Here's something important that nobody's discussed.. by chrisisall

chrisisall:

And I was afraid you were gonna discuss his change in suspenders from traditional leather to space-age rubberband-y material... Whew! I haven't put the finishing touches on my 50-page manifesto on the implications of that change, so I'm not quite ready to discuss it yet.

Sure am glad nobody noticed that!

Erm... Please disregard this post.

Compulsively,

zoid

P.S.
As to the change in the parting of his hair: Good catch! I'm sure it just symbolically represents the change from his happy-go-lucky, Captain-about-town character we all saw in Firefly, to the darker, more malevolent misfit who would tie a kid's dead body to the front of his ship as a hood ornament. Either that or Nat woke up one morning before shooting with such a bad case of 'pillow hair' that the hair-and-makeup folks were forced to go the other way...

P.P.S.
RE: My nascent manifesto. That would be 'braces' for the Britishly-inclined. If Nathan wears 'suspenders', he's keeping it on the 'down low', and we thank him for that.
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Saturday, April 1, 2006 5:58 AM

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Originally posted by zoid:

And I was afraid you were gonna discuss his change in suspenders from traditional leather to space-age rubberband-y material...

And from a female POV, his pants weren't exactly tight like on the show...

Not that I notice those things Chrisisall

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
And from a female POV, his pants weren't exactly tight like on the show...

Not that I notice those things Chrisisall

Well, I did!

Hadn't noticed his hair though... *must watch movie again today!*

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 7:23 AM

MICJWELCH

As much as I dislike Freud (I'm not even sure I just spelled his name correctly) he did have one thing right. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. I changed my hair in middle school, and when people asked me why, well, it just seemed like a good idea at the time.

"We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 7:27 AM

KIZYR

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
In FF, Nathan parted his hair on the left-ish side, and in Serenity, it was parted mostly to the right.
What does it mean?

I know!

It's because all the events in Serenity really happened in a "mirror-'verse". Because it all happened in the mirror-'verse, none of the events which occurred there reflect what happened in the regular, real 'verse. KF

~KF

Lord, I'm walking your way. Let me in, for my feet are sore, my clothes are ragged.
Look in my eyes, Lord, and my sins will play out on them as on a screen. Read them all.
Forgive what you can and send me on my path. I will walk on until you bid me rest.
~Haven Prayer

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 7:35 AM

EMBERS

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

And I was afraid you were gonna discuss his change in suspenders from traditional leather to space-age rubberband-y material...
And from a female POV, his pants weren't exactly tight like on the show...

Not that I notice those things Chrisisall

Chrisisall, it was disappointing that they didn't make Mal's pants tighter in the movie, but Simon's pants were MUCH tighter...so I guess that helped make up for it.

Anyway I agree w/Zoid on the geo-political implications of switching from leather suspenders. It is almost as though 'evil movie Mal' had gotten a good deal through Blue Sun (!)

If and when we get the sequel (or maybe in the next set of comic books) we'll have a chance to learn more about these subtle clues that the Joss has ingeniusly hidden within 'Serenity'....

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 7:49 AM

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Originally posted by embers:
If and when we get the sequel

Just "when" Embers... it's just "when".

Sorry... had to drop in long enough to do that.

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 2:54 PM

FLORALBUNNY

Mal's Firefly hair made me want to run barefoot through it.
Mal's Serenity hair often looked as if I already had -- with dirty feet.
Blech. I'd *never* do that.

Didn't like the rubbery stuff anywhere on anyone. Even the sacred Browncoat was sullied with a patch of it.

Bring back the tightpants!

Re-light the 'Fly!

bun
-- bastards singed my turtle --
----- why's the rum gone? -----

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 3:00 PM

CITIZEN

As you say, good Mal, partial to hair of the left.
Bad Mal partial to hair on the right.

Just goes to show, it's all the fault of the hairy right.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 3:08 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:

Just goes to show, it's all the fault of the hairy right.

LMAO!!!!!

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 3:15 PM

yep, also I think I missed out on getting my browncoat. can I please have one?

I am NUT and I go from

in ten seconds flat

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 3:29 PM

How did I miss you Guy?!

Sorry about that!

*hands Guy a browncoat of his own*

Hope it fits!

I want to live on Serenity... so I totally understand your nick!

" You hold. Hold til I get back." Mal

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 4:02 PM

thanks FOLLOWMAL, *checks fit* it fits perfectly

I am NUT and I go from

in 10 seconds flat

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 4:04 PM

BELOWZERO

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:

Just goes to show, it's all the fault of the hairy right.

But he shaves his legs! See the Slither poster! LOL

I personally think it's the fault of that cowlick he has. Or he ran out of whatever industrial strength hair junk keeps him from having one hair outta place even after the most strenous of bar fights.

"Do not go gentle into that good night....
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. . ."
--Dylan Thomas

Though my soul may set in darkness
It will rise in perfect light.
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 5:13 PM

REAVERMAN

Ya know, come to think of it, I think I missed out on gettin' a browncoat myself

! Help me (no, really, its freaking cold here!)!

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:02 PM

AELIN

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Ya know, come to think of it, I think I missed out on gettin' a browncoat myself!

And me!

Don't mean to whine, but they are awfully shiny!

As far as the hair issue goes, I think Mal's comb was stolen by Wash.

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She's terse... I can be terse. Once, in college, I was laconic.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:07 PM

GIRLASKEW

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It's because all the events in Serenity really happened in a "mirror-'verse". Because it all happened in the mirror-'verse, none of the events which occurred there reflect what happened in the regular, real 'verse.

WOW! This thread has damaged my brain. How far does that extend? Is everyone stil alive? Was that a joke that I am taking too seriously? Can I stop asking questions?

Noticed the hair, did notice the pants as well. But he was shirtless in low slung sweatpants, so I forgive. Chapter 8 around 48 odd minuites into the movie.

"...once you've been on Serenity, you never leave...you just learn how to live there."

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:12 PM

WILDIGSTART

Quote:
Originally posted by Kizyr:
It's because all the events in Serenity really happened in a "mirror-'verse". Because it all happened in the mirror-'verse, none of the events which occurred there reflect what happened in the regular, real 'verse. KF

Alas, I'm afraid that's not the case. No goatees or super sexed-up women.

You see? She's not a junkie or mentally ill, she's gifted!--Momma Roxy

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:16 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
In FF, Nathan parted his hair on the left-ish side, and in Serenity, it was parted mostly to the right.
What does it mean?
Does it indicate a change in Nathan's political beliefs?
Did Joss tell him to do it?
Was it the result of a lost bet with Morena?

We must find out the answer to this!

Folicle fixated Chrisisall

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Leave us not forget Chris, Nathan is Canadian and if he was like most Western Canadians he tried to get that bloated corpse of a Liberal Government out and a fresh new Conservative party in, so as the show was made when the Liberal party was raping... I mean ruling the governing body it was left. And the movie came out when the new Conservatives came in with their minority party it's now right.... so maybe, you could be right.

Interesting thoughtisall.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:32 PM

SIXSHOOTER

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
chrisisall:
And I was afraid you were gonna discuss his change in suspenders from traditional leather to space-age rubberband-y material... Whew! I haven't put the finishing touches on my 50-page manifesto on the implications of that change, so I'm not quite ready to discuss it yet.

See now, I was wondering about those space-braces myself.
I mean I could see they would want to jazz up the costume a bit for the big budget movie, but what was with Wash?
He had on this weird pair of like hyper-lederhosen over his flight suit?

http://www.allmoviephoto.com/photo/2005_serenity_028.html

http://hausofbavaria.com/hose/lederhosen/index.htm

EDIT: Sorry, didn't mean to direct link the image.

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 6:40 PM

SILEESPACEMONKEYS

I know! What was up with the ledehosen thingy? When was THAT in Firefly, LOL?

"Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?"

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Saturday, April 1, 2006 11:50 PM

wildigstart wrote:

Quote:
Alas, I'm afraid that's not the case. No goatees or super sexed-up women.

Dude! Righteous "Star Trek" reference!

Impressed,

zoid

P.S.
Seriously. I'm adverb-less...
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Sunday, April 2, 2006 12:16 AM

sixshooter queried (and sileespacemonkeys concurred):

Quote:
...what was with Wash?
He had on this weird pair of like hyper-lederhosen over his flight suit?

Kinda makes him look like Pinnochio, dunnit?

Maybe that's his character's heretofore unsuspected mystery: He's a 'bot. If they'd pulled the harpoon from his chest, they'd've found wiring and such. In the sequel, Mal and crew will pick up a newer O-3 model (without the extenders) from Washburne Cybernetics; though Zoe will be disappointed in its performance compared to the previous model (due to the lack of aforementioned extenders). This also explains why Wash refused to let Zoe have a child: Because he couldn't give her one. (NB: Again, for the British-ly inclined, he could and frequently did 'give her one'; I'm speaking 'of children' here.)

So the lederhosen look symbolizes Wash's desire -- reminiscent of the other Pinnochio of science fiction TV fame, Data -- to be a real boy.

Not Really,

zoid

P.S.
Oh, God, I hope not.
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Sunday, April 2, 2006 5:06 AM

WILDIGSTART

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
Dude! Righteous "Star Trek" reference!

*curtsies to Zoid*

Glad I could impress ya with my Trek mind...

Commanders are red
Doctors are blue
That wasn't the case
When we lost Crewman #2

A TiPpY special for Mr. Zoid.

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 6:07 AM

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Originally posted by wildigstart:

Glad I could impress ya with my Trek mind...

Just don't start with the quantum singularities or chronoton emissions.

Dataisall

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 6:16 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

Dude! Righteous "Star Trek" reference!

Speaking of sci-fi characters and their hair changes....
"Kirk, my old friend..."
"KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!"

Chrisisall*Freaks at the light/dark straight/wavy eighties big and tall hair terrors*

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Sunday, April 2, 2006 4:51 PM

ANONYMOUS1

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
In FF, Nathan parted his hair on the left-ish side, and in Serenity, it was parted mostly to the right.

When Mal is talking to Inara at the end of Serenity, how do you think Mal's hair is parted?

You know where she says I don't know and he says good answer.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 2:29 PM

a random bump, for a random reason

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Monday, July 3, 2006 2:45 PM

PDCHARLES

What happened? He see your face?

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:

What does it mean?

Folicle fixated Chrisisall

It's like the "switch" in "Over the Top".

Happy-Action-Fun-Time Mal

or
Seriouly pissed Mal

...and he ain't Sly.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 3:58 PM

I'm fixated on milk

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Monday, July 3, 2006 7:05 PM

ANONYMOUS1

When Mal is talking to Inara at the end of Serenity, I think his hair is parted in the
middle. Just as Inara's hair is parted in
the middle.

You know where she says I don't know and he says good answer.

Inara around...Mal funnier/nicer...hair parted one way.

Inara around...Mal not nicer...hair parted another
way.

Also, the Tightpants were from the War. How many
pairs do you think Mal had? He probably finally split
the last pair he had and had to get new ones. And with Inara not around, why would he
get new pants that were tight???

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Monday, July 3, 2006 7:51 PM

TENTHCREWMEMBER

Could you please just make it stranger? Stranger. Odder. Could be weirder. More bizarre. How about uncanny?

Hey, EVERYONE knows famous spaceship Captains always have a new hairstyle for every movie.

Right, Kirk?
Right, Solo?
Right, Picar--err...right, no hair. My bad. But I'd sware the glare had a different shininess quotient each time!

Maybe they should have just rubbed soup in his hair. River woulda liked that...

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Monday, July 3, 2006 8:44 PM

I would randomly rub soup in anyone's hair, all the have to do is ask

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Monday, July 3, 2006 9:39 PM

AGATSU

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

P.S.
Seriously. I'm adverb-less...

Okay, this should go on the official FF/Serenity event calendar. July 3rd, Zoid adverb-less.

Much love, brother.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 11:52 PM

Agatsu wrote:

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

P.S.
Seriously. I'm adverb-less...

Okay, this should go on the official FF/Serenity event calendar. July 3rd, Zoid adverb-less. Much love, brother.

Please note that "Seriously" is, in fact, an adverb.

And to be accurate, the event calendar should read:
"April 2nd, zoid seriously adverb-less. Check water supply for metals and other toxins. (Follow with a three page thesis on the health benefits of purified water, drawing parallels to Shepherd Book's culinary expertise, and the emotionally cleansing effect of FFFn. Use lots of commas, semicolons and colons (i.e., 'run-on sentences') and especially ellipses (i.e., 'What the hell is he driving at?')...)".

Ideally, the entry for April 2nd would thus be so long that it would spill into at least the May calendar, and the April calendar itself would take the better part of the month to download on dial-up. After all, April is the cruelest month...

Historically,

zoid

P.S.
Love right back atcha, bro.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 11:55 PM

Agatsu wrote:

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

P.S.
Seriously. I'm adverb-less...

Okay, this should go on the official FF/Serenity event calendar. July 3rd, Zoid adverb-less. Much love, brother.

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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

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Monday, July 3, 2006 11:57 PM

Agatsu wrote:

Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:

P.S.
Seriously. I'm adverb-less...

Okay, this should go on the official FF/Serenity event calendar. July 3rd, Zoid adverb-less. Much love, brother.

Please note that "Seriously" is, in fact, an adverb.

And to be accurate, the event calendar should read:
"April 2nd, zoid seriously adverb-less. Check water supply for metals and other toxins. (Follow with a three page thesis on the physical and mental health benefits of purified water, drawing parallels to Shepherd Book's culinary expertise, and the emotionally cleansing effect of FFFn. Use lots of commas, semicolons and colons (i.e., 'run-on sentences') and especially ellipses (i.e., 'What the hell is he driving at?')...)".

Ideally, the entry for April 2nd would thus be so long that it would spill into at least the May calendar, and the April calendar itself would take the better part of the month to download on dial-up. After all, April is the cruelest month...

Historically,

zoid

P.S.
Love right back atcha, bro.

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 6:20 AM

for no real reason, a bump

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 8:43 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Quote:
Originally posted by Kizyr:
I know!

It's because all the events in Serenity really happened in a "mirror-'verse". Because it all happened in the mirror-'verse, none of the events which occurred there reflect what happened in the regular, real 'verse. KF

You mean ...Wash isn't dead after all??? Then the Shepherd an' the kid takin' a dust nap'r alright too??

(surprised rather'n blushin'!!)

Oh! It's better'n when JR's little brother, Bobby, stepped out of the shower and a whole series of Dallas had just been a really, really bad dream!!

!

(OK - she pauses here to realise that at least half of the browncoats weren't even born then...

)

Lovin' y'all! - Magda x x

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 9:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I watched the show before I found this place and I have to say that I never noticed that Mal's pants were tight, though I have heard a lot about it here or there on this site. I've never been very observant, but I think I'll attribute this to that I'm a guy who favors the women-folk. When I watched it again I had to laugh a bit. Captain tightpants indeed. Don't know how you do it for the ladies Mal. I gotta let my boys breathe and all I do at work all day is sit in front of this computer.

Never noticed the suspenders or the hair thing either.... man was that a good catch. I wouldn't have noticed either of them if I watched it 100 times. I haven't even watched Firefly through twice yet, but I reckon I'll be watching it a lot in the future. I think it's good for a change though. I for one am a big fan of wearing different clothes, sometimes even on a daily basis.

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