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Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

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Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:47 PM

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He did have to sign papers TWO and after Enron executives are now responsible for what they sign off on.

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Five hundred times Eric Trump took the 5th amendment. What Eric said was something like this: "On advice of my attorney I refuse to answer that question because I and my Daddy might go to jail for life."

That was back in October 2020. Then the prosecution shrugged as if Eric is innocent because he refuses to confess. It is now 16 months later. What the hell is wrong with these prosecutors? They need to try much harder than usual because Trump has the money to stall them for the next 20 years if the prosecution continues to be easily thwarted by the excruciatingly simple strategy Trump uses.

https://twitter.com/glennkirschner2/status/1483788985210126336

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Wednesday, January 19, 2022 2:08 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Any charges or indictments yet??

Wake me up when something real actually - yanno - happens.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:23 AM

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Any charges or indictments yet??

Wake me up when something real actually - yanno - happens.

About $1 trillion in taxes aren't paid each year by people who will never be indicted, 1kiki. If Trump is indicted for his cheating, it will only be because he is notorious, which forced prosecutors to do something, even though they will do nothing about the rest of the unpaid $1 trillion in taxes.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has alleged that her office has uncovered "significant" evidence "indicating that the Trump Organization used fraudulent or misleading asset valuations to obtain a host of economic benefits, including loans, insurance coverage, and tax deductions." Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen discusses Trump's business practices with CNN's Alisyn Camerota.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:35 AM

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Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen discusses Trump's business practices with CNN's Alisyn Camerota...

and nobody saw it because it was on CNN.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 11:46 AM

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Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen discusses Trump's business practices with CNN's Alisyn Camerota...

and nobody saw it because it was on CNN.

Nobody saw Trump's income tax returns, but he hasn't paid in 20 years. That might get him in trouble, but on the other hand, $1 trillion in taxes aren't paid each year and nobody sees those tax returns, either. Why single out Trump for punishment when so much more cheating goes unpunished? Let Trump go free! He could sell that slogan on T-shirts or baseball caps made in China (with fake tags "Made in USA") and not pay his income taxes on those sales, too!

IRS chief says $1 trillion in taxes goes uncollected every year
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-treasury-irs/irs-chief-says-1-t
rillion-in-taxes-goes-uncollected-every-year-idUSKBN2C0255

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 1:19 PM

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He did have to sign papers TWO and after Enron executives are now responsible for what they sign off on.

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Five hundred times Eric Trump took the 5th amendment. What Eric said was something like this: "On advice of my attorney I refuse to answer that question because I and my Daddy might go to jail for life."

That was back in October 2020. Then the prosecution shrugged as if Eric is innocent because he refuses to confess. It is now 16 months later. What the hell is wrong with these prosecutors? They need to try much harder than usual because Trump has the money to stall them for the next 20 years if the prosecution continues to be easily thwarted by the excruciatingly simple strategy Trump uses.

Georgia DA investigating possible Trump interference in 2020 asks for special grand jury

ATLANTA (AP) — The Georgia prosecutor investigating possible attempts to interfere in the 2020 general election by former President Donald Trump and others has asked for a special grand jury to aid the investigation.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis on Thursday sent a letter to Fulton County Superior Court Chief Judge Christopher Brasher asking him to impanel a special grand jury. She wrote in the letter that her office “has received information indicating a reasonable probability that the State of Georgia’s administration of elections in 2020, including the State’s election of the President of the United States, was subject to possible criminal disruptions.”

Willis’ office has tried to interview multiple witnesses and gather evidence, and some witnesses and prospective witnesses have refused to cooperate without a subpoena, she wrote. A special grand jury would have the power to subpoena witnesses.

https://wgxa.tv/news/local/georgia-da-investigating-possible-trump-int
erference-in-2020-asks-for-special-grand-jury

Remember John Gotti? As you know all this shit takes time SECOND. Hence the clock, tick tock. A sign things are about to pop is when the people being investigated are subpoenaed. This is the case in NY. You and I both know the evidence is overwhelming Trump committed crime after crime after crime. He'll fall.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:41 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

Any charges or indictments yet??

Wake me up when something real actually - yanno - happens.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 4:38 PM

Trump will be fine.

He will be your President again in exactly 3 years too.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:38 PM

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The Trump International Scotland golf club, in the countryside outside Aberdeen, was valued at $435.56 million in financial documents submitted by Trump in 2014.

This represented an increase of more than double compared to its valuation the year before.

Officials said the higher figure appeared to be based on "assuming the right to build 2,500 luxury homes on the property — despite approval to build fewer than 1,500 holiday apartments and golf villas."

The legal documents said that in 2009, Scottish authorities gave provisional permission for 1,486 holiday homes and golf villas to be built, more than a thousand fewer than the 2,500 that seemed to contribute to the $435 million valuation.

"'Mr. Weisselberg testified that he could not explain this discrepancy," the documents said.

The statement said the evaluation also didn't take account of an indefinite postponement of residential developments on the property. This came amid an argument between Trump and Scottish authorities over plans to build a wind farm nearby.

James's office also said the properties in question were short-term rentals or golf villas, not residential homes, which it said would also affect their value.

Weisselberg was charged last year with offenses relating to an alleged tax-fraud scheme at the Trump Organization.

https://www.businessinsider.com/weisselberg-not-explain-gap-400m-golf-
course-valution-ny-ag-2022-1

In America, Trump claimed his Scottish golf club is worth $435.56 million. What is it truly worth in Scotland? $43,613,621 or £32,071,221. Trump multiplied the actual value by ten to arrive at the fake value, which he uses to get a $435.56 million loan in America, with the Scottish golf club as his loan collateral. If Trump fails to make his monthly payments on the loan, and the bank sues to take over Trump's collateral, the bank will suddenly discover Trump defrauded the bank, but the fraud actually occurred years earlier when Trump attached a price of $435.56 million to a $43,613,621 property.

For 31 December 2019 the accounts reveal an overall asset value of £32,071,221. During the year there had been an operating loss of £896,367 and loss before tax of £1,105,763. This loss represented a further decline on the previous year (2018).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_International_Golf_Links,_Scotland

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 6:22 PM

Nobody cares.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 6:55 PM

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Nobody cares.

If Trump were innocent, he'd be begging his officials to testify on his behalf instead of forbidding it. He'd be sending Congress thousands of documents to prove his innocence.
BUT HE ISN’T.
BECAUSE HE’S GUILTY.

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Thursday, January 20, 2022 7:08 PM

He's just trolling you and wasting the Legacy Media's time.

He enjoys when dipshits like you obsess over him.

Trump will be fine.

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Friday, January 21, 2022 1:14 PM

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Nobody cares.
If Trump were innocent, he'd be begging his officials to testify on his behalf instead of forbidding it. He'd be sending Congress thousands of documents to prove his innocence.
BUT HE ISN’T.
BECAUSE HE’S GUILTY.

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Why Trump Is Headed for the Ditch Once Again

Over the past week, a series of things have transpired that make Trump’s indestructability seem less axiomatic, his dominance over the GOP and his renomination for president less of a sure thing. The difference this time is that Trump’s error is not something he has done — and can talk his way out of — but something that is being done to him. Trump has allowed a serious challenger and former disciple inside the party to gain unchecked influence. His social media sparkle, snuffed by Big Tech, has not been rekindled yet by his own social media startup (Truth Social) nor has it glowed in the B- and C-list social outfits like Parler, Gab, Rumble or Gettr. And no less a hard-right personage as former Trump acolyte Ann Coulter has judged him as finished and brought evidence to defend her thesis.

Trump has never been weaker or more vulnerable to replacement than today. He might Houdini his way out of trouble once more. You can never count him out. But there has never been a better moment for the mice to bell the Trump cat than there is today.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-why-trump-is-headed-fo
r-the-ditch-once-again/ar-AASZgDF?ocid=msedgntp

It is coming second, it is coming.

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Friday, January 21, 2022 1:33 PM

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It is coming second, it is coming.

It's so nice we'll be able to celebrate this thread's 3rd birthday before the Democrats get destroyed in November.

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Friday, January 21, 2022 3:50 PM

Revelations in New York court underscore Trump's legal peril on multiple fronts

In a push to compel the testimony of former President Donald Trump and two of his children, New York Attorney General Letitia James disclosed a potential game changer late Tuesday in a widening civil investigation of the Trump family business.

State investigators, the attorney general asserted, have "collected significant additional evidence indicating that the Trump Organization used fraudulent or misleading asset valuations to obtain a host of economic benefits, including loans, insurance coverage, and tax deductions."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/revelations-in-new-york-court-
underscore-trump-s-legal-peril-on-multiple-fronts/ar-AASXZwE?ocid=msedgntp

Yep...

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Saturday, January 22, 2022 8:58 AM

Trump better hope he dies before he realizes he is going to lose everything and even go to jail, along with his sons and daugther.

tick tock

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‘House of Trump is crumbling’: why ex-president’s legal net is tightening

Ed Pilkington in New York - 6h ago

When Donald Trump announced plans in 2006 to build a golf complex on ancient sand dunes on the Aberdeenshire coast in Scotland he told reporters it was love at first sight. “As soon as I saw it there was no question about it,” he said. It would be the world’s “greatest golf course”.

This week Trump International Scotland became a central element of a case that looks poised to dominate his post-presidential life, and could even put him behind bars.

Local fishermen denounced Trump as a “loudmouth bully” during construction of the course. Environmentalists warned the development would destroy the natural habitat, and sure enough it did inflict such damage that the site was stripped of its protected status.

But none of this deflected Trump from his goal. Today, the Scottish complex stands as a “premier luxury golf” experience replete with five-star hotel and helicopter landing pad, at a bargain membership of £2,595 ($3,518) a year.

Fifteen years on, the property has done wonders for its owner. That is, if you measure success according to the idiosyncratic accounting style of Donald Trump.

He bought the 2,000 acres (809 hectares) site at Menie in 2006 for $12.6m. Within five short years it was valued by the Trump Organization in its financial statements at $161m, an increase of almost 13 times.

By 2014, the windswept Scottish holding was put at $436m.

The hike caught the attention of Letitia James, New York state’s progressive attorney general known for her relentless pursuit of the rich and powerful. How the Scottish property came to rise meteorically in value is one of the matters she is exploring in her continuing investigation into Trump Organization finances.

In a new filing released this week designed to pressure Trump and two of his children – Ivanka and Donald Jr – into facing questioning, James forensically dissects how such strikingly large valuations came about. The 2011 estimate for the Scottish property, her investigators discovered, included an estimated £75,000 ($120,000 at 2011 exchange rates) for undeveloped land at the site.

Investigating deeper, they found that the figure had been created for an article in Forbes magazine. The revelation prompted a line in this week’s filing that must be among the tartest in US financial history.

“It thus appears,” James writes, “that the valuation of Trump Aberdeen used for Mr Trump’s financial statement was prepared for purposes of providing information to Forbes magazine in a quote.”

James’s legal document is packed with similarly juicy tidbits. The 2014 value of the Scottish golf club was based in part on the projected sale price of 2,500 houses on the land, even though none of the houses actually existed and the company had planning permission for only half that number.

In 1995 the Trump Organization bought a parcel of land in Westchester, New York, known as the Seven Springs Estate, for $7.5m. By 2004 it was valued at $80m and by 2014 at $291m. That 2014 figure, James notes in another exquisitely tart reference, included a valuation of $161m for “seven non-existent mansions”.

The juiciest tidbit of all concerns Trump’s former home, the gilded Fifth Avenue temple to his own ego dubbed “Versailles in the sky”, in which he lived before moving into the White House. James’s investigators were puzzled to find the Trump Tower triplex in Manhattan was listed at $327m in 2015, based on the apartment’s size, allegedly 30,000 sq feet.

In fact the property is 11,000 sq feet, which produces a value of $117m. That’s an overstatement in Trump’s official financial statements of more than $200m.

Letitia James: ‘We have uncovered significant evidence that suggests Donald J Trump and the Trump Organization falsely and fraudulently valued multiple assets and misrepresented those values to financial institutions for economic benefit.’

In a new filing released this week designed to pressure Trump and two of his children – Ivanka and Donald Jr – into facing questioning, James forensically dissects how such strikingly large valuations came about. The 2011 estimate for the Scottish property, her investigators discovered, included an estimated £75,000 ($120,000 at 2011 exchange rates) for undeveloped land at the site.

Investigating deeper, they found that the figure had been created for an article in Forbes magazine. The revelation prompted a line in this week’s filing that must be among the tartest in US financial history.

“It thus appears,” James writes, “that the valuation of Trump Aberdeen used for Mr Trump’s financial statement was prepared for purposes of providing information to Forbes magazine in a quote.”

James’s legal document is packed with similarly juicy tidbits. The 2014 value of the Scottish golf club was based in part on the projected sale price of 2,500 houses on the land, even though none of the houses actually existed and the company had planning permission for only half that number.

New York Attorney General Letitia James filed court papers on Tuesday night accusing former Donald Trump’s business of misrepresenting the value of many assets, including his apartment in Trump Tower.

Such startling disparities matter, James insists in her 114-page filing. The financial statements that contained them were used to secure loans from banks as well as insurance, and in other instances to reduce Trump’s tax burden.

“We have uncovered significant evidence that suggests Donald J Trump and the Trump Organization falsely and fraudulently valued multiple assets and misrepresented those values to financial institutions for economic benefit,” James said after the filing was lodged in a New York court.

The new material disclosed by James was so compelling that some close observers of Trumpland are now convinced that he is in serious legal trouble. Michael Cohen, Trump’s former personal attorney and an ex-vice president of the Trump Organization, told the Guardian: “The House of Trump is crumbling.”

Cohen, who was released in November from house arrest having had his own legal difficulties, has skin in this game. It was his testimony to the House oversight committee in February 2019 that sounded the alarm over allegedly inflated evaluations in Trump’s financial statements, which in turn prompted James to open her investigation the following month.

“My testimony before the committee as well as my subsequent cooperation with the New York attorney general has led to this day,” Cohen said. “We are seeing individuals who have continuously escaped responsibility for their actions finally being held accountable.”

James is pursuing her investigation as a civil case, which means that were Trump to be found liable it could cost him heavily in fines and penalties. More seriously, James is working in coordination with the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin Bragg, a similarly tenacious and relentless prosecutor equipped with a large and highly experienced team of investigators.

Bragg is asking exactly the same questions as James: did the Trump Organization commit accounting, bank, tax or insurance fraud? The critical difference is that Bragg’s investigation is criminal, threatening Trump not with fines but prison time.

“Trump could end up in an orange jumpsuit at the end of that one,” said Timothy O’Brien, a senior columnist for Bloomberg Opinion.

O’Brien also has a personal stake in this story. His book TrumpNation, a 2005 biography that raised doubts about Trump’s actual wealth in eerily similar terms to the James and Bragg investigations today, so irked the real estate developer that he sued O’Brien for billions of dollars.

O’Brien’s lawyers deposed Trump as part of his defense. Over two days they managed to do something that has rarely been done before or since – they got the celebrity to acknowledge, no fewer than 30 times, that he had lied.

“My lawyers were so well prepared that when he sat down for the deposition we had documentary evidence at hand that showed the reality of what he had lied about or exaggerated. We simply pushed those over the table at him,” O’Brien recalled.

Many of the misleading elements – the value of his golf clubs, real estate assets in New York – were virtually identical to the details contained in this week’s filing. Which is why O’Brien feels confident in saying that the patterns that James outlines in her court document extend far back.

“This is behaviour that Trump has been engaging with since he was a toddler, frankly,” O’Brien said.

The libel suit was dismissed in 2009. The author was surprised that despite the mass of detail he had exposed in TrumpNation of potential malfeasance, no prosecutor showed interest.

“There was ample fodder in my book for prosecutors to pursue, but nobody picked it up. Law enforcement simply didn’t take Donald Trump seriously until it was too late.”

Times have changed. Trump is no longer a real estate magnate-turned-reality TV star, he is a former US president. The stakes have increased significantly and with them the scrutiny.

Never before has Trump been confronted by two coordinated teams of sophisticated investigators raking through his financial affairs, with both civil and criminal charges possibly pending.

Just how serious the prosecutors are about nailing their man is revealed in a single sentence of James’s new filing. She writes that the investigative team is determined to find out “Mr Trump’s actual knowledge of – and intention to make – the numerous misstatements and omissions made by him or on his behalf.”

“Intention to make” indicates that James is not only thinking along civil lines. She is also anticipating possible criminal charges in which proof of the intent of the accused is required.

Trump continues to resist giving testimony, as do his two children, on grounds that the investigations are politically motivated witch hunts (both James and Bragg are Democrats). A third child, Eric, who runs the day-to-day work of the Trump Organization, was deposed but pleaded the fifth more than 500 times.

The family’s best hope is that the prosecutors will struggle to meet the high bar that is set for criminal cases. That is especially so when it comes to the critical issue of intent, said Robert Mintz, a former federal prosecutor.

“The criminal case is more dangerous since it involves potential incarceration. But it requires criminal intent and that is difficult to prove, particularly in complex financial frauds involving organizations,” Mintz, now a partner at McCarter & English, LLP told the Guardian.

Prosecutors will have to prove that Trump knowingly and willfully violated the law. That can be tough – showing discrepancies in financial statements, juicy though they may be, is not enough.

“Large investigations take time and are exceedingly difficult to prove without the help of cooperating witnesses and documentation,” Mintz said. “These parallel investigations are clearly moving ahead, but how they will end is difficult to predict.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-of-trump-is-crumbling-wh
y-ex-president-s-legal-net-is-tightening/ar-AAT1NnC?ocid=msedgntp

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Saturday, January 22, 2022 10:22 AM

Trump will be fine.

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Monday, January 24, 2022 9:30 AM

Editorial: Trump’s comeuppance is coming

One of the best presidents, Teddy Roosevelt, was the only native of New York City to become president until the worst, Donald Trump, won the high office. Now, the state of New York is helping to bring down this miserable, insipid, democracy-threatening horror of a man who we inflicted on the nation and the world. In devastating legal papers filed last week, New York Attorney General Leticia James reveals that the cheating con man we’ve known all these long decades cheated and conned in illegally misrepresenting the finances of his real estate firm. Whouda thunk?

James presented these findings in Manhattan state Supreme Court to seek to compel Trump and children Don Jr. and Ivanka to submit to sworn testimony in the matter. Justice Arthur Engoron has plenty of evidence to support making the Trumps answer questions. Excellent going by James.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/editorial-trump-s-comeuppance-
is-coming/ar-AAT5aYh?ocid=msedgntp

tick tock

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Monday, January 24, 2022 10:59 AM

Trump will be fine.

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Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:51 PM

Federal judge allows state investigations of WinRed's fundraising tactics to proceed

A federal judge on Wednesday dismissed a lawsuit brought by WinRed that had attempted to block attorneys general in four states from investigating its fundraising practices.

WinRed, which processes political donations for Republican candidates, faced inquiries by the attorneys general of New York, Connecticut, Maryland and Minnesota over the use of pre-checked donation boxes to lock in contributions to candidates and committees on a monthly or weekly schedule, court filings show.

The inquiries followed a New York Times investigation last year into the tactics of former President Donald Trump's political operation that included using pre-checked boxes to automatically enroll contributors in recurring donation programs.
Four states investigate the online fundraising tactics of both political parties
Four states investigate the online fundraising tactics of both political parties

WinRed had sued in Minnesota to stop the probes, arguing that its activities are governed by federal campaign finance law, not any state consumer protection laws the attorneys general sought to enforce.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/26/politics/winred-political-fundraising-i
nvestigation/index.html

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Thursday, January 27, 2022 3:55 PM

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Trump Lawyers Need Lawyers: 45 Aide Admits To Fake Electors Plot, Giuliani Led It

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Tuesday, February 8, 2022 8:35 AM

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Trump will be fine.

Trump threatens violence against anyone who investigates him.

The Fulton County, Georgia, district attorney is asking for the FBI's help in providing security for buildings and staff one day after former President Donald Trump called prosecutors investigating him "racists" and said his supporters should hold "the biggest protests we have ever had" in cities like Atlanta if the prosecutors "do anything wrong or illegal."

DA Fani Willis and her office are investigating Trump for his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia. A special grand jury will be seated as part of that investigation on May 2.

At a rally in Conroe, Texas, Saturday night, Trump, without naming them, railed against Willis plus New York Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg Jr., who are investigating his business empire, calling them "racists." The three are Black. Trump provided no evidence of racial discrimination.

"These prosecutors are vicious, horrible people. They're racists and they're very sick -- they're mentally sick," he said. "They're going after me without any protection of my rights from the Supreme Court or most other courts. In reality, they're not after me, they're after you."

In a letter to J.C. Hacker, FBI special agent in charge of the Atlanta field office, Willis asked for a risk assessment of buildings surrounding her office and the courthouse where the grand jury will sit. She also asked for FBI agents to provide security, saying "security concerns were escalated this weekend" by Trump's rhetoric. Willis said her office had already received communications from people unhappy with the investigation.

Willis, a Democrat, compared potential violence associated with her investigation to the January 6, 2021 attack on the US Capitol. Trump said Saturday night that he would consider pardoning those who were charged in connection with the deadly attack if he wins the White House again. Several high-profile Republicans, including New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, quickly dismissed Trump's suggestion.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/30/politics/fulton-county-da-fbi-letter/in
dex.html

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Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:39 AM

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Trump threatens violence against anyone who investigates him.

No he didn't.

Trump will be fine.

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Friday, February 11, 2022 5:29 PM

When the topic of the day was Hilliary's emails some of us here said those making a fuss wouldn't care push comes to shove if it was anyone else. We were right. Not only do they not care about any of Trumps' discretions, but they also don't care about anything but hate.

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Friday, February 11, 2022 5:42 PM

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Friday, February 11, 2022 5:56 PM

Oh? You don't like the precedent, Ted?

You shouldn't have set it.

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Saturday, February 12, 2022 1:40 PM

Follow the Sharpie: Prosecutors probing Donald Trump are sitting on 'tons' of documents bearing his handwriting, sources tell Insider

Manhattan prosecutors have assembled a large cache of potentially damaging financial documents bearing Donald Trump's tell-tale Sharpie marks, sources tell Insider.
Experts say handwriting on hard copy documents will be crucial to proving knowledge and intent.
A court battle looms next week over still more personal documents Trump has refused to turn over.

Nearly three years into their investigation into Donald Trump and his company, Manhattan prosecutors have assembled a trove of potentially incriminating financial documents bearing the former president's handwritten signature, initials or other writing, Insider has learned.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/follow-the-sharpie-prosecutors
-probing-donald-trump-are-sitting-on-tons-of-documents-bearing-his-handwriting-sources-tell-insider/ar-AATKyCU?ocid=msedgntp

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Monday, February 14, 2022 4:32 PM

Accounting Firm Drops Trump Organization Over Dubious Financial Docs

The Trump Organization’s trusted outside accounting firm has taken the unprecedented step of ditching its client, explaining that the former president’s family company has a decade of financial statements that can’t be trusted.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/accounting-firm-drops-trump-or
ganization-over-dubious-financial-docs/ar-AATQBfE

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Tuesday, February 15, 2022 9:53 AM

Can you say, bye bye money.

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Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:40 AM

lol

The irony of CNN worrying about anybody else going bankrupt.

What kind of ads are they showing on CNN now? RAID Shadow Legends and VPNs?

I don't see why they'd even be able to get ads from those horrible companies since any youtuber shilling them gets far more views than CNN does in 2022.

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Friday, February 18, 2022 9:46 AM

Why Judge Arthur Engoron Ordered Donald Trump, Ivanka and Don Jr. To Testify

New York judge Arthur Engoron has ordered Donald Trump and his two children, Ivanka and Donald Trump Jr, to testify under oath about their family company's finances in a lengthy ruling to justify the decision.

In his decision, Engoron said that James has a "clear right" to investigate the Trump Organization while dismissing a number of arguments given by Donald Trump and his legal team for why the inquiry should be scrapped.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-judge-arthur-engoron-order
ed-donald-trump-ivanka-and-don-jr-to-testify/ar-AAU1PUG?ocid=msedgntp

The Trumps are running out of rope. There are a hundred things crashing in on them.

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Friday, February 18, 2022 11:59 AM

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Judge rules Trump and 2 of his children must testify in NY AG probe

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Friday, February 18, 2022 12:20 PM

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The Trumps are running out of rope. There are a hundred things crashing in on them.

Where have I heard that before?

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Saturday, February 19, 2022 5:52 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Trump’s dilemma on pleading the Fifth

In a criminal trial, Trump doesn't have to answer a question if he doesn't want to. And lawyers are not allowed to impute criminality. But in a civil trial, if Trump pulls that same stunt the judge and prosecution can tell the jury to infer guilt.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-dilemma-on-pleading-th
e-fifth/ar-AAU2mIb?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531

In both a criminal and civil trial, Trump's lawyers will be objecting to questions. In a criminal trial, the judge will say "objection sustained" and ask the prosecution to stop asking Mr. Trump these questions. On TV shows it is called "Badgering The Witness". But in a civil trial, the judge will say "objection overruled" and tell the prosecution to keep going, ask nastier questions, I want to know just what Trump thinks he can get away with in front of a jury and how many times he takes the 5th Amendment.

I want to see Trump sweat as he is asked a thousand times why he kept his income tax returns a secret, especially after saying a thousand times he would make them public.

When Trump takes the 5th Amendment a thousand times, the prosecution can tell the jury that Trump did that because he knew he cheated on his taxes and the so-called "errors" in Trump's tax returns are all deliberate. Since it is only a civil trial to decide how much Trump will pay in fines, the prosecution can make it clear to the jury that Trump knew, absolutely KNEW, he cheated.

There will be no pretending Trump knew nothing about all those "innocent errors" lowering Trump's taxes.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 19, 2022 8:05 AM

Trump will be fine.

You guys do know that in the parallel universe in your head where Trump wasn't fine, you'd like the next guy or gal we vote in to replace Joe* even less than Trump...

Don'tcha?

Let's just say it ain't going to be Mitt Romney, Dick Cheney's daughter or John McCain's corpse.

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Saturday, February 19, 2022 1:16 PM

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'The Criminal Conspiracy That Is Donald Trump Is Being Exposed'

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Saturday, February 19, 2022 4:20 PM

All of this Trump talk is bullshit.

They're trying to take the heat off of Hillary.

It's not going to work.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 6:26 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Trump has again proven to be “Teflon Don”

On Wednesday, the New York Times reported that Carey R. Dunne and Mark F. Pomerantz, two prosecutors leading the Manhattan district attorney’s office’s criminal investigation of Donald Trump, had resigned, sounding the likely death-knell of that office’s multi-year investigation any New York prosecution of the former president for allegedly false financial statements.

The resignations were because newly elected DA Alvin Bragg had expressed doubts to them about proceeding with the case.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/02/tish-james-new-york-trump-
investigation.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 8:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump has again proven to be “Teflon Don”

On Wednesday, the New York Times reported that Carey R. Dunne and Mark F. Pomerantz, two prosecutors leading the Manhattan district attorney’s office’s criminal investigation of Donald Trump, had resigned, sounding the likely death-knell of that office’s multi-year investigation any New York prosecution of the former president for allegedly false financial statements.

The resignations were because newly elected DA Alvin Bragg had expressed doubts to them about proceeding with the case.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/02/tish-james-new-york-trump-
investigation.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Would you like me to say "Trump will be fine.

" again?

Tough shit if you wouldn't.

Trump will be fine.

I'm right again, huh? Imagine that.

I'd imagine it's got to start being pretty fucking terrifying for you to think that I could be right that he'll be your President again someday now.

Yanno... Seeing as how I'm so often right about things and I have a much better track record than the Legacy Media.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:47 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Would you like me to say "Trump will be fine. " again?

Tough shit if you wouldn't.

Trump will be fine.

I'm right again, huh? Imagine that.

I'd imagine it's got to start being pretty fucking terrifying for you to think that I could be right that he'll be your President again someday now.

Yanno... Seeing as how I'm so often right about things and I have a much better track record than the Legacy Media.

Saying Trump will be fine is exactly the same as saying Putin will be fine. Both these guys are doing fine, but they both are criminals. Time will tell whether they both have happy and long lives, without criminal indictments, much as did Joseph Stalin and Chairman Mao, neither of which were charged with crimes. Did you know that neither Robert E Lee nor Jefferson Davis were charged with treason? That is just a reminder that legal systems have never functioned well in America and have no real place in deciding whether powerful people are moral or evil.

The details of Jefferson Davis' legal travails are particularly enlightening about how completely a legal system can fail to punish a big time political criminal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis#Imprisonment

It actually took years for the American legal system to decide a simple question about the constitutionality of succession from the Union because the legal system is verbose and stupidly slow:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_v._White

Spoiler: succession was illegal and it took 4 years for the lawyers to make up their minds one way or the other and yet the decision still wasn't unanimous. In the case of Trump, it will require far more than 4 years because what he did is a little more subtle than a war and therefore lawyers will need to think about what Trump did for a very-very long time. You can't rush the Law.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 2:14 PM

You're such an clown.

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Saturday, February 26, 2022 5:11 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You're such an clown.

If you think the criminal court systems work, you should read this highly amusing story about how the courts really work. It would explain why Trump could literally get away with murder:

The Waco Texas Biker Shootout Left Nine Dead. Why Was No One Convicted?

How 177 arrests led to no convictions — a tangled, seven-year tale of prosecutorial hubris and tenacious defense.

Defense attorney Paul Looney speaks in a mellifluous Texas drawl, wears bolo ties and cowboy boots and pilots his own plane to court hearings outside Houston. “I’ve always been this close to being a criminal myself,” he told me. “I could have either become a Mafioso don or a criminal defense lawyer, but there was no place that I could apply my personality effectively except those two places.” Looney has appeared before courts in 41 states; he has done “a whole bunch of work” for drug cartels, he explained, and their people get arrested all over the country. Avery likes to make “Better Call Paul” jokes.

If you ask Looney about the Twin Peaks biker case, he’ll tell you there’s one person who knows more about it than anyone else alive: his trial-preparation specialist, Roxanne Avery. An entire wall of her home office in Norman, Okla., is covered with wallet-size mug shots of the nearly 200 bikers arrested, as well as photographs of the nine men who died that day, seven years ago, after a violent brawl in a Waco parking lot. Each picture is layered with Post-it Notes and details about the subjects: ages, road names (Cheech, Chain, Drama, Sidetrack, Saint, Mad Dog, Pee Paw, Bubba, Bubba Earl, Bashful, Yogi, Reno, Creeper, Grumpy Dan), club affiliations, ranks, descriptions of injuries (“Bullet entered neck, partially exited”; “Paralyzed from the waist down”; “DEAD”) and any other pertinent information (“I met him March 2018”; “9mm Glock”; “U.S. Army — 2 tours Iraq”; “Convicted felon”; “Shot dog?”; “Did not see anything”; “Graduate Baylor University w/ English degree”). Point to a random photograph, and Avery will generally be able to squint and tell you something about the biker in question.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220226030937/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/23/magazine/waco-biker-shootout.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, March 7, 2022 7:39 AM

As much as this guy wants to see what Ted wants to see, he says that Ted is delusional.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/democrats-are-still-delusional-
about-trump/ar-AAUC67U

All those tick tocks for nothing.

awwwwwwww :(

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Monday, March 7, 2022 1:07 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Almost 2 1/2 years later, and still...

Quote:
SECOND: If you think the criminal court systems work, you should read this highly amusing story about how the courts really work. It would explain why Trump could literally get away with murder:

The Waco Texas Biker Shootout Left Nine Dead. Why Was No One Convicted?

How 177 arrests led to no convictions — a tangled, seven-year tale of prosecutorial hubris and tenacious defense.

I think this is SECOND's admission that Trump isn't going to jail, ever.

Another one of THUGR's clocks, busted.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, March 7, 2022 1:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Almost 2 1/2 years later, and still...

Quote:
SECOND: If you think the criminal court systems work, you should read this highly amusing story about how the courts really work. It would explain why Trump could literally get away with murder:

The Waco Texas Biker Shootout Left Nine Dead. Why Was No One Convicted?

How 177 arrests led to no convictions — a tangled, seven-year tale of prosecutorial hubris and tenacious defense.
I think this is SECOND's admission that Trump isn't going to jail, ever.

Another one of THUGR's clocks, busted.

Since I’ve always called you an idiot signym it is not surprising you show no understanding of how America’s legal system works. Hint, because of all the rights an individual in my country has comrade, epically an X president, these things take time. You should check your instinct to troll at the door, it is very unbecoming.

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Monday, March 7, 2022 2:26 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I think this is SECOND's admission that Trump isn't going to jail, ever.

Here is the story from today:

Republicans warn Justice Department probe of Trump would trigger political war
03/07/22 06:00 AM EST

While the evidence against Trump appears to support a criminal prosecution, Garland may hesitate to pull the trigger because of the likely political backlash.

“I think they’re worried about the fact that we’re talking about prosecuting somebody who has millions and millions of devoted, passionate followers who would see this as a political prosecution and be very angry, possibly violent.”

Ford O’Connell, a Republican strategist, said a prosecution “will only make Trump stronger with the GOP primary voters.”

“If your goal is to make sure Donald Trump is the nominee in 2024 for the Republicans, then by all means proceed with this. You’re just going to make him stronger,” he said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/596955-republicans-warn-justice-de
partment-probe-of-trump-would-trigger-political

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Monday, March 7, 2022 3:09 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
SIGNYM:

I think this is SECOND's admission that Trump isn't going to jail, ever.

SECOND: Here is the story from today:

Republicans warn Justice Department probe of Trump would trigger political war
03/07/22 06:00 AM EST

In other words, Trump isn't going to jail ever, just like Hillary isn't going to jail, ever.

Thanks for corroborating my interpretation.

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Monday, March 7, 2022 4:39 PM

Not only isn't Trump going to jail, but the more the Biden* administration fucks everything up it's looking more and more likely that he will be your next President.

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Monday, March 7, 2022 6:11 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

In other words, Trump isn't going to jail ever, just like Hillary isn't going to jail, ever.

Thanks for corroborating my interpretation.

The Confederate leadership didn't go to jail because, you know, far too many people, numbering in the hundreds of thousands, wanted them to go free, but not nearly the tens of millions who want Trump to go free. Aaron Burr, the guy who killed Alexander Hamilton, didn't go to jail for treason when he plotted to split Louisiana Territory from the USA. President Jefferson wanted Burr hanged, but Chief Justice John Marshall didn't, and Burr had the lawyers, so Burr went free. The legal system has NEVER actually worked the way I was taught it is presumed to work in high school civics class. There is actually a book written about it called The Chickenshit Club: Why the Justice Department Fails to Prosecute Executives.

More about how cowardly and utterly politicized prosecutors can be when faced with wealthy, well-connected defendants at https://www.npr.org/2017/07/30/535799735/corporate-bungling-and-politi
cal-scandal-abound-in-jesse-eisinger-s-new-book

If you want, download the book for free at https://libgen.unblockit.day/search.php?req=Jesse+Eisinger

That link will take you to here: https://libgen.unblockit.day/libraryp2/main/3502CEA1AD349136E57DDB236B
DC1A79

Reading the book will give you a strong understanding of why rich people, influential people, if they pick the right lawyers, have always been able to escape Justice in the USA. There are just too many pressure points built into the system where a team of smart defense lawyers can press hard and cause the system to release their client.

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Monday, March 7, 2022 7:19 PM

Nobody gives a shit about your books. Free isn't cheap enough. You'd have to pay me to read the shit you fill your mind with.

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