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Taking the Camp, out of HellCamp.

POSTED BY: FREMDFIRMA
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 17:08
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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:09 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Okay, here's one thing I been watching with a gimlet eye...

Now that the Hellcamps have been crushed, some parents have been resorting to such behavior THEMSELVES.

Neighbors had reported possible abuse of Wis. girl
http://news.yahoo.com/neighbors-had-reported-possible-abuse-wis-girl-0
80620325.html


Extended confinement, malnutrition, poor sanitary conditions, isolation, sexual abuse.

Trial starts in kids' forced Grand Canyon hikes
http://www.gazette.com/articles/hikes-133571-kids-phoenix.html

Forced march, dehydration, malnutrition, heatstroke, physical abuse.

Ala girl's short life full of turmoil before death
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501363_162-57384999/ala-girls-short-life-f
ull-of-turmoil-before-death
/
(Actual Case Files if you want em)
http://www.myfoxal.com/story/17029263/savanjudge-orders-savannah-hardi
n-files-unsealed


Forced run, general mistreatment, death.

Compare this treatment to Jordan Riaks handy list here.
http://www.nospank.net/boot.htm

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Now, what do these things have in common - the same exact treatment delivered by the Hellcamps.
And here's the rub, when parents do this to their own kids, it results in criminal charges.
Sooo - why on EARTH was it *ever* okay to hire it out, to commit the abuse by proxy ?

And yet, when it was done by proxy rarely if ever were charges delivered even if it resulted in the death of the victims - time and time again these facilities and their personnel were let off the hook entire, and the few times they weren't any punishment was laughably pathetic.

Compare what happened to Savanna Hardin to what happened to Martin Lee Anderson, for example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Anderson_death_controversy

Mind you, neither I nor CoTL has formulated a response to this as there's currently uncertainty a response is needed since in the three cases above charges were pressed, but it is definately food for thought in that hiring it out distanced the abusers from the conseqences of their actions and by cutting off that outlet many have resorted to engaging in such behavior themselves.

Gotta think on this one, a while.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 6:46 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Also, while slightly off-topic here, Forbes just published a guest editorial by Cevin Soling, author of The War on Kids which is a serious both-barrels to the establishment and very thought provoking.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesmarshallcrotty/2012/02/27/why-public-
schools-must-be-abolished
/

I am more of a reformist than abolitionist on this matter, but damned if he don't have a point there.

-F

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 4:57 PM

CANTTAKESKY


"You cannot reform school just as it is not possible to reform slavery." -- Cevin Soling

You can disguise it though, as one can do with slavery.

Sad about the abuses. Is it any wonder, when schools are run by misopedists to mass produce dehumanizing automatons?

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Tuesday, February 28, 2012 5:08 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I think that there have always been horrid parents like this, it isn't a new thing. I think though that it has become something the news is more willing to talk about.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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