New SciFi Wire Poll.. Should Harrison Ford continue as Indiana Jones or should Nathan Fillion be considered? by FollowMal

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New SciFi Wire Poll.. Should Harrison Ford continue as Indiana Jones or should Nathan Fillion be considered?

POSTED BY: FOLLOWMAL
UPDATED: Monday, March 27, 2006 14:41
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Monday, March 20, 2006 2:51 PM

I don't like both of them:

- Ford is too old
- Fillion lacks experience. If he had proved himself in more (successful) big scale movies, he could do it. But not at this point.

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Monday, March 20, 2006 3:07 PM

INDYBLUES

Quote:
Originally posted by GWEK:
Only reason Indiana Jones "isn't like James Bond" is a timing issue. Folks felt exactly the same way about Connery and Bond at the time (and Connery wasn't even the first guy to play Bond!)

Huh?? Wasn't Dr. No the first Bond film?? and wasn't Sean Connery in that film??

Please, enlighten me, 'cause I always thought Connery was the first.
'Blues

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Monday, March 20, 2006 3:27 PM

NCBROWNCOAT

This is a hard one. Grew up with Harrison Ford as Indy.The thing is I really can't see Harrison Ford as a 60ish Indy. The 4th movie should have been done long ago and the character retired. Really no one else can play Indy.

The same with Mal, no one but Nathan can play him either but if the role of Indy is recast as a younger man, Nathan is the only actor that could do the character justice.

Edit: Nathan would have to have several scenes without a shirt and also tight pants.

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Monday, March 20, 2006 5:23 PM

GELASSENHEIT

Quote:
Originally posted by ncbrowncoat:
This is a hard one. Grew up with Harrison Ford as Indy.The thing is I really can't see Harrison Ford as a 60ish Indy. The 4th movie should have been done long ago and the character retired. Really no one else can play Indy.

The same with Mal, no one but Nathan can play him either but if the role of Indy is recast as a younger man, Nathan is the only actor that could do the character justice.

Edit: Nathan would have to have several scenes without a shirt and also tight pants.

I totally agree. Loved Harrison Ford in this role, but c'mon. This will be so unbelieveable if he starred in Indy 4.

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Monday, March 20, 2006 7:57 PM

CABOT

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Huh?? Wasn't Dr. No the first Bond film?? and wasn't Sean Connery in that film?? -- IndyBlues

The new flim they are making titled Casino Royale is actually a remake of the 1967 Bond film which starred David Niven. The Niven version, was treated as a spoof and also starred Peter Sellers who had previously teamed up with Niven in the original Pink Panther movie.

However, back in 1954 on a (CBS television) dramatic anthology series called Climax, Casino Royale was shown as a pilot for a possible James Bond TV Series. Veteran television actor Barry Nelson played Bond. That makes it the first performance of James Bond...8 years before Dr. No.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:15 AM

RABBIT2

Quote:
However, back in 1954 on a (CBS television) dramatic anthology series called Climax, Casino Royale was shown as a pilot for a possible James Bond TV Series. Veteran television actor Barry Nelson played Bond. That makes it the first performance of James Bond...8 years before Dr. No

Hmmm.... Hard to imagine Bond working on television back then. I doubt if it was shown on British TV either.
The 1967 Casino Royal was a complete mess, they threw out all of Flemmings original plot and it ended up as a loosly linked series of scetches featuring various actors of the period.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:55 AM

MIGHTYROAR

Quote:
Originally posted by MajorClod:

I'm sorry, but Ford owns this role.

In the same way, Connery owned the James Bond role, but people age and times move on. Brosnan was an amazing Bond, and for many people was their favourite bond. Though I like the old bond films, I like the new ones too. I think, as long as they chose the right actor, they could move away from the ever-ageing Ford, and the same thing will happen to the Indy role. Ford is now 63 which is, i'm sorry to say way too unbelieveable for an action hero like Indy. They need to find another actor to fill his shoes. I used to think that Dennis Quaid would also be a good indy, but Nathan could definitely fill the role.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:06 AM

MIGHTYROAR

Quote:
Originally posted by Cabot:
Quote:
Huh?? Wasn't Dr. No the first Bond film?? and wasn't Sean Connery in that film?? -- IndyBlues

The new flim they are making titled Casino Royale is actually a remake of the 1967 Bond film which starred David Niven. The Niven version, was treated as a spoof and also starred Peter Sellers who had previously teamed up with Niven in the original Pink Panther movie.

However, back in 1954 on a (CBS television) dramatic anthology series called Climax, Casino Royale was shown as a pilot for a possible James Bond TV Series. Veteran television actor Barry Nelson played Bond. That makes it the first performance of James Bond...8 years before Dr. No.

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Don't forget Bob Holness, who was the second actor to play Bond, in a 1957 radio version of Moonraker.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:08 AM

JAYNESBUNKWOMAN

Quote:
Originally posted by CBY:
I don't like both of them:
- Fillion lacks experience. If he had proved himself in more (successful) big scale movies, he could do it. But not at this point.

Yikes - hope you don't get lynched!

Poll now stands at 43% Ford and 42% Fillion

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:16 AM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS

I had to go with the 'golden years' choice. I've heard Connery is supposedly playing the father again, so that's reason enough to see Ford as Indy.

Anything else on the big screen would just be wrong.

On another hand, I've heard Matt Damon will be playing Mal in the sequel to Serenity.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 7:49 AM

TARSIA

I went with Golden Age. Ford could still and should do an Old Indy fine. Younger Indy could be done great by Nathan, I think.

But Matt Damon as Mal would lead to much lynchin'.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:19 AM

JMUFFIN

Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:30 AM

INDYBLUES

Quote:
Originally posted by JMuffin:
Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

"Shudder"

Now THAT'S blasphemy.
'Blues

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:27 AM

JMUFFIN

Quote:
Originally posted by IndyBlues:
Quote:
Originally posted by JMuffin:
Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

"Shudder" Now THAT'S blasphemy.
'Blues

haha! I almost added the vomiting thing to my own post, but figured just saying it got the same point across.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:37 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by Cabot:

The new flim they are making titled Casino Royale is actually a remake of the 1967 Bond film which starred David Niven. The Niven version, was treated as a spoof and also starred Peter Sellers who had previously teamed up with Niven in the original Pink Panther movie.

Not exactly. Same name, sure. But the new film is based on Flemming's novel. The Niven spoof just used the name.

It's like saying Batman Begins is a remake of the Adam West Batman. Shared source material does nessesarily mean remake.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:53 AM

MEKAN

No more Indy......let it be done.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:07 AM

REAVERMAN

I think Nathan would make a better choice for Indi than Ford because, sad to say, Harrison is just gettin' too damn old to do it. Plus it would give Nathan an excuse to use his trusty browncoat again(the whole whip thing mixed in would be cool too!)

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:12 AM

INDEPENDANT

Reply to the question as wether Connery was the first bond?
The first person to play Bond was David Niven in 1967 in Casino Royal. A spoof Bond.
Although Ian Fleming had David Niven in mind when he was writing his books.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:23 PM

VISAGEEZA

I've just checked the results and believe it or not, they are practically neck-a-neck.
Out of 11,190 votes Ford has 43% and Fillion has 42%.

I have to say myself, until I saw Firefly and probably more so Serenity I couldn't imagine anyone else playing Indy, but now I really can see Nathan Fillion in the role. He's got just the right balance of tough-guy, fun, fallable to be right in the role and still be different enough from Ford to bring something else to it.

Quote:
Originally posted by independant:
Reply to the question as wether Connery was the first bond?
The first person to play Bond was David Niven in 1967 in Casino Royal. A spoof Bond.
Although Ian Fleming had David Niven in mind when he was writing his books.

Not so. Dr.No came out in 1962, Casion Royale was 1967. Connery was first.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:03 PM

FIREFLYGAL

Just as Nathan never wants to see someone else play Mal. I think Indy "belongs" to Harrison and I would not want to see Nathan in the Indy role. If Nathan took the roll it would also be hypocritical and I would be very disappointed in him.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:15 PM

CEDRIC

I think it would be interesting, simply because Ford went from playing the captain of a beat-up smuggling spaceship to playing Indiana Jones, and now they're talking about Fillion doing the same thing. Funny, huh?

Doesn't Fillion talk about Ford as an influence in one of the commentaries? Looks like it's time to watch the commentaries again!

All this has me thinking about how shiny it would be if Whedon wrote the script for an Indiana Jones movie. Now, that would be great.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 4:46 PM

ECGORDON

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Quote:
Originally posted by visageeza:
I've just checked the results and believe it or not, they are practically neck-a-neck.
Out of 11,190 votes Ford has 43% and Fillion has 42%.

I have to say myself, until I saw Firefly and probably more so Serenity I couldn't imagine anyone else playing Indy, but now I really can see Nathan Fillion in the role. He's got just the right balance of tough-guy, fun, fallable to be right in the role and still be different enough from Ford to bring something else to it.

Quote:
Originally posted by independant:
Reply to the question as wether Connery was the first bond?
The first person to play Bond was David Niven in 1967 in Casino Royal. A spoof Bond.
Although Ian Fleming had David Niven in mind when he was writing his books.

Not so. Dr.No came out in 1962, Casion Royale was 1967. Connery was first.

Both wrong. Barry Nelson was the first actor to portray Bond, in a television version of Casino Royale in 1954. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 9:47 PM

BLUEEYEDBRIGADIER

Ok...while this isn't part of the original thread idea, I think it would help the point some are making....

James Bond....first starred in a book series by Ian Fleming starting in 1952 with Casino Royale and ran till '64 with "The Man With the Golden Gun." First visual portrayal of James Bond was the 1950's CBS tv movie of "Casino Royale" where Bond was a Yank ("Card Sharp Jimmy Bond," anyone?) and Felix Leiter was a Brit (sacrelige, I know). First "official" (i.e. United Artists distributed, EON Productions-made) Bond was 1962's "Dr. No" with Connery.

Now...this means 6 men have played Bond before the current incarnation of Daniel Craig. However, some would argue that both the CBS tv movie and the 1967 spoof (along with the remake of Thunderball as "Never Say Never Again") aren't "official" Bond movies, so Nelson and Niven (along with every major character in the spoof, since a gag was to name all the MI6 agents "James Bond" to confuse the enemy) are out. That leaves Sean Connery, George Lazenby, Roger Moore, Timothy Dalton and Pierce Brosnan. Lots of people have varying favourites, though most swing either for Connery or Brosnan (depending on the generation).

So.....changing the actor can work for film series. Hell, no explanation was ever given for the changes between actors for James Bond and Fleming created a backstory that would make Bond around 86 years old right now...a might older than Harrison Ford's spritely 63. Plus, Paul Bettany has stated Ford can still take a pounding like always. Certainly looked like he was kicking pigu in "Firewall," though the movie was rather...mediocre. So while I have always enjoyed Ford as Indy and cannot wait for the 4th film....any future work with the character would need some new blood. which leaves the door open for our favourite captain;)

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:41 PM

VISAGEEZA

Quote:

Both wrong. Barry Nelson was the first actor to portray Bond, in a television version of Casino Royale in 1954. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 11:01 PM

MIGHTYROAR

Quote:
Originally posted by ecgordon:

Both wrong. Barry Nelson was the first actor to portray Bond, in a television version of Casino Royale in 1954. http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0310853/

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and as I said earler, Bob Holness was the second actor to play Bond, in a 1957 radio version of Moonraker. Sean Connery was third, but who can deny that it was connery who really owned the role - the first to bring the character into mainstream viewing.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 7:40 AM

STOM

I was voter number 12,994 and Nathan is currently leading by 1%

Nathan - 43%
Ford - 42%
Depends- 15%

I'd love to think it was i that tipped the scales... Hah hah.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:42 PM

MIDNIGHTRAMBLER

I'd rather see him return as Malcolm Reynolds.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:47 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Quote:
Originally posted by N0Skillz:
everyone should be aware, that at this point in time, Nathan only has 33% of the votes, while 51% think Harrison should be doing it until he falls over in his walker and breaks a hip.

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It's a tough role to fill, an unenviable task. Re-makes can be very difficult and trying to fit into some one elses shoes is always tough.

If however Harrison does an average job, people might start asking 'Why didn't they get Nathan' - by then nobody will care who fills Indiana's shoes and Fillion will be first in-line for Indy-5 ( if there is one

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:45 PM

N0SKILLZ

Haha, good point. But after seeing Harrisons latest movie. Not so excited about Indy 4, lol. But he did kill a dude with a kitchen appliance.....

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:55 PM

GIXXER

I'm not sure I really want a new Indy film. The first one was great, and could have been left at that. Short Round and Willie were distinct harbingers of the cutesy doom that was to be that Binks fellow.

I'm not sure I could face another Prequel-style disaster that, no matter how dire, would be a massive unstoppable juggernaut of a franchise whether we liked it or not.

(Unless, of course, it was actually good...)

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:01 AM

REAVERMAN

Hey, can someone get me a direct link to this poll, 'cause I can't find the damn thing?

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:09 AM

N0SKILLZ

*hint hint* actually read the first post.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:05 AM

REAVERMAN

actually, I tried that one and just got lost. Maybe I'm just an idiot, lemme check again.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:22 AM

REAVERMAN

yep, I'm an idiot. I still cant find the gorram poll! WTF, man, WTF!

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:27 AM

DANIELFYRE

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its on the right of the page.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:29 AM

CHINDI

ah hell .. go vote for the Capn.. !

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:36 AM

FLIPDOG

What!? These little polls on scifi are getting really stupid. I mean, I like Nathan, but jeez...who comes up with that idea and posts these things?

Personally, I think Indiana Jones is dead...it ended well, they rode off into the sunset and all was well with the world. And if Lucas has his way, the next one (please don't let it come out) will be about some stupid haunted castle. (Fun Fact: That's what he wanted Last Crusade to be about) Personally, I think we should just let the Indiana Jones pass along as two great movies (and one bleh) in time. Besides...Nathan would be written to play Indy as Mal...and thats not the point of those movies. Indy has decent, but not a whole super lot of depth and Mal is soaking with character it could make one sick if they didn't like it.

No reason to make a franchise out of it...Harrison is Indy. It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:19 AM

BLACKOUTNIGHTS

Quote:
Originally posted by FlipDog:
It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen.

Shhhhhh...don't give anyone any ideas.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:33 AM

AGIRLYMAN

Hahaha Nathan has the lead now 43-42%! Funny thing to me, Harrison Ford didn't even want to be han solo after the first movie, and wanted the character to be killed off. He should step aside now, and pass the torch to Nathan, who is funnier, and just as tough, or more than old Ford.

P.S. somebody said ben affleck, that just makes me wanna hurt someone.

P.S. Malcolm Jones I presume, lmao!

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:50 PM

ADAMWANKENOBI

Nathan would be a fitting replacement for Ford as Indy, IMHO. But to me, Ford IS Indy, and will always be. Besides, this is the final Indy film, and the script has already been written for someone Ford's age, so...

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:38 PM

GIXXER

"...It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen..."

Flipdog - Scarily prescient / owns a ouija board or just read about it?

The project is already in development by New Line

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057115/releaseinfo

Colin Farrell has been mentioned as Hilts.

Then The Hollywood Bandwagon Effect will take over, and there'll be a spate of prison break films released at about the same time.

G

I'm ashamed of myself.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:12 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain

Quote:
Originally posted by IndyBlues:
Quote:
Originally posted by JMuffin:
Has everyone forgotten about Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and The Sum of All Fears? I think the only logical choice for a younger Indy is Ben Affleck.

"Shudder" Now THAT'S blasphemy.
'Blues

Blasphemy indeed.

And actually, you forgot "The Hunt for Red October". It was the first Jack Ryan movie and he was played by Alec Baldwin. He turned down Patriot Games because he didn't think it was as well writen. Baldwin to Ford is a good example of a franchise passing around the lead role sucessfuly(Sum of All Fears sucked). Though I'm not sure what it means that most folks don't even realize that they're playing the same guy.

As to the poll. It's still 43% to 42% for Nathan.

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 6:15 PM

FLIPDOG

Quote:
Originally posted by Gixxer:
"...It's like asking to remake The Great Escape and having someone else play Steve McQueen..."

Flipdog - Scarily prescient / owns a ouija board or just read about it?

The project is already in development by New Line

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057115/releaseinfo

Colin Farrell has been mentioned as Hilts.

Then The Hollywood Bandwagon Effect will take over, and there'll be a spate of prison break films released at about the same time.

G

I'm ashamed of myself.

Well, looks like another movie I won't be acknowledging existence of.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 6:20 AM

THECRUDMAN

A friend pointed out to me that if the movie is set in the present day, Jones would be much older than ford himself because the movies were set in the 30's and 40's but made much later than that, so if ford is taking up the character at his age the movie would have to take place in the 80's...so just coldwar era james bond type stuff...lame. Whereas if Nathan did it they could set it in the 30's and 40's and have him play the character, or they can set it in the present day, think of it like this: what if Indiana Jones is a legend passed down from person to person like the Dread Pirate Roberts in Princess Bride! that would be awesome!

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Friday, March 24, 2006 8:02 AM

GOBLUEGIRL

Perfect segue into where I wanted to go with this thread, crudman, coincidentally enough.

This age thing is definitely an issue, but let's take a closer look at the math.

Ford is 63, was about 37 when he starred as Indy. He's aged 26 years since then. First movie was set in 1936, so if we assume Indy is the same age as Ford, the new Indy movie would need to be set in 1962, not 1980.

There is a certain leeway there, as Ford could probably get away with his character being up to 10 years younger than him. Which would give us a movie set as early as 1952. Which is more reasonable.

However, Ford is going to have to play a character significantly younger than himself, for one simple reason: Nazis.

Anyone who follows the Indiana Jones series knows that to have a good Indy movie, you must have Nazis as bad guys. Raiders of the Lost Ark? Great movie: great bad guys. Temple of Doom? No Nazis. It sucked. Last Crusade: Nazis AND Sean Connery. It rocked.

Here's my stab at a plot: It's 1953. Indy is still working at the University, but maybe he's being urged to retire. But he wants to go on one last dig.

Indy goes to a site in Argentina and stumbles across Nazi war criminals who have fled there, trying to rebuild the reich.

That could set it up where he'd be older, but it'd be realistic, and but still make room for exotic locales, religious overtones, and Nazi bad guys.

The English language needs a second person plural.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 8:14 AM

WHOME

Is this relaly an issue? Is a new Indiana Jones movie actually in the works?

If it is... I want Ford. I don't like it when different actors portray the same character in one series, unless they're clearly meant to show different ages. Sean Patrick Flannery already was young Indy in a now-defunct t.v. series, and Nathan is about the age Indy was shown to be in the first movie, isn't he? Besides, I can't see any way to keep Indy young without freezing time, and I don't care much for that, either.

They can do what they want to James Bond, but don't mess with Indiana Jones!

(Of course, if they wanted to show the old Indy sort of passing the torch to a younger colleague of similar temperamant, perhaps played by one Nathan Fillion, that would be okay...)

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Friday, March 24, 2006 8:16 AM

WHOME

Quote:
On another hand, I've heard Matt Damon will be playing Mal in the sequel to Serenity.

No! Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Quote:
I'd rather see him return as Malcolm Reynolds.

Yes! Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

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Friday, March 24, 2006 8:25 AM

MALICIOUS

Currently (after my vote):

Nathan 43%

Harrison 42%

Mal-licious

I'm going to add cursing and the hurling about of things to my repertoire.

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Friday, March 24, 2006 8:55 AM

STORYMARK

Quote:
Originally posted by gobluegirl:

However, Ford is going to have to play a character significantly younger than himself, for one simple reason: Nazis.

Except that Spielberg has said for years that since Schindler's List and Saving Private Ryan, he didn't think he'd ever be comfortable useing "Cartoon Nazis" in a film again, even Indy.

I'll agree that the best Indy movies had Nazis as villains, but I'm not ready to automatically assume the new one would/will suck without them. Temple of Doom's problems had less to do with the villains (whom I thought were cool) and more to do with the script and the supporting characters (Willie, Short Round).

Quote:
Originally posted by WHOME:
Is this relaly an issue? Is a new Indiana Jones movie actually in the works?

Yep. There has been for years, but they've never gotten a script that all 3 principals (Lucas, Spielberg and Ford) could agree on. As of about a week ago, they announced that they had settled on a script. Spielberg has said he's taking the rest of this year off (the longest break he's taken in.... his whole career as far as I can tell), durring which time he'll be prepping Indy 4, and a Abe Lincoln bio-pic. Then, next year, he'll do his 2-movie routine that he's developed. First, and action/adventure movie for the summer, and an awards-seeking prestige movie for Christmas. He's done this to varrying degrees of success before (Jurrasic/Schindler, Lost World/Amistad, War of the Worlds/Munich). Actually though, the timings a bit different this time around, as the earliest we'll see Indy 4 is Christmas '07, but they may hold it till summer '08.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, March 24, 2006 1:59 PM

THECRUDMAN

For the 50's and 60's settings the soviets would make good badguys. It is more PC to do cartoon communists than nazis.

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