JayneCobb: obtuse and in-appropriate. by chrisisall

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JayneCobb: obtuse and in-appropriate.

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:17
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Monday, August 15, 2005 7:49 AM

Y'know, I saw a poll about a millin years ago. I don't remember what site . . . it may have been this one for all I know.
Anyway, the poll asked what character we thought would become the most important/vital to the crew had the show continued. Jayne came out on top with River being second.

I'm glad that I'm not the only person who saw more to that man than guns, muscles, and a mouth.

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Monday, August 15, 2005 8:02 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by thatweirdgirl:
I'm so screwed up that the character you hear when I post is River. You do know that she's a bit touched?

Look what she did in War Stories and Objects In Space; touched can be a good thing...

When I read over my posts, I mostly hear Xander...

(to be topic related...)"Can I come in now?"

Hears voices Chrisisall

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Monday, August 15, 2005 12:54 PM

R1Z

I just re-read this whole thread, and thought of another.

The first time Jayne is on screen with Book, Dobson and Simon is at the dinner table when they're eating Book's produce. Jayne's first line in that scene is, "We're just happy to be doin' good works." With a perfectly straight face. Classic Jayne.

And this is completely off thread, but have you noticed that in the Battle of Serenity footage, Mal kisses the cross he wears around his neck. In The Train Job, Mal tells Book, "If I'm your mission Shepherd, you'd best give it up. You're welcome on my boat, but God ain't." Clearly, at some point, Mal and God have a falling out.

And back to Jayne, when Book asks Mal if he minds if he says grace, Mal replies, "Only if you say it out loud." The camera then shows us Book, Jayne and Kaylee bowing their heads. Is it possible that Jayne is a religious man?

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Monday, August 15, 2005 12:55 PM

THATWEIRDGIRL

Okay...but only if io get to go first...

*drops jacks on the floor and picks up ball*

Ready?

www.thatweirdgirl.com
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"...turn right at the corner then skip two blocks...no, SKIP, the hopping-like thing kids do...Why? Why not?"

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Monday, August 15, 2005 12:59 PM

STARRBABY

Quote:
Originally posted by R1Z:
Clearly, at some point, Mal and God have a falling out.

That is a big part of Mal's character. I believe he lost his faith when his comrades ditched him in serenity valley.

BUT this thread is dedicated to my Jayne, so I'm done talking about Mal now.

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Monday, August 15, 2005 1:16 PM

R1Z

Sorry, but he's not YOUR Jayne. You're gonna have to share him. But he's a pretty big guy. I'm betting there'll be enough to go 'round.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Monday, August 15, 2005 1:22 PM

STARRBABY

We could draw a big chalk circle and put him in the middle. Then we could all stand around the circle and call him. That'll decide who's Jayne he is.

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Monday, August 15, 2005 1:38 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by R1Z:
Is it possible that Jayne is a religious man?

Yeah, and I'm the King of all Londinium.
Jayne bowed his head in that way of, 'Might be seein' him someday, better pave the way with a few prayers to get on his good side...'
Not religious really, just coverin' bases.

Skeptic Chrisisall

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Monday, August 15, 2005 1:42 PM

R1Z

Isn't covering bases what religion is all about? (he says, ducking)

If it's real, you're covered, if it's not, it's just time wasted.

To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks. --Robt. Heinlein

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Monday, August 15, 2005 2:36 PM

PSYCHICRIVER

This ones not really a stand alone line, but it made me choke on what I was eating at the time...

"Well Kaylee here just wished you were a gyneachologist."

Oh, and for a one-liner I just lurv "Smells like crotch."

PsychicRiver

"Two by two, hands of blue."

"We'll take care of each other. I'll knit!"

Summer Glau to me - "You are so photogenic."

Me -

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Monday, August 15, 2005 7:34 PM

STARRBABY

Quote:
Originally posted by R1Z:
Isn't covering bases what religion is all about? (he says, ducking)

If it's real, you're covered, if it's not, it's just time wasted.

Well, I've always thought of it this way, if we have a reason to be religious (ex. We'll be damned for eternity if we aren't) then we're doing fine by being religious and living a good life.
If there is no resaon to be religious (ex. death is the end and there is no supreme being) then we really haven't lost anything my living a good life and being nice to people.

Okay, now I'm going to duck next to you. You cover my head, and I'll cover yours.

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Monday, August 15, 2005 9:36 PM

BATMARLOWE

Ah, the CYA argument. Never bought it myself. 'Cause God would know your motivation and that you're not a true believer.

Damnation anyway.

Seems to me it's gotta come from the heart and not the head.

But what do I know, I'm agnostic.

And Jayne bowing his head? Just looked at it. He hesitates for just a second and his expression is one of "guess I should do this". Could be because he was trained as a boy to bow his head and say grace. And since he's in the presence of a Shepard and everyone else is doing it, he does it too. Not saying that's the only way too look at it, but that's how I interpret it.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:54 AM

STARRBABY

Quote:
Originally posted by batmarlowe:
Could be because he was trained as a boy to bow his head and say grace.

I think you hit the nail on the head. I can so see a little Jayne getting wacked in the back of the head by his daddy for not bowing during grace.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:22 AM

BATMARLOWE

Or his mom.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:26 AM

SPINLAND

Or by both of them, in turns. Hee.

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I hope she does the soup thing. It's always a hoot, and we don't all die from it.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:38 AM

BATMARLOWE

Is Jayne Italian?

Sorry, please don't be offended if you're Italian. I was just thinking of that scene in SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER, and they're at the dinner table and they keep whacking Tony in the head. And he's all p.o.'d 'cause they're messing up his hair.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:26 AM

STARRBABY

He he he . . .I can so see that.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:33 AM

PURPLEBELLY

Quote:
Originally posted by Starrbaby:
... I can so see a little Jayne getting wacked in the back of the head by his daddy ...

I agree, abuse during childhood is the key to Cobb's generalised fearfulness and poor self-image.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:41 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

When I first saw Firefly I thought Jane would be the most one dimentional character, and the most boring after a while, but he ended up being one of the best on the show for me.

I think it's all the little details that win me over. Little lines like "I like whacking 'em!" (when Mal points out that he doesn't need to hit the cows in 'Safe'), or his line in 'Objects in Space'. "If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak!" The writers never miss a trick with Jane, and seeing his blunt reaction to everything that goes on is always fun. He's kind of a mix of Cordelia and Anya. Just what every crew of smugglers needs, huh?

"I'm a bloodsucking fiend! Look at my outfit!"

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:09 AM

NOX2HED

Just recent to Firefly, caught it by lucky accident on sci-fi. Was totally blown away.

When first saw Jayne, thought, man he really looks like this dude I’d seen in bunch of other flicks, the first being ‘My Bodyguard’ (BITD). But no, couldn’t be, no way could he still look the same. But surenuff, it’s Adam!

His character’s always been similar, real hardass, but don’t think he’s ever been better cast than here.

Absolutely love the show. Crushed when discovered it’s only a partial season run. Well, at least glad I’m gonna savor experiencing it for the first time, and then there’s Serenity.

One of us is crazy, and it's not you!

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 6:30 AM

CHRISISALL

nox2hed, we meet again.
If you scroll down these here thread lists, you get to 'see threads that have been archived', click on that to see threads that might catch your interest that have been lying dormant, waiting like an Incan Mummy girl, waiting to be resurected....

Dead thread head Chrisisall

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 10:11 AM

LANCECONSTABLELOGAN

Okay- nobody mentioned this one, so I gotta put it out there-
"River's a witch?" -Jayne
"Yes, Jayne, she's had congress with the Beast." -Wash
"She's in Congress?" -Jayne

Does he have a bad line in the whole show?
Adam Baldwin is a genius. I love Jayne and it kills me that the shows over and we don't get to watch his slow development. I think Ariel was a real turning point for him- strangely enough he really started to seem like more of a part of the crew after Mal let him live.

"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." -H. L. Mencken

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Tuesday, August 16, 2005 12:17 PM

BROKENDAWN

A few of my favorites...

"My John Thomas is about to pop off and fly around the room, there's so much tasty in here!"

He looks so excited. Like a child on Christmas day.

"Sick people are hi-larious."

Jayne: We'da been back first, 'cept there's something wrong with Inara's shuttle. She's done somethin' to it, Mal. Smells funny.
Inara: I told you, that's incense.
Jayne: So you say.

"I'm a show her good an' all I got man parts!"

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