopped being neutral observers and have been engaged in an open assault on the GOP and conservative Americans for some time now.

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Then you weren't looking very hard.

There were " F The President " bumper stickers , which were a direct counter to the supporters of W - The President.

Then there were books and movies made about ASSASSINATING President Bush...

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Alright... I'll change what I said. Of course there were some people who did that, but there always were dicks all throughout history. The difference 12-16 years ago is that they were the exception to the rule. People in general were just more decent back then.

And I'm very self aware of just what an old man saying that makes me sound like.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Hey, RapKnight! I found an error in one of your postings!

Before the word atmosphere (why not just "atmo" - we've all seen Firefly?) you should use "an" instead of "a" already.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I did read your post, and just re-read it.

The remainder of your post did not pertain to your misstatement, which I quoted. I was pointing out your false statement proclaiming Obama to be innocent or blameless, devoid of responsibility for his evil or his rampant criminal actions.

When your argument is based upon false statements as foundation, your entire assembly is a House of Cards which collapses at the first hard look. I did not quote the argument you made following your false statement.

And yes, I do assume that most insane people view reasonable people as crazy, as well as the world around them as a whole.

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Then you weren't looking very hard.

There were " F The President " bumper stickers , which were a direct counter to the supporters of W - The President.

Then there were books and movies made about ASSASSINATING President Bush...

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Alright... I'll change what I said. Of course there were some people who did that, but there always were dicks all throughout history. The difference 12-16 years ago is that they were the exception to the rule. People in general were just more decent back then.

And I'm very self aware of just what an old man saying that makes me sound like.

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Sorry, the MSM was not more decent back then.
You were just more drunk, so you likely weren't paying attention. Critical thinking is much more difficult when you are in that condition.

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Originally posted by G:
The truth is Trump really is that bad. Russia really just bent you /us over and had their way with us and people like you are too >blank< to understand. Trump makes us the laughing stock of the world. You thought it was bad under Bush? Did you travel outside the US when he was prez? Did you read anything political when Bush was prez? It's worse with Trump. Thank the godz we actually have a huge economy so we still have some cred in the world. Trump makes Bush seem almost regal by comparison. Trump is a flim flam man, a bad con artist, a 2 bit penny ante salesman in a cheap suit. He makes us all look bad and very little good will come from him except maybe he'll be the swift kick in the pants we all needed, "look what can happen if you don't work together!"
Are you seeing how demented he is? This guy needs handlers, dozens of them, just to keep him from taking his pants off in public. Thankfully, if all goes well, he will end up doing very little but work on his golf game. Fingers crossed that Fux News keeps bleeding reporters and they start to see a bigger audience wanting to hear about his mistakes. Thank the gods that there is so much public anger and outcry against him. Do you think all these people are being mad for fun??? I don't blame you really - if you don't read things you couldn't possibly know.

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They're gonna lose a deep red district in GA and are going to give away a sure win in Montana

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Your crystal ball needs some Windex. The Republican won the election in Montana. Oops!

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Yeah, I believed what I was seeing on the MSM. Fool me twice...

Fact remains, he was an idiot to lay hands on and body slam the reporter. That's just outright ridiculous, the day before the election, to snap like that and put into jeopardy all he and everyone worked so hard to achieve. Just pathetic.


But here's the flip side of the story. All the MSM are condemning him and trying to equate this to having something to do w/ Trump.

Where were all the concerned media when the DNC chair started chanting, in a public meeting " Fuck Donald Trump ! " , as he flips the middle finger ??

Where was the ' outrage' from the press when Maxine Waters openly stated " The TEA party can go straight to hell ! " ?

Sorry, but the lack of decency and decorum started with the Democrats, long ago. And when the media ignores some, and then amplifies the other, you're going to get an POLITICAL atmo like we have today.

Yes. I in part DO blame the media. They stopped being neutral observers and have been engaged in an open assault on the GOP and conservative Americans for some time now.

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Sorry, the MSM was not more decent back then.
You were just more drunk, so you likely weren't paying attention. Critical thinking is much more difficult when you are in that condition.

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I didn't say the MSM was more decent back then. I said that people in general were more decent back then.

And seriously dude. Did you start taking debate lessons from T or something? Bringing up my drinking problem to "win" an argument I didn't even know we were having until now?

Go fuck yourself.

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Sorry, the MSM was not more decent back then.
You were just more drunk, so you likely weren't paying attention. Critical thinking is much more difficult when you are in that condition.

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I didn't say the MSM was more decent back then. I said that people in general were more decent back then.

And seriously dude. Did you start taking debate lessons from T or something? Bringing up my drinking problem to "win" an argument I didn't even know we were having until now?

Go fuck yourself.

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I didn't know it was a sore spot for you. I had the impression you had a more casual perspective on it.
Some people miss things - like facts - because they have their Libtards blinders on, or keep up their FACTS Vaccine Booster shots. Some because of what you were doing. I was merely pointing out a fact you may have overlooked, not trying to start a fight or argument.

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My bad. I apologize. It's become the norm for one or two posters here to try to "win" arguments with me now by pulling the Drunk Card on me when they have nothing else. I admit that it has become something of a sore spot for me over time here because of that.

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My bad. I apologize. It's become the norm for one or two posters here to try to "win" arguments with me now by pulling the Drunk Card on me when they have nothing else. I admit that it has become something of a sore spot for me over time here because of that.

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I know, that's been pulled on me a couple of times by certain posters here (and they know who they are). It does suck when someone pulls that lame shit, so I'm with you on this one Six. I think it's cheap and tawdry, and quite generally sucks elephant balls.

So, what I do is ignore it. It was the only, and best way for me to cope with it. Sometimes I let my anger get the best of me and I lash out at these "folks" - you know, give 'em a taste of their own medicine. But in the long run, it's not worth it. We all believe what we believe, and so we argue, fuss and fight to get our point across. But it seems some can't handle it, so they resort to insults. Then they ridicule you when you fire back. I see it as a form of bullying, it's all it is.

I'm being real here Jack. I'm not trying to snow you on this one. It's insulting and degrading, but little do they know that it's on them.

Okay, I'm stepping back with my "white flag" of truce.


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One of the major offenders chimes in on schedule...

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Make that two. Facts are facts, and if you stick to the facts and it applies, then its warranted.

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I'm still waiting for a link to the original report.

The 'news' media must have had access to it, or they couldn't have reported on it so specifically. Why didn't they link it? Why isn't it on the inet?

Not that I don't trust reporters - but, OK, I don't. It's never a good thing to take what they say on faith.

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I didn't say the MSM was more decent back then. I said that people in general were more decent back then.

And seriously dude. Did you start taking debate lessons from T or something? Bringing up my drinking problem to "win" an argument I didn't even know we were having until now?

Go fuck yourself.

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I didn't know it was a sore spot for you. I had the impression you had a more casual perspective on it.
Some people miss things - like facts - because they have their Libtards blinders on, or keep up their FACTS Vaccine Booster shots. Some because of what you were doing. I was merely pointing out a fact you may have overlooked, not trying to start a fight or argument.

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My bad. I apologize. It's become the norm for one or two posters here to try to "win" arguments with me now by pulling the Drunk Card on me when they have nothing else. I admit that it has become something of a sore spot for me over time here because of that.

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Is this what you are asking for?
I don't know if this works.


or else try links in this linky, about one-fifth the way down the virtual page, I think:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-24/fisa-court-finds-very-serious
-fourth-amendment-issue-obamas-widespread-illegal-searc

Or do these help?


http://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/

You might be looking for key dates of 26 April 2017 and 26 October 2016. Hmmm, those dates are 6 months apart.

Those are supposed to be links that I posted. If they don't turn out, try "reply with quote" function to see the linky address I posted.


http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas-team-secretly-disclosed-years-
of-illegal-nsa-searches-spying-on-americans

http://nation.foxnews.com/2017/05/24/report-obama-lied-and-obama-spied


If none of that is what you are asking for, can you elaborate more? Which document? Which date? Which source? Which report?

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
Former White House operatives Susan Rice, Samantha Power, and John Brennan get subpoenas to testify about their roles in obtaining, unmasking, and leaking classified info to Obama Admin. and the Press for political gain, all felonies under Federal law. Pandora's Box, here we come, or not. They'll just take the fifth, but it might be entertaining nonetheless.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448161/susan-rice-john-brennan-s
amantha-power-unmasking-subpoenas-house-intelligence

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OMG - you bring it up waaaaay more than anyone else! And now you have the nerve to turn it into a cry for pity?!? Unbelievable. - GSTRING

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Former White House operatives Susan Rice, Samantha Power, and John Brennan get subpoenas to testify about their roles in obtaining, unmasking, and leaking classified info to Obama Admin. and the Press for political gain, all felonies under Federal law.

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I appears to be. Thank you very much.

Broken to display: h ttps://ht ml2-f.scribdassets.com/38r1wf8slc5vvesk/images/1-01505551bc.jpg Interesting server it came off of.

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