GENERAL DISCUSSIONS

Male and Female Imponderables-Let's do it

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 6:25 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Any interest in an old 28?


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:02 AM

RUGBUG


Ah, NV, you exhibit the other issue...distance. ;)

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:07 AM

SMARTBUTDUMBBLONDE


Good Evening!
thank you Magda, I'm feeling much better now, though I'm not going to the art workshop :(

What is this Haven thing, I'm feeling kinda left out.

I'm on my fifth year of French, doing it for GCSE. Thankfully, I've finished my coursework (but I'm not allowed have any help at all for that anyway)now, but I really appreciate the offer tristan, I'll PM you if I ever need your assistance - if that's alright with you.


Just received my Official Companion, I was almost blinded by the shinyness!, only thing is, what do I watch/read first, the companion, or done the impossible?





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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:22 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Distance smishtance. Okay, so it could be an issue.
That and my non-commital attitude toward anything.
I'm such a wuss.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:42 AM

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I have PMed you with the Haven info, SBDB!

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:44 AM

VERSEEXPLORER


Morning All,

Quote:

the girl is 88 (but is still very much a girl!) and the guy is 78. The girl calls him her "toyboy!"


Aaaaah, I think that's so cute.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:25 AM

ZEEK


I agree with PR on the age thing. It's an issue. You can choose to ignore it if you want, but it's there. People change throughout their lives and the younger you are the more change is happening more rapidly. It's hard to think that the older person in the relationship would always like what the younger turns into and that the younger is still looking for a person like the older one all the time too. Which is why it seems much more acceptable for older couples to have more of an age gap.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:27 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Yeesh. Must be a busy day.

BUMP!


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:58 AM

MSG


aaah back at last. I thought that training would never end and I may have made the trainers a bit nuts, but I was profoundly bored since I have already had the training in my old district( in fact the trainer recognized me and wanted to know why in the world I was taking it twice)

ANYWAY- age thing...I think the older you get the less the age gap matters...20 married to a 35 year old is emotionally and experientially incompatible, but a 70 year old married to an 85 year old doesn't seem to be a problem. I really think it isn't chronological age or even maturity level, but whther you are at the same place in your lives ( ie ready to settle down or what have you)I think after a certain age you get to the point where you've pretty much established your sense of self and your values and, most importantly, your general life path. Before then I think it's not the best idea to get married because who you are can change so much and you can't be sure you will change in a way that will keep you compatible with your mate....However, I think if you are both really committed to staying together no matter what and you're really tolerant of each other and respectful of need and compromise well....none of that applies:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2



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Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:08 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


MSG's back and I gotta leave for lunch. Dang! I'll be back in an hour or so with some definate pondering.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:45 AM

MSG


oooh definite pondering??? that sounds very deep:)

to go with that



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Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:52 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain


Hmmm. This age conversation has me all turned about on how to respond. See my parents had a 12 year age difference and made a go of it. They had wonderful, passionate, caring, adventurous relationship (by all accounts as I was not present for the first couple of years) for about 15 years. than the fit hit the shan. Things went down hill fast and after about 3 years of emotional problems on my dads part (depression and such) and heavy drinking and partying on my moms part they called it quites. Now my mom has bought a motorcycle and dates men her own age and my dad dates no one and distrusts women.

From that perspective, it wasn't such a good thing. there was a lot of hurt and anger on both sides but still, there were those 15 years of happiness. So I'm not sure I can say it wouldn't work. Marriges involving people of about the same age have gone through a similar dissolution before so I can't completely believe it was the age thing. I just don't know.

As to the coments about daddy/mommy compexeses. Yeah. I know a guy who dated and lived with an older woman for a number of years (and they didn't break up, she died in an accident). And she looked older and was fat. I hate saying that because I'm not what you'd call slender but she looked unhealthy, and I mostly mentioned it because before and after her he has gone for young, attractive, slim types. She didn't seem much like his type.
She was actully the mother of one of his friends who was several years older than him. The friend didn't care fo the situation. She did, however, kind of mommy him. It was wierd seeing him together. One minute they're doing a mother son thing and the next, they're making out.

So I do understand that part. And from the couples I've known I guess I've seen things that will lend themselves to PR's opinion. And PR, I really do respect your opinion, I just can't bring myself to agree with it despite the relationships I've seen.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:55 AM

MINK


I love older women (and younger ones, and ones the same age as me). I done went and married one. She's 9 ...

... months older than I.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:55 AM

MINK


I love older women (and younger ones, and ones the same age as me). I done went and married one. She's 9 ...

... months older than I.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:57 AM

TRISTAN


"Older women
Make beautiful lovers"



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Thursday, October 5, 2006 10:04 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Hey Mink! Where are those pretty eyes you had for your signature? I liked them!

Okay, having the words "it's okay to leave them to die" just above them was a little morbid and creepifying, but still - they were cute!




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Thursday, October 5, 2006 10:18 AM

MSG


ah the whispering of students...the music of evil plotting:)

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 10:20 AM

WHITEFALL


The pitter patter of tiny feet in huge combat boots?



"But, these strong women characters?"

"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 10:29 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Quote:

Originally posted by msg:
ah the whispering of students...the music of evil plotting:)



That's the worst part about teaching English as a foreign language. I don't speak the kids' native languages, so I can't tell what they're whispering about! I can usually guess though...




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Thursday, October 5, 2006 11:09 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I have returned.

So I was thinkin' last night of loves past and began pondering how I could have fallen so in love. "The" ex was someone I'd known on and off since she was born (one year younger). So, aside from disagreeing on where to live after gettin' married, we never fought. She aspired to do more than me (wanted to be in the military). Maybe in more than one way I felt she was ment to do more without me. Not that I've done nothing with my life. Reflecting on my work it seems nice to have the chance to slack with little questioning from anyone. And (chuckles) I've achieved third in command at a place I never dreamed of working at. I just wonder what might have been. Is this more prevelant in men or women? I hear more men asking this question than women.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 11:36 AM

MSG


Hmm- I'd say working with kids and helping them be successful and teaching women to protect and defend themselves ranks right near the top of my " doing something with you life" list. As for the reflecting on what could have been,that gene appears to have been left out of my genetic make-up. I'm more of the what's done is done, now keep moving forward sort, but hey reflect away it's really deep and philosophical and all:) Adds to your air of quiet mystery.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 11:58 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


I got the keep moving forward thing too. Just occasionallt that one thing seems to snag and rip a hole in my sock. Not really life altering at the time, but noticeable and a little annoying.

I have an air of quiet mystery about me. Intruging. I don't seem to notice such things. It is a little wierd but also a bit refreshing to be mysterious.
Thanks. I guess.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:07 PM

RMMC


Howdy, folks. I'm here to have my 2 cents worth about the mommy/daddy issues.

I'm with PR. The idea of being intimate with a man old enough to be my father is creepy. Sleeping with a man old enough to be my grandfather is well beyond creepy. *shudder*

I've also seen a few folks looking for mommy/caretaker daddy/authority in their relationships, and those folks have serious issues. i'm trying not to think about the older side of that which seems to be have almost a pedophilial context to it. ICK! *scrubs brain out with steel wool*

So thems my 2 cents.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:13 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


"OHHHH! Right in the mommy daddy parts!"-Fat Bastard

Had to. Fit the moment.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:21 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


Soooo late here! Going to bed now...




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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:25 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Good night DTH. Sleep sounds sooooo good right now.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:29 PM

MSG


NV- you're very mysterious. It's probably one of the reasons why women gravitate toward you... well apart from the obvious handsome, kind, funny, and smart thing...

Ok so love that the plumber came and fixed our blocked drain and then "noticed" a leak which I know wasn't there before he fixed the blockage. Called MisterG and he agreed there was no leak and so he's called the company and the guy is on his way back to fix it...It might be sexist, but guys just get a lot more attention on a complaint involving hardware or tools.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:36 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Unless the guys at the company know there is a hottie at the call. I listened to the scanner one time while driving in Reno. Pretty funny some of the guys you hear going to calls over the CB.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:39 PM

MSG


hmm I should wear a shorter skirt and tighter top when greeting repair men then:)

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 12:51 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


(Envisions such a sight while delivering a pizza, repairing something, passing the word)

That's bad. Very, very bad. I'd really feel sorry for the Elders. Silly Mormons.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 1:45 PM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Where have all the Ponderers gone? The world may never know. I'll be out soon so if I miss anyone I'll catch y'all later.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 2:40 PM

MSG


Never use Rescue Rooter ( plumbing people) They insist that there's no way the sink leaking was cause by them despite the fact that both of us and our cleaning lady all say there was no leak until today after repairs so poor MisterG is in there fixing it:(
LOL NV can I be charged with repair man tempting??

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 3:35 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Ha! Gorramn it! I missed NVG!! Sorry Sweetheart!

I used to work for a cable TV company and one of my best friends was married to one of the tech's team leaders - we all lived in the same area so I'd go and have a drink at the pub with them on a Friday evening (when I wasn't on the late shift!) John told me this story about a lady who had all sorts of problems with her cable TV & they couldn't do the usual trouble shooting over the phone so they had to make a call out...

Well she sounded so sexy on the phone that one of the guys she spoke to commented and she laughed and said she worked as a phone-sex girl! Well you can imagine what happened - it suddenly went from not wanting to send one tech to sending out 3!! 1 team-leader & 2 regular techs - for 'customer relations' reasons you know!

When they got there the woman called out to come in and they found her sitting on the couch and occupying most of it! She was so huge she couldn't get up to show them where the connections were, and when the phone rang she was all deep and sexy and they all had the creeps... Serves them right I say!

Still ... tis sad really...

Edit: Ah... MsG? are they really called 'Rescue Rooter'??... Wouldn't that have connitations over there like it would over here? I wouldn't have thought MisterG would let a gorgeous one like you call in a 'rescue rooter'...??? Maybe it's an Australian thing...???


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 3:42 PM

PENGUIN


Good evening, Magdalena!

It's getting late here...and this penguin is BUSHED! They're making me think too much at work...Hurts my wittle brain!


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 6:34 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


awwww... poor little Penguin! Will I go and deal with the mean old work peoples... Nasty, mean aweful work thingies - leave my poor Penguin alone...

There she'll scare them!


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 6:53 PM

NICODEMUS


Time to put in my anecdote. Two friends of mine who are happily married first met when he was teaching a class in uni, and she was one of his students. Incidentally, he was dating one of his other students at the time, but that broke off after he failed her for the semester.

Anyway, there's a 10-12 year age difference between them, but they get on fine. No mothering/domineering/leeching by either of them, so if it works, it works.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:07 PM

VERSEEXPLORER


Magdalena,
That Mona Lisa scares me. Hopefully Penguin can use it tomorrow to keep those work task masters away.


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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:22 PM

MINK


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Hey Mink! Where are those pretty eyes you had for your signature? I liked them!

Okay, having the words "it's okay to leave them to die" just above them was a little morbid and creepifying, but still - they were cute!




Yes, the "die" thing didn't mesh well. But my basic problem with the eyes is they're my daughter's and it seemed like a good idea at first but it's just too personal, having her on display like that in every post so I'm not doing it anymore.

Plus the eyes without a face (oh god... eighties attack coming on...), again sounded good at first but now strikes me as weird. When it's such a familiar face...

Glad you liked them tho -- I hope to see that little beauty in "Firefly: Generations" in 15-20 years.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 7:22 PM

MINK


Quote:

Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Hey Mink! Where are those pretty eyes you had for your signature? I liked them!

Okay, having the words "it's okay to leave them to die" just above them was a little morbid and creepifying, but still - they were cute!




Yes, the "die" thing didn't mesh well. But my basic problem with the eyes is they're my daughter's and it seemed like a good idea at first but it's just too personal, having her on display like that in every post so I'm not doing it anymore.

Plus the eyes without a face (oh god... eighties attack coming on...), again sounded good at first but now strikes me as weird. When it's such a familiar face...

Glad you liked them tho -- I hope to see that little beauty in "Firefly: Generations" in 15-20 years.

It's okay to leave them to die.

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 8:54 PM

KAYNA

I love my captain


Magda, that Mona Lisa pic is making me think of Ghostbusters II. You know "Viggo!" God, I gan just hear Peter McNicol saying it. And Viggo was kind of a scary guy so it should work to scare off the work people. I just hope she doesn't start talking and mesmerising folk and trying to emerge from the picture...

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 9:23 PM

PHOENIXROSE

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Morning all!
I'm very impressed by whoever made the Mona Lisa frown. That's skillz right there!
I forget if we were pondering anything. I'm in several places at once. I let my mail go! I am bad...
*scurries off to reply to more people*

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Thursday, October 5, 2006 10:47 PM

DESKTOPHIPPIE


I loooooove Ghostbusters II!!! I know, it's silly as heck but it's so much fun!

Oooh! Remember the bit where they play Jackie Wilson songs and make the statue of liberty walk to the museam?

*sings* Your love is lifting me higher...




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Friday, October 6, 2006 12:32 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Quote:

Originally posted by Kayna:
Magda, that Mona Lisa pic is making me think of Ghostbusters II. You know "Viggo!" God, I gan just hear Peter McNicol saying it. And Viggo was kind of a scary guy so it should work to scare off the work people. I just hope she doesn't start talking and mesmerising folk and trying to emerge from the picture...



LOL!! I know exactly what you mean! I love that movie too - another of my guilty pleasures I guess... we're all in good company then!

...maybe we should just have a "I am a fan of this movie" thread and we could just keep admitting one movie after another...


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Friday, October 6, 2006 3:39 AM

TRISTAN


Morning, Imponderable-ers! Hey, guess what? It's Friday!!


Sorry I haven't been around a lot...work's been busy and I don't really have much to add to the conversations lately. Know that I am lurking and reading, though!

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Friday, October 6, 2006 3:52 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"


Good morning Tristan! You've been lurking eh? That's not good enough! We miss you here... you do know that righ?

Enjoy your Friday - mine was pretty good & now it's night cap time so I'm chilling at the computer with a Baileys... coz I am so jealous when you are all getting up and drinking coffee! (If I drink coffee this late at night I don't really sleep all that well...)

We'll ponder some more soon! - Magda x x x


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Friday, October 6, 2006 4:02 AM

TRISTAN


I like keeping an eye on my friends, even if I can't join in!
See, I would rather be drinking Bailey's right now...it would make the day that much more interesting!

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Friday, October 6, 2006 4:12 AM

MSG


Oh yeah Tristan I can see the headline now " Drunken Insurance Adjuster dances for gathering crowds" HUGS but I'm sure you'd be so damn cute your boss would have to forgive you.

Morning( well evening) my darling and beloved Magda. Hope you sleep well and have a ball this weekend...yes rooter here just means guy who fixes plumbing, but hey it'd be a very popular service in Australia...LOL I can see it now " weekend coming with no boyfriend in sight and nothing to do, well ladies call Rescue Rooter and we'll take care of you right away. Friendly technicians standing by to render their services"

May I just say mmmmmmmmmm vanilla latte:)

Ok now some pondering. Have you ever felt an inexplicable tug of attraction to someone you didn't really find all that attractive??

For me, that person is Tim Curry. Let's face it, great actor or not, Tim is funny looking ( not talking during Rocky Horror) and for some unexplainable reason, I find Tim's voice so attractive that it practically makes me pant ( which is really weird because visually he's the antithesis of any quality I find physically attractive)

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Friday, October 6, 2006 4:24 AM

TRISTAN


MSG...I'm not much of a dancer, but I did once perform Frankenfurter (ironic, considering you mentioned Tim Curry...) in college...so I am used to the slinky clothes.
And yes...Vanilla Latte....mmmm...

Inexplicable tug of attraction...I'll keep this with the celebrities like you have. Mine is Juliette Lewis. She is not seen as a beauty, and does choose some weird roles, but there is something fairy-like and ethereal about her. It's not a major thing, but it does raise eyebrows when I mention it.

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Friday, October 6, 2006 4:42 AM

MAL4PREZ


I had that tug of attraction once.. got me together with a guy I shouldn't have got together with! I don't understand why it happened, we were friends with no nothing for a year, then BAM!

BTW, here's a really guilty pleasure: I saw a teaser for the new Jackass movie last night. I never saw the first movie, but I used to watch the TV show. It's stupid and largely offensive, but some of that KILLS me! Riding snowboards down the streets of San Fran, in full snowboarder outfits. So funny!

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Friday, October 6, 2006 5:21 AM

RUGBUG


Mal4Prez,

I LOVE Jackass. It's soooooo incredibly stupid and yet somehow absolutely hilarious. Johnny Knoxville (yum...although he often looks like he could use a good scrubbing) with both arms in immobilization casts asking strangers to unzip his pants? Funny. Leaving a baby in the carrier thingy on the roof of the car and then driving off? Even funnier. It sooo shouldn't be funny, and yet...it is.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Friday, October 6, 2006 5:36 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Heee's baaaack!

Wierd morning.

DTH, Jackie Wilson is great. Ranks with Bill Withers, Al Green, and Otis Redding for setting the "mood".


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Friday, October 6, 2006 5:41 AM

ZEEK


Can't say I've ever had some weird attraction tug. I don't really understand the question either. What do you mean being attracted to someone you aren't attracted to? That sounds impossible to me. Do you just mean being attracted to someone who isn't your regular type or something? Cause that's how I answered.

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