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He was on suicide watch and then commited suicide

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 11:17 AM

WHOZIT


http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9695306/jeffrey-epstein-dead-suicide-jail

Names were beginning to come out, now watch this story disappear.

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 11:30 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by whozit:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9695306/jeffrey-epstein-dead-suicide-jail

Names were beginning to come out, now watch this story disappear.



Huh, I thought it meant something different. I guess it means they Watched him commit Suicide.

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 11:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


"Suicide".
Yeah, right.

The alt media has long said that Trump was going to use the deep state's child traficking and pedophilic activities to take down power players, both public and hidden. According to speculation, MANY powerful figures had an existential interest in their activities never seeing the light of day. (Trump himself, btw, was exonerated in one person's testimony in the most-recently released documents from the earlier case. "Trump didn't partake of any sex with any of us")

Hubby and I were talking about how long Epstein would live, and (seeing as he was the central figure for further prosecution) whether or not he had an un-bribe-able security detail attached to him, and how he might best protect himself from being suicided.

My opinion, fwiw, is that he should have been deposed right away, and had the deposition recorded. That way the "threat" of Epstein "talking" would have already happened, and there would be no benefit trying to silence him. OTOH, maybe his handlers would just want to make an example of him anyway - Mossad is a very effective and ruthless organization.

I hope the investigation can go on without him, on the basis of documents and other testimony, but at least half of the info is irretrievably lost. Hopefully some of the child-trafficking rat-bastards can still be prosecuted.



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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


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Saturday, August 10, 2019 11:54 AM

WISHIMAY

You can't even run your own life, I'll beat you to death if you try to run mine... sunshine.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


The alt media has long said that Trump was going to use the deep state's child traficking and pedophilic activities to take down power players, both public and hidden.




Hmmm, WHO was Epsteins friend and WHO is the current Prez??? WHO then has the most to lose???

I'm completely sure Trump just stuck to strippers...






Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 12:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


TWITCHY

Quote:

"Trump didn't partake of any sex with any of us"


The person who flew more often on the Lolita Express?? BILL CLINTON, 26 times. Get your head out of your ass and give it some fresh air once in a while, willya?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 2:06 PM

WHOZIT


The MSM is now reporting that he was no longer on suicide watch...huh? This after he tried to commit suicide 2 week ago? The MSM said he was on suicide watch and now they say he wasn't!? I should change the title of this thread to "What the Fuck Happened!"

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 4:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


So how many now is it that Hilliary Suicided?

Obviously Vince Fosterr counted, but does Ron Brown? Does Brown go in Slick's Column, or does Hilliary get credit for Bill's as well?



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Saturday, August 10, 2019 4:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63147&p=2
Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Accused of Molesting, Is Charged with Human Trafficking of Minors


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
"FBI-NYPD Crimes Against Children Task Force"

Jeez, what took so long? And why didn't some other country get to him first? He was an obvious person to investigate.

And ... if anything that PN posted is any indication of how things go ... there's a lot of people who'd like to see Epstein definitively quiet. I wonder how nervous he is at the moment, not about the police, but about his 'clients'.



The second post in the entire thread. I thought he wouldn't make it to trial. And one way or another, I won me a nickel from myself.

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 5:08 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
TWITCHY

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"Trump didn't partake of any sex with any of us"


The person who flew more often on the Lolita Express?? BILL CLINTON, 26 times. Get your head out of your ass and give it some fresh air once in a while, willya?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .



Oh BTW, just to take another personal snipe at TWITCHY ... TWITCHY, if I reacted like you do, I'd say that we should eradicate all Midwestern housewives because it would raise the average USA IQ by 10 points ....

But, I'm not like you, TWITCHY. I don't think ALL Midwestern housewives are intolerant hate-filled brain-dead neo-fascists. Just you. And hey, I'd be willing to remove the label if you showed just a little compassion and self-awareness.

But enough personal sniping for now.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 7:02 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


interweb gossip is already talking of a conspiracy

https://twitter.com/OpDeathEaters/status/1098995327074357248
US judge inexplicably ordered Prince Andrew child rape allegations struck from Jeffery Epstien court record. #OpDeathEaters

New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, the British elite Britain’s Prince Andrew , Glenn Dubin, Jean-Luc Brunel, the Vatican connection, a Moslem royal “another prince,” a "foreign president," a well-known prime minsiter" EB of Israel Mossad connection? French Trafficking women from Eastern Europe Russian mafia or KGB networks, owner of a “large hotel chain” in France, 2 US Presidents, the CIA? MI5 or MI6? elites of business and hollywood.

Canadian, French and British media seemed to ignore the story until now, British press are focusing on Prince Andrew’s link to him on the front pages of tomorrow’s newspapers.

Former MCC inmate: There’s ‘no way’ Jeffrey Epstein killed himself

https://nypost.com/2019/08/10/former-mcc-inmate-theres-no-way-jeffrey-
epstein-killed-himself
/

Anyone think this might be the end of Ghislaine Maxwell, she will end up like her father, bizarre "accident", suicide

I guess maybe way back 10+ yrs ago, there was some level of truth to the crazy crap piratenews used to post on firefly fans?

I notice the 4chan site, maybe voat dot co the bratty reddit clone and reddit Dot Com itself censored, maybe kiwifarms under attack, were these free speech sites a problem?


Has Attorney General Bill Barr Lost Trust in Corrupt FBI? AG Calls on FBI... AND INSPECTOR GENERAL... to Investigate Epstein's Death
https://twitter.com/SavingAmerica4U/status/1160311195599028224

Jeffrey Epstein Is No Longer Dead Man Walking, He Is Now Dead!
https://www.brighteon.com/f897249b-8e23-4976-a88a-b4a41b8b3fdd

'Jeffrey Epstein told guards and inmates that someone tried to KILL HIM weeks before he hanged himself - as questions mount over why the billionaire pedophile was taken off suicide watch just as sex slave lawsuit named his powerful friends.'
https://gab.com/Michael_Q/posts/102594961423964690


https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1160241172234874880
Barr announces DOJ inspector general investigation into Epstein death.


https://twitter.com/Tiff_FitzHenry/status/1160280562122276864
From a deposition of a former Epstein child sex slave discussing her time as a child sex slave: "Did you meet Al Gore? Yes Did you meet Heidi Klum? Yes Did you meet Naomi Campbell? Yes" Exactly what are these people? I think 'false idols' is too kind a term to describe them.

https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1160235586000699392
Lee Harvey Oswald was less suspicious then this, this is next level desperation by the elites. #Epstien

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 8:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Well, if there's one thing everybody can agree on it seems that nobody in the country believes that Epstein killed himself.

The finger pointing might be all over the map, but it doesn't look like anybody is buying suicide.

Pretty f'ed up when conspiracy theories start becoming mainstream truisms, but here we are.



I'd love to believe that people are finally evolving, but sadly I think it's just another convenient political piece of shit for the monkeys to fling at each other.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 9:14 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


The alt media has long said that Trump was going to use the deep state's child traficking and pedophilic activities to take down power players, both public and hidden.




Hmmm, WHO was Epsteins friend and WHO is the current Prez??? WHO then has the most to lose???

I'm completely sure Trump just stuck to strippers... :



You're obviously joking, right ?

Trump : Had an alleged consensual affair with a known very adult porn star, ONCE. HER WORDS were that she thought she owed it to him, because he was rich and famous.


Clinton, on the other hand, has 27 KNOWN and confirmed trips on Epstein's Lolita air, to his island. At least some of those flights were taken with out any Secret Service, but WITH some young ' masseuses ' , which is code for Epstein's crowds as ' sex ' workers.

The ONLY fight Trump is ever known to have taken on ANY Epstein plane is from Miami to NYC. No detours to Rapey Island.


You have no case, what so ever.

None.

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 9:15 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well, if there's one thing everybody can agree on it seems that nobody in the country believes that Epstein killed himself.

The finger pointing might be all over the map, but it doesn't look like anybody is buying suicide.

Pretty f'ed up when conspiracy theories start becoming mainstream truisms, but here we are.



I'd love to believe that people are finally evolving, but sadly I think it's just another convenient political piece of shit for the monkeys to fling at each other.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump is Very "Presidential":
Trump Retweets Conspiracy Theory Tying Clintons to Jeffrey Epstein’s Death
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-cl
intons-trump-conspiracy-theory.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 9:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


He was on suicide watch and then committed suicide


I just had to repeat this old grade school limerick:

By the sewer he lived.
By the sewer he died.
They said it was murder,
But it was sewer-side.

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 10:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well, if there's one thing everybody can agree on it seems that nobody in the country believes that Epstein killed himself.

The finger pointing might be all over the map, but it doesn't look like anybody is buying suicide.

Pretty f'ed up when conspiracy theories start becoming mainstream truisms, but here we are.



I'd love to believe that people are finally evolving, but sadly I think it's just another convenient political piece of shit for the monkeys to fling at each other.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump is Very "Presidential":
Trump Retweets Conspiracy Theory Tying Clintons to Jeffrey Epstein’s Death
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/08/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-cl
intons-trump-conspiracy-theory.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



I'm not going to absolve Trump of the behavior.

I was just pointing out that nobody believes it was suicide and/or the loudest voices have been and will continue to use it as political ammunition.

I really don't understand why Trump would even bother tweeting about it. Half the country already thinks that Clinton was involved in the "suicide". By contrast, I doubt very many people believe that Trump is involved. I'm sure we'll be hearing from some of those in the latter camp in the upcoming days though.



BTW, second. Does the fact that the man he re-tweeted is a black comedian make it any better?



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 10:39 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I really don't understand why Trump would even bother tweeting about it. Half the country already thinks that Clinton was involved in the "suicide". By contrast, I doubt very many people believe that Trump is involved. I'm sure we'll be hearing from some of those in the latter camp in the upcoming days though.



BTW, second. Does the fact that the man he re-tweeted is a black comedian make it any better?



Do Right, Be Right. :)

I really do understand why Trump tweeted about it, if you are correct that half the country already thinks that the Clintons murdered Epstein. Trump wants that half to vote for him. But to be Presidential, Trump needs to stop thinking only about being reelected. To do his job, he has to stop thinking only about himself, but I don't think he can. By the way, the re-tweeted black comedian is doing his job: make people laugh. Trump isn't doing his job: make people think calmly/reasonably. As part of his job the emotions a President should stir in his nation are the opposite of anger/derision/contempt.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, August 10, 2019 10:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I really don't understand why Trump would even bother tweeting about it. Half the country already thinks that Clinton was involved in the "suicide". By contrast, I doubt very many people believe that Trump is involved. I'm sure we'll be hearing from some of those in the latter camp in the upcoming days though.



BTW, second. Does the fact that the man he re-tweeted is a black comedian make it any better?



Do Right, Be Right. :)

I really do understand why Trump tweeted about it, if you are correct that half the country already thinks that the Clintons murdered Epstein. Trump wants that half to vote for him.



But that doesn't make any sense, was my point. People who believe that the Clintons have left a trail of bodies behind in their wake were likely to vote for Trump anyhow. People who don't believe it likely weren't.

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By the way, the re-tweeted black comedian is doing his job: make people laugh.


Apparently you didn't even bother watching Terrance William's video that was linked in your article. Just because he's a comedian doesn't mean that everything he says is funny or meant with the intention to make people laugh. The video in question was not funny nor was it made with that intention.

So no... at least in the case of this video, William's was not "doing his job".

Go ahead and re-watch it and tell me with a straight face that I'm wrong about that.

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Trump isn't doing his job: make people think calmly/reasonably. As part of his job the emotions a President should stir in his nation are the opposite of anger/derision/contempt.


Says the guy who goes around telling people that they need to kill their bosses and steal everything they owned?

Now I don't agree with your quick-to-violence attitude or proposed solutions to every single problem, Second, but I do believe the time for a president that just sits back and pretends that everything is alright and advocates the peole to just sit back and take their happy pills while the world falls around them is over.

If I were to guess, the reason why Trump picked that particular tweet to re-tweet and speak his thoughts by proxy is precisely because it was made by a black comedian. So not only was he not white, but because of his profession he was likely to have a following and an audience that was fairly diverse beforehand.





The one valuable thing that your article did provide is the last paragraph (usually roughly where the valuable stuff is hidden in any article).

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Travis View, a conspiracy theory researcher, told NBC News that the quick reaction to Epstein’s death illustrates that the “fringe conspiracies of two decades ago are touching the mainstream now where even lawyers and people who are otherwise close to the Republican Party feel very comfortable asserting these types of theories.”




This is EXACTLY the point that I was making.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 11, 2019 12:36 AM

WISHIMAY

You can't even run your own life, I'll beat you to death if you try to run mine... sunshine.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:


But enough personal sniping for now.







Hmm, the Putin Stooges are a little sensitive that Bill Clinton prolly wouldn't have the pull to get him murdered, I mean, HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT.

I wonder which person HAS an army of zombie-followers that would be happy to kill something that could take down their glorius shithea....I mean "leader"...


I wonder...





Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Sunday, August 11, 2019 12:40 AM

WISHIMAY

You can't even run your own life, I'll beat you to death if you try to run mine... sunshine.


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Originally posted by AURaptor:



You have no case, what so ever.

None.




Then why you sooo sensitive there, Boo?
All those pics of Perv Prez and Eppie together bothering you?





Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Sunday, August 11, 2019 1:53 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


But enough personal sniping for now.







Hmm, the Putin Stooges are a little sensitive that Bill Clinton prolly wouldn't have the pull to get him murdered, I mean, HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT.

I wonder which person HAS an army of zombie-followers that would be happy to kill something that could take down their glorius shithea....I mean "leader"...


I wonder...





Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!


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Sunday, August 11, 2019 2:35 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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I'm sure there are an awful lot of well-known and/or powerful people walking around with a knot in their stomaches right now.

Epstein was found partially conscious with marks around his neck. He had been housed with a ginormous cop-killer. Why wasn't he in isolation?

I wonder if he'll make it to trial. Maybe this will be the 126th Clinton "suicide". We should start a betting pool. - SIGNY

I found my old post where I stated the obvious about the numerous people who had an interest in seeing Epstien dead.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63147&p=2

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Sunday, August 11, 2019 8:52 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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Sunday, August 11, 2019 9:17 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Sunday, August 11, 2019 9:57 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Republican voters must be the stupidest people on the planet. Seriously. They think the Clintons have killed, how many people? And yet have never been charged with a single one? Benghazi 7 times? Your GOP lawyers must be retards - seriously, how do you defend that record? Zero convictions - you're like 0 for 50. You hate them this much and are convinced they committed all these crimes and you got ZERO. Seriously retarded.

On the other hand...I really wouldn't doubt that slick Willy had/may have had "sexual relations" with underage girls, but what does that prove? There was a long line of people that wanted him dead.

So how about we think it through instead of going with our feelz? He was in a Federal lock-up, enjoying DoJ hospitality. Clinton cronies can't just walk in and hang him. You have to have connections and orders to remove guards and eff up the cameras. Hello, paging Bill Barr...

SNIGLET thinks one witness saying "Trump never touched me" means he's innocent - tells you how stupid she is. The Miami Herald reported "nearly 60 victims." 1 doesn't speak for them all. Interesting timing on her pronouncement too, doncha think?

How's the Q thing coming, dear? Are we on track? You know you just under cut everything you post when you subscribe to such obvious quackery. Don't care? Just here to agitate? Check!

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Sunday, August 11, 2019 9:59 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/10/nyregion/jeffrey-epstein-suicide.ht
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Mr. Epstein was placed on suicide watch after the incident on July 23 and received a daily psychiatric evaluation, according to a person familiar with his detention. He was removed from suicide watch on July 29 and returned to the special housing unit, a segregated area of the prison with extra security, this person said.

The authorities did not immediately explain why he was taken off suicide watch. The F.B.I. said it was investigating, and Attorney General William P. Barr said in a statement that a special inquiry would be opened into what happened.

“I was appalled to learn that Jeffrey Epstein was found dead early this morning from an apparent suicide while in federal custody,” Mr. Barr said. “Mr. Epstein’s death raises serious questions that must be answered.”

In addition to the F.B.I., the Inspector General, the Justice Department’s internal watchdog, will open an investigation into Mr. Epstein’s death, Mr. Barr said. The Metropolitan Correctional Center is run by the federal Bureau of Prisons.

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Sunday, August 11, 2019 1:33 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


People across the world think there is more to this story

Found dead from apparent suicide after Document drop
https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/329617-epstein-found
-dead-in-jail/#comments

many people wanted him dead
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/political-gamers-909409192/jeffrey-eps
tein-dead-of-apparent-suicide-hours-aft-33466203/?page=1


Jeffrey Epstein Found Dead in Jail
https://dinarvets.com/forums/index.php?/topic/267797-report-jeffrey-ep
stein-found-dead-in-jail
/

convenient?
https://goldismoney2.com/threads/epstein-dead.291508/
Epstein Dead
http://sadovin.proboards.com/thread/74072/epstein-dead



From watching stuff break on twitter, facebook chats etc I think most people do not buy the story, they feel some sort of foul play might be involved or feel there is some conditioning brainwashing from the news media maybe spin or control from the tv programing. Even today they use language to say he was a Economic Wizard, a Finance Guru, he was none of this he was involved in the movement of people, abuse, prositiution and black mail and the network was probably vast, it was deep and it was a global group or worldwide network of groups
Epstein was a pedophile and as the truthers like Piratenews said he was connected to other elite global criminal pedophile

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I googled: Epstein unsealed document release pdf. It'll download to your phone/computer. I'm glad I read it for myself instead of the media giving the so called highlights and leaving a lot of it out.

Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell..these people were foul. Maxwell raped those girls as often as Epstein did. Most of the time with Epstein. They were also drugging the girls. One poor girl flew to the island and woke up in W. Palm Beach. She didn't remember flying from the island or how she got back to Florida.

Corrupting children and chasing orgasms. How sad the two of them are. Such empty, sordid lives.
https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/how-can-the-public-get-access-to
-epsteins-2000-released-files.2651796
/



http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537861-Jeffery-Epstein-sui
cided-in-jail-last-night&s=bef3d9148f6012abd60a96435e3cb4d8


http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-141098.html

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The Political Corner
https://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2590891
Reload this Page Who wanted Epstein dead? Everyone



Jeffrey Epstein dead in apparent suicide
https://www.wrestlingforum.com/anything/2400556-jeffrey-epstein-dead-a
pparent-suicide.html


Who murdered Jeffrey Epstein? Or was it actually a suicide?
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=9540556&page=2

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/political-gamers-909409192/jeffrey-eps
tein-dead-of-apparent-suicide-hours-aft-33466203/?page=1

Jeffrey Epstein dead of apparent suicide hours after released documents name several political figures




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Sunday, August 11, 2019 2:46 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Larry Sanger the wikipedia guy seems to have suddenly gone full PirateNews, AlexJones, DavidIcke level tin foil head conspiracy?

The Lottery Rigged? Did you know Epstein won 29.3 Million Lump Sum (after taxes) in Oklahoma’s Powerball lottery, Some suspect NM Gov. Bill Richardson of having rigged the lottery
https://medium.com/p/d23d2b0933e5/

Jeffrey Epstein Accuser Names Bill Richardson, Glenn Dubin, Prince Andrew?


Foch Avenue, the Paris department, name like Epstein is a rare surname.

https://twitter.com/Kennedymanugue2

A Ray Chandler got married in recent times? Vogue magazine photos, what kinds of family does she connect to, editor of Paris Vogue, Alan Dershowitz Devil's Advocate, the Elite of Europe, its strange how certain media companies, they tie in with Cosmo, fashion mags they drop a good story or magazines and papers can be told to bury a story.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/former-nypd-head-if-epstein-was-in-solit
ary-confinement-he-wasnt-on-suicide-watch_3037017.html

Former Head of NYC Prisons: If Epstein Was in Solitary Confinement, He Wasn’t on Suicide Watch

“Suicide” a day after everything gets leaked, or Heart attack? or "Suicide" under 24/7 suicide watch? https://boingboing.net/2019/08/10/jeffrey-epstein-is-dead-of-sui.html



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Monday, August 12, 2019 6:09 AM

SIGNYM

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Here It Is… Complete List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously or Committed Suicide Before Testimony, Including Jeffrey Epstein

Jim Hoft August 11, 2019

On Saturday multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, the highest profile prisoner in US custody, was found dead in his prison cell in Manhattan.

This occurred the day after two thousand previously sealed court documents involving the Jeffrey Epstein child sex abuse case were released to the public.

The documents described how Bill Clinton held a private party on Jeffrey Epstein’s pedophile island.

Clinton made at least 27 times trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s private plane. Most of those flights were with underage girls.
Despite a previous attempt on his life just three weeks ago the prison guards skipped the 30 minute required checks on Epstein’s cell last night.
Early this morning they found him dead.

Jeffrey Epstein is the latest in a long list of Clinton family associates and acquaintances who died mysteriously or committed suicide before their public testimony.

In 2016 CBS Las Vegas posted a list of Bill and Hillary Clinton associates alleged to have died under mysterious circumstances.

Here is that list.

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 heroes killed in Benghazi.
And today you can add multi-millionaire Jeffrey Epstein to the list.



I'm not saying that the Clintons had all of these people killed. I'm just saying that it's really unlucky to work with the Clintons

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Monday, August 12, 2019 6:54 AM

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For how many of those (if they're even real) were either Clinton charged for? None? Really? No Republican donors with mega bucks to hire Republican lawyers to even sue them in a civil case? Zero? Are Republican politician and lawyers really that stupid and inept? Or is it just Republican voters?

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Monday, August 12, 2019 7:41 AM

SIGNYM

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...if they're even real ...
Well, look them up. Convince yourself that they're either real or not.

Some say that Bill Clinton had deep connections with the CIA. Some say. Now, I don't know for sure whether he did or didn't, but I CAN say that his big policies were very VERY favorable to bankers and financialists, and played a large part in the Great Recession of 2008.



*****

Yanno, given the dozens (if not hundreds) of high-powered people who could be implicated in Epstein's activities and his supposed connections to "intelligence" (most often Mossad) as an asset that produced blackmail-worthy material, it's been widely speculated that he would never make it to trial. Et viola! Look at what happened! "Suicide"!

Also, it's been pretty widely speculated that Trump was aware of Epstein's activities and connections to the deep state, and was going to use Epstein to take down a number of high-powered people who were compromised and therefore controlled by "intelligence". Trump's executive order on child and human trafficking which would allow him to seize the assets of child and human traffickers ... signed very early in the Trump administration ... is pointed to as evidence that this has been part of Trump's plan since the beginning.

So I'm left in something of a quandary: I don't agree with many of Trump's policies. OTOH, as long as the deep state is still drawing breathe and twitching (and occasionally assassinating people) I still want Trump to drain the swamp. For now, I'm still on the side of swamp-draining, even if ... no, especially if ... it means taking down the banks.



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Monday, August 12, 2019 9:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Can we stop talking about the Clintons already?

Relax, Cap'n. It's a fucking meme.

I think the likelihood that the Clintons themselves had anything to do with Epstein's murder is slim to none. That's not to say I don't believe they're not currently breathing a huge sigh of relief right now. They just don't have any real power anymore, and I'm sure that there were a lot more powerful names on that list.


Can we just agree that he was murdered?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 12, 2019 9:20 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Some say that Bill Clinton had deep connections with the CIA. Some say. Now, I don't know for sure whether he did or didn't, but I CAN say that his big policies were very VERY favorable to bankers and financialists, and played a large part in the Great Recession of 2008.

Signym, the Final Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and Economic Crisis of the United States calls you a blatant liar.
www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-FCIC/pdf/GPO-FCIC.pdf

According to the Final Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and Economic Crisis of the United States, between 2001 and 2007, mortgage debt rose nearly as much as it had in the whole rest of the nation's history. At about the same time, home prices doubled. Around the country, armies of mortgage salesmen hustled to get Americans to borrow more money for houses—or even just prospective houses. Many salesmen didn’t ask borrowers for proof of income, job or assets. Then the salesmen were gone, leaving behind a new debtor holding new keys and perhaps a faint suspicion that the deal was too good to be true.
www.history.com/news/2008-financial-crisis-causes

Signed by Ronald Reagan, the Gramm-Rudman Act was the real villain. It allowed banks to engage in trading profitable derivatives that they sold to investors. These mortgage-backed securities needed home loans as collateral. The derivatives created an insatiable demand for more and more mortgages.

Hedge funds and other financial institutions around the world owned the mortgage-backed securities. The securities were also in mutual funds, corporate assets, and pension funds. The banks had chopped up the original mortgages and resold them in tranches. That made the derivatives impossible to price.

Why did stodgy pension funds buy such risky assets? They thought an insurance product called credit default swaps protected them. A traditional insurance company known as the American International Group sold these swaps. When the derivatives lost value, AIG didn't have enough cash flow to honor all the swaps.

The first signs of the financial crisis appeared in 2007. Banks panicked when they realized they would have to absorb the losses. They stopped lending to each other. They didn't want other banks giving them worthless mortgages as collateral. No one wanted to get stuck holding the bag. As a result, interbank borrowing costs, called Libor, rose. This mistrust within the banking community was the primary cause of the 2008 financial crisis.
www.thebalance.com/2008-financial-crisis-3305679

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, August 12, 2019 9:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

...if they're even real ...
Well, look them up. Convince yourself that they're either real or not.

Some say that Bill Clinton had deep connections with the CIA. Some say. Now, I don't know for sure whether he did or didn't, but I CAN say that his big policies were very VERY favorable to bankers and financialists, and played a large part in the Great Recession of 2008.



*****



Story time with SNIGLET.
"Some say..."
"I don't know for sure ..."
But lack of knowledge won't stop me from smearing people with speculation and innuendo...

Doesn't matter how many in your list are real - if the number is as high as you say then it's even more proof that it's phony BECAUSE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN CHARGED.

Still can't explain that can you?

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Monday, August 12, 2019 9:26 AM

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And it will hardly be the last bubble to burst.

The DOW is certainly due for a major correction. The healthcare industry is as well.

The current wealth of America is built upon pyramid schemes.


It's Amway up in this motherfucker.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 12, 2019 9:27 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Can we stop talking about the Clintons already?

Relax, Cap'n. It's a fucking meme.

I think the likelihood that the Clintons themselves had anything to do with Epstein's murder is slim to none. That's not to say I don't believe they're not currently breathing a huge sigh of relief right now. They just don't have any real power anymore, and I'm sure that there were a lot more powerful names on that list.

Can we just agree that he was murdered?




Tell Lord Trump that. He's been tweeting that sh*t for days.

And it's not a f*cking meme.

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Monday, August 12, 2019 9:33 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Can we stop talking about the Clintons already?

Relax, Cap'n. It's a fucking meme.

I think the likelihood that the Clintons themselves had anything to do with Epstein's murder is slim to none. That's not to say I don't believe they're not currently breathing a huge sigh of relief right now. They just don't have any real power anymore, and I'm sure that there were a lot more powerful names on that list.

Can we just agree that he was murdered?




Tell Lord Trump that.



For the last time, he ain't my Daddy. I don't have a direct line to the guy.


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And it's not a f*cking meme, dolt.



It's become a meme at this point.

You're nuts if you can't admit that there haven't been a very long trail of convenient deaths left in the wake of the Clintons over the years.

So when I've said it here, it's a fucking meme.


I don't really believe that the Clintons had the power to do it, even though they aren't sad to see him go. It was likely done by somebody who we don't even know by name, and they'd like to keep it that way.


Can we agree that Epstein was murdered?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 12, 2019 9:40 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Evidence that it's become a meme:








These all predate Epstein's death by quite a lot. It was a meme before Trump was even elected.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 12, 2019 10:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Evidence that it's become a meme:

These all predate Epstein's death by quite a lot. It was a meme before Trump was even elected.




You're not that dumb, right? What it really is is propaganda and slander hiding as a meme. They're pretty effective too, because there are plenty of dumb shits with a vote that will believe that stuff. Pretty obvious to most people. You believe it, right? Pizzagate was real, right?

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Monday, August 12, 2019 10:48 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

For the last time, he ain't my Daddy. I don't have a direct line to the guy.



Totally missed the point as usual.

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Monday, August 12, 2019 11:28 AM

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Monday, August 12, 2019 12:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECONDRATE... Bill Clinton did one thing which made the Great Recession possible, and another thing which made it worse.

The thing that he did which made it possible is that he pushed for, and got, the Commodities Futures Modernization Act, which deregulated Credit Default Swaps. Instead of "spreading" risk, Credit Default Swaps propagated risk by allowing banks to swap (or sell) swaps of UNKNOWN QUALITY to each other. So instead of stabilizing banks, when one started to topple it sratted to take the others down with it.

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The 2008 Financial Crisis

Before the financial crisis of 2008, there was more money invested in credit default swaps than in other pools. The value of credit default swaps stood at $45 trillion compared to $22 trillion invested in the stock market, $7.1 trillion in mortgages and $4.4 trillion in U.S. Treasury. In mid-2010, the value of outstanding CDS was $26.3 trillion.

Many investment banks were involved, but the biggest casualty was Lehman Brothers investment bank, which owed $600 billion in debt, out of which $400 billion was covered by CDS. The bank’s insurer, American Insurance Group, lacked sufficient funds to clear the debt, and the Federal Reserve of the United States needed to intervene to bail it out.

Companies that traded in swaps were battered during the financial crisis. Since the market was unregulated, banks used swaps to insure complex financial products.


https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/finance/cred
it-default-swap-cds
/

The OTHER thing that Bill Clinton did which made things worse, was that he pushed for, and got, a repeal of Glass Steagall, which allowed previously stable "savings banks" to participate in the complex MBAs and CDSs and CDOs. My very own bank, WAMU, went belly up in 2008 because of that, and was taken over by JPMChase.


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Monday, August 12, 2019 12:10 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Story time with SNIGLET.
"Some say..."
"I don't know for sure ..."
But lack of knowledge won't stop me from smearing people with speculation and innuendo...

Oh yeah, THIS from the guy who thought that Trump was a Russian puppet and who REPEATEDLY said that I was a Russian troll???

At least I point out that it's speculation. YOU, OTOH, repeat fables as if they were fact.

Oh and BTW, you repeatedly posted that I made money being a "Russian troll" and insinuated that I got my orders from the Kremlin. You then said that you "never believed" that I was a Russian troll. And later, you said you "corrected" your post.

So just OOC, which statement do you now disavow? The ones where you said I'm a paid Russian troll? Or the one where you said you never believed that I was? Yanno, just for legal purposes.


Back to Epstein ....

If Epstein was on suicide watch and committed suicide anyway, heads should roll. If Epstein WASN'T on suicide watch, heads should roll. How in holy hell does a guy in Federal custody, in the same jail where they held "El Chapo" Guzman before HIS trial, a promoter of dozens if not hundreds of criminal acts by the rich and powerful, wind up dead???

I'm not blaming the Clintons btw. They're not powerful enough to arrange for this guy's death. But there are people in our government and outside of it who make their living assassinating people. What makes you think they restrict their activities to foreign countries?

There is a war going on, CC. The spying on the Trump campaign, the WH/DOJ/FBI/CIA effort to implicate the guy in a false charge, the ongoing organized media campaign to smear him with an untruth, the involvement of MI6, Australian and Ukrainian governments to create this story, the constant false flags designed to derail his foreign policy .... surely you must be now realize there is embedded in ourgovernment (and others) and the media a group of people not under a shred of democratic control who are working to impose their policies on us whether we voted for it or not.

You may see it as a good thing ("the resistance" in government) and I see it as a bad thing, but either way we both should acknowledge that there is an intelligence and media-linked organization unbeholden to any of us, doing what they want to do by dirty tricks and propaganda.



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Monday, August 12, 2019 3:22 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Story time with SNIGLET.
"Some say..."
"I don't know for sure ..."
But lack of knowledge won't stop me from smearing people with speculation and innuendo...

Oh yeah, THIS from the guy who thought that Trump was a Russian puppet and who REPEATEDLY said that I was a Russian troll???

At least I point out that it's speculation. YOU, OTOH, repeat fables as if they were fact.

Oh and BTW, you repeatedly posted that I made money being a "Russian troll" and insinuated that I got my orders from the Kremlin. You then said that you "never believed" that I was a Russian troll. And later, you said you "corrected" your post.

So just OOC, which statement do you now disavow? The ones where you said I'm a paid Russian troll? Or the one where you said you never believed that I was? Yanno, just for legal purposes.




I swear, one of these days you're gonna hurt yourself making sh*t up.

Now Trump, I know he's a Russian Troll. You're just a big mouth @sshat.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

If Epstein was on suicide watch and committed suicide anyway, heads should roll. If Epstein WASN'T on suicide watch, heads should roll. How in holy hell does a guy in Federal custody, in the same jail where they held "El Chapo" Guzman before HIS trial, a promoter of dozens if not hundreds of criminal acts by the rich and powerful, wind up dead???

I'm not blaming the Clintons btw. They're not powerful enough to arrange for this guy's death. But there are people in our government and outside of it who make their living assassinating people. What makes you think they restrict their activities to foreign countries?

There is a war going on, CC. The spying on the Trump campaign, the WH/DOJ/FBI/CIA effort to implicate the guy in a false charge, the ongoing organized media campaign to smear him with an untruth, the involvement of MI6, Australian and Ukrainian governments to create this story, the constant false flags designed to derail his foreign policy .... surely you must be now realize there is embedded in ourgovernment (and others) and the media a group of people not under a shred of democratic control who are working to impose their policies on us whether we voted for it or not.

You may see it as a good thing ("the resistance" in government) and I see it as a bad thing, but either way we both should acknowledge that there is an intelligence and media-linked organization unbeholden to any of us, doing what they want to do by dirty tricks and propaganda.




Yup - they got those in Russia too, sweetie, even though you'll never admit it. Difference being Putin can disappear people in the way really dim people claim the Clintons have. And who do you suppose Putins Deep State wants to mess with?

So, can you think of any reason the Clintons have never been charged with any murders? Even civil action like in the OJ case, where it was so obvious as to their guilt - as so many republicans claim - that surviving relatives took action.

But with the Clintons nothing?

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Monday, August 12, 2019 3:29 PM

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A medium blog post

Maxwell is Mari?

https://medium.com/p/5819545bba24/

crazynights like q-anon cryptic

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Mari has proof of many of his old dealings, going back all the way to her own father’s era. Her father (a monster himself), had helped the oligarch in the late 80's-early 90’s. Her father who was murdered, despite findings of “suicide”. Her same father whose murder was alleged to be ordered by Russian oligarchs for his waste of tens of millions of their money he was supposed to be laundering. In fact, this Russian oligarch and Mari have many similar friends — in politics; Hollywood; and in sitting government positions today.

The Russian also knows that Mari is clever enough to be sure that if she meets an untimely demise? Much of that proof will certainly be made public. That would be a disaster for the Russian, and many of the most powerful people in politics (both sides of the aisle); global business, and entertainment/media. None of them want that.

Some have speculated that Mari’s father never actually died, by suicide nor by murder — and that some of his former associates in foreign government security services had helped arrange his disappearance. It is with that in mind that Mari has contacted this Russian lately. According to the Russian oligarch, there is no way she can make it out of her current situation in one piece. The best she can hope for is to arrange a “suicide” or “murder” of her own that will allow her to slip off the map undetected. She still has tens of millions of Monster’s money along with her own to help her vanish.

Because if she can’t do it? Many others will make sure she does die, for real.


The British Royals named, the Vatican maybe connecting, French models sent, and lot of Jews and Israeli but Eastern Europe ... too many russia oligarch to name ... who sticks out with the symbols, which models went tot he island?
Was there some Russian dude who wanted to gift Naomi Campbell a Babylon Masonic Horus-Eye Style Mansion/Lair

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Monday, August 12, 2019 3:51 PM

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But enough personal sniping for now.

Hmm, the Putin Stooges are a little sensitive that Bill Clinton prolly wouldn't have the pull to get him murdered, I mean, HE'S NOT THE PRESIDENT.

I wonder which person HAS an army of zombie-followers that would be happy to kill something that could take down their glorius

Don't let your brain explode - nobody needs to see your explosive diarrhea.

Most reasonable folk understand that the vast majority of Career Criminals are Democrats, and Libtards. Most reasonable folk understand that the Officers of Corrections, Prisons, Jails, etc are Union Members, and Unions support Democraps. And most folk understand that Manhattan is wallowing in on of the most corrupt hellholes the Democrats have been able to develop, including the District Attorneys, the Corrections Officials and supervisors, and almost anybody in and around NYC.
Too bad that BungBetty finds herself excluded from the "reasonable folk" category.

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Monday, August 12, 2019 3:53 PM

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Some say that Bill Clinton had deep connections with the CIA. Some say. Now, I don't know for sure whether he did or didn't, but I CAN say that his big policies were very VERY favorable to bankers and financialists, and played a large part in the Great Recession of 2008.

Signym, the Final Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and Economic Crisis of the United States calls you a blatant liar.
www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-FCIC/pdf/GPO-FCIC.pdf

According to the Final Report of the National Commission on the Causes of the Financial and Economic Crisis of the United States, between 2001 and 2007, mortgage debt rose nearly as much as it had in the whole rest of the nation's history. At about the same time, home prices doubled. Around the country, armies of mortgage salesmen hustled to get Americans to borrow more money for houses—or even just prospective houses. Many salesmen didn’t ask borrowers for proof of income, job or assets. Then the salesmen were gone, leaving behind a new debtor holding new keys and perhaps a faint suspicion that the deal was too good to be true.
www.history.com/news/2008-financial-crisis-causes

Signed by Ronald Reagan, the Gramm-Rudman Act was the real villain. It allowed banks to engage in trading profitable derivatives that they sold to investors. These mortgage-backed securities needed home loans as collateral. The derivatives created an insatiable demand for more and more mortgages.

Hedge funds and other financial institutions around the world owned the mortgage-backed securities. The securities were also in mutual funds, corporate assets, and pension funds. The banks had chopped up the original mortgages and resold them in tranches. That made the derivatives impossible to price.

Why did stodgy pension funds buy such risky assets? They thought an insurance product called credit default swaps protected them. A traditional insurance company known as the American International Group sold these swaps. When the derivatives lost value, AIG didn't have enough cash flow to honor all the swaps.

The first signs of the financial crisis appeared in 2007. Banks panicked when they realized they would have to absorb the losses. They stopped lending to each other. They didn't want other banks giving them worthless mortgages as collateral. No one wanted to get stuck holding the bag. As a result, interbank borrowing costs, called Libor, rose. This mistrust within the banking community was the primary cause of the 2008 financial crisis.
www.thebalance.com/2008-financial-crisis-3305679

Why can you never stay on topic?
Gramm-Rudman was an early attempt to Balance the Budget, despite Democraps demands to spend spend spend spend spend.

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Monday, August 12, 2019 3:59 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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But lack of knowledge won't stop me from smearing people with speculation and innuendo...

That's what you and your buddies do every time you call us 'Russians', you used asswipe. It's the theme you live by.

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Here It Is… Complete List of Clinton Associates Who Allegedly Died Mysteriously or Committed Suicide Before Testimony, Including Jeffrey Epstein

Jim Hoft August 11, 2019

On Saturday multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein, the highest profile prisoner in US custody, was found dead in his prison cell in Manhattan.

This occurred the day after two thousand previously sealed court documents involving the Jeffrey Epstein child sex abuse case were released to the public.

The documents described how Bill Clinton held a private party on Jeffrey Epstein’s pedophile island.

Clinton made at least 27 times trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s private plane. Most of those flights were with underage girls.
Despite a previous attempt on his life just three weeks ago the prison guards skipped the 30 minute required checks on Epstein’s cell last night.
Early this morning they found him dead.

Jeffrey Epstein is the latest in a long list of Clinton family associates and acquaintances who died mysteriously or committed suicide before their public testimony.

In 2016 CBS Las Vegas posted a list of Bill and Hillary Clinton associates alleged to have died under mysterious circumstances.

Here is that list.

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 heroes killed in Benghazi.
And today you can add multi-millionaire Jeffrey Epstein to the list.



I'm not saying that the Clintons had all of these people killed. I'm just saying that it's really unlucky to work with the Clintons

That is pretty soft-pedalling on the Ron Brown shooting. One of the pathologists had used the slides of the autopsy in lectures and symposiums showing how the bullet path through the brain was progressed, the bullet removed from the cranium of Ron Brown. This laste4d until one of the audience noticed that the name in the corner of the slides was Ron Brown, upon which the pathologist was transferred to someplace like Alaska - the Clinton coverup had not explained that facts were not allowed to be used in scientific discussion.
Ron Brown's aircraft impact injuries were all postmortem. Nobody else on the plane had died before the crash impact.

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Monday, August 12, 2019 6:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Is it gauche to find this funny?
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John McAfee
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@officialmcafee

I was stunned by Epstein's suicide, though probably not as much as Epstein himself.


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Monday, August 12, 2019 6:59 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Here's a wrinkle I hadn't considered ...
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What are the odds that Epstein's body gets misplaced? Or accidentally cremated?


As for the autopsy results being delayed, as far as I know they include "manner of death" and "cause of death".
"Manner of death" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manner_of_death

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In the United States, a manner of death is expressed as belonging to one classification of a group of six possible:[9][4][8]

Natural
Accident
Suicide
Homicide
Undetermined
Pending



I'd guess that's the hang-up.

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