Firefly Conversion Help by Zeek

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Firefly Conversion Help

POSTED BY: ZEEK
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 21, 2004 05:51
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Monday, December 13, 2004 7:41 AM

I've found converting people to Firefly fans to be semi-difficult. Usually the hard part is to get them to actually sit down and watch the show though. The first 3 people I got to that stage became fans no problem. Usually it takes until Shindig to really set in though.

Now I've tried with two people and it's just not working. They talk through every episode and miss all the funny parts and plot points and then rip on the show because they think it makes no sense. I finally got them to Shindig and that failed miserably. They thought it was one of the worst episodes because there was no killing. Are there some people just not made for Firefly? Are my friends actually FOX executives? Is there some technique I should use? How do I get them to sit down and actually watch rather than talk the whole time (any preschool teachers out there?)?

Any help would be great cause I'm ready to give up on these two.

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Monday, December 13, 2004 8:18 AM

BADGERSHAT

Obviously, your friends are die-hard followers of the New Evil, which is also known to many as "Reality Television." Persons who follow this heinous path are incapable of following a plot, incapable of seeing character development, and incapable of more than 10 lines of dialogue between commercial breaks.

My advice to you is, try one last time, smacking them about the head every time their attention wanders. If this doesn't work, turn on FOX and walk away, because they've obviously been lost...

--Jefé The Hat

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Monday, December 13, 2004 8:22 AM

REGINAROADIE

Well, when it comes to converting people to shows that you like, it helps if the person you're converting is into the same kind of stuff. If the two nuts that are hard to crack arn't sci-fi fans, then they'll be tougher. But the way I figured out how to convert someone green is through small portions.

For example, there is a girl I sit next to in Art History class. I strike up a conversation with her and casually mention FIREFLY and even quote some dialouge from it (I used Wash's intro scene with the plastic dinosaurs). I rave about it and then tell her that I can bring it for her. I bring her the first disc in the set and say "Just watch the first few episodes of this. If you don't like it, fine. But if you do, I can bring some more." and just left it in her hands to discover the show. And I'm happy to say that she was converted, and I think a few of her roomies were as well.

It's the same policy that I use when I converted two of my roomates onto 24 (huge fan of the show, and it does have 3 FIREFLY links) and one of the two onto ARRESTE DEVELOPMENT.

But if they still are chatty folk, just tell them to shut up.

"NO HAI ES BANDAI. THERE IS....NO.....BAND. AND YET....WE HEAR A BAND."

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Monday, December 13, 2004 8:51 AM

GORRAMREAVERS

I had leant out the first 2 disks when a friend came over. I wanted him to see some Firefly so I showed him "Out of Gas". He was hooked in the teaser!
He now insists that if I show Firefly to a new person, show em "Out of Gas" first. I think watching a later episode will dilute the suspence of the first episode (mainly Simon), but it just might hook the ones that are hard to catch.

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Monday, December 13, 2004 8:51 AM

GORRAMREAVERS

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Monday, December 13, 2004 10:41 AM

JAYNESTOWNCITIZEN

I think if they want action, Shindig isn't the best place to start. In the pilot, Mal caps a horse and a federale` in the span of a few minutes.

Out of Gas is a great starter episode. It has everything: Sex! Violence! Natural disasters! Flashbacks! Reversals! Non-Linear Storytelling!

I actually didn't get into Firefly until Our Mrs. Reynolds, so it might take some people some time.

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Monday, December 13, 2004 11:25 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by JaynestownCitizen:
I think if they want action, Shindig isn't the best place to start. In the pilot, Mal caps a horse and a federale` in the span of a few minutes.

Out of Gas is a great starter episode. It has everything: Sex! Violence! Natural disasters! Flashbacks! Reversals! Non-Linear Storytelling!

I actually didn't get into Firefly until Our Mrs. Reynolds, so it might take some people some time.

While Out of Gas is one of my favorites I think Shindig is a good early episode.

I have had these two watch the shows in order. How else can the "Kaylee's dead" joke really work for people? They just have a terrible attention span or something. For instance on Bushwacked the girl asked me what ever happened to the "cop guy" who was on the ship. I was like, "you mean the guy mal shot in the head? He got shot in the head". I mean how can you miss things like this? Granted it happened quickly but still.

Argh it's just so frustrating to find out there really are people who can't appreciate a good show like Firefly.

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Monday, December 13, 2004 2:45 PM

NWUKSTEVE

Whilst I agree that 'Out Of Gas' is one of the best episodes, I don't see how it could be considered a good 'starter' episode. You really need to 'know' the characters to appreciate a lot of the stuff in it.

To convert people who weren't grabbed by 'Serenity' or 'The Train Job', I agree with JAYNESTOWNCITIZEN. Try 'Our Mrs Reynolds'. Of course, I have no empirical evidence whatsoever to support this hypothesis.

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 5:16 AM

NYWOE

These 2 will probably jump on the bandwagon when the movie is a huge blockbuster, and you can just sit and be smug.

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 7:46 AM

BLINKER

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Originally posted by BadgersHat:
Obviously, your friends are die-hard followers of the New Evil, which is also known to many as "Reality Television."

But... Reality TV doesn't have any killing either!

(At least until the 72,544,816 ½ stories, novels and movies to predict reality shows with killing come true. And we all know they will.)

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Thursday, December 16, 2004 10:13 AM

ZEEK

Well I've basically decided they are a lost cause. It makes me sad to know that there are some people out there who can't appreciate Firefly.

Especially when the rest of us browncoats can find so much joy in just watching the episodes over and over and over.

Well hopefully they'll still go see the movie. Though if I end up in the same showing as them I'll have to sit very far away. Even watching Firefly with their constant talking and their commentary that butchers the actual plot and ideas. (i.e. saying Safe was about a ship with ghosts and zombies on it that was attacked by aliens) Seriously they say stuff like that.

Bah I'll just have to find others to convert before Serenity comes out. My misison next week is to work on my family when I'm home for Christmas. It's funny how no matter where I travel I always pack my Firefly DVDs with me just in case.

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:45 PM

SOUPCATCHER

I've found the best way to convert someone who is a rampant talker is to make sure they watch it alone. So far the only way I've found to do that is to wait until they're sick and going to be staying at home in bed all day and then loan them the first DVD.

Of course, you could speed things along by making SURE they get really sick but that might be pushing the whole conversion thing too hard. Then again, there are schools of thought that say there's no such thing

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There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

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Monday, December 20, 2004 3:30 AM

PSYCHICRIVER

Hmm....it sounds like the three of you watch together? How about you separate them? Watch episodes with just one of them, at a time. That might cut out the talking - as it's not like you'll talk back to them.

Last night I took my first shot at converting someone. It went okay, she was already a Buffy/Angel fan, which I found promising. We watched "Serenity" and "Ariel". Thats all we had time for, but she liked it.

If possible, the method I would recommend is to show them "Serenity", "The Train Job", "Our Mrs Reynolds", "Out Of Gas" and "Ariel" in as close proximity as possible. Preferably all back to back. Let them just watch it with you, work on one person at a time, no more....Then don't show them anything for a week! And hopefully Firefly would have been suzzing round their head for a week, and they'll be dying for more!

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."

"We can take care of each other. I'll knit!"

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Monday, December 20, 2004 4:55 AM

NYWOE

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Of course, you could speed things along by making SURE they get really sick

LOL, I think that may be a BIT too fanatical. And immoral. And illegal.

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Tuesday, December 21, 2004 5:51 AM

CYBERSNARK

So?

We're talking about a show with thieves, fugitives, and a prostitute. Be creative.

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