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Monday, December 19, 2005 8:21 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


See section"So is the story finished"

http://wwwj.comcast.net/movies/news/index.jsp?cat=MOVIES&fn=/articles/
josswhedon.html







Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 9:07 AM

PSOLARIS


I just read this from the Toronto Star, who had an interview with Joss Whedon.

This is from today, Dec 19th.

He hasn't given up all hope, and neither should we. Let's keep this hope going!

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout
/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1134946211503&call_pageid=968867495754&col=969483191630




Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Monday, December 19, 2005 9:18 AM

VIKING


browcoats are just serenity fans true ?

or are browcoats allso the fans off buffy and angel ?

The wages of sin are death, but the hours are good and the perks are fantastic.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 9:33 AM

DONCOAT


Browncoats are fans of Firefly and its movie offspring, Serenity.

The name is taken from the losing side (not necessarily the wrong side) of the Unification war -- see Serenity (the pilot episode), The Train Job, etc.



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Monday, December 19, 2005 9:34 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


browncoats are Firefly and Serenity. But we'll let you in as long as you buy the DVD's and watch them.

Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 9:44 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Viking:
browcoats are just serenity fans true ?

or are browcoats allso the fans off buffy and angel ?

The wages of sin are death, but the hours are good and the perks are fantastic.



The short answer ? Browncoats = Firefly/Serenity fans.

Clearly, many Buffy/Angel fans came to love Firefly as well, but not all. One may be a fan of Joss Whedon, and not 'get' Firefly, and thus are not Browncoats. ( Hey, I've seen it happen, honest ) Conversely, there are plenty of Browncoats who fell in love w/ Firefly on its own, maybe never having watched Buffy/Angel at all.



" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Monday, December 19, 2005 9:59 AM

TRACY


Well...

hate to say, "I told you so" but...

"I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!"

Now if only the naysayers would read this too...

Nah, it'd be too much work for 'em. Plus it'd require using some brain muscles that are probably atrophied by now, due to stubbornnes... So yea.

As the Shadow native would say, "We're good, people."

P.S.: And please notice he said, "all the actors". As in ALL the actors.

That gave me a happy. No, really. It did.

"Can I make a suggestion that doesn't involve violence? Or is this the wrong crowd?" (Wash)

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Monday, December 19, 2005 10:06 AM

THEBLACKRABBIT


Quote:

The name is taken from the losing side


Not this time its not.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 10:19 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


With the DVD sales, we're gonna be "Big Damn Heroes," "Ain't we just."

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Monday, December 19, 2005 10:32 AM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
here are plenty of Browncoats who fell in love w/ Firefly on its own, maybe never having watched Buffy/Angel at all.



Indeed

On topic: That comment of Joss sounds interesting. I think we have far better chances at this point than www.trekunited.com* ever had.

*Huge fan campaign to revive the Star Trek franchise (for those who didn't know)

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Monday, December 19, 2005 11:39 AM

SAMEERTIA


Hope.

I got hope, but where are our angels?

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Monday, December 19, 2005 11:59 AM

HARSHCRITIC


That is why there has been so much negativity lately from non fans. You know those people who became members of this forum just to say mean things to get fans upset. They see the good news and know we still have a chance for a sequel but want to dash our hopes anyway. Now, it is time for us to see it too!

Serenity is #1 on Amazon and that is just based on preoders. There are some people like my brother who saw the movie, liked it, and will buy it on DVD when it comes out even though they know very little about the tv series. So, there is still hope for great DVD sales.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 12:47 PM

ZOID


flywithmecaptn and fellow 'coats:

Well, I'm still hopin'. It's all I've been doing since Firefly went "on hiatus" back in December of 2002. I heard the movie was coming in January '04 and got all excited. I read the stories of folks sneaking onto the lot during filming in summer of '04 and got more excited. I heard rumors -- post-production -- that Serenity would be released direct-to-DVD rather than theatrically and got worried. Then it was announced that the BDM would definitely be released in theatres 20 April 2005, and I was relieved. Then, just months short of that goal (like, November of '04) came the news that we had been bumped to the last day of September '05. Another six months to wait?!

But wait we did. What choice did we have? Could we just quit the love of our lives and find some other girl to court? Not a chance.

As September approached, the country was ravaged by not one but two disastrous Gulf Coast hurricanes. Quite apart from the heart-rending devastation in coastal areas, fuel prices hit every American pocketbook, per-gallon gasoline prices increasing by over a dollar and a quarter, nationwide. Folks, that's a lot of entertainment budget drying up. The movie came and went while the nation mourned and tightened its collective belt.

Mind you, I still paid for 12 seats, personally. But, the theatres were mostly empty, not just for Serenity, but for everything else showing at the time (you know, like that big-budget Jodie Foster flick, whatchamacallit). Bad timing, similar to F*x's singleminded devotion to the MLB playoffs of 2002, spelled doom for our chances at the box office, this time out. Our 'BDM' is a 'BDBOF' (Big Damn Box Office Failure).

Them's the facts. But we ain't through yet. It's just time for us to pull off some of our usual thrillin' heroics, yet again. Other movies -- like "Underworld" and Universal's "Chronicles of Riddick", for example -- have done enough business in DVD sales to offset less than enthusiastic 'box' and sparked talks about sequels.

We, the Browncoats, can trump those performances and get Serenity into the black again -- both artistically and fiscally -- where she belongs.

It's all about belief, as the good Shepherd Book put it. I believe we will make Serenity a success. We didn't have enough time to make her a box office success; but, we can buy DVDs 'til the cows come home, without the burden of a theatre-owner's whimsy.

And, finally, I believe we will see our ship and crew again, on the big screen or small; because this is a free-market society, and if we throw enough money at the studio, someone will shimmy on over and scoop it up, and serve us up another helping.

So, I'm not just hoping, I am believing that Serenity will fly again...



Faithfully,

zoid

P.S.
And please, God... Er, Joss... Let Zoe be pregnant with Wash's child in the sequel, as she revealed was her heart's desire, in HoG. It's the only way to partly make up for his death. I have longed to hear Gina -- a classically trained mezzosoprano -- croon a lullaby since that episode. How heart-breaking would that be? Maybe The Ballad of Serenity, hmmm?
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

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Monday, December 19, 2005 1:04 PM

MIRAMEL


someone said summit about where are our angels- i say we be our own damn angels :) we've done a decent job sofar, no?






huzzah for the inevtiable eventual revival :)

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Monday, December 19, 2005 1:36 PM

PSOLARIS


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:

P.S.
And please, God... Er, Joss... Let Zoe be pregnant with Wash's child in the sequel, as she revealed was her heart's desire, in HoG. It's the only way to partly make up for his death. I have longed to hear Gina -- a classically trained mezzosoprano -- croon a lullaby since that episode. How heart-breaking would that be? Maybe The Ballad of Serenity, hmmm?
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'



OMG, that would totally make me cry. But it would be beautiful!

Good post Zoid! Not only keep the faith, but keep the BELIEF!!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Monday, December 19, 2005 1:46 PM

ZOID



Psolaris wrote:
Quote:

OMG, that would totally make me cry. But it would be beautiful! ...

I'd be blubberin'. Whatcha reckon? Girl or boy child? I'm thinkin' little warrior girl; but, I'd be happy with a wiseacre little boy playin' with dinosaurs, too.

I'll still miss the best depiction of actual married life, ever. But at least I wouldn't have to live with Zoe's total desolation...



Wistfully,

-zed

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Monday, December 19, 2005 2:49 PM

RIVER6213


Zoe, pregnant in the sequel? Now thats a really clever idea.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 2:50 PM

MIKAMOM


Every time someone BELIEVES in Firefly/Serenity, a farie gets a gun and blows a troll's head off.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 2:58 PM

CYBERSNARK


I'm with Zoid. We ain't through yet. The very fact that we're all here testifies to the fact that this isn't just a passing thing.

And yeah, I can just hear Zoe's tired, soulful voice gently crooning, almost lost among Serenity's reassuring rumble. . .

Take my love,
Take my land,
Take me where I cannot stand. . .

Fade to black for the closing credits. Won't be a dry eye in the house, I guarantee.

-----
We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 3:25 PM

SAMEERTIA


Stop!
Yer makin' me cry just thinking about it!

AND Yes! We can be our own angels!
Just help me get these horns off my head and find me some wings, 'kay?

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Monday, December 19, 2005 3:41 PM

SERENYTY


He speaks so kindly of us browncoats!

Aw, he likes us!!!

~A message from Serenyty~

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Monday, December 19, 2005 4:02 PM

RUALION


I still say we just send Wash to the Genesis planet. It worked before.
Little Wash, huh? Name him Dri.
I am still optimistic about another series/film. However, you were right about this being a crappy year box-office-wise. I work at a movie theater and not even "Star Wars" or "Harry Potter" or even "King Kong" have pulled us out of our slump. This confuses me, as most of the movies I've seen this year I enjoyed. Case in point, I saw "Serenity," having never seen the show. I enjoyed it, Netflixed the series and wound up getting my wife hooked. Then WE went and saw the movie.
We're totally geeking out on this.

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Monday, December 19, 2005 4:40 PM

FOLLOWMAL




Thank you Zoid.

Made me get goosebumps and a tear in my eye...


I can hear that lullaby too. And I can see how thrilled Kaylee would be with a baby around!

I do believe in Fireflyflan angels, I do!
And I'm stayin' and believin' with all my might!

"Once you're in Serenity, you never leave. You just learn to live there." Zoe

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Monday, December 19, 2005 5:07 PM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


Thank you all, especially Zoid for the woderful, hopeful, faithful replies to the post.

It's great to see there are many folk that feel the same way I do.


Keep the faith! Keep flyin'.

Thanks guys, you made my day!



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Monday, December 19, 2005 5:20 PM

SAMEERTIA


*finishes sawing off horns with a hack-saw*

Well, when the economy is down, the first place people cut back is entertainment, and at 10$ a ticket in some places it's just too expensive to go to the movies every week. I've tried to pick and choose what I see this year pretty carefully - if it needs the big screen for effects etc, I'll see it in the theater. If not, wait for DVD.

Of course, I saw Serenity four times, and Potter twice... soooooooooooo....

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Monday, December 19, 2005 11:15 PM

NELLIE


OH, NOOOOOO, NOT WASH, PLEASE NOT WASH!!!! I haven't seen Serenity yet---no, it can't be true---tell me it's not true that he got killed!!

All the Nine have to be there, they all have to continue on in the future---you break my heart! And no baby ever makes up for the loss of a man---it's too awful for words. I don't think I can even bear to watch the movie now---that last Firefly episode "The Message" was heartrending enough.

The only one who gives me a tiny glimmer of hope is RUALion:

Quote:

Originally posted by RUALion:
I still say we just send Wash to the Genesis planet. It worked before.


Yes, yes, good idea! I don't care if it's daft---I was so glad when Spock was brought back again.

I can't bear the thought of FF/Serenity without Wash. Please bring him back, Joss!!

Quote:

We're totally geeking out on this

Me, too! (I even hope they bring back Jubal Early---he was a great villain.)



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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:55 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


I'd like to have Wash back but it still wouldn't be the same without the preacher man.

Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:06 AM

RIVER6213


Keep on posting preacher man

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:11 AM

NELLIE


Quote:

Originally posted by flywithmecaptn:
I'd like to have Wash back but it still wouldn't be the same without the preacher man.



You mean Book gets killed, too? Well, that's just ruined my week even more! I wish somebody had put a spoiler notice on this thread before I read it.

Of course it wouldn't be the same without the preacher man---he's wonderful!

I can't bear it. I'm going to just go watch Firefly again to cheer up, the one where he says to Jayne, "There'll be poems and songs!"

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:19 AM

PSOLARIS


Man...someone put a spoiler tag on this thread for Nellie!

Or, Nellie, quit reading, LOL.

Don't worry dear, Joss has a plan, and we're just not aware of what it is yet. You'll still love the movie, I swear!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:27 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


Quote:

Originally posted by Psolaris:
Man...someone put a spoiler tag on this thread for Nellie!

Or, Nellie, quit reading, LOL.

Don't worry dear, Joss has a plan, and we're just not aware of what it is yet. You'll still love the movie, I swear!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"



Sorry Psolaris - It didn't start out that way. It's on there now



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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:34 AM

NELLIE


Yep, you're right, Psolaris---I'm just going to have to quit reading these threads for a while, before I find out the whole story! Bye!

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:35 AM

PSOLARIS


LOL, I know. I chuckled at it all actually. I wasn't poking at you necessarily dear. You're right, it didn't start out that way.

Flywithmecaptn

Nellie

Keep the faith, keep the hope, keep the belief!!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:39 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


Quote:

Originally posted by Psolaris:
LOL, I know. I chuckled at it all actually. I wasn't poking at you necessarily dear. You're right, it didn't start out that way.

Flywithmecaptn

Nellie

Keep the faith, keep the hope, keep the belief!!

Psolaris

"Ten percent of nuthin' is...let me do the math here...nuthin' into nuthin'...carry the nuthin'"




I know Psolaris....and what happens sometimes is you just get to talkig and then ramblin' that you forget some folks in the verse haven't seen Serenity yet. I point well taken though.

I will keep the faith. Hopin' sales go big today.



Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:56 AM

NELLIE


Of course it's nobody's fault! People can't help talking freely about it. I'm still going to stop reading for a while, though, just in case! And I'll keep the faith, too, just like you said...

Psolaris

Flywithmecaptn

See you later!

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:14 AM

BERNADETTE


Bravo Zoid

I'm so damn proud to be a Browncoat.



"She's tore up plenty, but she'll fly true"



Bernie

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 9:08 AM

JERRYT


Lol, I also got spoiled for the two deaths by reading these threads since I am a late Firefly entry, and didn't see the BDM at the theater.

But, I know I'm gonna love the movie anyway. Just picked it up at Best Buy, but have to work late today, Waaaaa!!

BTW the DVD series boxset had a row to itself and there were only three sets left out of what must have been 20 originally, woot!

JerryT
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"I'll be in my bunk"

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:36 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


I can't take the suspense any longer. I want to now how the DVD sales did today.



Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:30 PM

CASIVONA


In regard to Wash being resurrected:
Wash could come back... maybe not in corporeal form. River seems like she should be very good at channeling the dead... I'm just imagining her at the helm of Serenity with ghosty-Wash helping her fly and Mal in the other chair fighting over the flight controls. Not sure what to do about Book though.


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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 1:39 PM

CBY


Quote:

Originally posted by Casivona:
I'm just imagining her at the helm of Serenity with ghosty-Wash helping her fly and Mal in the other chair fighting over the flight controls. Not sure what to do about Book though.



That could be an easy way so save a lot of money: They show the ghosty-Wash as a translucent flying hawaiian shirt

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:50 PM

PINBALLWIZARD


Good news at my local video store! Every Serenity DVD and video was checked out. All that was left was one fullscreen version People got the signal, AND IT'S NEVER GONNA STOP!!!!!

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Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:58 PM

LILLYBELLA


I waited with great excitement for Serenity to be release and came home and watched it and all the out takes... I love this show and pray that there is another movie or movies coming out. I loved every part of the movie except when wash and book died. Serenity has more of a story to tell and her voice just needs to be heard....

Lillybella

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:39 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


The story must go on. It just must.

Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:44 AM

SAMEERTIA


I can't get my brown coat on over this stupid wings....

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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:18 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.


Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
flywithmecaptn and fellow 'coats:

Well, I'm still hopin'. It's all I've been doing since Firefly went "on hiatus" back in December of 2002. I heard the movie was coming in January '04 and got all excited. I read the stories of folks sneaking onto the lot during filming in summer of '04 and got more excited. I heard rumors -- post-production -- that Serenity would be released direct-to-DVD rather than theatrically and got worried. Then it was announced that the BDM would definitely be released in theatres 20 April 2005, and I was relieved. Then, just months short of that goal (like, November of '04) came the news that we had been bumped to the last day of September '05. Another six months to wait?!

But wait we did. What choice did we have? Could we just quit the love of our lives and find some other girl to court? Not a chance.

As September approached, the country was ravaged by not one but two disastrous Gulf Coast hurricanes. Quite apart from the heart-rending devastation in coastal areas, fuel prices hit every American pocketbook, per-gallon gasoline prices increasing by over a dollar and a quarter, nationwide. Folks, that's a lot of entertainment budget drying up. The movie came and went while the nation mourned and tightened its collective belt.

Mind you, I still paid for 12 seats, personally. But, the theatres were mostly empty, not just for Serenity, but for everything else showing at the time (you know, like that big-budget Jodie Foster flick, whatchamacallit). Bad timing, similar to F*x's singleminded devotion to the MLB playoffs of 2002, spelled doom for our chances at the box office, this time out. Our 'BDM' is a 'BDBOF' (Big Damn Box Office Failure).

Them's the facts. But we ain't through yet. It's just time for us to pull off some of our usual thrillin' heroics, yet again. Other movies -- like "Underworld" and Universal's "Chronicles of Riddick", for example -- have done enough business in DVD sales to offset less than enthusiastic 'box' and sparked talks about sequels.

We, the Browncoats, can trump those performances and get Serenity into the black again -- both artistically and fiscally -- where she belongs.

It's all about belief, as the good Shepherd Book put it. I believe we will make Serenity a success. We didn't have enough time to make her a box office success; but, we can buy DVDs 'til the cows come home, without the burden of a theatre-owner's whimsy.

And, finally, I believe we will see our ship and crew again, on the big screen or small; because this is a free-market society, and if we throw enough money at the studio, someone will shimmy on over and scoop it up, and serve us up another helping.

So, I'm not just hoping, I am believing that Serenity will fly again...



Faithfully,

zoid

P.S.
And please, God... Er, Joss... Let Zoe be pregnant with Wash's child in the sequel, as she revealed was her heart's desire, in HoG. It's the only way to partly make up for his death. I have longed to hear Gina -- a classically trained mezzosoprano -- croon a lullaby since that episode. How heart-breaking would that be? Maybe The Ballad of Serenity, hmmm?




Damn Zoid, I have missed having you around the site my friend, and it is exactly this type of post that I missed.

Zoid hit it right on the head browncoats. People laughed when we said that we weren't done, and we got a movie. Okay, so people didn't turn out except for the browncoats and those sci fi fans that have more than a limited scope of what good sci fi is. That's the past, over & done with, nothing to be done about it now. No sense focusing on it anymore.

What we need to focus on is what we do have, and what we have is the Serenity DVD. We need to hype it up. We need to buy it, give it as gifts, and push it harder than we ever pushed series DVD. Our hopes for a sequel ride on the DVD sales.

DVD sales carried us before. It is because of DVD sales that we got the BDM. Now DVD sales will make the difference again.

I know some have complained that the burden shouldn't be on them, that they should not be expected to buy more than one DVD. I don't think anyone expects you to do more than you can. If you can only afford one DVD, then just buy one. Of course that doesn't mean you can't talk up the DVD to your friends & family. You can loan that DVD out to get people interested. Do what you can, that is all I or anyone can ask of you.

Keep flyin' browncoats. The story ain't done yet. Ignore the naysayers. They were wrong about us before. I'm thinking we'll rise again.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org


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Wednesday, December 21, 2005 7:26 AM

FLYWITHMECAPTN


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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Quote:

Originally posted by zoid:
flywithmecaptn and fellow 'coats:

Well, I'm still hopin'. It's all I've been doing since Firefly went "on hiatus" back in December of 2002. I heard the movie was coming in January '04 and got all excited. I read the stories of folks sneaking onto the lot during filming in summer of '04 and got more excited. I heard rumors -- post-production -- that Serenity would be released direct-to-DVD rather than theatrically and got worried. Then it was announced that the BDM would definitely be released in theatres 20 April 2005, and I was relieved. Then, just months short of that goal (like, November of '04) came the news that we had been bumped to the last day of September '05. Another six months to wait?!

But wait we did. What choice did we have? Could we just quit the love of our lives and find some other girl to court? Not a chance.

As September approached, the country was ravaged by not one but two disastrous Gulf Coast hurricanes. Quite apart from the heart-rending devastation in coastal areas, fuel prices hit every American pocketbook, per-gallon gasoline prices increasing by over a dollar and a quarter, nationwide. Folks, that's a lot of entertainment budget drying up. The movie came and went while the nation mourned and tightened its collective belt.

Mind you, I still paid for 12 seats, personally. But, the theatres were mostly empty, not just for Serenity, but for everything else showing at the time (you know, like that big-budget Jodie Foster flick, whatchamacallit). Bad timing, similar to F*x's singleminded devotion to the MLB playoffs of 2002, spelled doom for our chances at the box office, this time out. Our 'BDM' is a 'BDBOF' (Big Damn Box Office Failure).

Them's the facts. But we ain't through yet. It's just time for us to pull off some of our usual thrillin' heroics, yet again. Other movies -- like "Underworld" and Universal's "Chronicles of Riddick", for example -- have done enough business in DVD sales to offset less than enthusiastic 'box' and sparked talks about sequels.

We, the Browncoats, can trump those performances and get Serenity into the black again -- both artistically and fiscally -- where she belongs.

It's all about belief, as the good Shepherd Book put it. I believe we will make Serenity a success. We didn't have enough time to make her a box office success; but, we can buy DVDs 'til the cows come home, without the burden of a theatre-owner's whimsy.

And, finally, I believe we will see our ship and crew again, on the big screen or small; because this is a free-market society, and if we throw enough money at the studio, someone will shimmy on over and scoop it up, and serve us up another helping.

So, I'm not just hoping, I am believing that Serenity will fly again...



Faithfully,

zoid

P.S.
And please, God... Er, Joss... Let Zoe be pregnant with Wash's child in the sequel, as she revealed was her heart's desire, in HoG. It's the only way to partly make up for his death. I have longed to hear Gina -- a classically trained mezzosoprano -- croon a lullaby since that episode. How heart-breaking would that be? Maybe The Ballad of Serenity, hmmm?




Damn Zoid, I have missed having you around the site my friend, and it is exactly this type of post that I missed.

Zoid hit it right on the head browncoats. People laughed when we said that we weren't done, and we got a movie. Okay, so people didn't turn out except for the browncoats and those sci fi fans that have more than a limited scope of what good sci fi is. That's the past, over & done with, nothing to be done about it now. No sense focusing on it anymore.

What we need to focus on is what we do have, and what we have is the Serenity DVD. We need to hype it up. We need to buy it, give it as gifts, and push it harder than we ever pushed series DVD. Our hopes for a sequel ride on the DVD sales.

DVD sales carried us before. It is because of DVD sales that we got the BDM. Now DVD sales will make the difference again.

I know some have complained that the burden shouldn't be on them, that they should not be expected to buy more than one DVD. I don't think anyone expects you to do more than you can. If you can only afford one DVD, then just buy one. Of course that doesn't mean you can't talk up the DVD to your friends & family. You can loan that DVD out to get people interested. Do what you can, that is all I or anyone can ask of you.

Keep flyin' browncoats. The story ain't done yet. Ignore the naysayers. They were wrong about us before. I'm thinking we'll rise again.

__________________________________________

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

Richmond, VA & surrounding area Firefly Fans:

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/richmondbrowncoats/

http://www.richmondbrowncoats.org





Here, here browncoat1

Thank you for your comments. Everytime a post is added to the thread like this it keeps my hopes high and helps me believe that we can make a difference and who knows, maybe the show will come back. If not, maybe a movie will, just like the first time.

I did buy my DVD yesterday!




Don't forget to call him "Sir." He likes that.

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Thursday, December 22, 2005 5:42 PM

WUHDEMA


I am new to the Firefly/Serenity Verse, and I must say that I am impressed. I was never a "Buffy" fan so when I heard that Joss was making a new series I passed on it, I couldn't have been more wrong. It was not until the buzz of the movie that I started to take notice of the show, this mostly due to you all. The devotion you have shown to this series is something truly amazing. It was the fact that you all fought to get this movie made that caused me to rent the series. I was hooked from the start. I watched the first two discs then promptly went out and bought the series. Then Tuesday I actually had to stand in line to buy the movie.

You all should be proud of the work you have done. You made it possible for the story to continue, and for that I am in awe. I am proud to say that I have joined the ranks of the many Browncoats out there, and am eager to do my part.

Keep flying

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