Remember remember. . . by Cybersnark

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Remember remember. . .

POSTED BY: CYBERSNARK
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 7, 2006 00:12
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 6:18 AM

Remember, remember, the fifth of November,
The treason and gunpowder plot.

I can't think of a reason the gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.

Happy Guy Fawkes day to our UK brethren.

Now go watch V for Vendetta.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 7:21 AM

DARKFLY

Yeah Cybersnark just saw V For Vendetta on DVD a month ago,its definitely worth watching best film I've seen this year.And right now in the UK the fireworks have already started even as I'm writing this I can hear fireworks.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 7:27 AM

SIMONWHO

Quote:
Originally posted by Cybersnark:

I can't think of a reason the gunpowder treason
Should ever be forgot.

How about the over-Americanisation of Halloween and the resulting emphasis on that holiday to Guy Fawkes's detriment?

Trick or treat? Trick or treat? This is England!

*throws bucket of water over small children*

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 7:36 AM

CHOO1701

How about go READ V for Vendetta? So much better. (although the Movie does have many, MANY good qualities)

And yes, the fireworks have already started!!!

Its only pissing 5:34 pm, yet as pitch black as midnight.

Remever remeber the fifth of November....

That, and anyone see Serenity's UK premiere on Sky Movies last night?

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TRAIN!!!

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 7:56 AM

PURPLEBELLY

Halloween is a Papist plot. There are still some holding on to good Protestant ways in this, the land of the Marian Martyrs.
http://www.lewesbonfirecouncil.org.uk/

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 8:36 AM

DARKFLY

The fireworks started around 4.45pm in Chester.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 8:57 AM

DARKFLY

I knew it was on Sky but couldn't watch it cause I don't have Sky,I only have Freeview.The Fireworks are starting to piss me off now...pretty lights...crap fireworks & its only going to get worse closer to midnight & in to the early morning.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 9:00 AM

CHINDI

people should not fear their government.. the government should fear the people...

amen

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:09 AM

KAYNA

I love my captain

You know, I'm just amused that all of a sudden us Amercians know what Guy Fawks day is. I knew for I while because I'm interested in odd things and look it up after seeing it on a calander. Untill V came out, however, I didn't know a single other person who knew what it was.

It's like that one line in Dogman. " You people! If there isn't a movie about it it's not worth knowing is it?"

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 12:01 PM

CYBERSNARK

Actually, I used to identify Guy Fawkes Day as the day we celebrated someone whose only claim to fame was that he failed to do something.

He's been an inspiration to me since. . . well, since high school.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 1:05 PM

CHINDI

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You know, I'm just amused that all of a sudden us Amercians know what Guy Fawks day is. I knew for I while because I'm interested in odd things and look it up after seeing it on a calander. Untill V came out, however, I didn't know a single other person who knew what it was.

Maybe you were hanging around with the wrong peeps!

I have known about the Guy for a long time too.. penny for the guy... careful about that assuming...lol

Chindi

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 1:25 PM

TEACHDAIRE

Quote:
Originally posted by Darkfly:
Yeah Cybersnark just saw V For Vendetta on DVD a month ago,its definitely worth watching best film I've seen this year.And right now in the UK the fireworks have already started even as I'm writing this I can hear fireworks.

You can only hear them? It's like a fricking war zone where I am...

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 1:31 PM

ODDSBODSKINS

was much bigger then halloween when i was growing up, well, when i had more growing to do (actually, no physical growing to grow, sideways perhaps, but spiritual and all that

) but it seems to have fallen by the wayside.

'when aaaaye wis a wein!'

'children these days!'

Ah! What is not a dream by day
To him whose eyes are cast
On things around him with a ray
Turned back upon the past?

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 1:44 PM

SERYN

Is anyone really disappointed by fireworks now they've grown up? I remeber them being great, all twinkly and fizzy, with catherine wheels and fountains on the ground, and huge great big ones that would shoot into the sky and it would almost be like raining lights.

Now the catherine wheels have gone, as has anything that produces more light than sound. It sounds like an army is advancing, and all you get for that concussion inducing barrage of noise is a headache and a doped out pet dog trying to crawl up you trouser leg (she's a great dane old english mastiff cross, its taken two kalms a night to keep her unstressed enough to function, but we still haven't been able to get her to eat anything since the third, so when she try'na crawl onto your knee, you know about it)

Am i just being a crotchety old woman, or are they just not making decent firworks any more?

Makes you wish they had succeeded in the plot, then people would have really put some effort into celebrating, and we'd have fireworks like those in LOTR:FOTR. Wheeeeeee!

But, another year gone, oh dear, couple more weeks of dodging chavs armed with a rocket and not a single thing even resembling an ounce of intelligence and it'll be christmas season.

oh god, oh god oh god,

Can we blow up christmas?

Yours, ever sourly, Seryn.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
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Sunday, November 5, 2006 2:17 PM

ELOISA

*similarly grumbly* What do you bet if teenagers nowadays did Mischief Night (4th November) the way they're meant to, they'd get an ASBO?

Stupid legislation. *hauls gunpowder into Parliament*

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 2:33 PM

ODDSBODSKINS

but, there's none left without them to get given them :S

see seryn, you just have to find the right display, the one's in edinburgh on hogmanay are still mightily impressive, even to my jaded and cynical mind. it's a matter of scale, and standing half a mile away ^_~

Ah! What is not a dream by day
To him whose eyes are cast
On things around him with a ray
Turned back upon the past?

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 2:44 PM

RMMC

Quote:
Originally posted by Kayna:
You know, I'm just amused that all of a sudden us Amercians know what Guy Fawks day is. I knew for I while because I'm interested in odd things and look it up after seeing it on a calander. Untill V came out, however, I didn't know a single other person who knew what it was.

I knew of it. heck when I went to the UK in 1994 the kids were already out with their effigies in late October soliciting funds.

I gave 'em a couple of pounds.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:17 PM

SERYN

Well, ok then, but all us jaded types had better get the invitation to come up and see it next year or no one will believe a word you say dearie.

Though the standing half a mile away thing is good, in Liverpool it doesn't work, cause you stand half a mile away and you can't see anything but very big shipping warehouses. Its done from the big hill with the castle on it I take it? The nearest one here is done from the park accross the raod from my house.

There used to be a great one, a barge would amble up the mersey and set off fireworks in time to the music it was playing, but that seemed to stop. Then there was a huge public display in Birkenhead Park (which was the model for Central park in New York, so you can imagine how that lay out helped) but that didn't appear to be on last night, and there were no bonfires.

I don't know why they stopped them - surely they are the whole point? and they survived through the shell suit years. I can't decide wheather it was the authorities not wanting the cretins to hurt themselves, or to make sure that they were obliged to do so by building their own fires and taking themselves out in spectacular ways garanteed a special mention at the Darwin Awards.

Could it all be a cleverly thought out chav culling initiative?

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:27 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Hey Odds

... you'll always be my toy boy!

well... my Jailbait anyway!

and... Hey & Darkfly!! Did you know Josh06 lived in Chester?? I love Chester - one of my favourite places in te UK actually...

Well - just putting in my 10p worth - I might be born & raised in Australia, but I am half British and have grown up on the tales of Guy Fawkes and the November plot!!

And may I just say "can-you-spare-a-penny-for-the-Guy?" (imagine it really fast in a Midlands accent...)

Oh - yeah - I loved the film too - but then one of my very favourite actors was 'V' so...

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:47 PM

MRT

I'd have to put Worcester forward as having damn good fireworks, but never on Guy Faulks night! we have them for various other celebrations and as I live on a hill we get a fabulous vieW of the cathedral with thousands of pounds of pyrotechnics exploding above it! Many a time we have sat out of an evening with a drink and enjoyed the display!

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:50 PM

EVILBUNGLE

What is Mischeif night? never heard of that, but then where I live it is every night!!

On another note about the cancellation of public events as a member of our local council we had to cancel ours as no one comes anymore, one year we had 12 people turn up (an event that cost £3k) so we cancelled it and everyone was outraged and complained, we re-instated it the next year and 8 people turned up!!

we can't put on an event that no-one wants!!

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 10:53 PM

SERYN

I just have to move out of liverpool.

I have to admit though the best fireworks i ever saw were a new years eave when i was living in a flat on the top floor of a house on top of the tallest hill for miles, and had windows pointing out in every direction, so i we just spent the night moving from one window t'other, watching all the different displays.

Isn't sanity really a one trick pony, anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy...ooh hoo hoo hoo... the skys the limit!
http://www.myspace.com/seryndippyt

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Monday, November 6, 2006 11:25 AM

RMMC

Quote:
Originally posted by EvilBungle:
What is Mischeif night? never heard of that, but then where I live it is every night!!

I never heard of it either. Maybe it's a reference to Devil's Night which is Oct 30th. It's a night of tricks, pranks and general 'deviltry' for the kids. Then they've got the unmitigated gall to come beg for candy the next night.

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Monday, November 6, 2006 11:46 AM

ELOISA

Quote:
Originally posted by RMMC:
Quote:
Originally posted by EvilBungle:
What is Mischeif night? never heard of that, but then where I live it is every night!!

I never heard of it either. Maybe it's a reference to Devil's Night which is Oct 30th. It's a night of tricks, pranks and general 'deviltry' for the kids. Then they've got the unmitigated gall to come beg for candy the next night.

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RMMC

Nope. Mischief Night is 4th November; I think the rationale is meant to be that Guy Fawkes was betrayed on 4th November, but it's probably an excuse for getting up to Lord knows what. It's like trick-or-treat without the asking for treats first. Where I spent most of my childhood in rural Lancashire (north-west England), Halloween trick-or-treating is for under-tens, and the teens go out on Mischief Night. Ever seen a pile of fifty car hub caps?

Edited to add that your reference to 30th October is probably the same event in a different culture.

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Monday, November 6, 2006 11:50 AM

MSG

V for Vendetta is AMAZING. One of the best movies I have ever seen...

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Monday, November 6, 2006 11:56 AM

RMMC

Quote:
Originally posted by Eloisa:
Quote:
Originally posted by RMMC:
Quote:
Originally posted by EvilBungle:
What is Mischeif night? never heard of that, but then where I live it is every night!!

I never heard of it either. Maybe it's a reference to Devil's Night which is Oct 30th. It's a night of tricks, pranks and general 'deviltry' for the kids. Then they've got the unmitigated gall to come beg for candy the next night.

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RMMC

Nope. Mischief Night is 4th November; I think the rationale is meant to be that Guy Fawkes was betrayed on 4th November, but it's probably an excuse for getting up to Lord knows what. It's like trick-or-treat without the asking for treats first. Edited to add that your reference to 30th October is probably the same event in a different culture.

Roger that. Kids are kids everywhere.

I was a good kid. I didn't do the pranks. I hid in our bushes with our Alsatian and waited for some else to try to prank us. Heh, heh, heh.

Quote:
Originally posted by Eloisa:
Where I spent most of my childhood in rural Lancashire (north-west England), Halloween trick-or-treating is for under-tens, and the teens go out on Mischief Night. Ever seen a pile of fifty car hub caps?

I live in Detroit (okay, one of its suburbs). Of course I have. And they're usually trying to sell 'em back to ya at that.

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Monday, November 6, 2006 8:35 PM

PURPLEBELLY

Bonfire night can be political as well as sectarian.
We don't just burn Fawkes and the Pope, but also Bush, Blair and Rice(portrayed as Wonder Woman - sorry Joss). In past years, burning effigies of asylum seekers has led to court action, and it appers that Gengis Khan has been recruited as the token Yellow Peril.
These links are to a local newspaper report and video
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.1004963.0.\
police_hail_a_successful_night_as_50_000_see_lewes_festivities.php
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/videos/index.var.1114.0.0.php

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Tuesday, November 7, 2006 12:12 AM

EVILBUNGLE

couple of years back they burnt a caravan with gypsy effagies inside, everyone was outraged as they had a woman and child effagy as well!! obviously burning a male gypsy must be ok!!

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