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Friday, January 12, 2024 2:07 PM
THG
Friday, January 12, 2024 2:16 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Friday, January 12, 2024 5:58 PM
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Saturday, January 13, 2024 2:59 AM
SIGNYM
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Quote: The first communiqué (February 28, 1972), known as the Shanghai Communiqué, summarizes the landmark dialogue begun by President Richard Nixon and Premier Zhou Enlai during February 1972. Some of the issues addressed in this communiqué include the two sides' views on Vietnam, the Korean Peninsula, India and Pakistan and the Kashmir region, and perhaps most importantly, the Taiwan (Republic of China) issue (i.e., Taiwan's political status). Essentially, both sides agreed to respect each other's national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States formally acknowledged that "all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China" and that the "United States Government does not challenge that position", and that it "reaffirms its interest in a peaceful settlement of the Taiwan question by the Chinese themselves".[2] The second communiqué (January 1, 1979), the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, formally announces the commencement of normal relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. In so doing, the United States recognized that the government of the People's Republic of China was the sole legal government of China, and acknowledged the PRC's position that Taiwan is part of China.[3] In addition, the United States government declared that it would end formal political relations with the Republic of China ("Taiwan") while preserving economic and cultural ties. Both sides reaffirmed their wish to reduce the risk of international conflict as well as avoidance of hegemony of any nation in the Asia-Pacific region. The third communiqué (August 17, 1982), also known as the August 17th communiqué,[4] reaffirms the desire of both sides to further strengthen economic, cultural, educational, scientific, and technological ties. Both sides also reaffirmed the statements made about the Taiwan issue in the previous communiqué. Although no definitive conclusions were reached on the issue of arms sale to Taiwan, the United States declared its intent to continue selling arms to Taiwan and to gradually change its level of arms sales consistent with the PRC's militarization of the Taiwan strait.
Quote: “* * * [W]e did not agree to set a date certain for ending arms sales to Taiwan”; “* * * [W]e see no mediation role for the United States” between Taiwan and the PRC; “* * *[N]or will we attempt to exert pressure on Taiwan to enter into negotiations with the PRC”; “* * * [T]here has been no change in our longstanding position on the issue of sovereignty over Taiwan”; “We have no plans to seek” revisions to the Taiwan Relations Act; and The August 17 Communiqué “should not be read to imply that we have agreed to engage in prior consultations with Beijing on arms sales to Taiwan”.
Saturday, January 13, 2024 6:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: China Has Years Left, Says Peter Zaihan
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Shut up, Ted. You don't have close the the necessary IQ necessary to talk about 90% of the things you talk about here.
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Belarus doesn't have any Nukes. Nor, are they getting any.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Our dependent relationship with China all began with Bill Clinton
Sunday, January 14, 2024 6:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Agreements between China and the USA Quote: The first communiqué (February 28, 1972), known as the Shanghai Communiqué, summarizes the landmark dialogue begun by President Richard Nixon and Premier Zhou Enlai during February 1972. Some of the issues addressed in this communiqué include the two sides' views on Vietnam, the Korean Peninsula, India and Pakistan and the Kashmir region, and perhaps most importantly, the Taiwan (Republic of China) issue (i.e., Taiwan's political status). Essentially, both sides agreed to respect each other's national sovereignty and territorial integrity. The United States formally acknowledged that "all Chinese on either side of the Taiwan Strait maintain there is but one China and that Taiwan is a part of China" and that the "United States Government does not challenge that position", and that it "reaffirms its interest in a peaceful settlement of the Taiwan question by the Chinese themselves".[2] The second communiqué (January 1, 1979), the Joint Communiqué on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations, formally announces the commencement of normal relations between the United States and the People's Republic of China. In so doing, the United States recognized that the government of the People's Republic of China was the sole legal government of China, and acknowledged the PRC's position that Taiwan is part of China.[3] In addition, the United States government declared that it would end formal political relations with the Republic of China ("Taiwan") while preserving economic and cultural ties. Both sides reaffirmed their wish to reduce the risk of international conflict as well as avoidance of hegemony of any nation in the Asia-Pacific region. The third communiqué (August 17, 1982), also known as the August 17th communiqué,[4] reaffirms the desire of both sides to further strengthen economic, cultural, educational, scientific, and technological ties. Both sides also reaffirmed the statements made about the Taiwan issue in the previous communiqué. Although no definitive conclusions were reached on the issue of arms sale to Taiwan, the United States declared its intent to continue selling arms to Taiwan and to gradually change its level of arms sales consistent with the PRC's militarization of the Taiwan strait. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Communiqu%C3%A9s SIX ASSURANCES (To Taiwan) Quote: “* * * [W]e did not agree to set a date certain for ending arms sales to Taiwan”; “* * * [W]e see no mediation role for the United States” between Taiwan and the PRC; “* * *[N]or will we attempt to exert pressure on Taiwan to enter into negotiations with the PRC”; “* * * [T]here has been no change in our longstanding position on the issue of sovereignty over Taiwan”; “We have no plans to seek” revisions to the Taiwan Relations Act; and The August 17 Communiqué “should not be read to imply that we have agreed to engage in prior consultations with Beijing on arms sales to Taiwan”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Assurances ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
Sunday, January 14, 2024 6:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: HONG KONG—China is sinking deeper into its worst deflation in years, spelling trouble for the whole world as demand falters in its second-largest economy. With many Chinese worried about the economic outlook and unwilling to spend, consumer prices fell for a third straight month in December, official data showed Friday. Prices charged by manufacturers dropped for the 15th month in a row. Economists at Morgan Stanley described the situation as the “longest and deepest” deflation in China since the Asian financial crisis in 1998, when countries across the region overheated and entered recessions that took years to recover from. Until recently, many Western economists had welcomed some deflation in China, because it lowered the cost of imported Chinese goods, helping to ease inflationary pressures elsewhere. Inflation in the U.S. cooled through most of 2023, though it edged up some in December. But as inflation worries have eased in the West, China’s deflation has become a bigger source of concern. It signals continuing economic distress in China, which could mean weaker sales for Western brands that do business there. It also augurs more efforts by Chinese companies to unload excess goods elsewhere, competing with Western companies and exacerbating trade tensions, which are already high. The European Union last fall accused China of flooding the market with cheap electric vehicles and launched an investigation into the role of state subsidies from China. Companies in other industries, including solar power, have raised similar concerns. “Persistent deflation or very low inflation in China could contribute to a higher trade surplus and more trade frictions with the rest of the world,” said Adam Wolfe, emerging-markets economist at Absolute Strategy Research. All of that is adding urgency for Beijing to increase efforts to reverse falling prices and revive growth. One worry is that without more forceful stimulus, China’s economy could fall into a debt-deflation spiral like Japan did in the 1990s, when falling prices prompted companies to cut wages and consumers to hold off on purchases, creating a vicious cycle of even weaker demand and more deflation. “The size and speed of stimulus policy matters” in China, said Robin Xing, chief https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/deflation-worries-deepen-in-china/ar-AA1mQlj0?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8276c3772eef46a7c1309e3a68b1ba8d&ei=22
Monday, January 15, 2024 10:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Agreements between China and the USA SIGNYM
Tuesday, January 16, 2024 7:42 PM
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Friday, January 19, 2024 5:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Peter Zeihan is literally a stupid meme these days THG you seem to think constantly posting old vids from this perverted moron makes you more 'intelligent' or something? Texas videos of the homosexual pervert Zeihan
Friday, January 19, 2024 9:02 PM
Quote:Japan’s Population Crisis Nears Point of No Return
Quote: South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, government says South Korea, the country with the world’s lowest birth rate...,
Quote: 10 Countries with the Lowest Birth Rate (per 1000 people, CIA World Factbook 2021 estimate) Saint Pierre and Miquelon 6.54 Monaco 6.61 Andorra 6.87 Japan 6.9 South Korea 6.95 Italy 7 Spain 7.12 Taiwan 7.33 Greece 7.52 Puerto Rico 7.84
Sunday, January 21, 2024 8:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yep, China's population is declining. So is Japan's Quote:Japan’s Population Crisis Nears Point of No Return https://thediplomat.com/2023/01/japans-population-crisis-nears-point-of-no-return/ So is South Korea's Quote: South Korea to see population plummet to 1970s levels, government says South Korea, the country with the world’s lowest birth rate..., https://edition.cnn.com/2023/12/15/asia/south-korea-to-see-population-plummet-intl-hnk/index.html There must be something about dense urbanization or lack of economic opportunity.... Quote: 10 Countries with the Lowest Birth Rate (per 1000 people, CIA World Factbook 2021 estimate) Saint Pierre and Miquelon 6.54 Monaco 6.61 Andorra 6.87 Japan 6.9 South Korea 6.95 Italy 7 Spain 7.12 Taiwan 7.33 Greece 7.52 Puerto Rico 7.84 https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/birth-rate-by-country China's birth rate is 9.7. According to some UN Commission, it's 7.5. I don't know why the huge discrepancy, it's not that large for most other nations. It must be difficult to get solid data from China. SIGNYM
Monday, January 22, 2024 10:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why did Bill Clinton push for NAFTA? And this was in an era when there was a vigorous anti-NAFTA campaign by H Ross Perot. Perot left us with the phrase "giant sucking sound", which described exactly what happened to jobs in the USA (700,000 jobs lost, due to NAFTA). Later, Clinton would say that NAFTA was the greatest mistake I've ever made. Democrats are no better than Republicans when it comes to protecting our manufacturing capacity. They'll sell us down the river just as fast as the GOP. The "regrets" that come afterwards don't stop them from doing the same thing, or worse, even faster and harder in the future. Obama not only wants the TPP, he want to abrogate Congress' negotiating authority by trying for a "fast track" around Congress. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57406 Monday, August 26, 2019 1:11 PM THG Anybody but me wish we could do the TPP treaty again. What a fuck up pulling out was. Once again Sig proves herself to be nothing more than a commie moron. T
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why did Bill Clinton push for NAFTA? And this was in an era when there was a vigorous anti-NAFTA campaign by H Ross Perot. Perot left us with the phrase "giant sucking sound", which described exactly what happened to jobs in the USA (700,000 jobs lost, due to NAFTA). Later, Clinton would say that NAFTA was the greatest mistake I've ever made. Democrats are no better than Republicans when it comes to protecting our manufacturing capacity. They'll sell us down the river just as fast as the GOP. The "regrets" that come afterwards don't stop them from doing the same thing, or worse, even faster and harder in the future. Obama not only wants the TPP, he want to abrogate Congress' negotiating authority by trying for a "fast track" around Congress.
Monday, January 22, 2024 10:13 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, January 22, 2024 10:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: No. Nobody is sad that TPP didn't happen Ted. You are a moron.
Monday, January 22, 2024 10:33 AM
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Monday, January 22, 2024 11:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 10:32 AM China Backs Russia After Putin Warns West They'll Regret Crossing 'Red Line' Amid growing tensions between the United States and Russia, China threw its support behind Russian President Vladimir Putin, calling the two nations "comprehensive strategic partners of coordination in the new era." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-backs-russia-after-putin-warns-west-they-ll-regret-crossing-red-line/ar-BB1g6Yq1?ocid=msedgntp
Monday, January 22, 2024 8:11 PM
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Tuesday, January 23, 2024 2:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: That's what happens when you outsource critical industries in the name of profit. tic tac
Tuesday, January 30, 2024 10:22 AM
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Friday, February 9, 2024 7:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: Peter Zeihan is literally a stupid meme these days THG you seem to think constantly posting old vids from this perverted moron makes you more 'intelligent' or something? can you use your own brain for once and write your own words instead of posting George Friedman CI-Gay Stratfor GoldmanSachs-Texas videos of the homosexual pervert Zeihan Quote:Originally posted by THG: China Has Years Left, Says Peter Zaihan yes the homosexual that hangs out with Friedman has been saying that since the 90s, maybe by the Year 3 Thousand 500 his prediction might finally come true Here's the weird thing, journalism is so bad these days that even a Boozed out Pothead stoner like Joe Rogan can do good journalist reports...that's how far we have all fallen.
Friday, February 9, 2024 10:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: (January 30th, 2024) What do you think is going to happen to us when China goes bankrupt, Ted? Since you've got nothing better to do today, why don't you go around your shitty little hovel of a studio apartment and do an inventory of how much of that shit you bought that you didn't need came from China.
Quote:Originally posted by THG: (Two hours later) China’s economy is about to implode. We will all feel the aftershocks https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/china-s-economy-is-about-to-implode-we-will-all-feel-the-aftershocks/ar-BB1huwkc?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=56787568e5dc4170b94358b4b593dea9&ei=57
Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:00 AM
Saturday, February 10, 2024 11:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: China's market crash could be the last straw for many foreign investors who leave permanently, think tank says China's crashing stock market could be the breaking point for foreign investors, Atlantic Council's Jeremy Mark said. The market will become more volatile as remaining investors focus on fast profits. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/china-s-market-crash-could-be-the-last-straw-for-many-foreign-investors-who-leave-permanently-think-tank-says/ar-BB1i3OY2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=381b4120c02b4f6eb44bbfbbd96b2daa&ei=70
Tuesday, February 13, 2024 4:49 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by THG: China's population set to PLUNGE in latest crisis for Beijing China could see its population plummet by the end of the century, according to the latest forecasts. The superpower currently holds theworld's second-largest population with over 1.4billion people. However, the forecast from the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences (SASS) has predicted China’s population will have dropped by 60 per cent by the end of the century. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-s-population-set-to-plunge-in-latest-crisis-for-beijing/ar-BB1ioD67?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2b9e71b1cbe94396a824cc411f39fcfe&ei=19
Sunday, February 18, 2024 7:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by THG: China's population set to PLUNGE in latest crisis for Beijing China could see its population plummet by the end of the century, according to the latest forecasts. The superpower currently holds theworld's second-largest population with over 1.4billion people. However, the forecast from the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences (SASS) has predicted China’s population will have dropped by 60 per cent by the end of the century. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-s-population-set-to-plunge-in-latest-crisis-for-beijing/ar-BB1ioD67?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2b9e71b1cbe94396a824cc411f39fcfe&ei=19 Which means what Jack? It spells disaster for countries when they run out of workers and why immigration is vital for a country's survival; dummy. T
Wednesday, February 21, 2024 7:20 PM
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Wednesday, February 21, 2024 8:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by THG: China's population set to PLUNGE in latest crisis for Beijing China could see its population plummet by the end of the century, according to the latest forecasts. The superpower currently holds theworld's second-largest population with over 1.4billion people. However, the forecast from the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences (SASS) has predicted China’s population will have dropped by 60 per cent by the end of the century. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-s-population-set-to-plunge-in-latest-crisis-for-beijing/ar-BB1ioD67?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=2b9e71b1cbe94396a824cc411f39fcfe&ei=19 Which means what Jack? It spells disaster for countries when they run out of workers and why immigration is vital for a country's survival; dummy. T
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Sunday, March 17, 2024 10:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Hey... At least we can agree that the Chinese government sucks. I wouldn't underestimate them though. They think in blocks of multiple centuries at a time unlike Americans who think in 4 year blocks. While it's true we might be witnessing hubris on display, I don't think they're making moves today that haven't been planned out a long time ago.
Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:33 PM
Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:51 PM
Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Hey... At least we can agree that the Chinese government sucks. I wouldn't underestimate them though. They think in blocks of multiple centuries at a time unlike Americans who think in 4 year blocks. While it's true we might be witnessing hubris on display, I don't think they're making moves today that haven't been planned out a long time ago. THUGR: I've been posting about their collapse for years.
Thursday, March 28, 2024 10:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Hey... At least we can agree that the Chinese government sucks. I wouldn't underestimate them though. They think in blocks of multiple centuries at a time unlike Americans who think in 4 year blocks. While it's true we might be witnessing hubris on display, I don't think they're making moves today that haven't been planned out a long time ago.
Sunday, April 7, 2024 7:03 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by THG: U.S. Reacts After China Renames Neighbor's Territory https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/u-s-reacts-after-china-renames-neighbor-s-territory/vi-BB1l89X2?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=02834fa0d8c343e780659c382523064a&ei=168
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