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Cancer clusters

POSTED BY: CANTTAKESKY
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Friday, December 31, 2010 5:29 AM

CANTTAKESKY




http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=12509731

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Since 1996, 35 children have been diagnosed — and three have died — of brain tumors, leukemia, lymphoma, and other forms of cancer — all within a 12-mile wide circle that includes two small towns and farmland just south of Lake Erie. With many of the diagnoses coming between 2002 and 2006, state health authorities declared it a cancer cluster, saying the number and type of diagnoses exceed what would be expected statistically for so small a population over that time.

"All you think about is what happened to these kids," said Donna Hisey, 43, the mother whose family has been devastated by cancer. "Is it gone? Or is it still here? What is it?!"

After three years of exhaustive investigation, no cause is known. Investigators have tested wells and public drinking water, sampled groundwater and air near factories and checked homes, schools and industries for radiation.



Study on the 108 cancer clusters.
http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/132/supp1/43.full.pdf

CDC on the cancer clusters
http://www.cdc.gov/nceh/clusters/investigations.htm

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Not successfully identifying the causes of these cancer clusters is absolutely unacceptable. We need to throw money and our best people at these questions until we find the answers, no matter what corporate toes the answers should step on.

This makes me furious.

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Friday, December 31, 2010 6:12 AM

ANTHONYT

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Hello,

How bizarre. Usually with these types of stories, there is also a strong belief in a particular *something* that is causing the illness.

It's odd to hear of such a story where no one knows or thinks they know.

--Anthony

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Friday, December 31, 2010 6:40 AM

CANTTAKESKY


But that's just it. They've had 108 cancer clusters, and no cause has been found for any of them. That is what I am mad about.

Surely they are incompetent or not trying hard enough.

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Friday, December 31, 2010 9:44 AM

SIGNYM

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It's very difficult to investigate after-the-fact, and I HAVE been part of these types of investigations. There was a site next to a school that we were investigating. Kind weird, the parents were concerned about leukemia, which was NOT a cluster, but what did show up was a higher-than average incidence of thyroid cancer. The usual leukemia suspects were not in evidence, but the site- which does secondary oil recovery similar to fracking- used radioactive iodine to track oil-field flow. All in the past. None detectable.

There is a chemical waste disposal injection just site outside of the town of Brady. It could have been past releases into the air, chemicals which are long-since gone. Very difficult find. Possibly looking into the manifests of the disposal company from roughly year 2000 might help.

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Friday, December 31, 2010 3:50 PM

DREAMTROVE


I looked into this one years ago.

There are several causes, all of them pollution:

1) Govt. land is exempt from land use regulations. They put countless toxins here, and also sell that ability to private parties under the table.

2) Corporations claim "accidents" and "spills" when what really happened is that they deliberately poured toxins into the water supply.

The particular site of the story I knew about for a while because someone I worked with at the RPUSA lived there. He had cancer, as did his wife, and her father. Their 7 year old son had leukemia, which their first child had died of.

He thought it was a case of bad genetics. I said
Move. Far away. Quickly. I could not convince him that this was an environmental issue.

Years ago, working for the Census, my mom found a neighborhood where every households except for one had at least one member with cancer, sometimes more. The neighborhood was boxed in by two factories, both of which had open license to pour chemicals into the water supply, because the work they did was supposedly "Non-toxic." The trick was that their main products were non-toxic, but they used many other chemicals in the process that were known carcinogens.

BTW, the one household that had no cancer, the only thing different was that the family used only bottled water.

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Friday, December 31, 2010 3:56 PM

CANTTAKESKY


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
There are several causes, all of them pollution:

If this is true, then the problem is not government incompetence, but government cover-up in those 108 cancer clusters.

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Friday, December 31, 2010 9:42 PM

DREAMTROVE


theres plenty of blame to go around but the govt isnt just a pollution loophole by being exempt from its own land use regulations, its also a.major polluter itself

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