Male and Female Imponderables - I Wanna Hold Your Hand

Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:36 AM

PENGUIN

Here we go imponderables! A new thread! Here's the last one... http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=24148#top Imponder away! King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:39 AM

JAMESTHEDARK

Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:42 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:45 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:53 AM

JAMESTHEDARK

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:00 AM

PENGUIN

Quote: Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29: Penguin, since I don't know you well, I will say I think of Opus, my favorite penguin. He's my favorite too! King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:00 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:05 AM

JAMESTHEDARK

Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:07 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:08 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:09 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Greetings! What shall we ponder today? Besides how good looking be all are More animations available at http://desktophippie.googlepages.com

Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:42 AM

KAYNA I love my captain

On the last rhread ther was lots of talk of Paganism and such. I was wondering about that. Religiously I am nothing, not an athiest or anything, just don't really follow anything. Organized religions do usually bug me though and I have looked into Wicca and what not a little. Actually, I unwittingly converted my Baptist best friend to Wicca (much to the dismay of her parents) while looking into some material on the subject. I was liking the sound of Pagan but not Wiccan. Is that basically just following your own path? Anyway, I was just wondering if you all could point me in the direction of some good info and material and such. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost. Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:47 AM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE

Quote: Originally posted by JamesTheDark: So... Ms. G.... Any word on that pregnancy thing? Ms.G is pregnant?! When did that happen? Well congratulations Ms. G! ...even though you're not here right now....I hope everything is going well with that! ------ "...and I'll just fade away..."

Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:57 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:02 AM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE

Oooh, you're going to Norway? That's pretty exciting! I'm actually going to go to Europe pretty soon myself, so I kinda know the feeling! What're you going for? ------ "...and I'll just fade away..."

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:06 AM

PENGUIN

Quote: Originally posted by Smartbutdumbblonde: Its been a whole week, 4 page project on tidal power, 3 english essays, 3 lunchtimes a week given over to prefect duties, 2 French essays, a physics project on Venus and a brand new hairstyle since I have had a moment ot come on here. I've missed you guys so much! *Hugs all round* hmmmm... if I was really rich, I would totally chip in on Imponderable island: I like the sound of that.mmmm constant summer! though mostly I'm with you James, no stundent loans! Manchester school of medicine wouldn't know what hit them! can we have a room in the castle with a ginormous cinema screen filled with bean bags and devoted entirely to the watching of Firefly and Serenity? (and many tissue boxes, for that part in the BDM, I think we all know what I'm talking about...) I am choosing to ignore the whole ladder thingy that happened on the thread the other day, made my head hurt. Very glad I missed it. PR: go you! You totally desevre a brand new outfit, go out and shop! Heya FMF, long time no see. Giving out gigantic virtual hugs to anyone who wants one, I hate to see anyone on here in the least bit depressed. BTW, we have a new thread: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=24183 ohh, I've always wanted to do that! *************** Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics. 98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:10 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

aww, thanks penguin, My mum is taking me to Oslo for the weekend because its my 16th birthday next sunday. Where are you jetting off to then? *************** Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics. 98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:10 AM

TRAVELER

Hello Kayna: I don't belong to any formal religion my ownself. Have my private beliefs and they work for me. According to my dictionary that makes me a pagan. I once had a friend who was a Druid. You may want to look that up. I don't know where term wicca came from, since he never mentioned it. It could originate from this faith. There are have so many new religions starting up that they borrow words from each other, so the term wicca could be used by several religions. Traveler

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:13 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:13 AM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE

Smartbutdumbblonde, I'm gonna go to Germany to visit my sister! I'm soo excited!! ------ "...and I'll just fade away..."

Saturday, September 23, 2006 12:44 PM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Saturday, September 23, 2006 2:59 PM

TRISTAN

Hello, all! Thank you, Penguin, for creating a new thread...I've been a busy bee today. I'll be back on later tonight! ______________________________________

Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:36 PM

VERSEEXPLORER

Penguin, thanks for the new Imponderable thread. I think it was LittleAlbatross that mentioned what we imagine others look like. I have to admit that I picture you as Kevin Smith's Silent Bob. You add few words, and when you do write something, it is very meaningful if not profound. Of course the little penguins always make me laugh. Now I am hoping that you are taking this as a compliment because I think Kevin Smith is right under Joss as a writer/director, and I think Silent Bob is right there under Wash. _______________________________ Mal: Saffron, you're pleasing, you're all kinds of pleasing, and uhh...it's been awhile, a long damn while, since anybody but me took a hold of my plow.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:44 PM

PENGUIN

I will take it as a compliment! I am a man of few words...I let my actions speak for me! King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Saturday, September 23, 2006 4:56 PM

VERSEEXPLORER

My hero! _______________________________ Mal: Saffron, you're pleasing, you're all kinds of pleasing, and uhh...it's been awhile, a long damn while, since anybody but me took a hold of my plow.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:35 PM

PHOENIXROSE You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I have a friend who is both Wiccan and Pagan. A Wiccan, by her definition, is one who has been in a coven and gone through a "Wiccaning". Do not ask me exactly what that is because I haven't had it and I don't know. Wiccans are more structured and I suppose more devout. She is constantly doing rituals, whereas I only do them if I have great need, and they are not very elaborate. She is always writing in her Book of Shadows, and has several full ones, while I haven't even filled my first one. Not sure what all she writes in there. But she is also slightly Pagan because, other than Paganism and Wicca being very close to the same thing, she is not in the coven anymore and she is a Kitchen Witch. She cooks her spells, basically. And her cooking is magic. This is a solitary thing, but I suppose she could be a solitary Wiccan now, too. Lord and Lady, this is tricky to explain, isn't it? OK, well me, I'm a Pagan Buddhist; I follow as many teachings as I can from Buddhism and draw from them, but I also worship the earth, nature, and, as I am a fire witch, fire. Almost everyone has an element that they have some affinity with, and a witch can focus on and at times control that element. It's also usually vital to the success of his or her spells to involve that element in some way. I'm glad I'm not an earth witch, because that would mean a lot hunting around for places to do rituals outdoors. Or maybe I'm assuming that would be important. Anyway, my belief system is taylored to me, drawing from everything I've ever seen or done or read, everything that makes some kind of sense to me and everything that seems the most important. In both Buddhism and Wicca, the body is the personal temple, and is sacred. I think that's where my views on the spiritual aspect of sex must come from. Experience only confirmed what I already pretty much believed. Fun fact, the Oxford English dictionary defines a "Pagan" as anyone who is a follower of a non-Abrahamic religion. I think this should really be changed, but it's kind of fun to take my Buddhism, Druidism, Egyptian studies, Shamanism, and actual Wicca and Paganism and just put them under a single heading. But I still think the definition should be changed, because it also defines it as "A hedonist" which is entirely innaccurate. Whew! http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude! Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. - Gautama Siddharta

Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:36 PM

MAGDALENA "No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Hello my fellow imponderers... I have no idea what you all look like except that I am amazed at the concept of Penguin not being an actual penguin... does that seem right to you? LA - I will now imagine you as being exactly like Lydia - I loved that film when it came out - haven't seen it for years though! Do you do her drawl too...? Tristan - did I ever tell you that I thought you were a middle aged Englishman before I saw your photos in the costume thread - actually I revised that before then as I got to know your personality on the thread - but initially that is how I'd imagined you!! LOL!! Phoenix Rose looks exactly like I imagined her - though the photoshop image of her helped a little! So how do you'all picture me??? EDIT: Look - we did it again my sweet PR! & I did get the giggles this morning!!!

Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:50 PM

TRISTAN

Ok, back for a bit. Finally got the female Browncoat posted! Penguin's not a penguin?!? Huh! Hmm. Middle-aged Englishman...I can accept that! How do I picture you...well, that would be cheating, wouldn't it? ______________________________________

Saturday, September 23, 2006 5:53 PM

VERSEEXPLORER

Magda, Interesting, I'm thinking. It's hard to picture you outside of the little picture of Kaylee in the top corner of your posts. I think physically I picture you as a little older Kaylee. You are funny, welcoming, and a pleasure to chat with, so it's easy to get that image of our sweet Kaylee. _______________________________ Mal: Saffron, you're pleasing, you're all kinds of pleasing, and uhh...it's been awhile, a long damn while, since anybody but me took a hold of my plow.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:15 PM

MAGDALENA "No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Wow! I wish I looked like Jewell Stait... I totally identify with Kaylee - never giving up hope - loving the best in people... I did that quiz on which Big Damned Hero are you - and I was 90% Kaylee!! Yay! Thank you sweet Verse Explorer!! I imagine you as much the same - funny that - maybe not that much older - but much of a Kaylee - always warm and considerate in your contribution!! Yes Tristan - that would be cheating...

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:28 PM

WHITEFALL

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:35 PM

VERSEEXPLORER

Let me rephrase my earlier posts. Penguin is a penguin who just happens to have a few Silent Bob characteristics. Magda, You are too sweet. I believe I am a bit older than you. If you don't know what I look like, it tells me you haven't gone on the BigDamnThankYou site to vote for me. Hee-hee! If you go to Wash and the map, I'm in the US, and since it's alphabetical, I'm on top from Arizona. While you're there, you could vote for me. Mine is very low tech, but I'd appreciate a 3 star (or a 4 if you are feeling kind). While you're there don't forget to vote for Penguins, he's from the Mythical Land of Iowa. If for any reason you can't get the map to set up, you can find me on the September 10th pics. _______________________________ Mal: Saffron, you're pleasing, you're all kinds of pleasing, and uhh...it's been awhile, a long damn while, since anybody but me took a hold of my plow.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:35 PM

PHOENIXROSE You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I can't guess either, then Although no doubt you look a bit different now than you did, since you've told me a few things changed I still need to get my stuff together for bidamnthankyou; I've got this great image in my head! Just need to make it work... http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude! Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. - Gautama Siddharta

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:36 PM

WHITEFALL

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:41 PM

PHOENIXROSE You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

The reason writers should read like crazy is so they can see how the language should be put together, so they can learn how to effectively write. And you don't want anything you write to read like a textbook, do you? You should get the Visual Companion and the Official Companion and read the scripts; it's fun to see how they're laid out! http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude! Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. - Gautama Siddharta

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:43 PM

KAYNA I love my captain

Traveler, LA, and PR, thanks for responding. LA, I may just take you up on that offer and PR, thanks for all that. You people are really making me miss my Socrates Cafe. Great group of people who didn't let any idealogical beliefs get in the way of an intelligent, informed discussion. Can you imagine putting, Buddists, Wiccans, aging hippies, Methodists, Athiests, Catholics, democrats, republicans, psycologists, teachers and others all at the same table and still getting along? Wow. Anyway, does anyone have something to ponder? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Op: You're fighting a war you've already lost. Mal: Yeah, well I'm known for that.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 6:44 PM

TRISTAN

Why, yes, Magda, it would be! Whitefall, I haven't had the chance to say hello directly to you lately...so, hello! How was the Ren Faire, other than discovering hidden Browncoats? I enjoy hearing about Ren Faires because I used to be involved with them. I have to go to bed soon, but I would love to hear about it. If I don't answer you tonight, I will tomorrow! ______________________________________

Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:33 PM

MAGDALENA "No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Hey Tristan - good night! Whitefall - I'd love to hear about the 'RenFaire' too - I have heard about them but I don't believe we have anything quite like them here in Australia... Did you dress up? (other than the Jayne hat?....mmmmmm Jayne!) BTW -I would read Harry Potter actually, coz it's impossible to put down, fun and you'll be able to talk to people from 6-year-olds - grandparents about it! (My nieces gave the first book to my Mother for Mother's Day!!) VerseExplorer - I tried to get into the BigDamnedThankyou site a few days ago - but this computer is not being kind and I couldn't get far - I will, however try again now that I have a terrific reason to do so! I don't think you are older than me though - I'm 39! (I just think I'm 28!!) Hey GPR - you so should put something in - even if I have yet to work out what it's all about! You have the shiniest of pictures and I'd love to see others enjoying them too! and thanks for noticing!! Who else is about beside the truly Shiney Penguin! You are still my hero Penguin! Wish Iowa wasn't mythical... *sigh* Ah - so am I supposed to think of an imponderable...? Hmmmmmm... how is it that fashions I thought we'd seen the back of are coming back again *shudders* I saw young girls in clothes that resembled what we wore in the 80s... but I'm sure we didn't look that rediculous!! Edit: Sorry Kayna - I was just re-reading what you wrote and I was telling someone about how much I love the friends i have here - I am a Christian, involved in the Uniting Church of Australia (of a Presbyterian/Methodist background) and I love hearing aobut the empowering aspects of Wiccan, Pagan and other religions... I am surprised at the deifinition PR found coz I always thought Pagan was an Earth/Life-cycle based religion... many Christian traditions were adapted from the Pagan in order to make a soft transition when people were converted in the days of the early church! ... not sure about Republicans though (and before anyone takes that seriously - I am joking!!!) love you - Magda x x x

Saturday, September 23, 2006 7:46 PM

PHOENIXROSE You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

The 80s have been slowly creeping back into fashion. Some of it's pretty funky and cool, but the kitchy jewelry should really not be allowed! Now if only a bit of 80s would creep back into music. I'm tired of emo and indie and electric and bubblegum and a great overabundance of rap. Long live rock! I just realized something strange. I've had two major 'relationships' end in the last year, one my former best friend, and one my lover, and before they ended I kept having the same thought about both people: "You don't send me flowers anymore." This made no sense to me, as I've never gotten flowers from anyone but my dad. It kind of meant "You don't really give me a lot of your time, energy, or attention anymore" but that's not the specific thought I had, it was a cutesy thought about flowers instead. And I didn't think it meant much, really, and certainly never said it to them when I had the urge to because I knew I would get a blank look... I'm not sure where I'm going with this. Just odd what thoughts indicated, in retrospect, that there was a real problem. I'm babbling like a moonbrain. *edit* You're very right about what Paganism actually is, jie-jie, that is why the definition should be changed. And (not to offend anyone *gasp*) you would be hard-pressed to find a Christian Holiday that didn't have roots in Pagan Holidays. Even Valentine's day has a lot more to do with Beltaine than it has to do with a massacre, dontcha know. I think the definition is what it is because of the campaign to undermine Goddess and Earth worship in the long long ago. A 'Pagan' came to mean a 'heathen' which then went on to encompass everything else, even Buddhism. Anyone not Christian was a heretic and worthy of burning, torture, or hanging. Actually, let's not talk about that, ok? It just depresses me http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude! Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. - Gautama Siddharta

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:17 PM

WHITEFALL

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:21 PM

PENGUIN

For Miss PhoenixRose... King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:23 PM

MAGDALENA "No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

aawwwww... Don't be depressed Mei Mei - I think it's wonderful that we share these things - and if I were to continue this conversation I would have to say that I know what you mean about the church-history being about killing/supressing the Godess/Earth of older religions, but I also think that by us knowing those facts, we are ensuring that we are not doomed to repeat it! (makes sense?)I'd also say "Don't get me started on why the Bible is full of sexist garbage just because of the period in shich it was written and the audience for whom it was written - And you really do not want me to mention that Jesus had several female disciples who barely get a mention - and that I am all for the empowerment of the 'Godess' because I truly feel Mary Magdalene has a much greater role in Christianity than (not to offend anyone *gasp*) Jesus mother Mary!! ...and I hope I'm still alive when someone finds a complete copy of Mary Magdalene's gospel and it is published and studied 'coz that is gonna rock the world!!! But since you asked - *hugs GPR* - I will not mention any of that... I love my Mei Mei too much - and I vehemently agree with you too! Is it just me or did anyone else get out their copy of Duran Duran after all this talk of the '80s? ...no? ...it's just me then... Edit: Whitefall! -Thanks so much for that awesome description - Tristan has mentioned things but it's nice to have your overall description so soon after the event! It sounds like something I would love!! I am so into Medieval things - and adore Shakespeare... have done a fair bit of his work in my time too... I'm a trained actor as well so I would be in my element! I love your description of the mood too... also sounds like me!! (see above for more details!!) Penguin...? You give PR flowers, but not me?

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:38 PM

PHOENIXROSE You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

Quote: Originally posted by Penguin: For Miss PhoenixRose... Thank you, Penguin! Yeah, we've talked about Mary's role as the Goddess to Jesus's God, right? I'm sure we have. See how much got edited out, though? That's a huge problem I have with the bible. Stupid council of nicea. Stupid sexist people. Stupid mistranslations. I like the Gnostic Christianity. I feel like it's taken all the teachings, and maybe even the intended meaning, rather than all the dogma. See, I don't mind talking about that kind of thing, I just don't like to think of how many people died or lived miserably. Comparitively, we live in such enlightened times as to blow my mind! I love being able to have a discussion like this, without any mud-slinging. What a nice and refreshing change! I knew it could be done! (and has been before, just seems like a long while.) Finding a Christain who agrees with me so much, well, that's just proof that the truth crosses all lines whenever it gets a doorway. Gives me all kinds of hope. You're the bestest jie-jie! And no Duran Duran, as I'm more a Bon Jovi girl Wish I had a player here! Hope the radio will play some good hair metal. Whitefall, you didn't mention all the acts! I love watching the acts and performers at RenFaires. Been so long since I went to one, though. http://www.bigdamnthankyou.com - show Universal your gratitude! Peace comes from within. Do not seek it without. - Gautama Siddharta

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:40 PM

PENGUIN

For my dear Magdalena... King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

Saturday, September 23, 2006 8:44 PM

VERSEEXPLORER

Magdalena, So sorry to hear that you can't get on the BigDamnThankYou site. I know you would love it. I did know that you are 39, and that is why I said I was a bit older than you. I don't think I look my age, I definitely don't feel my age, and I must admit I never act my age. It is hard to tell a person's age when all you see is the typed words. _______________________________ Mal: Saffron, you're pleasing, you're all kinds of pleasing, and uhh...it's been awhile, a long damn while, since anybody but me took a hold of my plow.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:05 PM

VERSEEXPLORER

Aaaaah, Penguin, no kiss for me? Is it my connection to YoSaffBridge that makes you hesitate? Ooops, a bit too bold. I do believe Saffron was channeling through me. _______________________________ Mal: Saffron, you're pleasing, you're all kinds of pleasing, and uhh...it's been awhile, a long damn while, since anybody but me took a hold of my plow.

Saturday, September 23, 2006 10:53 PM

SASSALICIOUS

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:16 PM

EMMARIGBY

Oh Sass, don't beat yourself up! I truley know how depressing it is to want to feel attracted to a lovely guy who is into me but to just not feel that spark. At least you're sensible enough to be honest with him and yourself. I've been down a baaaad road before. Much pain was caused and I felt really guilty. ___________________ Hissssssssss!

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:19 PM

SASSALICIOUS

Saturday, September 23, 2006 11:23 PM

EMMARIGBY

*puts big soft gloves on Sass so that she doesn't hurt herself by her misguided hobby!* ___________________ Hissssssssss!