' Journalist ' RIck Sanchez says the news. by AURaptor

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

So did Sanchez allowing himself to be tasered lead to the recent rash of taser incidents?

Just wondering.

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Thursday, April 9, 2009 3:56 PM

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Poplawski's Internet activities reveal that he was a frequent visitor of extreme-right Web sites, such as Stormfront -- a neo-Nazi site...

Certainly THAT couldn't have had anything to do with it...

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Thursday, April 9, 2009 4:08 PM

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Sanchez editorializes while he's supposedly an 'unbiased' reporter.

He has zero evidence to support his claims and accusations. I believe these remarks are actionable, as in , he SHOULD face legal action by all manner of folks.

And folks say the MSM is 'down the middle' ?

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Thursday, April 9, 2009 6:30 PM

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Hello,

I never much cared for that reporter. I remember seeing him often as a teen and young adult when I lived in South Florida. He carries the same cache with me as Geraldo Rivera.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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Thursday, April 9, 2009 7:05 PM

Or Glenn Beck, another CNN alumnus...

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Friday, April 10, 2009 12:04 AM

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And folks say the MSM is 'down the middle' ?

No, it's pretty solidly right wing, in America at least.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 12:51 AM

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Or Glenn Beck, another CNN alumnus...

Glenn Beck isn't a reporter. THATS the point here.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 12:55 AM

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And folks say the MSM is 'down the middle' ?

No, it's pretty solidly right wing, in America at least.

Proof solid that you're nothing but a complete and total troll.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 1:00 AM

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Proof solid that you're nothing but a complete and total troll.

Yeah, because when someone said something I disagreed with, I immediately attacked them with a personal insult! Hold on, no wait, that was, that was you! How many threads of yours have ended up in troll country recently? None of mine have, just wondering how many yours have.

Proof solid that the American media is right leaning, and you're a foolish troll. As always AURaptor, thanks for proving me right!

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Friday, April 10, 2009 1:53 AM

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Originally posted by AUTroll:
Proof solid that you're nothing but a complete and total troll.

Yeah, because when someone said something I disagreed with, I immediately attacked them with a personal insult! Hold on, no wait, that was, that was you! How many threads of yours have ended up in troll country recently? None of mine have, just wondering how many yours have.

Proof solid that the American media is right leaning, and you're a foolish troll. As always AURaptor, thanks for proving me right!

All you're doing is taking what ever I say and taking the opposite view. The fact that an ANCHOR on CNN, goes off on an editorial tirade ( which reporters aren't suppose to do, because it discredits their objectivity in their work ) and goes on to make charges which aren't remotely supported by fact or evidence, and in fact are COUNTER to anything that's known about a story,. The fact that he goes on and names names, w/ out ANY scintilla of evidence, and accuses the Right of in any way being a root cause for why crazy folks have acted crazy.

You see, CNN is generally considered LEFT of center. ( Founded by commie admirer and solo nut case , Ted Turner ) An ANCHOR, who is suppose to report FACT, goes on air and accuses named individuals and FOX NEWS for things he himself has ZERO evidence for. Those folks he names are Right of centre.

Following along ?

So, I post that story here, and your reply is to point out that it's proof the media is 'RIGHT' of centre ? Thats the complete inverse of what the facts are, yet you , once again, are bent on playing the contrarian, for the sole purpose of being a troll. Because that's what trolls do. You ignore the point of an issue, and carry on with childish antics and petty insults. Like you always do.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 2:44 AM

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Hello fellas,

As a third party observer, I'd like to say that your exchanges are both routinely comical.

"I say Up"

"You say Down"

"I say its Great"

"You give a Frown"

"Up, Down, Great, Frown, let's call each other a troll!"

--Anthony

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Friday, April 10, 2009 3:15 AM

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All you're doing is taking what ever I say and taking the opposite view. The fact that an ANCHOR on CNN, goes off on an editorial tirade ( which reporters aren't suppose to do, because it discredits their objectivity in their work ) and goes on to make charges which aren't remotely supported by fact or evidence, and in fact are COUNTER to anything that's known about a story,. The fact that he goes on and names names, w/ out ANY scintilla of evidence, and accuses the Right of in any way being a root cause for why crazy folks have acted crazy.

You see, CNN is generally considered LEFT of center. ( Founded by commie admirer and solo nut case , Ted Turner ) An ANCHOR, who is suppose to report FACT, goes on air and accuses named individuals and FOX NEWS for things he himself has ZERO evidence for. Those folks he names are Right of centre.

Following along ?

So, I post that story here, and your reply is to point out that it's proof the media is 'RIGHT' of centre ? Thats the complete inverse of what the facts are, yet you , once again, are bent on playing the contrarian, for the sole purpose of being a troll. Because that's what trolls do. You ignore the point of an issue, and carry on with childish antics and petty insults. Like you always do.

Whatever helps you ignore reality best. How many threads of yours have ended up in troll country again? How many of mine? Exactly.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 3:20 AM

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How is stating facts = ignoring reality ?

I don't care how many threads you've jacked w/ your buddies, or petitioned to have moved, that doesn't in the least bit change the fact that you're a troll.

* And now we see you've included subject line changing to the mix. Bravo.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 3:21 AM

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All you're doing is taking what ever I say and taking the opposite view. The fact that an ANCHOR on CNN, goes off on an editorial tirade ( which reporters aren't suppose to do, because it discredits their objectivity in their work ) and goes on to make charges which aren't remotely supported by fact or evidence, and in fact are COUNTER to anything that's known about a story,. The fact that he goes on and names names, w/ out ANY scintilla of evidence, and accuses the Right of in any way being a root cause for why crazy folks have acted crazy.

You see, CNN is generally considered LEFT of center. ( Founded by commie admirer and solo nut case , Ted Turner ) An ANCHOR, who is suppose to report FACT, goes on air and accuses named individuals and FOX NEWS for things he himself has ZERO evidence for. Those folks he names are Right of centre.

Now wait a minute here. First, you say that Glenn Beck isn't a reporter. Now you say that Rick Sanchez is AN ANCHOR at CNN. You even used all-caps to highlight your point. Isn't Beck now an anchor at Fox? And doesn't he editorialize all the time?

I guess what I'm trying to wrap my head around is the part where the two are radically different, where what one talking head says is "actionable" and he should be sued over it, while what the other talking head says is just opinion, and means nothing because he's not a reporter but rather an entertainer.

I'm just curious as to exactly where you see the differences. OTHER than just in their political leanings, I mean. Similarly, you've defended O'Reilly more than once as being "an entertainer", while he himself claims that he's a "journalist". Seems you can't have it both ways.

Can an anchor be a reporter? Can an entertainer be a journalist? Are such people only allowed to "editorialize" and state outlandish opinions ONLY if those opinions are right-of-center?

I'm not trying to be a prick here; I'm really trying to find out what your standards are, where you draw the line.

Mike

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Friday, April 10, 2009 3:26 AM

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Glen Beck is an commentator, like Keith Olbermann, Bill O'Reily. Sanchez does a NEWS program, not an editorial show. Big difference.
He's worked as a reporter in the field, and is known as being a JOURNALIST.

Chris Wallace is a journalist. When he reads the news, he's not editorializing. There's no " having it both ways" in the least. You're just not familiar w/ the difference, it seems.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 3:31 AM

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How is stating facts = ignoring reality ?

Posting lies and calling them facts = ignoring reality = what you do.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I don't care how many threads you've jacked w/ your buddies, or petitioned to have moved, that doesn't in the least bit change the fact that you're a troll.

In other words, you've had your troll threads moved to troll country, proving you're a troll, and I haven't, rather indicating the opposite. You started insulting people for no reason other than you viciously can't except other people having a different opinion to you, and I only respond with insults to people who insult me. In other words your actions prove you're a troll, mine prove I'm not, and no matter how much you scream otherwise, you can't change those facts.

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* And now we see you've included subject line changing to the mix. Bravo.

I changed it back to original after someone had deleted it. I'm guessing you're attempting to claim I changed the title to some insult, but not only did I not do so, but I suspect you probably did it yourself in order to slur me. At any rate you were, and have always been the worst, and possibly only, person changing thread titles.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 4:27 AM

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Glen Beck is an commentator, like Keith Olbermann, Bill O'Reily. Sanchez does a NEWS program, not an editorial show. Big difference.
He's worked as a reporter in the field, and is known as being a JOURNALIST.

Chris Wallace is a journalist. When he reads the news, he's not editorializing. There's no " having it both ways" in the least. You're just not familiar w/ the difference, it seems.

So Beck doesn't do a news program? Do O'Reilly and Olbermann not cover news stories?

Have none of them ever worked as reporters in the field?

Also, has Chris Wallace never voiced an opinion? He's never done anything but read the news?

I'm curious, really. I'm just wondering where YOU see the differences.

It SEEMS like you tend to give a wide benefit of the doubt to those who cover news stories from a right-leaning perspective, while slamming those who may cover the same story, but from a left-leaning perspective.

That may be my skewed perception, but that's the way it seems from where I sit, and from what I've seen in your past posts on the matter.

That's not an attack, but rather an illustration of how hard it can be to see our own biases, and how easily we seem to see those of others. I have them, too; I know this. I try to examine them. I'm the first to admit - and have pointed out many times - that MSNBC is definitely left-leaning. Hell, if you watch it for any amount of time, you'll see that not only do MSNBC's commentators, personalities, news-readers, or talking heads (whichever you'd like to call them, they're the ones on your screen) have a left-wing bias, but you can even pick out WHICH Lefties they're biased towards and against. For instance, Chris Matthews, early on, was a very vocal Hillary supporter. It was clear from his reporting, his words, his emphasis, and the stories he reported and the way he reported them that he liked Hillary, and liked Obama less. With Olbermann, it was just the opposite. There was a palpable sense of distaste whenever he spoke of Hillary as opposed to how he spoke of Obama. That's just a simple "f'rinstance".

My point is, we often have a way of assigning OUR biases to those we watch or listen to; we project our opinions onto them, and either we see what we agree with or disagree with reflected in them - "I like the way he does news; he's a JOURNALIST!" or "I hate this guy - he's just an asshole talking head!"

To me, Brian Williams is a news anchor. Walter Cronkite was a news anchor; that didn't stop him from voicing an opinion now and again, did it? Does Chris Wallace just anchor Fox News's national news? If so, he's a news anchor. But that doesn't stop him from "editorializing". You can editorialize with the way you say something, your facial expression while you say it, the inflection you put on your words. There can be a clear bias even while the words you say may read as being clearly unbiased.

By the way, I remember Chris Wallace's interview with Bill Clinton, and it clearly seemed like he was "editorializing" when he sneeringly claimed that Clinton "did nothing" to ever try to get Bin Laden. His distaste for the former President was palpable.

Just a few things to ponder...

Mike

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Friday, April 10, 2009 4:36 AM

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Citizen ,
You are a troll. The events posted about Sanchez happened. You are an idiot and liar.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 4:55 AM

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Citizen ,
You are a troll. The events posted about Sanchez happened. You are an idiot and liar.

Thank you for proving me right.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 6:42 AM

It's so-called reporters like him and that buzzard looking old fart Jack Cafferty that CNN has fallen behind MSNBC in the ratings, which by the way is fine with me

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Friday, April 10, 2009 6:55 AM

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http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/foxnews_f_1.php
Greta VanSusteren,
http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/foxnews_m_1.php
Sean Hannity, Bit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, and Geraldo Rivera are all listed as FOX news anchors.

Those 'so-called reporters' are an embarassment to the profession.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:05 AM

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http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/foxnews_f_1.php
Greta VanSusteren,
http://www.gogomag.com/talkingheads/foxnews_m_1.php
Sean Hannity, Bit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, and Geraldo Rivera are all listed as FOX news anchors.

Those 'so-called reporters' are an embarassment to the profession.

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What about Keith Olberman? As you know he's stupid, and a douchebag, and has a small penis, and is ugly, and hates puppys.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:13 AM

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Citizen
You can't explain you comments, how I proved YOU right. You can't / won't explain because you're nothing but a pure troll. Thanks for proving ME right.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:24 AM

Citizensky isn't a pure troll, he's a fucking troll.

Just another obtuse liberal twit, too stupid to know the difference between news reporting and news commentary. Explains a lot about how they form their so-called intelligent opinions. A real sad and pathetic lot.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:43 AM

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"What about Keith Olberman?"

Since I don't watch MSNBC, I have no opinion on him.

"As you know he's stupid, and a douchebag, and has a small penis, and is ugly, and hates puppys."

I'm really curious how it is you know so much, er, personal information about Olberman. Especially the penis part. And, does this have anything to do with your love of bagels ?

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:46 AM

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"Just another obtuse right-wing twit, too stupid to know the difference between news reporting and news commentary."

You mean like Bill O'Reilly ? Laura VanSusteren ? Like those people ?

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:54 AM

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"What about Keith Olberman?"

Since I don't watch MSNBC, I have no opinion on him.

"As you know he's stupid, and a douchebag, and has a small penis, and is ugly, and hates puppys."

I'm really curious how it is you know so much, er, personal information about Olberman. Especially the penis part. And, does this have anything to do with your love of bagels ?

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It's a well known fact in the industry he has a small penis, and hates puppys.....and bagels

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:55 AM

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And YOU know this --- how ?

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Friday, April 10, 2009 7:56 AM

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And YOU know this --- how ?

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:06 AM

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Ah !

I can see you don't want to answer the question - how DO you know about Olberman's penis ?

I gotcha'. It'll be our secret.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:09 AM

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S'wenyways

No comment about Greta VanSusteren, Sean Hannity, Bit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, and Geraldo Rivera being listed as FOX NEWS anchors ?

No OUTRAGE ! over the fiction they are objective reporters ?

C'mon folks. You can do it !

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:12 AM

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S'wenyways

No comment about Greta VanSusteren, Sean Hannity, Bit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, and Geraldo Rivera being listed as FOX NEWS anchors ?

No OUTRAGE ! over the fiction they are objective reporters ?

C'mon folks. You can do it !

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Nope, I'm good.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:16 AM

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Another one bites the dust.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:22 AM

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Another one bites the dust.

Why don't you bite me? And then shove your false pretenses of debate up your smug bum.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:30 AM

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And another one gone.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:53 AM

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And another one gone.

Bitch, ya think? Yanno I'm gonna try to drive YOU and all your vile friends off this board just like you've driven dozens of conservatives away. I'm having a real hoot of a time here today. Yippee cay yea mudderfoooker.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:55 AM

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S'wenyways

No comment about Greta VanSusteren, Sean Hannity, Bit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, and Geraldo Rivera being listed as FOX NEWS anchors ?

No OUTRAGE ! over the fiction they are objective reporters ?

C'mon folks. You can do it !

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:57 AM

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Eh, I was talking about you, Jong. Gone - as in over the edge. No more pretending for you now - eh? Trying to be human, intelligent, rational - was that too much of an effort ? Too painful ? Well, enjoy your trip into nowhere.

I won't say it comes as a surprise. Nor will I say it causes me any grief.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 8:58 AM

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Jong, you're so funny when you sputter!

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:07 AM

You're just two hopelesss idiots, Sig & Rude. I wouldn't wish that you both get run over by cars this weekend, because that would be a tragedy, especially if the cars were cool.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:11 AM

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You're just two hopelesss idiots, Sig & Rude. I wouldn't wish that you both get run over by cars this weekend, because that would be a tragedy, especially if the cars were cool.

I just had to save this. The irony is priceless.

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:11 AM

SIGNYM

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BWAHAHAHAHA!

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:12 AM

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Back on topic -

No comment about Greta VanSusteren, Sean Hannity, Bit Hume, Bill O'Reilly, and Geraldo Rivera being listed as FOX NEWS anchors ?

No OUTRAGE ! over the fiction they are objective reporters ?

C'mon folks. You can do it !

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:15 AM

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Jongsstraw wrote:
Friday, April 10, 2009 09:07
You're just two hopelesss idiots, Sig & Rude. I wouldn't wish that you both get run over by cars this weekend, because that would be a tragedy, especially if the cars were cool.

I just had to save this. The irony is priceless.

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You create your own ironies, and then your lapdog bitch cackles at it. What a duet of douchebags you two are. Why don't you just go fuck eachother. You might like it!

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:18 AM

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"You create your own ironies, and then your lapdog bitch cackles at it. What a duet of douchebags you two are. Why don't you just go fuck eachother. You might like it!

"

And this. A model of intelligence, wit and skillful riposte. (:irony:)

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Friday, April 10, 2009 9:19 AM

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Friday, April 10, 2009 09:07
You're just two hopelesss idiots, Sig & Rude. I wouldn't wish that you both get run over by cars this weekend, because that would be a tragedy, especially if the cars were cool.
I just had to save this. The irony is priceless.

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Barry's budget; 4 trillion

Barry's war; 89 billion

RUE's irony; priceless

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