Male and Female Imponderables--Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain by Tristan

And as they get older you could mail them to me one by one!

keep a couple though for breeding purposes!

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Monday, November 13, 2006 6:31 AM

Morning, all!
Monday, Monday....ick.

This goes back a bit...oddly enough, even with my theatre background and love of performing, I am not a big fan of live theatre productions. Having been involved 'behind the scenes', so to speak, for so long has kind of ruined the allure for me. I still like the ocassional show, but it is not something I enjoy.

:hugs: to you, Magda. And a nice, cool

Hmm. Late night becomes early morning to me when the sun rises.

That used to mean it was time to go to bed...now it means it's time to wake up. Ah, the joys of an 8-5 job. *sigh*

Marina, as far as trusting my parents to find a mate for me...I think I would be willing to give it a shot, considering my track record!

Matter of fact, I might give them a call, see if they have anyone in mind...

CMH, morning! Fighting and killing...yep, there are days I would like to just drop everything and just wander out into the woods...try my luck there.
I do like controlled conflict...like I have discussed before. But, I don't think I could just randomly break into violence. Could I kill someone if necessary? I'd like to think so, but I won't know until faced with that option. I'm optimistic enough to hope it never happens.
As far as right and wrong, I do not think there are "definites"; I believe each society breeds there own set, and the citizens are expected to follow these rules. So, I agree with your post on that.

JTD...ok, could not have said it better myself! Someone will always be pissed off...I like the way you said that; makes perfect sense.

Magda, thank you for sharing your gathering. Wow. I would be willing to bet that was a very moving experience.

BSC, good to see you back in the saddle!
La Boheme? Really? Huh...that may be one that I want to see. Keep us informed, ok?

KingJayne, welcome to the thread...oh, and the site, too! Glad you joined us.
I watched that video. Yep, it does put things in perspective.

Marina...huh. Maybe I should look into those arranged marriage things. They don't sound too bad at all!

..."string of cuss words"....hehehe.

MSG. No. Absolutely not. Beyond the shadow of a doubt out of the question.
*ahem*
Sorry. I'm better now. That was in response to the loving someone you can't trust. It is difficult for people being able to gain my trust, and it is a delicate thing. I do understand the intentional vs. accidental, soo. I am capable of caring for people I don't really trust, but I could care for them. As far as a significant other I could not trust? Well, I divorced the last one.

CMH, once again...in the beginning, I did not like you. You know that.

But, I can say that I really appreciate the fact that you hung around and have turned into a great poster. You have good insight, are quite articulate, and a joy to converse with. There are still times I cringe, but I do that with several other people, too. Know that I am happy and honored to know you.

PR! What does it feel like to be well-rested? I envy you!

RIMG, sorry things are not well in your part of the 'Verse.

Anything we can do to help, let us know.

KelKhil...I shouldn't try to catch up, either...by the time I finish typing, another half dozen or so posts have gone by.
So, morning!

Mavourneen, time to release the cat! (see id you can get the one they used in Mousehunt, I think it was called)

Morning, DTH! Has it stopped raining over there yet?

Ok...caught up for now...time for more coffee!

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Monday, November 13, 2006 6:41 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Morning Tristan! Morning all!

No rain over here today, although it is pretty dark. And cold! At least my cold is better now.

We had some gale force winds last night, but no damage. All's well in the world :)

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Monday, November 13, 2006 6:44 AM

Good Morning to all the great Ponderers. Long weekend. Busy morning. But all is good. See y'all in a bit.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 7:10 AM

DTH, glad to hear you are over the ick!

NVG, morning!

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Monday, November 13, 2006 7:12 AM

Mornin' brutha man.

Though of something funny. I get "Thanks for saving my ass" so much that I need something new.

Does me wanting to hear "Thanks, now here's some ass" sound a little piggish?

Just wondering.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 7:26 AM

NVG, if it were only that easy! Like in the movies..."Is there anything I can do to repay you?"..."Actually, yes. Yes, there is!"

How was the weekend?

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Monday, November 13, 2006 7:26 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

mornin' (again) Imponderables.

Hey to everyone that has come since last time.

I just wanted you guys to know that you always make my day more shiny, and today it has helped out a lot. Thanks. :)

~Jimi
jimi dot spettel at gmail dot com
Self-Proclaimed Grand Vizier of Georgia

- Animation by DesktopHippie

"Marijuana not only should be legal, it should be manditory." - Bill Hicks

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Monday, November 13, 2006 7:36 AM

Great sig RIMG. If only I had a shiny Jayne-like hat...

So yeah Tristan, If only...

Weekend: Went well. Sold some decoys and took the shop circut (Fallon to Reno to Carson then home). FOund the Kimber I'd had previously at a much better price so guess what Joe Joe gets for Christmas (See Christmas thread). Called a guy runnin' a small security firm in Reno and considering making some extra money next year. Just gotta get my CCW. Woo Hoo!

Got to see GND this morning for a bit before going to work. I obviously have feelings for her, as my friend Mindy said I more than likely do. Time to have the "How goo a friends are we?" talk.

And great choice on thread title. Always reminded me of our dad. Little sad, but thats the way things go.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 7:57 AM

RIMG, this place always makes me fell better....glad it's doing the same for you!

NVG, sounds like a good weekend!
You sure a case will be enough?

Happy to hear about the GND decision. You know the Browncoats are behind you on this one!

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Monday, November 13, 2006 7:58 AM

Morning all...sorry I haven't posted until now but it's been an unusually busy day

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 8:09 AM

Glad to have you in MSG.

I'll have bought one next payday so if I burn two thousand rounds by New Years I'll be feelin' pretty good and pretty bad. Good because, well, its shootin'. Bad because they range from 150 to 200 bucks a pop. Need to get a 22 conversion I guess.

Off to Sissy's court.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 8:19 AM

Good Luck NV- Let me know how it turns out. BIG HUGS!! We're here for you ok

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 8:45 AM

MAVOURNEEN

I second that, NV. We're all here for you...and so is my big ol' Cinder Block

(((hug)))

Is anyone else feelin' a weird board vibe today, or is it me? Maybe it's just me and the funky overcast weather.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 9:12 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Lots of love and positive vibes, NVG! Best of luck!

*admires RIMG's hat* A person walks down the street in a hat like that, people know he's a browncoat!

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Monday, November 13, 2006 9:30 AM

Felt the need to do this

I wish I were this dog right now:)

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 9:33 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Awww, he's so cute!

Actually, I wouldn't mind legs that long either

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Monday, November 13, 2006 9:42 AM

He's my sister's dog Dugan:) We call him Doogie and he's Annie's pet:)

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 9:51 AM

That dog looks like the Striders from The Dark Crystal!

Wow total childhood flashback there.

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Monday, November 13, 2006 9:53 AM

KelKhil, I had the same thought! That is one long-legged puppy!

So, nothing to ponder? Got to do something until NVG has an update....

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Monday, November 13, 2006 9:57 AM

hmm well I am currently pondering why, when I made a list of actors/characters that I am really attracted to, only 1 of them was under 40 and most were over 45-50...what does this say about me???

Ok my nuttiness aside...Let's ponder this what do the contents of your home library say about you??

Mine says I am obsessed with murder, violence, and crime.

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:00 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD

Not sure if this'll make a good one or not:

A friend and I got into a disagreement yesterday. The actual subject was about jealousy, and whether or not it's "right" or "OK" to feel it in certain situations. Like, if you have absolutely no right or relation to something, but you want it, and seeing other people that have it makes you jealous.

My point was that I recognize that it's not reasonable, and of course wouldn't act on it, but I can't help the feeling itself. His argument was that feeling it at all makes me fucked up in the head, and that I should actively look to dispel it.

But this can go to a great question, beyond just jealousy, can't it? Is it OK to want to do something very, very mean, hurtful, or what might otherwise be considered "Evil" as long as you don't act on it? Should you accept those feelings and just try to control them, or try to get rid of them completely in recognition that allowing them to linger could lead to acting on them?

MSG - I think that says that you prefer mature men. It's an impressive trait, and not something you should feel weird about. I knew a girl in High School who was attracted to Sean Connery, and was thoroughly impressed with her.

[IMG]

Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkyries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:01 AM

My current celebrity attractions are Milla Jovovich and Kate Beckinsale...and I am pretty sure that says I am attracted to tough, beautiful women...but I already knew that!

My library is an eclectic mix, but the books on display are mostly history, psychology, and sci-fi/fantasy novels...

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:02 AM

Mine says the Wifey buy too many books!

Oh wait I read sometimes too I guess. Um.... I don't really know. Never thought about it. I like Sci-Fi, Some Horror (Not King! Man I hate King!), Mystery, Some Historical Fiction. I guess it means I am a pretty unorganized, off the wall goof!

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:04 AM

MAVOURNEEN

Yay MSG! Good Topic.

Having managed bookstores for most of my adult life, I always look at a person's bookshelf and see a reflection of them. I don't look into medicine cabinets, I look at bookshelves.

Alphabetized? Things all askew? No organization whatsoever? Fiction and Non-Fiction mixed?

Bookshelves really resemble their owners. Like pets, only quieter. Generally.

*So, MsG. Tired, huh?

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:11 AM

CMH, I have been in your shoes, I think. There have been things I wanted that other people had...I felt jealousy, but seldom acted on it. Mostly, it had to do with who they were dating at the time, things like that. It's human nature to want what you can't have at times, and everyone is guilty of it. I would say that acting on an irrational jealousy would be bad...but having the feeling itself? Nope. Been there!
I think everyone has wished someone else were dead at one point or another in their lives, and sometimes daydream about doing it. This is also healthy, as long as it is not acted out, obviously. I believe there are healthy ways to deal with these feelings, such as letting them run their course...it's not necessary to lock them away, or to try to purge them.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
Bookshelves really resemble their owners. Like pets, only quieter. Generally.

Then you can't come over to my house

! All the book shelves are filled and double stacked! They used to be organised but have long since lost that quality. You also cannot enter a room in my house and not spot at least one stack of books on a counter or someplace else that they do not belong.

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:17 AM

CMH- I think you mean envy- when you want something that is possessed by another. Hmm I'd say yes it's fine to feel something as long as you know better than to act on it. For example, today one of my students was sitting on my last nerve. He's kind of smug about his "tough guy" thing and I am well aware that I could easily take him down. I'd love to do it and wipe the smirk off his face, but that'd be totally wrong. So instead I sent him to another class, met with him after and talked about why I was bothered and what I needed and we made a contract...I still really want to smack that smirk off, but I won't. SO I guess this is a long way of saying, feelings are instinctual and impulsive we do not always control them. Acting on them is a choice and as long as we refrain from acting on bad/evil/unkind impulses, having them is just part of being human. Having a lot of them might mean you need to look at why you have them and what you can do to find another way to think:) HUGS

EDIT- I have so many books that there are 8 bookshelves, 3 corner shelves, 9 under bed boxes, one book bucket, and three or four other surfaces with books covering them...I have a problem, I accept that, and I buy more books:)

Tristan- My big ones are Alan Rickman, Tony Todd, Sean Bean...what can I say, I like older, aggressive, intelligent guys with more than a little wickedness in their souls...

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:26 AM

MAVOURNEEN

You just HAD to mention him, didn't you.

He's Bean-tastic.

And, just to clarify, my shelves overfloweth as well. Not neat at all.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:28 AM

ZEEK

Catching up with you guys is an effort in futility. I'll just stick with the latest and greatest.

Bookshelf: too many fiction books. I guess I wish the world were a cooler place. I also think I have too many books since I hardly ever reread the majority of them. Though it is nice to be able to just grab one before a flight or something. Anyway MsG's collection would put me to shame. I just have a couple shelves worth.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 10:36 AM

Mavoureen- oh yeah!! How could I not mention the wild. wicked, and ever so dangerous Mr. Bean...plus he's a great dad so how could you do any better than that??

Zeek- it's a sickness with me. I love to read so much that I'd rather read than breathe( I realize this wouldn't last long) I read 4-5 books in a day and re-read ones I like often so I have tons of books around always. Fiction, Non-Fiction, textbooks...I just really love reading:)

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:11 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

There just something about the Imponderables. It's like a heroin (not heroine, but sometimes that, too) addiction: I can't get enough. But by the time I get to responding to anything ten other tangents present themselves and in a never-ending loop, I read them to catch up and be current and on and on...as Tristan pointed out).

So, I'm holding off on all relevent and recent posts and opt to clarify my original imponderance for this thread. I agree with the posts that I read in response that the very idea of "soft porn" is like, to borrow a song lyric from Savage Garden, "deep sea diving with a raincoat on" (not sure if that's what they meant by it but it fits here).

I wasn't trying to get a porn thread started. Really. It was just the weird sensation of having something so iconic to us being represented in such a way. Is it good that we're "famous" enough to be lampooned by someone outside the loop (MST3K is kith and kin to us), or is it just plain bad to be connected to such mindless yuck?

Hugs to all and I'll try to respond to some particulars here tonight.

EDIT: And no, I'm not Pussy Footing Around, or whatever Kelkhil accused me of. "PUSF" on all of you!

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:22 AM

hmm you know Jonny I'm not sure, I think any time we're in anything it's visibility, but I would rather we aren't connected to that sort of thing

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:28 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

You? The perpetual perpetrator of skimpies and flimsies threading? I shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you!

So how "Monday" is today? I'm still waiting for my first drink of anything that doesn't pee on me first. Pretty sure you'll find me at the Pub after work...

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:31 AM

Update: Nothing much. Arraignment. Trial will be on December 18th. The tribal prosecuter seemed to be in a bit of distress when the issue of evidence was brought up. Time will tell on the trial.

I thought "PUSF" was Pent Up Sexual Frustration.
(Raises hand)
Line starts here folks.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:33 AM

Ok that's an unusual response. May mean they've either mis-laid evidence or have some sort of flaw they aren't looking to expose...hmmm good luck though

PUSF- I think that is what it means and since you've recently become re-virginated....I do think you get the to go to the front of the line

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:48 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Yeah Kelkhil mentioned what he claimed it meant...hmph!

As far as the line goes, NVG, we're all expecting you to be at the end now, not the beginning!

All this good advice flying around here.

Heard Bob Seger's "We've Got Tonight" this weekend and thought of you.

I know it's late, I know you're weary
I know your plans don't include me
Still here we are, both of us lonely
Longing for shelter from all that we see
Why should we worry, no one will care girl
Look at the stars so far away
We've got tonight, who needs tomorrow
We've got tonight babe, why don't you stay

Deep in my soul, I've been so lonely
All of my hopes, fading away
I've longed for love, like everyone else does
I know I'll keep searching, even after today
So there it is girl, I've said it all now
And here we are babe, what do you say
We've got tonight, who needs tomorrow
We've got tonight babe, why don't you stay

I know it's late, I know you're weary
I know your plans don't include me
Still here we are, both of us lonely
Both of us lonely

We've got tonight, who needs tomorrow
Let's make it last, let's find a way
Turn out the light, come take my hand now
We've got tonight babe, why don't you stay
O-o-oh, why don't you stay

NVG
Where the hell --
JQ
Look. Look where I'm pointing.
He does, looks at GND's place.
JQ (cont'd)
Okay. Now it's real simple.
ANGLE: NVG's POV: A tangle mess of sigals. Real simple.

EDIT: NVG is singing to GND, not me to him. Just want to keep it "straight" here.

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:51 AM

oooh that may be even better than a brick Jonny:)
I was about to resort to helping GND drug him and then letting her make her own choices about what to do with his handsome, muscular, unconscious form...'course that would be very wrong

HUG NV you know wew just want you to be happy:)
oh and on a side note you should check this out
http://www.joey-allen.com/

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

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Monday, November 13, 2006 11:56 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
oooh that may be even better than a brick Jonny:)
I was about to resort to helping GND drug him and then letting her make her own choices about what to do with his handsome, muscular, unconscious form...'course that would be very wrong
HUG NV you know wew just want you to be happy:)
oh and on a side note you should check this out
http://www.joey-allen.com/

"A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort."- Albright

Girl after my own heart, MsG. I'm thinking Peyote would be the only thing appropriate in this case, though. Not unconscious, alteredconsciousness. Raised awareness, and vision quest and the whole nine yards. I'ma thinkin'.

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Monday, November 13, 2006 12:06 PM

Very interesting. So much for using my name in the possible man-whoring endeavors.

And, by the way. Drugs are bad.

Thanks JQ for the song. Chances are it'll pop up this evening at some strange moment. In which case I'll have to laugh it off and explain. What an ice breaker.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 12:09 PM

ASORTAFAIRYTALE

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Originally posted by msg:

Ok my nuttiness aside...Let's ponder this what do the contents of your home library say about you??

Mine says I am obsessed with murder, violence, and crime.

Hmmm...well I definitely have at least one shelf of books in every room of my house. It's not just me, but my whole family that are crazy readers. And also the fact that I never go to public libraries helps too. Me in a bookstore is never good...I'll want to buy practically the whole store, and it's very hard to narrow that down to two books.

And then I always end up with more than I actually need at one time too. Right now I have at least five in my "to read" pile. Mostly my books are classics and fantasies, but they do vary a bit....not sure what that would say about me though.

Quote:

And...it has been raining since Saturday night here in MD. No fun, and makes for a depressing Monday morning.

Yep, I've been getting the rain here too, but rather than it making me depressed, it kinda makes me happy. I don't know why, but I never get sad about rain like most people...

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Love keeps her in the air when she outta fall down, tells you she's hurting before she keels. Makes her a home.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 12:11 PM

MAZAEN

Is this what male and female imponderables is about? The male and female imponderables seems like a really interesting thread. I've read the thread a few times. The content of this thread includes a lot of abstact thoughts and unusual topics like horror books. This thread also seems to be a place where intelligent people write articulately.

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Monday, November 13, 2006 12:25 PM

WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN

We ponder just about anything but mostly male/female stuff. I started a new thread since this one is getting so long. Post on it and name a topic that you are pondering at the moment. It just goes on from there.

"Well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle." http://whimsicalnbrainpan.blogspot.com/

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Monday, November 13, 2006 12:30 PM