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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:38 AM

PHOENIXROSE

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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:38 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Triple post goodness!

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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:47 AM

MRT



Congrats PR - for your willingness to load this ridiculously long thread on your hand-crank dial up connection you deserve the extra large Mudders Milk and chocolate ice planet!!

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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:26 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by MrT:

Congrats PR - for your willingness to load this ridiculously long thread on your hand-crank dial up connection you deserve the extra large Mudders Milk and chocolate ice planet!!



I second that. Anyone willing to wait 40 minutes to read a thread is definitely devoted (or just obsessed, but those two sometimes have only a fine line of distinction).

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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:47 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Heh, also the fact that I triple posted. I only meant to double post, I swear!
*goes back to edit middle post so it's a pretty picture involving sharp things

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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:21 AM

MRT



sharp and pointy things.... let's be 'aving ya you yellow livered

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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:25 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


*attempts to eat her ice planet*


...


My food is problematic.


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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 1:52 PM

RMMC


Quote:

MrT wrote:
Congrats PR - for your willingness to load this ridiculously long thread on your hand-crank dial up connection you deserve the extra large Mudders Milk and chocolate ice planet!!



*pouts*

I'm on dial-up, too.

Congrats, PR! (It took me 2 hours to find out who got it!)

Let me offer you a chocolate drink of your choice! Yea!!!


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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:29 PM

PENGUIN






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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:50 PM

TRAVELER


Hello Savewash:

Sorry I missed us going past the 1000 mark.
Foster is northwest of Omaha. You pass Fremont and Norfolk. Norfolk is where my mother grew up. A much bigger town.

Did I ever tell about the time I was in Wyoming and I saw this town on the road map where I thought I would get gas. When I got there the only thing still standing was the gas station and it had been closed for years. But there it was, on the map. Nobody bothered to tell the rest of the state they were closed.

So there plenty of smaller towns than Foster, but it is special to me because my family has three generations who lived there. I get kind of sentimental about it. Yinyang would say silly.
Loved using the outhouse when ever we visited my grandparents. What a hoot. Cornhuskers rule. Go Nebraska.

And you can't hijack a thread that begins by asking who will be last. You are part of what got this thread this far. So many wonderful people.

Love you all. Happy to see the 1000 mark. That is shiny.


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Tuesday, October 17, 2006 4:13 PM

PENGUIN






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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 12:55 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


I really like the smiley icons Penguin, did you make them yourself ??

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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:11 AM

PENGUIN


That one was found. Most of the one's I use are "borrowed" from other sites...I usally have to fix them or put Opus into them!



King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:22 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Well, I saved them as well, to add to my own collection. Hope you don't mind.

~Jimi
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Self-Proclaimed Grand Vizier of Georgia


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"Marijuana not only should be legal, it should be manditory." - Bill Hicks

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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:48 AM

RMMC


Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
"Marijuana not only should be legal, it should be manditory." - Bill Hicks



Hey RIMG, been meaning to ask...who is Mr Hicks and why does he want me to die horribly? Dying from a major asthma attack while having a massive migrane is not my first choice for ways to go.

In bed with Nathan would be my first choice.

Sorry, but I just had to ask.


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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 1:49 PM

PENGUIN


Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
Well, I saved them as well, to add to my own collection. Hope you don't mind.

~Jimi
jimi dot spettel at gmail dot com
Self-Proclaimed Grand Vizier of Georgia



Not in the least!



King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:27 PM

COZEN


Firefly, the television series. Serenity, the movie. The community (of "Browncoats") that shares a commonality of respect inspired by the viewing of the television series and the movie. This very website, ostensibly dedicated to furthering such sentiments.

I sincerely hope we don't forget our purpose for being here.

Peace. I luvs ya all. Sometimes we fight, other times we just play. It's all good. I'm as guilty as anyone of wasting bandwidth here for no purpose. Still, it is my fervent hope that we remember why we're posting here at all.

There's something about the show that simply resonates with everything that I hold true, with everything that I believe holds value. This is why I selfishly hope for more.


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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:42 PM

RMMC


Haven't forgotten. Just having a bit of fun. Nothing wrong with getting carried away a little.





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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:11 PM

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Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:23 PM

SAVEWASH

Now I am learning about scary.


Thanks, Traveler. I found Foster on my map! I'm glad you have fond memories of it.

Every time I go back to Lincoln, I'm amazed at how much it's grown. Not all of that is good, but I guess you can't stop progress.

Speaking of progress, look at this thread go!




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Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:08 AM

PENGUIN


In college I had a girlfriend from Waverly, which is just outside of Lincoln. Worked in Lincoln one summer too!



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Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:00 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by RMMC:
Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
"Marijuana not only should be legal, it should be manditory." - Bill Hicks



Hey RIMG, been meaning to ask...who is Mr Hicks and why does he want me to die horribly? Dying from a major asthma attack while having a massive migrane is not my first choice for ways to go.

In bed with Nathan would be my first choice.

Sorry, but I just had to ask.



No need to apologize doll, discussion is what these forums are all about.

Bill Hicks was a comedian who was popular in the States in the late 80s and early 90s (he died in 1994). He was very policital, and against stupidity in general. I could go on and on about some of his routines, but I won't.

Marijuana is better for you than alcohol or cigarettes, yet it is illegal. Zero people every year die from smoking it, and it serves to calm the mood as well as ease pain and other medical benefits. For comparison, cigarettes kill approximately 330,000 and alcohol approximately 80,000 per year in the US alone, and neither has even the remote possibility of being useful for anything.

Just think, if everyone smoked, we would all be a bunch of mellow hungry folks. Who cares if you are in traffic for five minutes longer than you want to be? Who cares about the petty little things that cause huge strife in everyday life? Looking at the big picture is more important, and I personally think that if everyone were required to smoke then life would be simpler. I wouldn't mind my biggest worry being whether to order a large pepperoni or some General Tso chicken.

To address your concerns, smoking of any kind is going to be bad for folks with asthma, but there are other ways of ingesting the chemical without the carcinogens. For example, the boiling point of THC is lower than the flash point for cannabis, so you can vaporize the oils out of the plant without having to burn the leaves/stems/flowers. Also, there are painkillers (such as Maridol) that are made from the chemical that can actually be prescribed. As for the migraines, I do not understand, and would love to hear more from you about it.

Other issues with smoking it: Yes, it does make people somewhat lazy, especially if you are inclined to be that way anyhow. It coats brain cells, which can affect memory and increase reaction time, so doing it while performing dangerous jobs where you need to be alert isn't a good idea.

Sorry for the whinging, but I do feel very strongly on the issue, and now you sort of know why. For more information on Bill Hicks and marijuana I have included some links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hicks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marijuana

~Jimi
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Thursday, October 19, 2006 10:53 AM

RMMC


Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:

Marijuana is better for you than alcohol or cigarettes, yet it is illegal. Zero people every year die from smoking it, and it serves to calm the mood as well as ease pain and other medical benefits. For comparison, cigarettes kill approximately 330,000 and alcohol approximately 80,000 per year in the US alone, and neither has even the remote possibility of being useful for anything.



Actually for me, alcohol is the one least likely to kill me. And as I usually don't indulge (I tend to be the DD) it's not likely to, so. Actually the indulge time is during PMS. A glass of something makes me a normal person rather than a bitch from hell who will bit the heads off of whippets. The unfortunate part is that I can't do this before work. For some strange reason the hospital doesn't want us coming in with alcohol on our breath.

Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
Just think, if everyone smoked, we would all be a bunch of mellow hungry folks. Who cares if you are in traffic for five minutes longer than you want to be?



I care about being on the road with someone who is impaired in their judgement and reflexes. My brother was almost killed in an auto accident by someone who was high on pot. The guy was too stoned to realise that the light wasn't in his favor and slammed into my brother's car in an intersection.

Using it, and using it responsibly is a big difference. Please don't think I object to just driving under the influence of drugs. I want much stiffer drunk driving penalties, too. Loss of your driving license should happen the first time. Can't get to work? Too bad. Jail time for any injures or accidents caused. Fatal injuries should be tried as murder, not manslaughter.

Impairment is impairment. No one who is impared be it by drugs or alcohol (or a lack of sleep) should be allowed to operate a motorized vehicle. It's an instant recipie for accidents.

Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
To address your concerns, smoking of any kind is going to be bad for folks with asthma, but there are other ways of ingesting the chemical without the carcinogens. For example, the boiling point of THC is lower than the flash point for cannabis, so you can vaporize the oils out of the plant without having to burn the leaves/stems/flowers. Also, there are painkillers (such as Maridol) that are made from the chemical that can actually be prescribed. As for the migraines, I do not understand, and would love to hear more from you about it.



It is most likely part of an allergic reaction, but the migrane portion was always an issue even before the asthma had gotten as bad as it is for me today and the actual pain from it is worse than my PMS migranes. The asthma is most likely the result of my mother being a heavy smoker when she was pregnant with me. (My brother doesn't have asthma, but is prone to bronchitis and pneumonia for the same reason.) I know a few other asthmatics who also get migranes from pot smoke, so this may be linked in some way.

For every object that can gain entry to your body or touch it, there is a percentage of the human population that is going to have either a sensitivity to it or an out-and-out allergic reaction. My point is that saying that 'everyone should be required to have this' is just as bad as saying 'no one should have this ever.' Perhaps a sentiment of 'anyone who wishes to indulge should be free to do so provided they're not infringing on someone else's right not to,' may be more in order? OMG! I'm being politically correct! AAAIIIEEE!!!!

I respect the idea that this should be available to folks for medicinal purposes, and if you want to recreate, fine, just please keep it away from me which is the same thing I request of folks who smoke cigarettes. (Weirdly enough, cigars don't affect me. Dunno why.)

My personal feeling about smoking at all is, that ALL smoking should be banned in public buildings as well as a minimum of 50 feet from any public building entrance. All apartment complexes should have buildings that are designated as being 'smoke free' at all times. If the apartment is just one big building, then the lower half should be smoke free with stiff penalties and/or eviction for anyone who smokes in the hallways or laundry facilities. I had a neighbor who had weekly pot parties, which had he not aired his apartment out into the hallway afterword, I wouldn't have given a rat's ass about, but since he did and caused the smoke to migrate to every other apartment in the building, which in turn caused me to become violently ill just sitting in my own livingroom, I've gotten a bit more irritable on the subject.

Sorry if this all came out harsh. I'm just a bit tired of folks thinking that this little bit of "fill-in-the-blank" can't possibly affect my asthma or allergies. They can and do. I don't go to church any longer as I can't be near most perfume either.

Quote:

Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
Sorry for the whinging, but I do feel very strongly on the issue, and now you sort of know why. For more information on Bill Hicks and marijuana I have included some links



No problem. I just whinged back. Maybe we can have this renamed the 'Lastie and Whinging' thread!

No?

I'm also getting the thought that we should have taken this over to the imponderables.

But...Thanks for taking the time to answer the info and all and not taking offense (I hope). :smile


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Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:17 PM

TRAVELER


Yea Savewash, cities change. I live just north of downtown Milwaukee and they are building highrise condos everywhere. I can't imagine who they get to pay the outlandish prices they are asking for them. They no more than finish one 30 story building and they start another one. The city is even clearing land for more. But the more people you have and the higher cost of the condos means more taxes for the city. So I can't blame them. It is just so congested already. We have three major collages near downtown and the housing is mostly large apartments or condos.

I know what you mean about this thread. It took me two tries to get in. Then it take a good three minutes for it to open. That is why I'm not posting as many pictures as I used to. It takes to long.

I never lived in Lincoln, but when I was only 4 years old I lived in Omaha.

The last 40 years have been in Milwaukee. I can hardly believe I have lived here this long. But I am a draftsman and Milwaukee has plenty of industry to keep me busy so I stay.

Take care compadre.


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Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:05 PM

SAVEWASH

Now I am learning about scary.


Forty years?

I sure hope you like Milwaukee. When we first moved here for the spouse's job, I kidded myself that it was only temporary ... but now I'm starting to think I might be here that long or longer. There are good and bad things about that. I just need to concentrate on the good ones. (At least we don't have highrise condos here yet.)

I don't know how anybody has the patience to get into this thread anymore, but I guess I'm one of them! How do we do it? It IS fun, though.



"We need to keep our heads so we can ... keep our heads."

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Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:27 PM

TRAVELER


I know. If anyone would have said I would stay here that long I would have laughed at them. Just bringing it up gives away my age. But you get acustomed to the cold winters and the insane collage students staggering down your street trying to find their way home after a night out. I think they stay in groups figuring someone will remember the way. But do they have to sing at 3am in the morning and walk down the middle of the road. Well it keeps your driving skills honed.

If it takes me three or four minutes to get into this thread; how long does it take somebody who has dial-up?


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Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:43 PM

RMMC


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:

If it takes me three or four minutes to get into this thread; how long does it take somebody who has dial-up?
Traveler



It's recently changed for me. It was taking over an hour and two tries. Yesterday, I doubled the memory in my computer. It's now taking about 5-7 minutes.

D'oh!

I've been to Milwaulkee before. It's a very nice city. I love all the gargoyles and gothic structures.


RMMC
"Those grenades?"
"Captain don't want 'em."
"Jayne, we're robbing the place, we're not occupying it."

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Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:50 PM

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Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:16 PM

TRAVELER


That is damn dedicated RMMC.

Glad to hear you upgraded your computer. It must nice. Mine is about Two years old and I think it is better than the one at Work. But our computer administration has banned private use of our computers because of spam. Hogwash! But big brother is watching and you better not.

I used to visit during lunch, but no more.

Penguin. Tell the bunny to stop. I was born to do stupid things. Just ask the ski patrol or the any of my friends. You can spot my friends by the signs they carry whenever I'm around.


I aim to be stupid
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Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:08 PM

RMMC


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
That is damn dedicated RMMC.



I was thinking perverse, but I like your summation better.

Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Glad to hear you upgraded your computer. It must nice. Mine is about Two years old and I think it is better than the one at Work. But our computer administration has banned private use of our computers because of spam. Hogwash! But big brother is watching and you better not.



My 'puter is more like 5 years old, so it was due for a but of space, especially as i just got a capture card and wanted to be able to install the software that came with it.

I can't at work either for the same reason you can't: the internet police are everywhere and they talk to the phone police.


Quote:

Originally posted by traveler:
Penguin. Tell the bunny to stop. I was born to do stupid things.



Ditto. I don't want to turn the bunny into a helpless vegatable.

♪Talk with your mouth full
Bite the hand that feeds you
Bite on more than you chew
What can you do
Dare to be stupid

Take some wooden nickles
Look for Mr. Goodbar
Get your mojo working now
I'll show you how
You can dare to be stupid

You can turn the other cheek
You can just give up the ship
You can eat a bunch of sushi and forget to leave a tip

Dare to be stupid
Come on and dare to be stupid
It's so easy to do
Dare to be stupid
We're all waiting for you
Let's go♪


Gotta love Weird Al.


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Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:10 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I can officially no longer load this thread on dial-up. I can only get on from work. Woe is my world.

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A good friend who points out mistakes and imperfections and rebukes evil is to be respected as if he reveals a secret of hidden treasure. - Gautama Siddharta

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Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:23 PM

RMMC





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Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:32 PM

TRAVELER


Good night everybody.
Must go to bed. But this has been nice. No one disturbs us down here.


Traveler

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Thursday, October 19, 2006 5:42 PM

RMMC


'Night, Traveler!

Hey, I just checked...I seem to have successfully killed the other lastie thread a few weeks back having been the last to post.

Why do I not feel happy about this?


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Friday, October 20, 2006 12:50 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:

Originally posted by RMMC:
For some strange reason the hospital doesn't want us coming in with alcohol on our breath.



Along the same lines as my original reasons, I think it would be ok to have a little before working, depending on tolerance and transportation issues. Most people I know could do with a drink or two to relax them and it would also make the world an earier place to live.


Quote:

Originally posted by RMMC:
I care about being on the road with someone who is impaired in their judgement and reflexes. My brother was almost killed in an auto accident by someone who was high on pot. The guy was too stoned to realise that the light wasn't in his favor and slammed into my brother's car in an intersection.

Using it, and using it responsibly is a big difference. Please don't think I object to just driving under the influence of drugs. I want much stiffer drunk driving penalties, too. Loss of your driving license should happen the first time. Can't get to work? Too bad. Jail time for any injures or accidents caused. Fatal injuries should be tried as murder, not manslaughter.

Impairment is impairment. No one who is impared be it by drugs or alcohol (or a lack of sleep) should be allowed to operate a motorized vehicle. It's an instant recipie for accidents.



You make a very good point here (and I am so very sorry to hear about your brother, I hope the accident was not too serious). Most people I know and/or have experience with driving under the influence are extremely paranoid due to not wanting to get caught/arrested. I do agree that personal responsibilty is a major factor, whether driving under the influence of any substance (legal or not, some prescriptions can mess you up just as bad or worse than drinking and smoking) or even driving tired. Hell, I know folks who don't need to be on the road when they are fully awake and alert. Boggles the mind.

I also like the point about losing the license after the first time and not being able to make it to work (which would go for any drug, not just alcohol).


Quote:

Originally posted by RMMC:
For every object that can gain entry to your body or touch it, there is a percentage of the human population that is going to have either a sensitivity to it or an out-and-out allergic reaction. My point is that saying that 'everyone should be required to have this' is just as bad as saying 'no one should have this ever.' Perhaps a sentiment of 'anyone who wishes to indulge should be free to do so provided they're not infringing on someone else's right not to,' may be more in order? OMG! I'm being politically correct! AAAIIIEEE!!!!



See, here you have hit upon my basic life philosophy (you should be allowed to do what you want so long as it does not infringe on others' ability to do the same, basically the Golden Rule) which we appear to agree on spectacularly (a quality I find I have with many Browncoats [the agreeing, not so much the life philosophy]).

Quote:

Originally posted by RMMC:
My personal feeling about smoking at all is, that ALL smoking should be banned in public buildings as well as a minimum of 50 feet from any public building entrance.



I have very mixed feelings on this. I worked in a pool hall on campus at Georgia Tech when I was there, and at some point in my time at school they decided that they would ban smoking in said pool hall because it is a public school and therefore a government building and they could do that. Buisness suffered, which was bad for me. Secondly, I am a bartender, and last year in Georgia they banned all smoking in any establishment that you didn't have to be carded to get into (I work for a family restaurant chain). This very much impacted my actual income in a very negative way. People tend to drink more if they can sit and have a smoke with it, which I prefer to do myownself, being a smoker of regular cigarettes as well.

On the other hand, I do see the concern you have for the ban in public buildings. While I liked having a smoking section in the restaurant, it was poorly designed such that the salad bar, one of the main selling points, was right up against the smoking section. This still baffles me, even now that it is no longer allowed. The main problem with having smoking sections is not have an efficient/adequate way to ensure that the smoke stays in that section, and I can most certainly sympathize with that, having two little boys that I don't want to be around it. At home, we only smoke outside for that very reason.

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Sorry if this all came out harsh. I'm just a bit tired of folks thinking that this little bit of "fill-in-the-blank" can't possibly affect my asthma or allergies. They can and do. I don't go to church any longer as I can't be near most perfume either.



I don't think you need to be sorry for it, as it definitely affects your comfort level and health in living your life. My paternal grandmother, youngest brother, and wife all have asthma, so I definitely know that just about anything can set it off, having seen it firsthand.

hehehe, I don't go to church any more either, but for much different reasons .

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But...Thanks for taking the time to answer the info and all and not taking offense (I hope).



Sweetheart, it is damn near impossible to offend me. I am very glad you responded like this because I think that intelligent discussion is a very good thing. I do thank you for expressing your point of view on everything, and look forward to more of this kind of discussion (not necessarily on this topic, mind you) at any chance we get.



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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:37 PM

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DTH....I'm on dial-up and can still get in here. We've got a ways to go yet.




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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:47 PM

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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:51 PM

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:57 PM

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Hmmm. Some interesting discussion since I was here last.
I just saw a Bill Hicks thing on comedy central. I agreed with most of what he said. Actually, he sounded a lot like my dad as far as the stupid people and pot vs. alcohol thing goes. My dad had smoked marijuana and sigarettes for many years. He quite both at the same time about 7 years ago when he developed an asthma type illness. Not enough actual air to the lungs so he kept passing out. Actually a very cranky man for a while. Quit pot, sigs, and coffee (didn't taste right without the other flavors) all at the same time. *shudder*
As to the comment about allergies, yeah, my dad is a good example here to. He was a heavy drinker when he was young (and by all reports, a mean, angery sofabitch drunk) despite beeing allergic to it. He liked drinking a lot and may have become an alcoholic but the reactions got to the point of give it up or die. He chose the living thing.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 7:52 PM

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For some strange reason the hospital doesn't want us coming in with alcohol on our breath.



Along the same lines as my original reasons, I think it would be ok to have a little before working, depending on tolerance and transportation issues. Most people I know could do with a drink or two to relax them and it would also make the world an earier place to live.



Actually it has to do with patient safety. There have been cases of accidental patient deaths due to incorrect meds given by hospital personel who were impaired by either alcohol or drugs. It's actually grounds for immediate dismissal from the hospital I work for.

I work in billing, however, where the only damage I can do is bill the government for the wrong amount and get the FBI to come call.


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You make a very good point here (and I am so very sorry to hear about your brother, I hope the accident was not too serious). Most people I know and/or have experience with driving under the influence are extremely paranoid due to not wanting to get caught/arrested.



Glad to hear they're being cautious. It's the folks who have had enough not to be paranoid who tend to be the problem whatever the substance they've had. These are the folks who get others killed.

My brother was lucky--he had his seat belt on (the cops said he'd have been in very bad shape otherwise if not dead) when he got broadsided.

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I do agree that personal responsibilty is a major factor, whether driving under the influence of any substance (legal or not, some prescriptions can mess you up just as bad or worse than drinking and smoking) or even driving tired. Hell, I know folks who don't need to be on the road when they are fully awake and alert. Boggles the mind.



Yeah, I know. Tiredness is a major problem and another one I have no sympathy for. (Yep, more personal bad news...my sister and her 3 month old were killed by a driver who fell asleep at the wheel.)

And, much as I hate to say it, there are a number of older folks who should not be driving either. I've seen several accidents caused by the elderly driver not seeing well enough to be driving and not hearing the horns from several other vehicles warning them.

What this country really needs is a much better and more relaible public transportation system. The problem is we're so fricking huge, it's a gorram nightmare.

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I also like the point about losing the license after the first time and not being able to make it to work (which would go for any drug, not just alcohol).



Thanks. I worked with a habitual alcohol abuser who had a restricted license--he was only suppose to be allowed to drive to and from work--who was still getting picked up on DWI's. He was a nice guy but I really wish the judge had thrown the rutting book at him because nothing else was going to make him change his habits.


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See, here you have hit upon my basic life philosophy (you should be allowed to do what you want so long as it does not infringe on others' ability to do the same, basically the Golden Rule) which we appear to agree on spectacularly (a quality I find I have with many Browncoats [the agreeing, not so much the life philosophy]).



That's been my philosophy for quite some time. I just don't get the whole sticking you nose in someone's private business thing that so many folks seem to indulge in. It seems to be everyone's favorite sport at work (my thought about that is that if they have time to worry over what so-and-so's wearing, they don't have enough work to do and I'd be happy to give them some of mine.) This is even my philosophy in regard to religion: if it's not hurting anyone then it's none of my rutting business although I am curious about others beliefs and sometimes ask questions, but usually from folks I know well so as (hopefully) not to offend.

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Originally posted by RMMC:
My personal feeling about smoking at all is, that ALL smoking should be banned in public buildings as well as a minimum of 50 feet from any public building entrance.



I have very mixed feelings on this. I worked in a pool hall on campus at Georgia Tech when I was there, and at some point in my time at school they decided that they would ban smoking in said pool hall because it is a public school and therefore a government building and they could do that. Buisness suffered, which was bad for me. Secondly, I am a bartender, and last year in Georgia they banned all smoking in any establishment that you didn't have to be carded to get into (I work for a family restaurant chain). This very much impacted my actual income in a very negative way. People tend to drink more if they can sit and have a smoke with it, which I prefer to do myownself, being a smoker of regular cigarettes as well.

On the other hand, I do see the concern you have for the ban in public buildings. While I liked having a smoking section in the restaurant, it was poorly designed such that the salad bar, one of the main selling points, was right up against the smoking section. This still baffles me, even now that it is no longer allowed. The main problem with having smoking sections is not have an efficient/adequate way to ensure that the smoke stays in that section, and I can most certainly sympathize with that, having two little boys that I don't want to be around it. At home, we only smoke outside for that very reason.



Well, here are the reasons I've got for it:

1.) Poorly laid out restaurants. Non-smokers either have to go through smoking to get to non-smoking, or they have to go through it to get to either the buffet or the restrooms. (I've gone to restaurants and told them I need to be as far from smoking as possible...and been put right next to it.) There has been one restaurant chain (Eat'n Park in Pennsylvania) who had what I considered an adequate solution for this: the smoking section was a completely different room with closed doors.

2.) Health and well-being of waitstaff. Nothing makes me cringe more than a pregnant waitress having to work in a smoking section who is a non-smoker herself so it can be poisoning 2 people for the price of one. Waitstaff are not paid enough to shorten their lives in this manner nor do they have adequate enough healthcare to deal with the long term effects.

3.) I've had a number of stores I haven't been able to go into due to smokers surrounding the door outside. There should be shelters for them around the corner from the entrance where they can puff without causing problems for other customers and not get rained or snowed on and not be right in the wind either.


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Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
I don't think you need to be sorry for it, as it definitely affects your comfort level and health in living your life. My paternal grandmother, youngest brother, and wife all have asthma, so I definitely know that just about anything can set it off, having seen it firsthand.



Sorry to hear they've got this buggering health issue as well, but I'm glad you understand. Up until this generation, both sides of my family have been smokers, and at times heavy ones at that (maternal grandmother smoked a carton of unfiltered Camels a week until she died.)


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Originally posted by RMMC:
But...Thanks for taking the time to answer the info and all and not taking offense (I hope).



Sweetheart, it is damn near impossible to offend me. I am very glad you responded like this because I think that intelligent discussion is a very good thing. I do thank you for expressing your point of view on everything, and look forward to more of this kind of discussion (not necessarily on this topic, mind you) at any chance we get.



Yea! I like having these sorts of discussions as well, as long as people take them for what they are...discussions and not attacks. I look foward to more discussions with you as well.



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Saturday, October 21, 2006 8:59 AM

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I don't know if I can still get into this thread. My computer does strange things when I try. But here I am hoping this post will take hold.

Tell Phoenix Rose I am going to look for Invader Zim at Best Buys and if they don't carry it I know I can get it at Amason. There are several seasons so that will be a lot of viewing.

This may be my last post. But will continue to try.

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Saturday, October 21, 2006 7:46 PM

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Traveler, I don't think PhoenixRose can get in here any longer.

I'm shocked that I can. *boggle*

And since we haven't seen Pengiun in here for a bit:




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Sunday, October 22, 2006 6:15 AM

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Monday, October 23, 2006 12:28 AM

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I like all the puppies Penguin, nice.

Lasties.

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Monday, October 23, 2006 10:59 AM

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Some to hum to while making your next post.

AT LAST

At last, my love has come along
My lonely days are over
And life is like a song
At last, the skies above are blue
My heart was wrapped in clover
The night I looked at you
I found a dream that I can speak to
A dream that I can call my own
I found a thrill to press my cheek to
A thrill I've never known
You smilled, and then the spell was cast
And here we are in heaven
For you are mine, at last

Glenn Miller Band

If my memory serves me right this on one the last episodes of "Two Guys and a Girl". One of the guys knocks at a door and a woman in red opens it and drags him inside. They proceed to dance to this tune.
They changed the name of the show when they quit hanging out at the pizza joint.

This song seemed appropriate for this thread.

Penguin good to see your still with us and RiverisMyGoddess too. RMMC still pops in. I still can, but there are days this old computer wants to complain. I just knock it with my trusty computer repair hammer and here I am.




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