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Sunday, February 25, 2024 5:15 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What we owe Ukraine is what we owe any non-allied nation: GTFO and leave them alone to sort out their own problems.

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Sunday, February 25, 2024 5:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2024 7:05 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What we owe Ukraine is what we owe any non-allied nation: GTFO and leave them alone to sort out their own problems.

Except for the obligation that WE created for ourselves.

It is America's fault that we elected the despicable BJ Clinton in 1992. Then the U.S. convinced or coerced Ukraine to give up their one Ace in the Hole - their Nuclear Weapons. This was their only source of power, their only threat to Russia.
America promised Ukraine that we would defend them, protect them from Russia. As long as they gave up their only Trump Card.

That held up until Obama reneged and left Russia invade Ukraine without complaint. And then forced Ukraine to fund Lord Darth Obiden's piggy bank.

So now Obama and Obiden force Ukraine to kickback millions whenever they send them cashy money, so that Obiden/Bama fund their piggy banks. "Aid" money is not going to the people of Ukraine, or to military weapons, only to the corrupt officials which Obama installed and bribed.

It is America's fault that Clinton, Obama, and Biden were "elected." Ukraine has been swaying in the wind all along, constantly being screwed by U.S.A.
The people of Ukraine have been getting the brunt of it. And we don't have any receipts for where any of the money is going, other than the bank accounts of the fake Biden code names which Congress is slowly examining.

I absolutely cannot fault the Ukrainian people. I am not even sure it would be fair to expect their "leaders" to withstand the onslaught of corruption that is the American Administrative apparatus, Libtards corrupt to the core.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2024 7:12 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. It's all a huge dark money laundering scheme.

It kind of blew up when SBF got arrested, but the Obama Media ran defense on that issue until everyone forgot about it.

It's fucking gross what the Obama Administration has done to American Journalism. But he wouldn't have been able to do it without all those Executive Orders that GWB signed in the name of "safety".



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Wednesday, March 13, 2024 8:27 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Yup. It's all a huge dark money laundering scheme.

6ix, if anybody let you know the Manhattan Project existed, you would have declared it a money laundering scheme dreamed up by Albert Einstein.

You don’t need to be an Einstein to know where Putin is going with his war in Ukraine. As a matter of fact, you would have to be a Trumptard not to know where Putin is going. Einstein knew where Hitler was going and got the Manhattan Project rolling, laundering billions of taxpayers' money:

The Einstein–Szilard letter asks FDR to nuke Germany
August 2, 1939

Szilard, Wigner and Edward Teller decide how to nuke Germany
October 1939

German Invasion of Poland
Sep 1, 1939 – Oct 6, 1939

German attack on Denmark
April 9, 1940

Battle of France/Start date
May 10, 1940

Battle of Dunkirk/Start date
May 26, 1940

Battle of Britain/Start date
July 10, 1940

Pearl Harbor attacked
December 7, 1941

German declaration of war against the United States
December 11, 1941

What was Hitler's reaction to Pearl Harbor?
Adolf Hitler applauded the attack and declared war on the United States even though the United States had only declared war against Japan. Before Pearl Harbor, many Americans maintained an isolationist stance and were reluctant to become involved in the war in Europe. Isolationists were the Trumptards of the 1930s.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2024 8:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Shut up, NeoCon Bushite trash.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2024 8:50 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Shut up, NeoCon Bushite trash.

6ix, Putin declared he would nuke the USA if it defends Ukraine. You being a Trumptard concluded that the USA should not defend Ukraine because you feared the consequences. Fear and cowardice are the main driving forces for Trumptards. Greed and miserliness are the other forces in a Trumptard's life.

Putin again threatens to use nuclear weapons, claims Russia's arsenal "much more" advanced than America's
Updated on: March 13, 2024 / 6:29 AM EDT
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/putin-nuclear-weapons-new-threat-claim-ru
ssia-nuclear-arsenal-better-us
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Wednesday, March 13, 2024 10:06 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Shut up, NeoCon Bushite trash.

6ix, Putin declared he would nuke the USA if it defends Ukraine. You being a Trumptard concluded that the USA should not defend Ukraine because you feared the consequences.



You're the one always posting about how nuclear armageddon is coming, Nancy.

I don't give one single fuck about nukes. Nuke away.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2024 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You're the one always posting about how nuclear armageddon is coming, Nancy.

I don't give one single fuck about nukes. Nuke away.

Majority of Trump Republicans Prefer the United States Stay out of World Affairs

https://globalaffairs.org/research/public-opinion-survey/majority-trum
p-republicans-prefer-united-states-stay-out-world


For the first time in the nearly 50-year history of the Chicago Council Survey, a majority of Republicans in 2023 said it would be best for the future of the United States to stay out of — rather than take an active part in — in world affairs. This reflects a major shift in public opinion since 2015, when GOP supporters were more likely than Democrats to favor an active role abroad. What's driving the drop in support? A closer look at the data reveals “Trump Republicans,” which make up 47 percent of Republican Party supporters, are much more negative than other “non-Trump Republicans” about the US global role in general, US alliances with Europe, and defending allies.

In case you missed the point, Trumptards are only 47% of Republicans. That bodes poorly for Trump if his behavior becomes more noxious the closer to the election. The “non-Trump Republicans” will decide not to vote for either obnoxious, crazy Trump or elderly Biden.

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Thursday, March 14, 2024 8:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You do have a point there.

Democrats are no longer Democrats.

They appeal to Communists on one side and NeoCon Bushite trash on the other.

I can see Republicans who used to walk around all day with War boners voting for your guy. The ones that love war so much and are so boned up that they don't mind the pink haired commie trannies grooming the kids in the local school, or their own wide-open purposefully unguarded border, or the insane price of everything.

Meanwhile, I'll be voting with the blacks and legal immigrants against Joe Biden*.

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Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:27 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You do have a point there.

Democrats are no longer Democrats.

They appeal to Communists on one side and NeoCon Bushite trash on the other.

I can see Republicans who used to walk around all day with War boners voting for your guy. The ones that love war so much and are so boned up that they don't mind the pink haired commie trannies grooming the kids in the local school, or their own wide-open purposefully unguarded border, or the insane price of everything.

Meanwhile, I'll be voting with the blacks and legal immigrants against Joe Biden*.

Trumptards Are Still Oblivious to Russia's Information War

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/03/09/russia-putin-disinformation-propa
ganda-hybrid-war
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Writing about Trumptards: What is undoubtedly new is a polarized Western public’s (Trumptard) enthusiasm for re-centering its own identity around Moscow’s narratives—and becoming an unwitting weapon in the information war. Take, for example, the QAnon movement, whose supporters have long gathered critical energy from talking points supplied and amplified by Moscow through social media. QAnon supporters espouse a range of grievances familiar from Russian propaganda: anti-LGBTQ+, anti-liberal, and especially anti-Ukraine sentiments. QAnon channels on the messaging app Telegram, for example, rapidly turned into fora for anti-Ukraine and pro-war sentiment.

While ordinary users (Trumptards) are certain that they are merely speaking their minds, a domestic policy issue has ultimately turned into a vehicle for Moscow to exert influence over national security decisions.

Read the article here: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64887&mid=11895
98#1189598


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Thursday, March 14, 2024 9:58 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Fuck off with your Russia bullshit. I'm done with you on this issue, brainlet.

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Thursday, March 14, 2024 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck off with your Russia bullshit. I'm done with you on this issue, brainlet.

You repeat Russian propaganda as if it were your original thoughts. This is your problem, but you are blind to it. You were blind to your drunkenness and lost more than a decade of life, and your health, to alcohol. Blindness is your way of life to avoid thinking about how much time you wasted.

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Thursday, March 14, 2024 11:03 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck off with your Russia bullshit. I'm done with you on this issue, brainlet.

You repeat Russian propaganda as if it were your original thoughts.



No. I don't.

I don't consume anything about Russia. Not from you. Not from your news sources. Not from anybody.

Quote:

This is your problem, but you are blind to it. You were blind to your drunkenness and lost more than a decade of life, and your health, to alcohol. Blindness is your way of life to avoid thinking about how much time you wasted.


People change. People can improve themselves. I'm always doing that.

I'm not going to lie and say I don't have regrets for how I chose to live my life in the past, but I'm always looking forward now.

You are a static character. You have always been a piece of shit, and apparently this is how you intend to live the rest of your life.

I hope something changes your mind like it did mine.

In the meantime, you are a very sick individual that needs external help because you do not appear to have the mental fortitude within you to help yourself.

Good luck to you.

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Friday, March 15, 2024 1:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What we owe Ukraine is what we owe any non-allied nation: GTFO and leave them alone to sort out their own problems.

JSF: Except for the obligation that WE created for ourselves.

It is America's fault that we elected the despicable BJ Clinton in 1992. Then the U.S. convinced or coerced Ukraine to give up their one Ace in the Hole - their Nuclear Weapons. This was their only source of power, their only threat to Russia.
America promised Ukraine that we would defend them, protect them from Russia. As long as they gave up their only Trump Card.

That held up until Obama reneged and left Russia invade Ukraine without complaint. And then forced Ukraine to fund Lord Darth Obiden's piggy bank.

So now Obama and Obiden force Ukraine to kickback millions whenever they send them cashy money, so that Obiden/Bama fund their piggy banks. "Aid" money is not going to the people of Ukraine, or to military weapons, only to the corrupt officials which Obama installed and bribed.

It is America's fault that Clinton, Obama, and Biden were "elected." Ukraine has been swaying in the wind all along, constantly being screwed by U.S.A.
The people of Ukraine have been getting the brunt of it. And we don't have any receipts for where any of the money is going, other than the bank accounts of the fake Biden code names which Congress is slowly examining.

I absolutely cannot fault the Ukrainian people. I am not even sure it would be fair to expect their "leaders" to withstand the onslaught of corruption that is the American Administrative apparatus, Libtards corrupt to the core.



Well, yes. And no.
There's more than corruption going on. There are also rabid neocons making decisions, and altho they promised Russia "not one inch eastward" they had no intention of keeping that promise either. They not only didn't protect Ukraine, they deliberately threw it into Russia's teeth. Russian leaders call Americans "not agreement capable" which pretty much sums up our MO of making all kinds of promises and keeping none of them. Which is why Kissinger said ....

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Friday, March 15, 2024 6:53 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Fuck off with your Russia bullshit. I'm done with you on this issue, brainlet.

You repeat Russian propaganda as if it were your original thoughts.



No. I don't.

I don't consume anything about Russia. Not from you. Not from your news sources. Not from anybody.

Quote:

This is your problem, but you are blind to it. You were blind to your drunkenness and lost more than a decade of life, and your health, to alcohol. Blindness is your way of life to avoid thinking about how much time you wasted.


People change. People can improve themselves. I'm always doing that.

I'm not going to lie and say I don't have regrets for how I chose to live my life in the past, but I'm always looking forward now.

You are a static character. You have always been a piece of shit, and apparently this is how you intend to live the rest of your life.

I hope something changes your mind like it did mine.

In the meantime, you are a very sick individual that needs external help because you do not appear to have the mental fortitude within you to help yourself.

Good luck to you.

You are like every Trumptard I know: stingy and selfish. Unfortunately, you cut years from your life by carrying stinginess too far and stopping even maintaining yourself. You let your teeth rot and stopped emptying the trash, but then you had a revelation when Trump arrived. You went to the dentist. You de-hoarded the garage. That leaves you the same but at least you are not killing yourself from neglect. Instead, you turned into a full-blooded Nazi filled with energy. In other words, you started regularly flushing your toilet rather than letting it stink up your own house but you still shit on everybody who isn't your kind. Politically that means you'd let Europe die, starting with Ukraine being conquered by Russia. You'd let South Korea die, conquered by North Korea. You'd let Taiwan die, conquered by China. You'd justify being an asshole by repeating the phrase "America owes fill-in-the-blank nothing". You have taken a side: Russia's. In the future, if Russia conquers Ukraine, you would take North Korea's side against South Korea or China's against Taiwan.

Historically, Trumptard behavior is very predictable. Republicans took Germany's side against England in WWII (until Hitler forced Republicans to switch sides). To Republicans, it was "America Owes England Nothing" while London was being blitzed. But Hitler declaring war on America and sinking American cargo ships turned the Republicans against Hitler.

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Friday, March 15, 2024 10:40 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, YOU shit on everybody who isn't your kind.

Just re-read your own post. Don't you ever listen to yourself ? Acknowledge who you are and what you do??

You justify your horrible behavior by claiming that you take care of your body, pay your taxes, and you're rich.

Wow, that's an exceedingly narrow base for your claimed superiority. It doesn't excuse the fact that you are a mean, stingy, self-centered, narcissistic, psychopathic liar, and nearly everything you accuse others of is projection.

Have a nice day.

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Friday, March 15, 2024 10:55 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And now for some news.

Ukraine, despite NATO's help, is getting pushed back along the entire active front.

In an acknowledgment that Kiev is losing the conventional war, Ukrainian forces sent swarms of drones and rockets over their northern border into Russia, aiming mostly at soft (i.e civilian) targets in Moscow, Leningrad, Belgorod, Kursk, Bryansk, Tula and Oryol.

They hit and damaged an oil refinery (which IMHO is a legitimate target) but worryingly they also aimed at a nuclear power plant in Rostov. In the past, Kiev has also threatened the Zaparozhiy nuclear power plant.

Ukraine also has nuclear power plants, but that's one target the Russians have strictly avoided. I don't think Ukraine should play chicken with nuclear power plants 'cause that's a game they'd lose.

In any case, Ukraine followed up that drone and rocket attack with an actual attempted incursion in two places. Both, accirdung to Military Summary Channel, were repelled leading to heavy Ukrainian losses.


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Friday, March 15, 2024 11:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. I'm done listening to Second about pretty much everything.

He's beyond triggered now because after years of Media lies he's finally figured out that Trump will be fine and he will be his next President and he's lashing out like a little baby about it.

If I choose to engage further it will only be to trigger Reaverfan into taking off his Second mask and make the replies that got his other handle banned off fff.net.

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Friday, March 15, 2024 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. I'm done listening to Second about pretty much everything.

He's beyond triggered now because after years of Media lies he's finally figured out that Trump will be fine and he will be his next President and he's lashing out like a little baby about it.

If I choose to engage further it will only be to trigger Reaverfan into taking off his Second mask and make the replies that got his other handle banned off fff.net.

1). A brief investigation of 6ixStringJack's mental health brings up this:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Hey Sigs...

My GAD65 is still off the charts, but it was a 48% decrease. I don't have the numbers right in front of me but it's something like a reduction from 523 units/mL to 273. (With 0 to 5 being the normal range).

Do you know anything about this or know somebody who does?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11896
29#1189629


If I Google the word GAD65: https://www.google.com/search?q=GAD65

Conclusion: 6ixStringJack is out of his mind.

2). A brief investigation of Trump's mental health brings up this:

'It's perverse': Psychologist hits media for 'normalizing' Trump & 'pathologizing' Biden
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/it-s-perverse-psychologist-hit
s-media-for-normalizing-trump-pathologizing-biden/ar-BB1jU40G


“Not enough people are sounding the alarm, that based on his behavior, and in my opinion, Donald Trump is dangerously demented," Gartner said. "In fact, we are seeing the opposite among too many in the news media, the political leaders and among the public."

Gartner argues the media has fallen victim to the false equivalence fallacy that equates Trump's mental disorders with President Joe Biden's process of aging.

"This is a tale of two brains," Gartner said. "Biden's brain is aging. Trump's brain is dementing.”

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Friday, March 15, 2024 12:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. I'm done listening to Second about pretty much everything.

He's beyond triggered now because after years of Media lies he's finally figured out that Trump will be fine and he will be his next President and he's lashing out like a little baby about it.

If I choose to engage further it will only be to trigger Reaverfan into taking off his Second mask and make the replies that got his other handle banned off fff.net.

1). A brief investigation of 6ixStringJack's mental health brings up this:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Hey Sigs...

My GAD65 is still off the charts, but it was a 48% decrease. I don't have the numbers right in front of me but it's something like a reduction from 523 units/mL to 273. (With 0 to 5 being the normal range).

Do you know anything about this or know somebody who does?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11896
29#1189629


If I Google the word GAD65: https://www.google.com/search?q=GAD65

Conclusion: 6ixStringJack is out of his mind.



Oh. Please do go on, Dr. Reaverfan.



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Friday, March 15, 2024 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Oh. Please do go on, Dr. Reaverfan.

6ix, you can't hold a paying job, so who is paying for your healthcare? Not Republicans. That I'm pretty sure of.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Friday, March 15, 2024 12:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. I'm done listening to Second about pretty much everything.

He's beyond triggered now because after years of Media lies he's finally figured out that Trump will be fine and he will be his next President and he's lashing out like a little baby about it.

If I choose to engage further it will only be to trigger Reaverfan into taking off his Second mask and make the replies that got his other handle banned off fff.net.

1). A brief investigation of 6ixStringJack's mental health brings up this:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Hey Sigs...

My GAD65 is still off the charts, but it was a 48% decrease. I don't have the numbers right in front of me but it's something like a reduction from 523 units/mL to 273. (With 0 to 5 being the normal range).

Do you know anything about this or know somebody who does?

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11896
29#1189629


If I Google the word GAD65: https://www.google.com/search?q=GAD65

Conclusion: 6ixStringJack is out of his mind.



Oh. Please do go on, Dr. Reaverfan.




Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Oh. Please do go on, Dr. Reaverfan.

6ix, you can't hold a paying job, so who is paying for your healthcare? Not Republicans. That I'm pretty sure of.



That's not a legitimate reply.

I want to know more about your diagnosis, Dr. Reaverfan.

Please explain to the class what you've come up with and how you derived that conclusion.



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Friday, March 15, 2024 1:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yes, I'd like to see how Second came to that conclusion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3411186/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28063151/

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Friday, March 15, 2024 2:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, I'd like to see how Second came to that conclusion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3411186/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28063151/

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He will ignore the topic and won't go back to it because he's an idiot "headline reader" and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

He Googled GAD65 and saw the stuff about Neurological issues and automatically applied that to my case when it has nothing to do with LADA.

When I said my numbers were "off the charts" that's pertaining only to the GAD65 numbers that people get due to LADA Diabetes. And honestly I don't even know if that's even true that I'm "off the charts". My 523/273 numbers might be quite high for LADA, or they could be quite low compared to other people with LADA. I haven't found any info regarding that at all so far, and the doctors so far have been completely unhelpful.

Anybody who has Neurological disorders like encephalitis have a FAR GREATER amount of GAD65 floating around in their blood.

Also, it's not the GAD65 that causes neurological disorders or Diabetes. They are simply a byproduct of those issues.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/glutamate-
decarboxylase-65


Quote:

Seizures and General Medical Disorders

Simon M. Glynn, Jack M. Parent, in Aminoff's Neurology and General Medicine (Sixth Edition), 2021
Diabetes and GAD65 Antibodies

Antibodies to glutamic acid decarboxylase 65-kDa isoform(GAD65) have been found in 2 to 3 percent of adults and 6 to 7 percent of children with chronic epilepsy. GAD65 antibodies also occur in 80 percent of patients with type 1 diabetes (and interestingly, epilepsy is increased in this population compared with controls). Very high titers of GAD65 antibodies are seen in patients with seizures in the context of limbic encephalitis. Compared with GAD65 antibodies in epilepsy or in patients with diabetes, patients with limbic encephalitis have substantially higher titers of serum antibodies (~100 to 1,000 times higher), and the antibodies are detectable in CSF. Patients with epilepsy and GAD65 antibodies show a poor response to immunotherapy and tend to be refractory to medical treatment.



So yeah... My "off the charts" 523 reduced to 273 is nothing. I've also never had a seizure in my life. Somebody who had encephalitis and saw such a reduction as mine would have started with 52,300 to 523,000 and saw it reduced to 27,300 to 273,000.

Reaverfan is a fucking idiot that needs to learn to keep its mouth shut and stop crapping up all the boards with its pathetic personal attacks in lieu of any thoughts that are even worth the time or energy expressing.

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Friday, March 15, 2024 2:36 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


RRAVERFAN demonstrates idiocy with nearly every post, and contradicts himself every other time.

And on the rare occasion that he's correct, it's accidental.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That's not a legitimate reply.

I want to know more about your diagnosis, Dr. Reaverfan.

Please explain to the class what you've come up with and how you derived that conclusion.

It is not surprising that you won't answer because you are getting free healthcare from the Democrats, whom you hate for ideological reasons: Trump hates Obamacare/Obama/Social Security/FDR/Medicaid/LBJ so you hate them. Same explanation for why you write Americans Owe Ukraine Nothing/Zelenskyy is criminal: Trump hates Ukraine/Zelenskyy so you hate them. Hovering over every hatred Trumptards have are their illnesses. 6ix and Signym discuss their illnesses and are natural-born whiners that the government isn't doing enough free stuff for them because the free money is being sent to Ukraine instead of to them.

Trust me, I'm a doctor
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Friday, March 15, 2024 7:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What we owe Ukraine is what we owe any non-allied nation: GTFO and leave them alone to sort out their own problems.

SIGNYM






They are our ally. And they gave up their nukes because we said if attacked we would come to their aid. By the way, Russia made the same deal with them. And yes, Russia signed that agreement on the dotted line.

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U.S. House Speaker Anticipates Democratic Support for Ukrainian Aid Legislation

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Friday, March 15, 2024 8:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yes, I'd like to see how Second came to that conclusion.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3411186/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28063151/

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM





He will ignore the topic and won't go back to it because he's an idiot "headline reader" and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.

He Googled GAD65 and saw the stuff about Neurological issues and automatically applied that to my case when it has nothing to do with LADA.

When I said my numbers were "off the charts" that's pertaining only to the GAD65 numbers that people get due to LADA Diabetes. And honestly I don't even know if that's even true that I'm "off the charts". My 523/273 numbers might be quite high for LADA, or they could be quite low compared to other people with LADA. I haven't found any info regarding that at all so far, and the doctors so far have been completely unhelpful.

Anybody who has Neurological disorders like encephalitis have a FAR GREATER amount of GAD65 floating around in their blood.

Also, it's not the GAD65 that causes neurological disorders or Diabetes. They are simply a byproduct of those issues.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/glutamate-
decarboxylase-65


Quote:

Seizures and General Medical Disorders

Simon M. Glynn, Jack M. Parent, in Aminoff's Neurology and General Medicine (Sixth Edition), 2021
Diabetes and GAD65 Antibodies

Antibodies to glutamic acid decarboxylase 65-kDa isoform(GAD65) have been found in 2 to 3 percent of adults and 6 to 7 percent of children with chronic epilepsy. GAD65 antibodies also occur in 80 percent of patients with type 1 diabetes (and interestingly, epilepsy is increased in this population compared with controls). Very high titers of GAD65 antibodies are seen in patients with seizures in the context of limbic encephalitis. Compared with GAD65 antibodies in epilepsy or in patients with diabetes, patients with limbic encephalitis have substantially higher titers of serum antibodies (~100 to 1,000 times higher), and the antibodies are detectable in CSF. Patients with epilepsy and GAD65 antibodies show a poor response to immunotherapy and tend to be refractory to medical treatment.



So yeah... My "off the charts" 523 reduced to 273 is nothing. I've also never had a seizure in my life. Somebody who had encephalitis and saw such a reduction as mine would have started with 52,300 to 523,000 and saw it reduced to 27,300 to 273,000.

Reaverfan is a fucking idiot that needs to learn to keep its mouth shut and stop crapping up all the boards with its pathetic personal attacks in lieu of any thoughts that are even worth the time or energy expressing.

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