Male and Female Imponderables - Bathory Aria by Nicodemus

Firstyness!

*does the Firstyness dance*

DTH -

Fastlikeafreak today!

Kelkhil

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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:45 AM

amifisrtamifirstamifirst???

DAMMIT!!! So close!!!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:48 AM

Sorry, DTH. No Firstiness today.

Magda, Feel Better !!!!

Um...what's Bathory Aria?

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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:53 AM

*pouts* muttermutterstupidkelkhilruinsmyfirstyfunmutter

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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:58 AM

again DTH -

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Friday, October 20, 2006 3:59 AM

NICODEMUS

Quote:
Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Sorry, DTH. No Firstiness today.

Magda, Feel Better !!!!

Um...what's Bathory Aria?

Cradle of Filth track from the Cruelty and the Beast cd.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 4:01 AM

So what should we ponder?

I know! How about competitiveness can make some people REALLY MEAN!!!!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 4:12 AM

TRISTAN

*sniff*
Morning, all!
Thank you, Nico, for carrying this on for us today!

Still home sick. Just popping on to say hello to all. I missed quite a bit...if I get back on today, I'll go through them to catch up.

Oh, CMH, thanks for the facial hair pictures. a 16-year old with that thick of a beard...hell, the best I can do is a goatee, and that still takes a week and a half to grow! I chalk it up to the Penobscott and White Tribe blood in my system. Yeah, that's it!

That was the one thing that stuck in my head from the last one. That, an Magda's worry. Thank you, my sweet!

Alright, time for a nice hot shower followed by a nap. See you all soon!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 4:15 AM

Have to sign off soon so *hugs* and

in case I don't see you again, Tristan. Take care!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 4:24 AM

I'd hug you Tristan honey, but this dratted sinus infection has taken a turn for the worse and I don't want to add to your misery...I'll share my tea with honey though:)

Magda- morning ( well evening ) big sis. Sent an email. Sleep well HUGS

oooh competativeness...we were just talking about this yesterday in faculty room. I say women are more competative and Travis ( other teacher) says guys are...so what do y'all think?

ooh and goodnight DTH:)

and Kelkhil- can we make sure the green tea is all stocked up at the bar?

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Friday, October 20, 2006 4:32 AM

NICODEMUS

I'd like to refine the pondering to that of competitive parents, who push their kids too hard and get abusive when watching the sporting match from the sidelines.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 4:33 AM

Y'all are vectors of contagion! Stay away! ( But feel better!)

I'll be off and on today - trying to iron something out with Natuzzi and I don't think they are understanding my problems via IM in my crappy translated Italian.
*That, and it's almost 4:45 PM there - quitting time.

And the pondering? I think it depends on what the competitiveness is about. Men and women are competitive about different things. I wouldn't say I'm too competitive with sports - but at work I would have to say I am.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 4:56 AM

Mavoureen-I'm not touching you ( said in the manner of small annoying child) I'm not touching you.

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Friday, October 20, 2006 5:07 AM

Mom! Lila's touching me!!! Tell her to stay on her side of the car!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 5:13 AM

Mom- she made cross eyes at me and I'm not touching her...whine whine whine
*giggle*

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Friday, October 20, 2006 5:36 AM

Oh sure you all run away just because I'm sick....

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Friday, October 20, 2006 5:41 AM

No, no ( she said in a soothing voice ) that's not it at ALL!

Dad! She's being paranoid again!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 5:44 AM

Mavourneen--I agree. I think men and women are all competitive but in completely different ways. Of course there are going to be some overlaps, but I think men tend to be more physically competitive and women perhaps more towards other, less physical things. I dunno, though. I know some women who play rugby and they're scary competitive, and I also know plenty of men who are becoming stay at home dads and are filling a more traditionally female role. If I think about it more, I think the lines between male and female competitiveness are blurring. *shrugs*I'm confusing myself.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 5:50 AM

hmm- yeah I would say women are more competative about physical appearance and more emotional things and men are more competative about contest or score based things... makes sense

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:12 AM

But I think both can be and are competitive about their kids. Everyone's kids are the best. Or maybe even everyone's SO is the best. I like that kind of competitive.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:14 AM

Sorry for the double post--my computer wants to freeze when I try to edit my posts for some reason. *kicks computer*

I also wanted to say thank you to everyone who's welcomed me to the thread. Thanks all! *huggles*

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:19 AM

Hey we love new people :) and you seem great!..no worries on the double postiness..it happens tons:)

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:24 AM

Ack- Sorry for the slow response, and my poor manners. Good to see new faces in the Imponderables thread, and over in the bar!

Ok, and now for an unscheduled, mildly zenophobic rant. I apologize in advance to anyone of Italian Heritage, who is from Italy, or occasionally enjoys a good Italian meal.

FRAKIN ITALIANS! WHAT PART OF 'CANCEL THIS ORDER' DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?
IT'S AN EASY CONCEPT.
*ANNULLI L'ORDINE*

* ahem. Maybe annulli l'ordine actually means I'm asking for a plate of calamari...but I doubt it.

*ooooh that felt good to get off my chest.
Again, I apologize.

*MsG, wait till kids come. The competitive streak comes out strong amongst other women around you with kids. It's kind of weird. All of the sudden, their Johnny is a wunderkind, and yours is a dullard. Then you push back with something else competitive, because of course your child is npo dullard.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:31 AM

Good Moring to all. Glad to see Tristan back. Poor guys still sick but he's tuff. Hola!

So I called he last night after work. Seemed a bit surprised and a little flustered because of work. Anyhoo, we're plannin' on Saturday night shooting at a place with good tables. Gotta call in the morning to confirm (Kid stuff and all).

Still a bit sceptical, but I'm really tryin' to push the walls down. Don't need anything getting in my way. Just picture the Hulk or Juggernaut smashing through a brick wall.

Oh yeah. Thats the stuff.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:31 AM

RUGBUG

Ah, sorry to hear of all the sickies. Seems everyone around me is ill and I'm just doing my best to stay healthy. Feel better anyone who's ailing.

]Originally posted by msg:
oooh competativeness...we were just talking about this yesterday in faculty room. I say women are more competative and Travis ( other teacher) says guys are...so what do y'all think?

There's a quote from a movie that goes something like this:

'when guys compete it's cars and fists.' "When girls compete, it's art." (I only know the second part is word for word)

I completely agree with that. Girls aren't as overt about competition. A lot of how we compete, at least in non-sports/games type venues is about the mental aspect. I think men tend to compete more in the physical realm.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Friday, October 20, 2006 6:40 AM

Way to go, NV. A good game of 9 ball is a great first date. Keep us in the loop - hug for you!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 7:01 AM

RUGBUG

I open a response window, type my response, and you all go wild. Eek.

I do have to say that I am more competitive about sports/games then I am anything else. I couldn't care less about competing with some other woman on the basis of who's prettier. The other one's usually going to win, so.... I spent too much of my high school career being the ugly friend to try and compete on looks or for guys. You want him? You can have him.

Sports is a different matter. I HATE losing. A I've gotten older I've learned how to deal with it well, but I still don't like to lose. I always play to win, be it a horse show, volleyball, or trivial pursuit. If I don't think I have a shot at winning, I don't want to compete.

NVG: be careful with that one. Let her chase you. In this case it's not game playing. She's already proven she can't be trusted (and I personally didn't like how you said she answered the phone the day...the "it's your favorite person" thing.) Just be careful.

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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

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Friday, October 20, 2006 7:06 AM

Hmmm. Rugbug has a point. I do like the her chasing you part, and she's right - I was surprised at the way she answered the phone, too.

ok. While I don't retract my previous post, I amend it to agree with the Wise Rugbug.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 7:13 AM

VERSEEXPLORER

I do feel that I'm not a competitive person in most things. If it's a sports game, I enjoy the game, and I don't care who wins. I don't feel competitive with other women's physical appearance. Although, get me in a mental game, and I'm ruthless. I am a vicious tigress that must win. I enjoy strategy games and math games. It seems like my masculine side takes over. It helps me empathize with men that go nuts over sporting events.

I made a web site to introduce my friends to the 'Verse.
http://web.mac.com/arcadianlc

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Friday, October 20, 2006 7:13 AM

Three rule to a gunfight as taught by my Uncle:

1. If you know theres gonna be a fight be smart enough to stay the hell out of it.

2. If you need to shoot you opponent in the back it ain't cheating, its survival.

3. Always take a knife to a gunfight. Bullets ain't infinite.

Applying these rules to the situation seems odd, but it works. I'm already in the fight I just need to finish it.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 7:38 AM

well we have our fingers crossed that this works out in a happy way for you...and good casual date choice too by the way/ HUGS. Just remember my offer to shave her bald and drag her thrugh the streets so that all can mock her for havign the stupiidity to mess up the best thing she's ever going to get is always open:)

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Friday, October 20, 2006 7:42 AM

But you can't drag her by the hair if you shave her bald.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:06 AM

She didn't specify which hair she was going to drag her by.

Sorry! Sorry! Sorry! So sorry! Couldn't resist! Very sorry! Leaving now! Forget I posted! Sorry!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:09 AM

A contingency plan is always well accepted in a time of crisis. And yes, it had already crossed my mind.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:24 AM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN

Well NVG after MSG is through with her I think that she'd still have to deal with the rest of us Browncoats. I hope for your sake that it doesn't come to that, it could get powerfully ugly.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
She didn't specify which hair she was going to drag her by.

I just posted the same thing and had to change it.

You beat me with firstyness on this DTH

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:30 AM

See? All I needed was a little coffee to get me back to my perky self :)

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:43 AM

Quote:
She didn't specify which hair she was going to drag her by.

Oh, snap! OMG I can't stop laughing...and I'm at work!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:47 AM

Nooo! It's not funny! It's naughty and shocking and I'm going straight to the special hell! I just couldn't resist though. I'm a bad hippie.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:53 AM

You dirty bad hippie you. Get in line for the special hell.
*It forms behind Kelkhil*

At least it won't be lonely there!

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:53 AM

Now see I thought it was funny...and I could also drag her by an ear or any other available stickyout part...

Does it feel weird that we've had so little of Tristan, FMF, and Penguin around...I'm defintely feeling like they're a bit busy for us and all. I understand, but sheesh!!!
OK that's it FMF, Penguin, and Tristan ( when you feel better) you better get your butts to those computer screens and log in and see us...or we're having a road trip to pester you!!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 8:56 AM

Yaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy!!!! Road trip!!!!!!!!! *starts packing*

I call front seat!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 9:01 AM

yeah 'cause they got new jobs and now they don't have time to play with us...HEY that's so wrong.
I guess it's cause I'm sick and big sis Magda's off sleeping, I just miss my better half FMF:( and I'm guessing from that response you guys miss her too.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 9:01 AM

You're sooo right. I like the group input...and when several regular posters are MIA, you can feel the difference.

FMF- working
Tristan- sick
Penguin- here in AM, but off doing kingly things now.

(And I miss FMF too, MsG!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 9:05 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Well, from what I can tell from most of the threads I read, Competition is Fierce be it woman or man. Firstiness is the equivalent of King of the Hill around here. And now theres this new twisted twist (apologies, MsG; to quote Kaneman "but it's true") about wench-by-the-shorthairs-dragging competitions, I begin to wonder! We're not even sure she's the enemy yet. And with as many Wiccan's abroad as we have, I'm sure we wouldn't want to rush to judgment without actually holding Fair and Balanced trials, eh? Never forget.

Oh, come on, everybody. Lighten up. I was just kidding. Jeez.

Actually, I wanted to drop in one last ponderable about facial hair. (Shock! You all though it was going to be about underwear again, didn't you? 'Fess up...) When facial hair really is bad...:
http://www.dailyhaha.com/_vids/dog_making_out_with_sleeping_kid.wmv

EDIT:

Quote:
Originally posted by Kelkhil:
Get in line for the special hell.

Aren't most of us part of the Forsaken already??

"Well, here I am."

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Friday, October 20, 2006 9:49 AM

TRISTAN

Hello, again, fellow ponderer-er-ers...

RiverTwin, glad to see you made it over here!

I'm doing better. All I want to do today is sleep, so in the "in-between naps" stage, I have been trying to get online. I'll be here for a spell, but my bed is calling again.

RugBug, do what they did during the plague...lock youself in your home and put an arrow into anyone that gets too close. Although, I suppose as we now have firearms, a bullet would work just as well.

NVG, I would like to add some wisdom my stepfather taught me in dealing with guns.
1)Do not carry it if you do not know you can use it.
2)Do not draw your weapon unless you mean to shoot someone.
3)Do not shoot someone unless you mean to kill them.

Dragging by alternate hair...oy, that's a scary visual....

MSG, I have not been avoiding y'all...I have the plague and can't keep up with everything! Please forgive me!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 10:08 AM

Can't wait for ya to get better. Props on all the costume/jacket work.

I might be out soon so if I miss anyone then I'l see y'all later.

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Friday, October 20, 2006 10:15 AM

TRISTAN

Thank you, NVG...you and me both!
Thanks for the props. If I don't talk to you, have a great weekend!

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Friday, October 20, 2006 10:24 AM