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Fake news: CNN; NYT; VICE; WaPo; WSJ. ... now ABC .... It's like a trainwreck, but I can't stop watching
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 7:36 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:CNN Issues Strict Rules on Russia-Related Stories (Report) Following the deletion and retraction of an article Friday on CNN’s website of a story involving a Russian investment fund and the Trump transition team, the network is placing tough restrictions on stories published that involve Russia, according to BuzzFeed.
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:25 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: That's what you get for peddling fake news.
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 9:36 AM
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:01 AM
Quote:John Bonifield: Even if Russia was trying to swing an election, we try to swing their elections, our CIA is doing shit all the time, we're out there trying to manipulate governments. I haven't seen any good enough evidence to show that the President committed a crime. I know a lot of people don't like him and they'd like to see him get kicked out of office.... but that's a lot different than he actually did something that can get him kicked out of office. Russia is for ratings! PV Journalist: Why is CNN constantly like "Russia this, Russia that?" Bonifield: Because it's ratings. Our ratings are incredible right now. My boss, I shouldn't say this, my boss yesterday we were having a discussion about this dental shoot and he was like I just want you to know what we're up against here. Just to give you some context, President Trump pulled out of the climate accords. For a day and a half we covered the climate accords. And the CEO of CNN [Jeff Zucker] said in our internal meeting, he said good job everybody covering the climate accords, but we're done with it. Let's get back to Russia. But all the nice cutesy little ethics that used to get talked about in journalism school, you're just like, that's adorable. That's adorable. This is a business.
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:16 AM
6STRINGJOKER
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:19 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:20 AM
Tuesday, June 27, 2017 11:13 AM
Quote:Most of what CNN does is "bullshit" right now! How the f*ck do you not know that yet?????
Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:11 AM
Quote:Five people briefed on the interview requests, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly, said that Daniel Coats, the current director of national intelligence, Mike Rogers, head of the National Security Agency, and Rogers’s recently departed deputy, Richard Ledgett, agreed to be interviewed by Mueller’s investigators as early as this week.
Quote:A former [anonymous] senior official said Mr. Mueller’s investigation was looking at money laundering by Trump associates.
Quote:"Americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous 'officials,' particularly when they do not identify the country — let alone the branch or agency of government — with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. Americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations. The Department of Justice has a long-established policy to neither confirm nor deny such allegations.
Wednesday, June 28, 2017 5:29 PM
Wednesday, June 28, 2017 5:37 PM
Quote:Project Veritas Exposes CNN's Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger" PV Reporter: "What do you think is going to happen this week with the whole Russia thing?" Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger" PV Reporter: "Really?" Van Jones: "Yeah."
Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:10 PM
Quote:CNN: RUSSIA IS A BIG "NOTHING BURGER"- SIGNY Really??? That's your proof that Trump didn't collude with Russia??? Hi-larious, dude. How desperate are you? - GSTRING
Wednesday, June 28, 2017 7:53 PM
Thursday, June 29, 2017 7:52 AM
Thursday, June 29, 2017 12:43 PM
Thursday, June 29, 2017 6:32 PM
Friday, June 30, 2017 3:11 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: CNN: RUSSIA IS A BIG "NOTHING BURGER" Quote:Project Veritas Exposes CNN's Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger" PV Reporter: "What do you think is going to happen this week with the whole Russia thing?" Van Jones: "The Russia Thing Is Just A Big Nothing Burger" PV Reporter: "Really?" Van Jones: "Yeah." http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-28/van-jones ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck. I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
Friday, June 30, 2017 4:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, here's one more! CNN producer, caught on camera: Russia-Trump ‘mostly bulls—’ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/27/cnn-producer-caught-camera-russia-trump-mostly-bul/ But don't expect this to be covered by CNN.
Friday, June 30, 2017 6:10 AM
Friday, June 30, 2017 8:38 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: I'd imagine being a Republican at CNN would be like being the gay kid at school during the 20th century. Not very fun being in the closet, but just about the end of the world if you're outed.
Friday, June 30, 2017 9:09 AM
RIVERLOVE
Friday, June 30, 2017 9:39 AM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: New York Times Forced To Retract Longstanding Lie About Russian Interference https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate-canard/ So the whole "17 intelligence agencies confirm Russian hacking" story the Dems eagerly and desperately latched on to and gleefully spread was a big lie. It was total bullshit. Once again Susan Rice lied her ass off on tv to the American people. So did CNN, MSNBC, and the major networks. They tell and repeat the lie thousands of times since 2016, and then there's a quick silent retraction, but by then their vile lies have taken root. I never believed any of it. How fucking pathetic for those that did.
Friday, June 30, 2017 9:52 AM
Friday, June 30, 2017 9:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: New York Times Forced To Retract Longstanding Lie About Russian Interference https://consortiumnews.com/2017/06/29/nyt-finally-retracts-russia-gate-canard/ So the whole "17 intelligence agencies confirm Russian hacking" story the Dems eagerly and desperately latched on to and gleefully spread was a big lie. It was total bullshit. Once again Susan Rice lied her ass off on tv to the American people. So did CNN, MSNBC, and the major networks. They tell and repeat the lie thousands of times since 2016, and then there's a quick silent retraction, but by then their vile lies have taken root. I never believed any of it. How fucking pathetic for those that did. I never believed there even were 17 Intelligent people in DC. ==============================
Friday, June 30, 2017 10:01 AM
Friday, June 30, 2017 10:11 AM
Quote:Really, you mean the assessment made by these four intelligence agencies about the Russian hackings is not enough for you. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency.
Friday, June 30, 2017 10:18 AM
Quote:Republican who said he was working with Michael Flynn tried to get Hillary Clinton emails from hackers
Friday, June 30, 2017 10:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Republican who said he was working with Michael Flynn tried to get Hillary Clinton emails from hackers So, if this Republican researcher is looking for the emails in hacker chatrooms, it kind of implies that he had no previous connections to hackers, and didn't have the emails, otherwise he wouldn't be blindly poking around on the internet. If anything, this story exonerates this one particular individual. And if he really DID have a connection to Flynn, it exonerates Flynn as well. Correct?
Friday, June 30, 2017 11:17 AM
Quote:Congressional and legal investigations into Mr. Trump’s presidency — including his
Quote: ties to Russia, his
Quote:firing of Mr. Comey and the
Quote: overlap of his business interests and his governing responsibilities — are likely to be even more extensive than those Mr. Clinton faced.
Friday, June 30, 2017 11:29 AM
Friday, June 30, 2017 11:30 AM
Friday, June 30, 2017 11:35 AM
Quote:I'll say it again SIG (comrade). Time and the truth are on my side. Just like with Syria and the Ukraine. You have stripped yourself of any semblance of decency or truthfulness in your defense of Russia and now Trump.
Friday, June 30, 2017 11:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:I'll say it again SIG (comrade). Time and the truth are on my side. Just like with Syria and the Ukraine. You have stripped yourself of any semblance of decency or truthfulness in your defense of Russia and now Trump. What will you do if your POV implodes in real life?
Friday, June 30, 2017 11:38 AM
Quote:Truth and the facts are your biggest detractor in these threads. Not me or anyone here comrade.= THUGR
Friday, June 30, 2017 12:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Truth and the facts are your biggest detractor in these threads. Not me or anyone here comrade.= THUGR You have brought not a single fact to this thread; or to most threads. Jeez. ----------- "Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck. I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
Friday, June 30, 2017 12:44 PM
Friday, June 30, 2017 7:15 PM
Quote: Originally posted by G: I used to like Stossel way back. 1. The hand waving Trump does is different for when he mocks the handicapped reporter - it's larger. Stossel tries to minimize it by saying he mocks other people the same way. What? Stossel justifies his mocking of others? That's 5 year old sh*t.
Quote: 2. His defense of Trump saying he lied about going into Iraq? Who even remembers or cared abut what no-candidate Trump said about Iraq. Even if you do, "Yeah... I guess so." That's a defense? Weak tea bro. And then wondering why the Elite Media isn't going back to correct what they supposedly said (no cites were given by Stossel, just "I read."). Why would they spend time going backwards to clarify something that wasn't proven? Talk about a nothing burger.
Quote: 3. And why does Fox keep bringing up Hollywood? Pandering maybe? Because Fox knows their viewers hate those "rich pampered elitist fuckers!" "Like college graduates! Hate those arrogant snobs! How dare they get a college degree!" Fox plays their audience for fools, counts on them to be idiots. They actually mock their own audience.
Quote: 4. I love how he tries to portray how much attention gets in the press and how unfair that is. He coveted that same attention which got him elected rep candidate. Now it's unfair? They won't cover him if he's not bringing viewers, so if it bothers him how about he work on being boring and STF once and while? And how about the irony??? Stossel and his buddy saying how unfair the coverage of Trump is in a 12 minute piece about...? TRUMP! Yeah, even Fux knows they get more eyeballs talking about Trump. Especially "Trump being treated unfairly!"
Quote: I got as far as their outrage over the NYT publishing the 2 page spread of all of Trumps lies and insults, where and who and when. Seems they didn't get the substance of it. And now it's prophetic.
Saturday, July 1, 2017 6:29 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote: Correction: June 29, 2017 A White House Memo article on Monday about President Trump’s deflections and denials about Russia referred incorrectly to the source of an intelligence assessment that said Russia orchestrated hacking attacks during last year’s presidential election. The assessment was made by four intelligence agencies — the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the National Security Agency. The assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community.
Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Another link, this one from Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/6kclzu/new_york_times_forced_to_retract_longstanding_lie/
Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:30 PM
Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:10 PM
Quote:CNN harassed Blackmailed a 15 yr old kid, the kids posted a funny Gif online that triggers CNN Staff
Quote:CNN in odd role as censor: Network threatens free speech over Trump wrestling video https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/05/cnn-should-not-threaten-free-speech-reddit-user-jonathan-turley-column/451917001/
Quote: THUG JOURNALISM: CNN Threatens To Reveal Identity Of Reddit Man Who Made Trump-CNN Bodyslam Meme If He Disobeys Them http://www.dailywire.com/news/18259/thug-journalism-cnn-threatens-reveal-identity-ben-shapiro
Quote: CNN criticized for seemingly threatening to dox Reddit user behind Trump's wrestling video http://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/cnn-criticized-threatening-dox-reddit-users-identity-2017-7-1002149535
Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: And from our very own forum ... The very best way for CNN to enhance its reputation for fair journalism and free speech is to threaten someone who makes fun of them!
Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:50 PM
Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:56 PM
REAVERFAN
Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:58 PM
Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:03 PM
Quote:The CIA News Network (CNN) There goes CNN showing its clown ass again. ... Has the smoke cleared yet? As a much younger man and wacky artist in a previous life I would have many occasions to visit the Time Life building in Alexandria VA delivering 'copy and paste-up boards' to the art departments at various publications. ....... I noticed right away that the place was always over run with spooks and spook spin doctors. ..... They were everywhere, all of the time. .. In the halls, in meetings with editors and writers and lurking in the stairwells. ...... You would go to the men's room and there would be Odd Job picking rat fur out of his teeth in the mirror after a quick lunch in the alley. ... You would get in an elevator and some James Bond looking squirrelly dude would be adjusting the ankle holster for his little Beretta 380 between floors. Probably on his way to waving it at some editor in chief for not towing the line. A little nudge here, a little intimidation over there, some tickets to a Hawaiian vacation in an envelope. ... Trust me, I've seen the title to cute little beach house in Florida change hands for NO apparently good reason other than somebody changed a few lines in a fucking 'fictional' spy novel before it went to press. The Time Life place was a spook zoo. And then Warner bought in and the reporting really turned to shit. ..... The same with the Washington Post Building downtown DC, the CIA's home away from home. The IC has plenty of money and resources to make the story anything they chose. ........ It's almost as if they personally know some master counterfeiter and can order a batch of cash any time they want. (Yes, that's a joke,..........NOT! ... They just the US Printing Office and official printing plates to keep the quality up.) My point is, the Intelligence Community has been thoroughly controlling everything you see, hear and read in news papers, magazines, books, TV and on the radio. ... I have always known we were being fed a certain amount of "Ra, ra, ra, USA, USA!" spin, but you can only spin something just so much before parts start flying off of the cobbled up bull crap sandwich they slap together. I stopped watching TV a long time ago. Once you see sausage being made it's hard to enjoy a Jimmy Dean Breakfast Puppy (Tm). ...... You know what I mean, Vern? I used to have the Sunday Wapo delivered way out at my home in the sticks and I would skim the headlines and then go straight to the Comics Section and Doonsbury and Calvin and Hobbs to get the gory details on current events. .......... I would use Larson and The Far Side as my Editorial Opinion guru source of wisdom in depth analysis. Fiction and comedy are the only way to get the truth out past the CIA news control board. ... The CIA are good at two things. .... Stealing shit and lying. ... Or forcing other people to lie for them. Anyone who doesn't think the media is totally spook controlled and that they are constantly blowing smoke up your arse for completely nefarious, evil, selfish purposes should have the batteries checked in their little smoke alarm near the exit sign. ... It may have been smoke damaged and totally defective by now if fresh batteries don't help. Live Hard, Apply The Reverse News Rule Often,....If CNN Says Something Is Big, Ugly And Yellow It Is Probably Little, Cute And Purple, Die Free
Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:06 PM
Quote:Project Veritas? You really don't want to be taken seriously at all, do you? LOL! -REAVERFAN
Thursday, July 6, 2017 4:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Fire him? Sure - send a message. This is war. ==============================
Friday, July 7, 2017 11:59 PM
Quote:Rachel Maddow Caught In Latest Fake News Scandal; Proof Her "Forged NSA Document" Segment Was A Hoax She thought she had it. The smoking gun that would prove someone in Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians to steal the 2016 election. But, when a forged NSA document sent to Rachel Maddow turned out to be just more bad information from more anonymous sources, it left the crusading MSNBC host feeling a bit "triggered." As such, she opened her show last night with the following segment: “Somebody, for some reason, appears to be shopping a fairly convincing fake NSA document that purports to directly implicate somebody from the Trump campaign in working with the Russians in their attack in the election." “This is news, because: why is someone shopping a forged document of this kind to news organizations covering the Trump-Russia affair?”- Maddow ... Here are more details of Maddow's show from the Daily Caller: On June 7, an unidentified person sent documents to an online tip line for Maddow’s show, she said. That was two days after The Intercept published legitimate NSA documents that were stolen by Reality Winner, a contractor for the agency. And that's where Maddow's faux-outrage breaks down. You see, if it's clear that Maddow received her forgery after the intercept published their documents then there's really no 'there' there. Pretty much anyone with an internet connection could have simply taken the Reality Winner documents from The Intercept website and used them create a forgery to send to Maddow. Of course, Maddow knew that her whole story was bullshit unless she could convince her viewers that the forgery she received was created before The Intercept published it for the world to see. If she could prove that, then she could insist the forged document must have come from someone on the 'inside.' So, she decided to get 'technical' and take a look at the "metadata" on the document she received. As it turns out, the "creation date" on the document she received was roughly 3.5 hours before The Intercept published their Reality Winner story. See, it's all laid out right here on this lovely timeline graphic. Checkmate, Mr. Trump! Except, not. Ironically, by stretching the truth in an attempt to prove that her story was in any way relevant, Maddow unwittingly proved exactly the opposite. As The Intercept has subsequently pointed out, the "creation date" on the document received by Maddow (see the timeline above) perfectly matches, to the exact second, the "creation date" on The Intercept's Reality Winner document. Why? Because that is the exact time in which The Intercept created their document and published it to their cloud server. So, what seems ... likely to have happened here is that Maddow's staff could easily tell the "NSA document" was a forgery from the start and simply ignored it at first. After all, she received the document on June 7th and is just now deciding to talk about it a month later? Unlikely. But, when 3 journalists from CNN lost their jobs for publishing fake news, Maddow saw an opportunity to launch a whole new narrative attacking the Trump administration by alleging that they're planting fake intelligence reports with the media. Never let a good crisis go to waste...as they say. Edward Snowden summarized the situation the best in a series of tweets: Maddow's lawyerly defense of why her implication was wrong is disappointing. Such caution should come prior to raising alarm on national TV. When the media's credibility is under attack, rushing stories out before checking facts and contacting the subject is hard to comprehend. That said, journalism is hard and mistakes happen. When they do, as in this Maddow case, apologies should be frank and unequivocal. When we start getting economical with facts, we lose. This important story was mangled by needlessly injected an unsupportable conspiracy. Each time the media gets a prominent story wrong right now, I wince. More than egg on a famous face, it risks a generation's trust in news. If our most famous journalists are so proud they can't admit to what is now an obvious error, how can they hope to hold the public trust? Most folks can't read three different papers every day. If we don't set the highest standard, many give up and say the truth is unknowable. That is the twilight of an age. — Edward Snowden (@Snowden) July 7, 2017 Still, we do feel badly for the liberal 'journalists' of the world...all the embarrassing fake news stories of late means that they may have to actually start doing their jobs rather than just blindly running stories from 'anonymous sources.'
Saturday, July 8, 2017 12:22 AM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Let me know how that war's going. You're losing big time. Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: I wouldn't want to own shares in whatever company owns CNN right now. I don't think you understand how Corporate Media works. They'll do great as long as Trump is president - he's a nuclear tornado avalanche waiting to happen and people can't look away. Boring Hillary would have sunk them to having to double their Genie Mose segments and expand their "entertainment" features. Trump is tv gold. BTW - Turns out CNN producer never threatened "the kid" (who was an adult). More pro-Trump anti-FreePress bullshite. And now he's facing death threats: "Those tensions may have reached a fever pitch this week, as The Daily Beast reported that Kaczynski and his family are facing harassment and death threats, and CNN staffers have begun to fear for their safety." Take that for what it is, fake or real - all normal in the Land of Trump. ==============================
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: Let me know how that war's going.
Quote:Originally posted by 6stringJoker: I wouldn't want to own shares in whatever company owns CNN right now.
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