Question: What tv show object do you associate with which character by Zol

Quote:
Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
When I think of River I think of her "stick" from Objects in Space

I nominate this to be the only correct answer to what is in fact a subjective question.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:28 AM

DARKSYDE

Shepherd Book - His Hair
Jayne - His Knife
Inara - Mal
Mal - His gun
Zoe - Her necklace
Wash - Goslings
Kaylee - Overalls
River - Boots
Simon - His round glasses from the pilot. (yeah yeah you never see'm again, it's my list)

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:36 AM

I was actually thinking of the series as a whole, I had thought about the stick for River, had to think carefully about Kaylee, with the strawberries too.

I guess it`s the most memorable items that stick in the mind.

I don`t think Shepherd Books hair should count, it`s not an object as such.

Darin (Zol.)

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:51 AM

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Originally posted by Zol:
I was actually thinking of the series as a whole, I had thought about the stick for River, had to think carefully about Kaylee, with the strawberries too.

It has to be the stick, look at the picture:

Find me an image that better shows River, one where you can look at it and instantly tell you are looking at River instead of Summer.

After you’ve done that, you probably can, throw out all of the ones that don’t have an object you can associate her with.

It’s either the stick of the cryogenic chamber, and the stick is better.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:14 AM

PSYCHICRIVER

Other people are allowed to disagree!

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."

"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."

Me -

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:01 AM

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Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
Other people are allowed to disagree!

I know they are, and what's more I support that, but it doesn't mean I can't be grumpy about it and say that they aren't allowed to.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:11 AM

Zol:

Good question!

My answers:

Book: Bible

Jayne: Goggles

Inara: Syringe

Mal: Suspenders ('braces' for the Brits in the audience; although you never know, eh?)

Zoe: The legs ...you can put that down. ...And where her legs meet her back... Actually that whole area... Where the Lord split her... (or her sawed-off rifle, if you insist on being serious.)

Wash: Dinosaurs

Kaylee: Strawberries

River: Tree branch or rubber ball

Simon: Syringe (different than Inara's... or is it?)

Itemizingly,

zoid
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Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:14 AM

THATWEIRDGIRL

*mumbling to self ... can't disagree, can't disagree...*

Book: hair...you may not think of it as a thing, but it works as a prop
Inara: tea
Mal: browncoat
Kaylee: hammock
Simon: vest...i want to help him lose that vest
Zoe: bullet proof vest
Wash: dinosaurs
River: stick..no really, I agree
Jayne: cunning hat
Serenity: dining room

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 7:57 AM

XENOCIDE

Zoid technically they are braces, because they button to the pants. Suspenders clip on. At least that is my understanding of the difference. Of course pants with buttons for braces are called suspender pants. Hmmm....

-Eli

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PS Am I reading the wrong threads? I haven't heard Static recently.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:16 AM

MANWITHPEZ

Important people don't do field work.

I can't believe that no one's brought up Zoe's Mare's Leg. I LOVE that gun. Behind Mal's, it is my very favorite gun.

Wash is the dinosaurs...gotta be, right.

Kaylee...The engine room/strawberries...

Simon...That black medical bag.

Jayne...Its all about the hat, baby.

Book...I always associated him more with the robes he was wearing than anything else.

Inara...The hourglass.

River...That stick/or the Desert Eagle it turns into...I'm not sure which, because its the same gun she weilds in War Stories.

Mal...Serenity herself,...Okay, the gun....No really...okay...The Browncoat...

Kaylee: "What's so damn important about being proper? It don't mean nothing out here in the black."
Simon: "It means more out here. It's all I have..."

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:19 AM

xenocide:

I don't know about 'technically', but this is one of those disconnects between English and American 'English'. 'Suspenders', in the US, may be popularly defined as, well, 'suspenders' as we generically think of them. In British (and Commonwealth) parlance, 'suspenders' refers to a garter belt, a la Frederick's of Hollywood and J. Edgar Hoover.

What we generically refer to as 'suspenders', Britons routinely call 'braces'. (NB: As in Elton John's, "My sister looks cute in her braces and boots", which many Americans think means she's wearing an orthodontic appliance.)

There probably is a more detailed etymological refinement of this particular quirk in usage; but, generally, if you say 'suspenders' to an American, one picture leaps to mind, quite different from that which leaps to the mind of a Brit. And vice versa with the term 'braces'...

Linguistically (or at least 'Linguini-ly'),

zoid
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Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:36 AM

XENOCIDE

Book: His collar, the unseen hunting rifle.
Jayne: The switchblade and the apple.
Zoe: Her vest and gun. And the tall boots.
Wash: The shirts...the moustache
Mal: The Gun...bwah!
Nara: The Padme pistol!
Simon: Medicin vials
River: Pitter pattering combat boots...poison berries.
Kaylee: Her fancy cupcake dress

-Eli

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:38 AM

XENOCIDE

But in the US the are sold as braces if the have button holes. So do you think they are different or is this jsut caused by snobbishness and linguistic overlap? Any Brits here to chime in?

-Eli

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:49 AM

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Originally posted by xenocide:

But in the US the are sold as braces if the have button holes. So do you think they are different or is this jsut caused by snobbishness and linguistic overlap? Any Brits here to chime in?

-Eli

If voting mattered, they'd make it illegal.
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Ok, here`s a good brit reason why they are braces and not suspenders.

If you goto a gentlemans outfitters and ask for suspenders, you are most likely to be asked if they are for holding up socks rather than trousers - think Jeeves & Wooster - Braces on the other hand have only the one meaning within the gentlemans out fitters - the device used for holding up ones trousers.

Darin (Zol.)

Now - Get back to the question!

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:55 AM

xenocide:

Please do not misunderstand. As I said, there are many ways of correctly saying anything, to include the usage of 'braces' versus 'suspenders'.

I was simply trying to point out that if you say, "He was wearing suspenders" to an American, the likely response would be, "What? Doesn't he like belts?", as opposed to a Brit's "What? Is Eddie Izzard on again?"

Same thing with 'braces'. Say, "The teen-aged girl wore braces," and most Americans ('Yanks', I suppose, to be fair) think of orthodontia; whereas most Brits would have a mental picture of straps worn over the shoulders to hold up a pair of trousers/breeches/britches/pants.

Still, isn't it interesting that I'm apparently the only one who finds Mal's suspenders/braces a signature item? Most folks have said 'gun'. I think I see him as more of a father figure, symbolized by his suspenders...

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
When it comes to self-analysis, I'm reminded of the saying about a defendant who represents himself in a court of law: He has a fool for a client. So maybe I should let someone else analyze my responses to this question, hmmm?
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Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:07 AM

MALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
So maybe I should let someone else analyze my responses to this question, hmmm?

I have analyzed your responses throughout this thread, yea, verily, throughout time, and have concluded that I would not wear braces of either sort. Garter belt, sure, but not braces.

Mal-licious

"Let's go be bad guys."

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:24 AM

BLINKER

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Originally posted by christhecynic:
Quote:
Originally posted by PsychicRiver:
When I think of River I think of her "stick" from Objects in Space

I nominate this to be the only correct answer to what is in fact a subjective question.

It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:13 AM

WEICHI

Mal - Serenity
Zoe - Her gun
Wash - Dinosaurs (Hawaiian shirt if costume counts
Jayne - Weight set
Kaylee - Her lawn chair
Book - Dust
Simon - River, or rather River's "illness" (a stretch I know, but best I could do)
River - the stick

I'm learning brevity!

See how I'm not hitting him, I think I've grown!

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:29 AM

'Lishy:

How're ya' doing, gorgeous? Okay, that may be a little inappropriate; but, I just mean it affectionately, you know.

Did you figure out how to get into one of the previews? I read your "I had a baby 18 and 1/2 years ago" comment and about fell out laughing. Some people will try anything to get into one of these shows, huh?

But seriously, have you figured who a body's got to sleep with to get a ticket?!

*zoid suddenly pictures Mmmm-a-lishus wearing nothing but suspenders and braces, holding two tickets to a preview screening*. Ummm, gotta go now.

Imaginatively,

zoid

P.S.
I'm still dealing with the whole 'Sword of Damocles' thing myself, as previously discussed, so I may be a little more unstable than normal. Say a prayer for me, and then five or six more for what I just posted above.
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Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:08 AM

Don`t hijack thread Zoid, that`s what PM is for.

Keep to the topic at hand - otherwise It degenerates.

Thanks,

Darin (Zol.)

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:20 AM

Master Zol:

I am most taken aback, sirrah, at the suggestion that I might be hijacking a thread!

The image of a scantily clad Mal-Licious holding two tickets to the BDM would be the finest example of symbolism, and pertinent to any conversation of Firefly, surely.

And to think this all started with Mal Reynolds' suspenders... There's a good Southern epithet in there, somewhere.

Like, "Mal Reynolds' suspenders! What in tarnation are y'all arguin' about?"

Epithetically,

zoid
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Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:42 PM

MALICIOUS

Zoid,

You never have, and never could, say anything that would offend me.

Zol, on the other hand, has offended me by reprimanding you. I don't appreciate that, not a jot. Everyone here has a (gasp!) PERSONALITY and they show them by utilizing (gasp! again) THE WRITTEN WORD. We are not robots. If you put a thread on a message board, you cannot control the content or the outcome. It is a living thing. If you want to get only those responses you deem correct, then don't put it on a forum where I can get a hold of it. Because I am most definitely not a robot.

Mal-licious

"Let's go be bad guys."

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:23 PM

CYBERSNARK

Besides, Zoid was talkin' to Malicious. It's in her nature to hijack threads, she can't help it.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:33 PM

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Originally posted by Malicious:
Because I am most definitely not a robot.

Or if you are you are a very advanced one who has been programmed either not to know that he is a robot, not to say that he is a robot, or simply decided not to reveal it at this time. Regardless you must be a very well made one, and that means you are beyond control to the same degree as a human.

-

On a more on topic note:

The umbrella is Kaylee.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:54 PM

'Lishus:

Thanks for the support, but I guess Zol is right about distracting from his poll. I just didn't realize that he was intending it to be scientific and the centerpiece of his Master's thesis. I thought it was supposed to be an exercise in fun for fans of the show, like most of the other threads hereabouts.

I can't get mad at Captain Zol Harbatkin, though. I've got one of his excellent Serenity wallpapers ( http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=2831) on my #1 desktop. Anybody who could make such an excellent wallpaper has got to be an alright guy, even if he does accuse me of 'degenerating' his poll. I was pretty sure degenerating polls was your bailiwick...

'snark:
Thank you for being generous, as well.

ChrisTheCynic:
Mal-Licious is definitely a 'she-robot', if she's a Cylon at all. I've seen the pictures, and trust me, there's no doubt in my mind.

Also, topic-wards: Yeah, I can see the brolly for Kaylee's symbol. But everytime I think about Kaylee, the image of her savoring Book's strawberry gift pops straight into my head, just as with Simon I immediately see him preparing a hypodermic for his sister. "No, Mei-Mei. It's time to wake up."

Respectfully,

zoid
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Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:14 PM

COZEN

As usual, can't stick exactly to the topic, yet humbly submit a list in the spirit of things:

Kaylee: perfect wife

Wash: me

Simon: whom I wish I could be capable of, had I the I.Q.

Zoe: Xena

Book: Conscience. Flawed, but quite handy.

Inara: whore-wife-mother

Mal: the guy we need in order to succeed, but can't be.

Jayne: useful grunt, when we can look the other way.

River: Ever met an acute depressive? Usually phenominally brilliant, requiring a lot of work to be with, but if you can ride it out the rollercoaster trips, ultimately rewarding beyond all imagination.

Serentity: home.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:17 PM

SERENITYVALLEY

Let me take a stab at this.

Mal. Browncoat and gun are given. I'll add the red button. Maybe an ear? (he does have at least one in every episode

)

Zoe. Necklace.

Wash. Dinos. The steering wheel (or lack of it in one scene of Serenity).

Book. The Book.

Inara. Syringe. Maybe that funky magmalamp thing.

Kaylee. Engine grease. Her 'sheep' dress.

Jayne. Statue. Hats -- both from The Message and Train Job. Vera too. It's hard to pick just one; Jayne touches everything.

Simon. Medicine in general.

River. Her box. The stick, of course.

And Badger. His hat. Maybe even that apple peeler. (sorry)

http://www.simple-assault.com/Firefly.htm

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:36 PM

SerenityValley wrote:

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...Jayne touches everything.

There ya' go! Right on the money!

And then you had to go here:

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River. Her box...

Keep it clean, will ya'? This is a serious poll, fer chrissakes!

Honestly though, I thought the image of River slipping head-first -- naked, wet and disoriented -- from her padded cryogenic containment (in which we had seen her lying fetally curled) was intensely suggestive of birth. It was one of the most powerful and original uses of symbolism I had ever seen in any visual medium. Wow! What a show!

Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
And, wow! What a bunch of dumbasses at F*x!
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Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:02 PM

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Originally posted by zoid:
ChrisTheCynic:
Mal-Licious is definitely a 'she-robot', if she's a Cylon at all. I've seen the pictures, and trust me, there's no doubt in my mind.

And now you've mentioned it in your post so I can't fix it. (Well I can fix it but it won't make a difference because the mistake will still be stated in your post.)

It's just an oops, I responded to the words, not the person. I shall try not to do that again.

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 5:09 PM

MALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by christhecynic:
...you must be a very well made one...

Gender aside, I agree with you!

Mal-licious

"Let's go be bad guys."

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:26 PM

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Originally posted by Malicious:
Quote:
Originally posted by christhecynic:
...you must be a very well made one...

Gender aside, I agree with you!

Am I forgiven?

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Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:06 PM