ZOID PLEASE STOP THE TROLLING by MynameisJonas

We know that's you, z

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:08 AM

CYBERSNARK

Quote:
Originally posted by MynameisJonas:
some kind of humour that went extinct in the 50s.

Y'mean the good kind?

*still thinks the Marx Bros. are the finest comedy troupe that ever existed*

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 11:56 AM

As far as I am concerned, Zoid can post whatever he wants, whenever he wants, as long as he wants.

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 2:02 PM

MniJ wrote:

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*snip*

Just leaving in the intelligent parts...

For those who disagreed with MniJ's assessment, thank you. There are times when I agree with his assessment; but I reckon I've got as much right to stand on a soap box, vent, and harass the passersby as the next person. This place is good therapy for me: Intelligent people discussing topics I love (music, drama, social sciences). I do try to treat others with the respect and admiration they deserve. ...Even those whose opinions I disagree with.

The only time I make an exception to this rule is when someone is intentionally rude, like: "Southern accents are definately (sic) not cool", or otherwise denigrates fans of Firefly. ...On a site dedicated to fans of Firefly (hello?). Then I can get a little ungracious, and I'm not particularly apologetic about it. Believe it or not, there are some people hereabouts who take their love of Firefly seriously; I will not stand idly by and see them abused.

Attack my logic, my ethics or my sense of humor if you wish. If any of it sounds like 'reason', I'll debate you. But if you're just here trying p*ss into the community watering hole, well, we got a whole different problem there... I don't think you'll find many on FFFn that will tolerate someone slandering Firefly or Joss Whedon, let alone join you.

Mildly Amused,

zoid

P.S.
I am definitely not MniJ, P'Belly. ...but I was in the 6th grade once, which means MniJ should at least be three times better at that than me. (NB: In the 70's, we used to call that kind of humor a 'cut'.)

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 2:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
I am definitely not MniJ

I thought the reference to commers might be a memory of your days in the British Isles and the vehicle manufacturer of that name.

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 2:47 PM

ANOTHERFIREFLYFAN

I've found your posts to be very insightful myself. And I agree with what you've said. Don't listen to that troll. (Although it was amusing to see a screen full of vomit smilies all at once)

~AFf

Keep flying

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:04 PM

'Belly:

I don't remember a 'Commers' vehicle maker; but I still take a rash of sh*t for naming my son after my favorite place on Earth, the capital of Texas. All my English relations are scandalized that I named him after an economy car.

v/r,
-zed

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:31 PM

TETHYS

I agree with her "Licious-ness", Zoid can post whatever he wants....he cracks me up all the time, so that's fine with me!

Okay, this post is edited, sorry zoid. Zoid is a man, baby! Yea! (sorry for the austin powers knockoff)

"Your mouth is talking. Might wanna see to that"

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:34 PM

AnotherFireflyfan:

Yeah, I thought MniJ's post was kinda cute, too. And like I said, I tend to agree with him: I use a lot of complex sentences ('to many commers'), my reasoning can be convoluted (ask Mmmm-a-licious), and my often perverse sense of humor may not be appreciated by all. Guilty on all counts.

But I don't think I've ever intentionally put someone down, unless they've asked for it by being insulting to the fans on this site. I don't think I'm 'a hater', even if I am -- help me out here 'Lish -- 'twisted', 'convoluted' and with lots of 'cul-de-sacs' in my brainpan. I consider those descriptions my endearing traits.

Y'all could always take a poll. If the majority of the people (who have been registered for at least a month or so, to avoid manipulation of the results) on FFFn don't think I'm adding anything to the discussions and want me to leave, I'll go, and no hard feelings... Lurkers encouraged to de-cloak and participate. If the vote is 1-0 that I should vacate, I'll lose the site's address, forthwith.

Curiously,

zoid

P.S.
Thanks sincerely, 'Jonas! I got my own thread, and it's way more exciting than Mal-licious'. Mine is life-or-death, just the way I like it!

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:41 PM

tethys wrote:

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...Zoid can post whatever she wants....she cracks me up all the time, so that's fine with me!

So, since you know I'm a guy, do we count that as a 'Go' vote?

v/r,
-zed

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:45 PM

ANOTHERFIREFLYFAN

This isn't some crappy reality show, we don't vote whether people stay or go. And it would be all of our losses if you left.

Keep flying

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 4:02 PM

AnotherFireflyfan wrote:

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This isn't some crappy reality show, we don't vote whether people stay or go. And it would be all of our losses if you left.

Keep flying

Yeah, but I don't want to be that guy at the party that everyone wishes would leave, either. You know the one...

So we count you as a 'Stay' vote?

v/r,
-zed

P.S.
On the other hand, I agree with you: I would vote 'Stay' for everyone, no matter how annoying I personally found them. 'Differing viewpoints', y'know? I wouldn't ever ask anyone to leave, just to be cognizant that this is a Firefly fansite.

Still, I think this'll be fun and enlightening, regardless the outcome, don't you?

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 4:51 PM

MONTANAGIRL

Zoid was kind enough to teach me how to edit my posts so I didn't look like an idiot when I couldn't figure out how to use the underline function properly. He's okay in my book. (And there were no convoluted, run-on sentences involved

)

Packer fans welcome.
All others tolerated.

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:10 PM

DTUCK

Free will is a bit of a double-edged blade, and whilst some may use it for purposes less than nice... Zoid is not one of those people.

I find Zoid's posts interesting and thought provoking.

So, if we are to copy the lowest form of humor (read Reality Programming) and 'voting'...

I vote... *drumroll for (failed) dramatic effect*

Stay.

*crowd gasps, fast cutscenes between my face, Zoid's, and MniJ's*

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The best way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it.

- Oscar Wilde

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 5:18 PM

GUILDSISTER

FWIW, I like Zoid.

Liked Zoid's fanfic. Liked an email I got. First person here to get that "Guildsister" is a Dune ref.

Guildsister

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:26 PM

EMBERS

I'm definitely voting (altho I agree that votes are NOT necessary)
for Zoid staying....!

but I think MyNameIsJonah should stay too,
to enjoy firefly
and learn to enjoy Zoid's own unique style & humor

Peace & love you guys!

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:38 PM

POTEMKINVILLAGER

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
I'm definitely voting (altho....

I gots just eenuf controle of my eegoe so artiklit guise like Zoyd I think ar like, y'noe, way cool! And he sumtimes sez meening full stuff about firefly, so, like, I like stuff like that when I trole this sight, eh?

(Oh, man, did I just get sukked intoo a stoopid thred?) O whel, nun of it meenz a dam think.

--The trouble with worse is that it seems normal.--"

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:38 PM

THEPLAGUE

Since someone mentioned the Marx brothers, I think this topic should be about them instead of whatever it's about at the moment.

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Are these our lives? NNNOOOOOO!!!

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:39 PM

POTEMKINVILLAGER

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Saturday, December 18, 2004 7:41 PM

POTEMKINVILLAGER

I be a shaymed by da dubbil poste....

--The trouble with worse is that it seems normal.--"

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 4:38 AM

If ANYONE votes for Zoid to leave, I vow to TRIPPLE the hijackings---but in a BAD way. And we all know no one wants that, right?

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 5:09 AM

You know, that's almost temppting

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 5:40 AM

SIMONWHO

Zoid, there's a pot on line two, wanting to call you black.

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 6:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by PurpleBelly:
You know, that's almost temppting

You think THAT was tempting? I ALMOST said "If Zoid goes, I go!!!" But I was afraid it would be too enticing and thereby cause everyone to do it.

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 6:46 AM

I consider this thread hijacked

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 6:53 AM

'Lishus wrote:

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You think THAT was tempting? I ALMOST said "If Zoid goes, I go!!!" But I was afraid it would be too enticing and thereby cause everyone to 'do it'.
(Addition of last single quotes zoid's, thereby making Mal's post suggestive, even though she was 'innocent' of such intent)

Yeah, wouldn't want to turn this into an 'Adam and Eve' thing, in an orgy of 'Get thee out of the Garden' votes. Now, where did that serpent get to? There it is, under Mmmm-a-licious' seat, in the HUMMER. (I told you to hang on to that flashlight.)

Salaciously,

zoid
Publican, "The Bottom of the Tree"

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:07 AM

Hey, folks:

Did anyone notice that MniJ, the thread's originator, has altered his opening shot? Just thought y'all might like to re-read it, and check out his new and improved sentiments...

v/r,
-zed

P.S.
Here they are, for posterity's sake, lest they change again:
MynameisJonas wrote:

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where would we be with out zoids down to earth street smarts quick wits and rugged good looks.

UNDER THE CONTROL OF COMMUNIST NAZIS WHO WANT TO IMPREGNATE WOMEN WITHOUT MARRYING THEM THEN FORCE THEM TO HAVE ABORTIONS THEN USE THE STEM CELLS FROM THE ABORTED FETUSES TO CLONE HOMOSEXUALS AND EMPLOY THEM AS TEACHERS TO TEACH THE CHILDREN HOW TO BE GAY ALL WHILE WATCHING MIND DESTROYING REALITY TV THATS WHERE,

sure zoids called me a child after every post i ever made, but i know hes a good guy,
this ones for you zoid

in conclusion, i say we should all whatch inaras introductory scene again and again. and perhaps a third time.

respectfully,

Jonas,
Ps. your pretty cool zoid

not really.

pps. you guys are boring,i'm leaving forever

I can't find the emoticon for 'WTF?!?'
-zed

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:14 AM

Yes, I did notice, mainly because the width of this thread narrowed significantly and I Nancy Drew'd my way to the top to find out why.

We can only hope he truly is gone forever.

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:19 AM

FORRESTWOLF

I've been avoiding this topic because it's rediculous, but since it's persisted (WHY are you people letting it persist? Why am I?), here I go: I went through and looked at MniJ's posts over the past month or two, and I REALLY don't think this is something you need to worry about. MniJ makes rather inane comments about Mal and the rest of the cast, and just generally seems to not CARE about the show or this community.

Zoid, of COURSE you're welcome here. Not so sure about people like MniJ.

People, get back to talking about things that matter, and leave this topic alone so it can die!

- Forrestwolf, who is a man :)

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:27 AM

But it worked! We got him to leave forever because we're boring! Besides, I hijacked it so it's mine now.

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 8:40 AM

Mmmm-a-lishy-goodness wrote:

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Yes, I did notice...

There for a second, I was hoping you were talking about the smallish snake...

But since you were talking about 'Jonas (heh-heh), I'll say I hope he stays. I really don't have anything against people posting silliness, even outrageous silliness. Done the right way, it's entertaining and consciousness-expanding; I give you Succatash as the perfect example (although he's been way too quiet lately). Who will ever forget his Jesus on the cross last Easter, with the balloon, "Thanks for killing me!"?

But like I said, I draw the line at going out of your way to insult Firefly or its fans, without any backing logic. Further, I take exception to those who make a personal attack on others. MniJ did that on one of the other threads, 'Matrix vs Firefly', and I reacted coldly. And I don't apologize for that reaction; come into my house and take a sh*t in my living room, and I'll react the same way. It may be 'boring', but it's true to my nature.

Having said that, I hope 'Jonas sticks around, and stays as irreverent as he likes, short of being insulting. Insulting others without them wanting to kill you is the most delicate of arts; perhaps a different tactic might prove more efficacious...

Finally,

zoid
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 9:39 AM

CORNCOBB

Zoid, just so u know, I hope u stay. Even when I don't agree with your comments, they're always well argued, and never unneccesarily insulting (Anyone who comes here to slag off firefly or its fans deserves all they get).
And if anyone else starts hassel for you on this site let me know. Me and Malicious will gang up on them for you and hijack every gorram thread they post.

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:20 PM

SOUPCATCHER

I just felt in the bumpety-bump type mood - blame it on the alcohol.

.

Are we still voting? An emphatic stay for me. I thoroughly enjoy most of what you post (can't say "all of what you post" just because I try not to make absolute type statements, unless it's in a request to a bartender, then it's Absolut away ... Hmmm. Where was I?). In addition, I always get a kick out of the way you vary the closing line before you sign off (what the hell is that thing called? Opposite of salutation? Oh well. But I digress.).

The Fireflyfan community wouldn't be the same without you. Now if we could just get Succatash to brighten our lives with some more wackiness...

Homagingly yours,

SoupCatcher

* editting this entry rather than adding another post and inadvertently bumping... Tiptoes in without turning on the lights. Stumbles around in the dark and stubs toe...

Thanks, PurpleBelly! That was exactly the word I was looking for (just another one of those things that weren't covered in my high school typing class). Okay. I'll tiptoe back out again and not disturb anything else

.

There are three kinds of people: fighters, lovers, and screamers.

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:36 PM

That would be valediction

vale
kcs

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Monday, December 20, 2004 2:15 AM

MINIME

Weighing into this discussion a little on the late side, just my 2 cents worth - always enjoy reading what Zoid (/zed!) has to say.
not often in life you get interting, articulate or intelligent conversation; hoping this forum remains a haven for such.
cheers.

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Monday, December 20, 2004 4:29 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

(scratches head)

Not really sure when or where this Jonas got a bur stuck under his saddle, but I have to chime in w/ the rest of the community Zoid when I say that you are a permanent fixture here and the place would not be the same without you. I find your comments thought provoking and enlightening, so I am not sure what sort of malfunction this Jonas character has, but I cast my vote for ignoring him/her.

That being said, I hate to see anyone leave, but if they are looking to cause trouble I won't ask 'em to stay.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Meet Up:
http://firefly.meetup.com/9/boards/

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Monday, December 20, 2004 6:55 AM

Fellow Browncoats:

Thank you all for your supportive words and thoughtful responses. I took a (not terribly risky) risk, by asking you for an affirmation of what I believe FFFn is all about: Respectfully engaging in discourse with others, whose singular interest is in Firefly. While we do stray into other topics 'in the key of life', our love of Firefly ties us together, and opens the channels of communication to discuss those other topics, on which we may occasionally vehemently disagree. At the end of the day, though, we can all be reunited by that singular unifying philosophy that Firefly represents. (Y'all know what that is, so I won't reiterate our values.)

Frankly, I'm happy to see my presumptions validated. I was fairly certain of the outcome. If I had been wrong, I would have resolutely left the site, as I promised. But mostly, I suggested this exercise to demonstrate to anyone who sought to sow discord, or randomly denigrate persons on this board by using broad generalizations, that this community knows who and what we are, and will not suffer such attempts lightly. No one can just weasel in here and tear us apart, no matter how much 'fun' they might think it would be trying.

And now, I think it's time to move on, with no grudges held against those who have perhaps had a harder time trying to figure out how to fit in... A harder time trying to say something that people will pay attention to... A harder time trying to figure out how to cut-and-paste a thousand emoticons into a single post

... So let's let this thread die now, especially since I'm getting a little embarrassed by all the love; I guess I'm not really 'dedicated thread' material. But I sincerely do appreciate y'all taking the time and effort to say all those nice things.

With that, I'll just say, "Last one out turns off the lights", (*zoid affects Michael Buffer voice*) and turn you over to... The Mistress of the Channel Changer... your favorite ThreadJacker... say it with me...

Mmmm!

Ahhh!

Liiii - shuuuus!

Gratefully,

zoid

P.S.
Somebody get me off this crazy thiiing!!!
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"Burn the land and boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." The Ballad of Serenity

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Monday, December 20, 2004 10:47 AM

(Tonight Show-type music plays in the background)

Welcome everyone! Glad to have you here. You all look wonderful tonight.

So! We have a great thread for you this evening, with special guests ME! And, ummm, Zoid probably. BadgersHat may stop by. Uhhhh, anyone else want to come up on stage with me?

Mal-licious

Co-Holder of the Red Bell from Hell

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Monday, December 20, 2004 11:22 AM

EMBERS

well I take it back....

not my support of Zoid, because I am a fan

no, I take back my tolerance of MniJ, who clearly IS a troll

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Monday, December 20, 2004 11:55 AM

JADEHAND

Sorry, took a while for me to read this due to some enjoyable time off, and the fact that I thought it was a joke by the title. Big hugs for Zoid. Always welcome, always enjoyable.
Gotta burn trolls when you kill 'em least they regenerate

*turns out lights*

Visit WWW.Marillion.Com for a better way to live

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Monday, December 20, 2004 12:35 PM

KELLAINA

*turns lights back on*

I know this thread is supposed to be dying and all, but it's still at the top so...

I just want to say I'm glad you're staying; I've always enjoyed reading your posts

.

*turns lights back out, closes door*

If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do. -"Angel"

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Monday, December 20, 2004 3:02 PM