Male and Female Imponderables--What's done is done by Tristan

and yes... i have shaved the 'junk' before

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:38 AM

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Originally posted by msg:
ok "WINCE" here's the thing, I keep reading that guys prefer ( ok this is my attempt to keep this from being trashy) good landscaping in a womans um bikini area. So do they??? I don't want to TMI the lot of you unless you want the info ( happy to answer just don't want to overshare)with my bikini area, but I would love to know if guys perfer trimmed, natural, or barren.

Trimmed or barren works for me.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:40 AM

MAL4PREZ

Re the lawn care - and good question as I've been wondering too - here's an extended question for you ladies, and I'm telling you, it's TMI but I need advice! The dating has begun and (I hope) this is now an issue for me!

So, I wax the bikini line, you know, the front/sides. But... as for the more intimate places... how does one wax there? 1) Ouch! 2) I can't reach!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:42 AM

CK- big HUGS and tons of positive and happy thoughts going your way!!!

Tristan-LOL I am so picturing that reaction now:) Probably shouldn't , but too late for that now

Dayve...so was it a problem, would you do it again???

Whitefall- drat you've broken the code...just don't tell anyone where you learned this:)

See I like my "bare floor" and it makes my tat look better so I am keeping it. I just wondered if guys thought it was a bit trashy or something....good to know it's a hit:)

Is it vain that I have smelled my hair like 5 times now?...I love scented shampoo:)

EDIT- Mal4Prez there are two things no one should EVER do themselves...cut their own hair and wax their own bikini zone...get a pro! It's not too expensive. Brazilian's about $20 a month. Landing strip is maybe $10-12. You can go a bit cheaper with beauty schools ( it really isn't dangerous they are supervised and they have trained well and all) if you're worried about pain I know some girls who take advil ( not aspirin as it will cause bruising) before hand.
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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:42 AM

Dayve, did you have a problem with chafing and serious itching when it started to grow back? That was the only drawback to doing it. (Side not, I can't believe I am discussing this...)

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:46 AM

MSG

Your friends are idgamits. Sorry, but there it is. (A) one has to have a lot of action to be a slut and (B) as long as they are practicing safe sex and are not encroaching on someone else'e territory then WHO CARES.

If it makes you feel good - then that is all that matters. I for one, feel better when things are landscaped nicely - and we all know I am a nun (pronounced NONE)

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:47 AM

WHITEFALL

Sorry to let you down, but come on, I'm in theater, it's a natural result that I get a dirty mind.

I was gonna ask to change the subject, but well... this is certainly an imponderable of the opposite genders........ /shrug.

"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:48 AM

yeah, this is too weird....
but back in my swimming/cycling days i stayed as smooth as i could - that passed - and now i'm back to 'normal' (that makes me laugh).... but still keep it trim...and i never really had any bad reaction, of course all men like to sit around the house with a can of Duff beer and scratch where it itches, right?

endeavor to persevere...

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:50 AM

get it done professionally. You don't want any too hot issues in the tender area. And believe me, they have seen it all, so the only one embarrased will be you. Also, many places allow you to wear undies of some sort and you just move the sides over-minimizing the display time.

As for TMI - I wish I had known some of this stuff before engaging in relations - would have helped a great deal.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:51 AM

Dayve, thanks for the understanding. Never biked, but I did spend time in Drama...that is when I learned the value of talcum powder. Nowadays, just the ocassional trim works.

Again, Whitefall, sorry about this, but you can check back now and again until we hit another topic.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:52 AM

MSG

Tats description please, I have forgotten what you have and where.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:53 AM

Tristin... actually, one of the razor companies has recently marketed a shaver just for this purpose - a men's razor.... i haven't tried it, but hear it works pretty well -

endeavor to persevere...

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:54 AM

COPILOT

MSG-Yep losing weight really fast. Aparently sex and joy and random activity causes weight loss. Also not givin a flying f**k. As soon as I stopped caring how much I weighed I started dropping pounds. Skateboarding helps I'm sure but I hurt my ankle pretty badly last week. I'm sitting here and losing weight it's insain. Does mental anguish burn calories?

An I carried such a torch

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:55 AM

celtic infinity symbol right beneath left hipbone in front...am getting Serenity tat on July 28th on same place right hip:)

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:58 AM

This is what I want, front left LOWER abs

I have a lower back tribal with flower and front lower right hip wolf baying at moon

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 8:59 AM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
Re the lawn care - and good question as I've been wondering too - here's an extended question for you ladies, and I'm telling you, it's TMI but I need advice! The dating has begun and (I hope) this is now an issue for me!

So, I wax the bikini line, you know, the front/sides. But... as for the more intimate places... how does one wax there? 1) Ouch! 2) I can't reach!

Willing to do "lawn care"...

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:00 AM

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Originally posted by mal4prez:
The dating has begun

I'm waiting for this phrase to become to true for me!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:02 AM

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Originally posted by copilot:
Aparently sex and joy and random activity causes weight loss.

I tried this once, and I still gained weight.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:03 AM

RUGBUG

I've been wanting a tattoo for sooooooooo long. I think I've made a decision on what, which is what has been delaying things. Here's what I am thinking:

What do y'all think? It's the symbol for "horseman" (although I would like to get that verified before I get inked). It combines my first passion with a slight Firefly/Serenity reference with the chinese and all. Now, just have to think of a place for it.

Weight gain/loss: Breaking up is the best diet. And being happy in new relationship spells disaster. So, apparently, does breaking your arm. Will get that one sorted out right quick.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:05 AM

That is exactly what I want too FMF:) It's perfect. It's simple, elegant, and not too much. I try to keep my tats in a "hidden" location because students aren't allowed them and I don't want to rub it in that I am, plus my reasons for getting them involve personal stuff I don't generally share with students:) Mind you once had a low rider jeans incident where I am hanging lights and I hear a student say " Nice tat Mrs.G" and I about died 'cause my jeans had slipped down low enough for them to see it

EDIT- rugbug that's a great one...put it wherever you want hon ( though I don't reccomend ankle it hurts)
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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:06 AM

Dayve, really? Hmm. Might be a little difficult to find around here, but might be worth the effort. Thanks.

msg, I know this has been said before, but tattoos can be incredibly sexy. Especially in the places that normally do not see the light of day.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:07 AM

I agree with the "hidden" tats. I am getting my Serenity, because that is what I have found since IT left. The whole "Tore up Plenty". But I have a little bit of toning to do first. Else I would get mine on the 23rd (my bday). Don't want the tattooist shoving me fat out of the way!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:09 AM

KENOBIUS

Quote:
Originally posted by Ged:
Quote:
Originally posted by mal4prez:
The dating has begun

I'm waiting for this phrase to become to true for me!

Amen to that.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:10 AM

MAL4PREZ

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:

Willing to do "lawn care"...

*giggles wildly*

GED - yeah, I've got cheesy dating from an online service, which is slow going. I figure, at least I'm trying, which is more than I've done in a long, long time!

Copilot - I have the opposite thing - since I started being happier (referring to TMI in last thread) I've been putting on the pounds. I weigh more than I ever have, but I just can't make myself care enough to exercise.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:12 AM

Back before I knew of Firefly, when I was pursuing my psychology degree (89-94), I toyed with the idea of getting a chinese tattoo...

...which means "to listen" or "to hear", which I thought was fitting for the degree. Kinda glad I didn't now, as I am nowhere near that field anymore.

-EDIT-
I guess posting a black symbol on a black background defeats the purpose, eh?

I'm working on it...
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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:14 AM

Mal4Prez- yeah excercise is sucky, but actually quite worth it:0 Though every time I see one of those commercials for that gym Curves it makes me nuts. All those women all happy smiley and bouncy like they're joyful while working out... Never actually saw anyones face look like that while working out...I certainly don't. For me working out is an hour out of my life each day that drives me nuts but with great results...kinda like doctors appointments:)

EDIT- Tristan love I'd post a pic of my tat after I get it, but that would definitely be TMI for everyone:)
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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:14 AM

lol 75 posts in just a short time...we do loves to talk!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:18 AM

If I were ever to get a tat, it would either be...

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:20 AM

msg, there are other ways for the mature ones to see it without open posting, and there are those of us that would love to see it!

I got the chinese fixed:

It means "to listen" or "to hear". See my above post for more info.

Oh, Penguin, I edited my first .gif file! You inspired me, and it worked!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:20 AM

COPILOT

Yes we do love to type! The only thing I've ever truely considered writing forever on my skin is that Serentiy sybol and now Curtis. I have no idea why he's under my skin so badly. I'm not that kind of person! I fall in love and lust easily but no to this intensity! I'm scared!

An I carried such a torch

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:22 AM

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Originally posted by Tristan:
Oh, Penguin, I edited my first .gif file! You inspired me, and it worked!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:24 AM

ok breathe in and out Copliot...this is good and happy!! Now remember you are a gorgeous woman and this is happening because you deserve a great guy to appreciate you!! does that help?

Tristan- I think my husband would flip a gasket the tat will be a mere 3 inches above "ahem" but I could probably get an up close pic and post that:)

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:24 AM

RUGBUG

Exercise sucks. And I was a physical therapy major in college. I should like it.

I did just run for this weekend for the first time since the injury. My arse hurts. But I wasn't as tired as I thought I would be. Guess all those days in the gym have paid off somewhat.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:30 AM

LOL rugbug... I have a friend with a bumper sticker that says " I run if chased" I used to laugh...then I ran a marathon and OW!! I mostly do a fast walk 3.5-4 mph at a 12 incline on the treadmill and it works well when combined with strength training/weight lifting:)

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:30 AM

MAL4PREZ

MSG - I tried to join the Firefly fit club to guilt trip myself into running a few times a week. Even ran a few times and enjoyed it. It's just hard to maintain - there's always something I'd rather be doing.

Edit: makes me think of a new imponderable - juggly butts anyone? I'm getting jiggly-er by the day. I prefer a trim man, and I'd prefer a trim me, but some guys like it if the Baby's Got Back. Or so I hear.

That what I tell myself, rather than going running.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:30 AM

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Originally posted by copilot:
Yes we do love to type! The only thing I've ever truely considered writing forever on my skin is that Serentiy sybol and now Curtis. I have no idea why he's under my skin so badly. I'm not that kind of person! I fall in love and lust easily but no to this intensity! I'm scared!

Careful with your heart there CP - I've been there many a times and have ended up quite hurt. Get to know him for a while and control this feeling. It's easy to fall quickly, but as they say, moderation in all things.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:34 AM

My advice is to NEVER tattoo the name or likeness of another human being on your body unless it is your child - and even then I don't think I would.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:35 AM

Mal

Taebo - lifts that jiggly bit right up! And I prefer toned. Anyone. Toned.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:38 AM

fairly toned here...though I have to work my ass off ( no pun intended) to do it:)

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:40 AM

RUGBUG

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Originally posted by msg:
LOL rugbug... I have a friend with a bumper sticker that says " I run if chased" I used to laugh...then I ran a marathon and OW!! I mostly do a fast walk 3.5-4 mph at a 12 incline on the treadmill and it works well when combined with strength training/weight lifting:)

See now, that frustrates me. I was in the gym, six days a week, riding recumbent bike for 45 minutes, on treadmill 25 minutes at 3.5 with a 13 incline and legs weights 4 times a week (no arms at this point) and still wasn't losing weight. Diet was good and in appropriate ranges as well. I decided I was working too damn hard for little to no results and backed off to gym three days a week, riding 3-4 and just started the twice a week run. I'm getting ornery, I tell you.

I agree with never tattooing someone's name/likeness. That's part of what keeps me from getting a Serenity tat. What happens if in 15 years I'm like "Firefly? Phffft." (doubt that will happen, but....

I'm fiddling with my "horseman" idea. I think I might have an silhouette of a horse jumping over it. (Sidenote: I do know of a woman who has a horse jumping over a "brush" jump...if you know what I mean.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:47 AM

Rugbug- right with you doll..Like I said I spent 2 years eating less than 1500 calories each day and working out an hour and half with weights and cardio every day 6 days a week to lose my weight and now to keep it off I can only eat 1700-1800 calories and have to work out an hour a day 6 days a week to keep it off. I truly loathe my metabolism (own fault as I ate next to nothing for years as a dancer and it messed up my metabolism) I swear sometimes genetics SUCKS WIDE!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:50 AM

Rug - See I am equating the Serentiy tat I want to how I feel about my life - not as a firefly lover :) So its BONI!

I can run on a treadmill at 12% incline and not lose an ounce.

When they thought I was having a heartattack, they did a stress test and the doctor thinks I am a freak of nature-cardiovascularly I am about 20.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:55 AM

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Originally posted by RugBug:
(Sidenote: I do know of a woman who has a horse jumping over a "brush" jump...if you know what I mean.

yippie-tie-one-on little buckaroo....! (wondering if that tat is a tad distracting at times....hum...)

endeavor to persevere...

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:03 AM

msg, gasket-flipping is bad. If you can, shiny, if not, we understand totally.

Exercise. I was never all into it. When I was younger I could eat my weight in junk food and never gain a pound. Unfortunately, it's catching up to me now. I am not obese at all, just developing the "barrel" shape of my predecessors. I have always been proud of the musculature of my legs, and try to keep them in shape by fighting, etc, but I am losing what little butt I had...not sure where it's going!

I agree. No names in ink. Bad idea, even if you think you'll be with that person the rest of your life.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:03 AM

MAVOURNEEN

After losing both of my parents and getting diagnosed with kidney disease in one 14 month period, I had the Chinese symbol for "Strength of Heart" put on my lower back. It's covered, it's for me, and I touch it when I need strength.

As for lawn care...I used to manage a laser hair removal spa, and from the numbers of women who paid $$$ to get brazillians...permanent brazillians, it would be my professional opinion that many, many men prefer the garden trimmed waaaay down. That, and my own man folk seems to like that as well.

"Have you ever been with a Warrior Woman?"

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:06 AM

So sorry about your parents and all hope you are well, but oooh mavoureen I have questions many questions...ok a few anyway
So is it really permanent? How badly does it hurt? and How many treatments for a permanent brazilian? I keep pondering the lazer thing, but want to be sure it's worth it!

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:11 AM

ok...is exercise imponderable?....
i've always been an active person.... not a couch potato type.....
and i've done a lot of the things active type folks do... but a few years ago i pretty much focused on running, and that kept me in condition...then the dreaded plantar fasciitis got me... for those who've not heard of it - it's also known as heel spurs - and it affects the muscle on the bottom of the foot - (and it usually happens to older runners - insert me).... i had to stop running for a year and man, did i gain weight - i eventually got back on the mountain bike and knocked it down and i've been slowly getting back into running in the last year although i doubt that i'll ever get back to where i was..... and the thing is, i love running - it's the best therapy i could find - just concentrating on placing one foot in front of the other and your mind clears...any troubles i had at the time melted away.... running is as much a state of mind as muscle.... i miss the good old days!

endeavor to persevere...

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:12 AM

MAVOURNEEN

It works amazingly well. I haven't shaved my legs, underarms or wahini in two years, and i have no hair there. It is gone. However, it hurts. It hurts bad. My company used a numbing cream so that helps a lot...but any company that says it is pain free is using the laser at such a low intensity it is a waste of your money. And yes, it is permanent. Make sure you find a company that uses the Lightsheer Diode machines, as those work amazingly well.
It feels a little like a hot needle being poked into your skin everywhere the laser pulses, but the anesthetic really helps, and the results are well worth it.

Edit: Full Brazillian is 6+ treatments spaced every 10-12 weeks apart. Don't EVER let anyone treat you at any interval than that or again, a total waste of money.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:13 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

I've got a tattoo on my lower back too - a celtic knot, vaguely in the shape of an upside down triangle.

I'd wanted to get a tattoo for a long time, and the lower back is always a nice place I think. I've lived in Ireland my whole life, so I've been surrounded by Celtic myth and culture from my earliest days. I always knew I'd get a Celtic symbol. I chose a Celtic knot as it's supposed to symbolise our place in the universe - I was struggling to find my place in the world at the time. Plus it's pretty :)

I've never regretted getting a tattoo. I still love it three years later. I'm seriously considering getting a second one. I'm thinking of getting the word "poet" written in ogham on the back of my neck, or on my upper back between my shoulder blades.

Did it hurt? Not as much as I thought it would, and I'm a total coward when it comes to pain. It's sort of like a cross between a deep scrape and a very mild burn when you get the outline done, and the shading is very, very easy - doesn't really hurt at all. Mine took an hour and a half. It's not large, but it's a fairly complicated design with some shading effects to it, so it took some precision.

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Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:19 AM