Was the Operative a Browncoat by the end?? by Chindi

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Was the Operative a Browncoat by the end??

POSTED BY: CHINDI
UPDATED: Monday, April 3, 2006 11:32
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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:29 AM

Ok.. bear with me here.. at the London Propstore they have MANY Serenity items for sale and LOTS of costumes etc. One is the Operative's outfit at the end scene between him and Mal.. it lists all the items and one is the brown coat/jacket..

is THIS symbolic that he had changed sides by the end?? am I stretching here??? LOL

Chindi (must be a S-L-O-W day at work...)

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:34 AM

BOOKSWORD

I dont think that he would become a Browncoat. Personaly I dont think the Independents will rise again because I dont think Miranda will light that fire.

Lets face it they know the Alliance are no good murderous bastards.

I do think that he will stop trying to make a Perfect world and settle for trying to make a better one.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:40 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Interesting, I hadn't noticed that. And 中国人诅咒 you because I don't finish work here for another half an hour and I just know I'll end up watching the entire movie just to see that 中国人诅咒 scene!

I don't know if The Operative is a browncoat exactly, but he's certainly not alliance any more. He admits that himself when he says he is "no longer their man." It comes accross even more strongly in the deleted scene where he asks Mal how he continued after he had lost everything. Even though The Operative feels that he is no-one without the alliance ("There is nothing left to see.") he still can't stomach remaining in their service. For a guy who was okay with ordering the deaths of the men, women and children of Haven, that's really something.

Desktop Hippie: at one with the 'verse

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:51 AM

HOTPOINT

I still see the Operative as an Alliance Patriot. Like many patriots that doesn't mean he necessarily still believes in his current Government.

The Alliance is apparently a democracy (if a rather illiberal one) so if the Miranda revelations bought down the existing administration it wouldn't likely cause Parliament itself to collapse.

"MirandaGate" would just bring another faction to the fore and I can easily imagine the operative serving the new Government if he believed it was better.

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Hurrah, hurrah, when things are at their worst
With cries of “Death or Glory” comes the mighty Twenty-First

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 10:51 AM

BOOKSWORD

I always felt that like a Knight of the old order he belived the blood on his hands where worth the paradise he would help make.

Sort of a moral shield for the innocents cut down by his hand or by his actions.

With that gone he is simply a mass murderer who killed women and children. Before their death had a purpose, he was a monster made to create a better future for all.

Now in the end, because of the lie he was simply a monster.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:52 AM

CHINDI

Quote:
Originally posted by Booksword:
Now in the end, because of the lie he was simply a monster.

that made me shudder.. how true...

I guess I should have said, not a BROWNCOAT per se.. but an independant.. but more likely a ghost.. fitting in neither world...

Chindi

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 11:56 AM

MEGMAC

Does anyone else feel real pity for the Operative by the end?

Not just because he lost everything like Mal, but he now has to live his crimes whereas before he justified them/saw them as duty. Before he was just doing a job, now he can see the blood on his hands. And Haven wasn't the first massacre.

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Mal: Wheel never stops turning, Badger.
Badger: That only matters to the people on the rim.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:10 PM

AGIRLYMAN

Hahaha I wanted him to join the crew of serenity, I could see Mal trying to keep people from killing him.

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

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Monday, April 3, 2006 10:56 AM

BOOKSWORD

Quote:
Originally posted by agirlyman:
Hahaha I wanted him to join the crew of serenity, I could see Mal trying to keep people from killing him.

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

Your not the only one, but thats mainly because I am a huge fan of CE. BTW your sense of reality gets a bit of a shakeup when you see the Operative in drag vis a via Kinky Boots.

Who knows in another five years when Serenity 2- The Reaver Gambit comes out he will be an esential but relucant member of the crew.

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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice and I KILL YOU.

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Monday, April 3, 2006 11:32 AM

FLINTKNAPPERGENE

Well, as some three hundred have at least looked in at it, this may be monsterously redundant; but URL'd here is MY take on the Operative. Poor guy deserves a happy ending, of sorts.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=7772

F'G

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