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Originally posted by joyfulgirl:
I would DEFINITELY recommend Arrested Development. It's unbelievably smart and funny, which of course means it's in danger of being canceled (Firefly fans can relate). Everyone who's a fan of intelligent, hilarious tv needs to be watching it!

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SportsNight: This one isn't sci-fi, but it's one of my favorites. Only lasted 2 season on ABC before it got cancelled. It's an Aaron Sorkin (he does West Wing). Very smart, very funny.

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Originally posted by Stylinlp38:
Basic TV format is to wrap up everything between commercials and end the entire story thread within 42 min is just lame. Every episode with a differant writer and nothing really ever changes. Thats the main reason I only watch movies. I want a TV show that is not a TV show. Firefly was like that except for a few of the episodes.

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Originally posted by skyscraper:
I don’t know if your into cartoons any, but check out Gargoyles. It’s by Disney, but you’d never know it unless you saw the end of the credits. I really enjoyed that cartoon. It had a good continuity, character and story development. Its almost like they used Shakespeare as the backbone for the overall development of the story. Before you say Shakespeare/gargoyle sounds like a bad combination I got two words. Space-Western. To me, Gargoyles is the Firefly of cartoons. I think it ran 3 years. I only saw the first season and half the second. I’m actually planning on getting its DVDs sometime soon. If you can rent a season, check it out. You might be surprised.

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Originally posted by skyscraper:
I don’t know if your into cartoons any, but check out Gargoyles. It’s by Disney, but you’d never know it unless you saw the end of the credits. I really enjoyed that cartoon. It had a good continuity, character and story development. Its almost like they used Shakespeare as the backbone for the overall development of the story. Before you say Shakespeare/gargoyle sounds like a bad combination I got two words. Space-Western. To me, Gargoyles is the Firefly of cartoons. I think it ran 3 years. I only saw the first season and half the second. I’m actually planning on getting its DVDs sometime soon. If you can rent a season, check it out. You might be surprised.

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I second this, but add (sadly) that only S1 is out on DVD. The others may follow if it does well, but it's been out a while now and I've heard no news.

But yeah, awesome. This is the series that made me track down A Midsummer Night's Dream and read it for fun. In high school.

Where else in Disney will you find a hero who witnesses the massacre of his family, then attempts to commit suicide, a non-charicatured villain who manages to redeem himself (but still isn't trustworthy), an evil "princess/witch" who is justified, villains with actual motives (however flawed and irrational), a heroine who carries (and uses) a gun (not a laser blaster either, a genuine nine-mil, bullets and all), and who actually gets shot. (Blood! On screen! In a Disney cartoon!)

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
If you don't like "Muffy the Stake Driver," you probably wouldn't like Buffy either.
I am not a big Buffy fan (interested enough to watch it once, but won't watch it again), but I did like and buy Angel. (Angel had a lot of collaborators who went on to work on Firefly.) So there is a lot of diversity in the way Firefly fans react to other Whedon shows.

Here are other shows that I love and recommend.

1. Profit (created by Angel co-creator, David Greenwalt) 8 episodes only, also cancelled by FOX, but ever sooo clever. Recommended if you like darker series shown on HBO. Maybe take a few episodes to hook you, but it is excellent.

2. Wonderfalls (created by Firefly co-writer, Tim Minnear) NOT sci-fi--got some supernatural/fantasy. 13 episodes only, also cancelled by FOX. Takes a good 6 episodes to get you hooked, so be patient when it seems stupid at the beginning. It gets very, very good.

3. Dark Angel. The first season was quite phenomenal, but degenerated into "fluff" in the second season. Eventually, it came together again, but it was too late. Also cancelled by FOX.

4. Red Dwarf. British sit com, sci-fi but cheesy special effects. It's strength is its writing. It has some of the funniest dialogue / metaphors this side of Dennis Miller.

5. Yes, Prime Minister / Yes, Minister. These series are NOT sci-fi--they are British political satire. But they are my favorite TV shows of all time right under Firefly, because like Firefly, they are consistently "A" quality. Clever and tight script, amazing acting, exceptionally funny.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Originally posted by Stylinlp38:
I loved Firefly and Serenity! I hate TV shows. I cant stress strongly enough how I hate television shows. I have to leave the room. Im pretty much a movie fanatic.

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I second this, but add (sadly) that only S1 is out on DVD. The others may follow if it does well, but it's been out a while now and I've heard no news.

But yeah, awesome. This is the series that made me track down A Midsummer Night's Dream and read it for fun. In high school.

Where else in Disney will you find a hero who witnesses the massacre of his family, then attempts to commit suicide, a non-charicatured villain who manages to redeem himself (but still isn't trustworthy), an evil "princess/witch" who is justified, villains with actual motives (however flawed and irrational), a heroine who carries (and uses) a gun (not a laser blaster either, a genuine nine-mil, bullets and all), and who actually gets shot. (Blood! On screen! In a Disney cartoon!)

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