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It's also reflected in culture, with the Companions being based on Geishas.

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It's also reflected in culture, with the Companions being based on Geishas.

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While I agree the melding of Eat & West is reflected in the culture as well as the language, I would like to point out that geishas are Japanese, not Chinese.

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It's also reflected in culture, with the Companions being based on Geishas.

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While I agree the melding of Eat & West is reflected in the culture as well as the language, I would like to point out that geishas are Japanese, not Chinese.

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Nitpicker. ;) True, but picky. lol, j/k

Anyway, I read an article (I think it was in Finding Serenity) putting forth the idea that the 'mix' of cultures that we see in the series is the end result of a blending, and later oppression of Asian cultures in the Alliance. Like, the superpowers merged, but later in the timeline, the Asians were suppressed, which is why we don't see as many...I don't know she said it way better than me. Go read Finding Serenity. ;)

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It's also reflected in culture, with the Companions being based on Geishas.

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While I agree the melding of Eat & West is reflected in the culture as well as the language, I would like to point out that geishas are Japanese, not Chinese.

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Nitpicker. ;) True, but picky. lol, j/k

Anyway, I read an article (I think it was in Finding Serenity) putting forth the idea that the 'mix' of cultures that we see in the series is the end result of a blending, and later oppression of Asian cultures in the Alliance. Like, the superpowers merged, but later in the timeline, the Asians were suppressed, which is why we don't see as many...I don't know she said it way better than me. Go read Finding Serenity. ;)

--Ballad

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There isn't anything Asian there except for Chinese. Where are the Hindi speakers, why aren't there any Malay influences? If it's Chinese, stick with Chinese and let's not bastardize the understanding of what's Chinese with other things Asian. If Chinese was one of the superpowers, you can pretty much bet that "Geishas" is not one of those things that gets carried over - because it is uniquely Japanese with at least some thousands of years of its own culture behind it. I don't know if we are insulting the Japanese or the Chinese folks here by lumping it altogether. But at the very least, it completely ignoramus.



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It's also reflected in culture, with the Companions being based on Geishas.

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While I agree the melding of Eat & West is reflected in the culture as well as the language, I would like to point out that geishas are Japanese, not Chinese.

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Nitpicker. ;) True, but picky. lol, j/k

Anyway, I read an article (I think it was in Finding Serenity) putting forth the idea that the 'mix' of cultures that we see in the series is the end result of a blending, and later oppression of Asian cultures in the Alliance. Like, the superpowers merged, but later in the timeline, the Asians were suppressed, which is why we don't see as many...I don't know she said it way better than me. Go read Finding Serenity. ;)

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There isn't anything Asian there except for Chinese. Where are the Hindi speakers, why aren't there any Malay influences? If it's Chinese, stick with Chinese and let's not bastardize the understanding of what's Chinese with other things Asian. If Chinese was one of the superpowers, you can pretty much bet that "Geishas" is not one of those things that gets carried over - because it is uniquely Japanese with at least some thousands of years of its own culture behind it. I don't know if we are insulting the Japanese or the Chinese folks here by lumping it altogether. But at the very least, it completely ignoramus.



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Maybe you're right, but I can't recall anyone actually involved with the show saying that the Companions were based on geishas. I think it was just a fan assumption. The only mention of geishas on the show were the wobbly-headed dolls.

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And it's always possible that Joss simply didn't get around to using those 'other' Asian elements. Also, check your grammar on that last sentance, please. It made no sense at all.

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That wasn't my point. What I'm saying is that whatever line of logic and whomever made the assumptions (original and follow-ups) aside, that no one (except for complete idiots) shouldn't be lumping together all of the cultures, countries, people, or anything into one big huge conglomerate and cross referencing them together when we mean to talk about one thing. Is it an assumption or apart of the "known historical timeline" that Chinese is the dominant force or is it all of Asia getting together and forming a super-power (if so, then that bit would be difficult to swallow). If Chinese *is* it, then throwing in this-and-that willy nilly is just completely silly. It can only tell me that there is a complete disregard at the level of the writer on what the different cultures mean and carry with them. Whatever the case, whoever is doing it; I think it's important to know that they are distinct things in different cultures. That these cultures didn't exist as a conglomerate of ideas or motifs to entertain or delight you; they are there (and theirs) to servie as distinctive means to convey the ideas of a people and to identify them with as much as a way to live their lives. Blending them all together into one slurry carries across, at the very least, as saying "I really could careless what country you are from. As long as you fit into the idiotic and romantic notion of what all you *seem* to do"... Just a tad bit ethno-euro-centric...

And it's not just nit-picky to be knowledgeble and understanding about their differences.

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