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Originally posted by jossismyboss:
There was an archived radio interview with joss on here where Joss mentioned that if we had done our homework that we should remember an instance on the show when River mentioned something (probably cryptic) about the whole reaver conspiracy that's in the movie.

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Originally posted by Unsardonic:


What would it cost to make the pilot episode a theatrical movie. Probably only a couple million more rather than the $35-40M that Serenity had cost.

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Well, that can't be right as it's already been published that, although the producers had hoped it would be a cost-cutting measure to reuse the old sets & props, those all had been destroyed or lost & had to be rebuilt from the ground up. And, to make matters worse, there were no records of those sets: they actually rebuilt the Serenity rooms using a DVD of "Firefly" to try to imagine what the spaces had originally been... and then improve on them.

So the fact that this was done for ONLY $39M dollars... it's FREAKIN' MINDBLOWING!!!! A True Revelation!!! There should be a new Oscar® category for "Most Unbelievably Economical Special Effects" and not NUTHIN' would come close to what was accomplished by Joss and his "Serenity" crew.

Check out the October 9, 2005 Los Angeles Times article called "Downhome Directing" which is a 3-page article on how Joss/Crew did it. I'd include a link, but the Times has already archived it, requiring you to pay them a few bucks to find it

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Originally posted by Unsardonic:
There should be a new Oscar® category for "Most Unbelievably Economical Special Effects" and not NUTHIN' would come close to what was accomplished by Joss and his "Serenity" crew.

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Was the deleted scene of Zoe telling Tam what happened during the battle of Serenity in the pilot episode or was that some other episode? I think it was the pilot but I'm not sure.

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Originally posted by Rabit:
Personally, I find that comical, since in one of the intros in Finding Serenity ( http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1932100431/103-3411237-9653439?v=glan
ce&n=283155&n=507846&s=books&v=glance), Jane Espenson specifically says that the origin of the Reavers in the movie is not the origin that was planned for the series. Joss had to change it to fit the medium.

Now that doesn't mean that the line he's refering to doesn't still work! I'm just pointing out how Joss will take something he hadn't planned and turn it into something useful and impressive. I personally think that's very shiny, and do my best to emulate that in my RPGs.

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Originally posted by dragonwine:
I think Blue Sun is the corp that either did the teraform or at least supplied the pax. And Blue Sun has it's own "operatives" after River. The "Blue Hand" guys, probably for some completely other reason.
Now if we only knew what exactly was in the syringe that Inara had when the Reavers showed in the tv pilot. Doesn't make sense to be a cure for Reavers.
If parliament ,and perhaps Blue Sun, knew how to make a Reaver, then they could make some in a lab setting and experiment away.
Of course you would need "volunteers".... got a ship full of people you don't like, or that no one will miss, have your stormtroopers haul em away make it look like reavers, and then leak a story that it is rumored to maybe have been Reavers but no such proof exists...etc. Your Alliance taxes at work.

It's a nothing part til you don't got one, then you have to go to ebay.....aaaaagh!

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Originally posted by Unsardonic:
"I think Inara's syringe was simply poison."
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However, when she's in her room with Simon alone, the first words out of her mouth as the scene is cut to are, "It's just a standard companion immunization kit," as she hands him the vial - just before Mal comes barging in uninvited.

I just wonder if no one else noticed this?

HOHOHO

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Originally posted by Gambit3:
if anyone wants to continue and finish my work... the rest of the scripts are here

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Originally posted by gotkaylee:
The immunization kit that Inara hands to Simon isn't the vial. The vial is in a small green box with a flower on it and she hands Simon a few silver sealed packets.

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Plus in the commentary Joss mentions that it may seem that the vial is just a suicide kit/poison, but it was actually something else he never got the chance to explain.

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Thats wierd. I know I read an interview with Joss the other day asking if he had this plot(that of the alliance creating the reavers) in mind all during the series and he said not at its original conception but after just a few episodes he came up with it and made it fit from them on out.

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Since the idea wasn't further explored in the series it is re -cycled in a sightly different way and used in the comics.

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Originally posted by Phoebe:
In Safe, River says to Simon that she has some horrible memories in her head, and they're not hers, but she can't always tell what's a real memory, what's HER real memory, and what's fake.

Reminds me of "Whatever classified information she may have ACCIDENTALLY gleamed, it's probable that they're buried beneath layers of psychosis."

Doesn't hint on the Reavers but does explain why the Alliance want her so badly.

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Originally posted by DigificWriter:
I've seen Firefly more times than I can count, and I have NEVER been able to figure out how and why people have made connections between Blue Sun and the Blue Hand Men. As far as I can tell, there's nothing mentioned, said, etc. either on screen or in the commentaries that provides a link between them, or sheds any light on the Blue Hand Men and their motives.

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Originally posted by Zoot:
And also where she's chained up in Serenity and says something about them having so much blood on them but she didn't put it there -i.e. the government people she saw were covered in the blood of Miranda .... I forget exactly and don’t have my visual companion handy but it’s something like that …

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Originally posted by DigificWriter:
I've seen Firefly more times than I can count, and I have NEVER been able to figure out how and why people have made connections between Blue Sun and the Blue Hand Men. As far as I can tell, there's nothing mentioned, said, etc. either on screen or in the commentaries that provides a link between them, or sheds any light on the Blue Hand Men and their motives. Can someone explain this to me, and also why people have drawn a connection between Blue Sun and the Alliance government?

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Originally posted by DigificWriter:
I've seen Firefly more times than I can count, and I have NEVER been able to figure out how and why people have made connections between Blue Sun and the Blue Hand Men. As far as I can tell, there's nothing mentioned, said, etc. either on screen or in the commentaries that provides a link between them, or sheds any light on the Blue Hand Men and their motives. Can someone explain this to me, and also why people have drawn a connection between Blue Sun and the Alliance government?

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Sure, I know this is a loooooong dead thread, but I came across it when I was browsing and wanted to add this to the mix - has anyone alse seen or thought about this:

http://www.fireflywiki.org/Firefly/BlueSun

Strike me as interesting

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Originally posted by Lampyrid:


Here is an earlier thread:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=4&t=2371

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Originally posted by Lampyrid:
Rabit comments that in "Finding Serenity" Jane Espenson specifically says that the origin of the Reavers in the movie is not the origin that was planned for the series. Joss had to change it to fit the medium.

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