Male and Female Imponderables - Learning to Fly by magdalena

Hey, Firsties! Yeah! My first Firsties. I will do the firsties dance.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:07 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Yay my Darling Kaylee-clone!

(...sometimes I think we should just have a Zim & Gir emote off thread...)

Nico you posted this at the end of the last thread:

Quote:

I'm trying to keep myself safe, but these scrub fires keep igniting.

Today's useless trivia: When exposed to a heat source (flames, glowing coals etc), the standard bushfire-fighting foam (that gets added to the water we spray on the fires), releases a sickly-sweet smell.

I am pleased to hear it - or else you would only have nasty smokey smells to asail your nostrils... I would prefer my little aussie brother was assailed by sickly sweetness than nasty smokiness any day!!

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:14 AM

NICODEMUS

Thx for posting that Magda. Goes to show just how slow my comp is tonight if the old thread doesn't finish loading until long after a new thread's been made.

A Zim and GIR emote-off thread? I can guess who'd win that one.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:15 AM

Nico, that sounds yucky and icky - the smoke and sickly sweet together.

I have a thought to ponder. Random acts of kindness. Have you ever done something extra special for someone without being asked and/or has anyone done something totally unexpected that you really liked?

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:26 AM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Oh yes! That is one of my joys in life actually VerseExplorer... I was walking down the road and saw a parking meter click over to expired as I passed it - so I popped a coin in there to give them another half an hour!

and went about my business with a spring in my step! I also do things like give people change in the supermarked queue if they are short by a few cents, or I once purchased a program at a gentleman's daughter's dance concert when he realised he didn't have his wallet on him... someone I didn't know - but I feel like that is more to my advantage than his... I just get such a kick out of doing something totally unexpected for someone!

If I was as rich as Bill Gates I'd probably spend my life sending anonymous gifts to people all over the place... It would be the best fun in the world!!

Nico

I feel your pain Honey!

Edit: speaking of which my Father has just returned and wants to use his computer - I will try to pop back later, but if I can't

for my qing ren *sigh* I am still weak at the knees you know Tristan!

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:41 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

Good morning to you ,Nico ,Magda ,ANd VE
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I hope you keep staying safe Nico.

VE , I sense A reding coming your way in a day or 2 :smiile:

Magda , what can I say ? We always seem to miss each other by minutes !

Bryce
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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:56 AM

Magda, we are so similar. If someone behind me in a checkout lane only has a few things, I let them go before me. It's funny when they appear shocked that someone if doing them a favor. I have given out numerous box set of Firefly to family members and friends. I love sharing the 'Verse. I can't resist smiling and saying "Hi" to strangers. It brightens my day.

The best act of kindness that I remember receiving right now is when a teacher friend came into my classroom and said "I can see you look like you're having a rough day. I'll take your class during my planning time." WOW, it was what I needed, and I didn't have to ask for help.

LA, speaking of wonderful things. I am looking forward to getting your e-mail in a couple of days. Take care of yourself first.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:59 AM

I need to go to sleep. I'll see you all later. Have a great day.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 2:04 AM

JAMESTHEDARK

I do little things like that from time to time. And yes, people do seem altogether too suprised by it. I once gave ten bucks to a homeless guy, just because it was cold out.

And on a less pleasant note, my ears are infected again. That makes three times this year. I need to trade in these ears for a less defective model. It's no bloody wonder I'm so close to deaf, nowadays.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 2:23 AM

LITTLEALBATROSS29

James - that was sweet ,giving the homeless guy money !

Sorry that you have the ear infection.I hope you get better soon.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 3:34 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

When I hear this song, I think of you.

For Magda: (VerseExplorer, too, but your screen name is too long to make work...although her real screen name is Magdalena, so I guess we could sing "VE" or "VX", depending on who's singing...well you get the idea. Love your nails btw...)

Who's peekin' out from under a stairway
Calling a name that's lighter than air
Who's bending down to give me a rainbow
Everyone knows it's Magda

Who's tripping down the streets of the city
Smilin' at everybody she sees
Who's reachin' out to capture a moment
Everyone knows it's Magda

And Magda has stor-my eyes
That flash at the sound of lies
And Magda has wings to fly
Above the clouds (above the clouds)
Above the clouds (above the clouds)

[Flute]

And Magda has stor-my eyes
That flash at the sound of lies
And Magda has wings to fly
Above the clouds (above the clouds)
Above the clouds (above the clouds)

Who's tripping down the streets of the city
Smilin' at everybody she sees
Who's reachin' out to capture a moment
Everyone knows it's Magda
[Repeat And fade]

THE ASSOCIATION - "Windy" (Ruthann Friedman)

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 3:56 AM

Morning, all!
I have a meeting first thing this morning, so I'll be gone for about an hour...but I shall return!

Qing ren, I am glad I was able to do that!

Nico, stay safe.

Good morning, VE, LA29, James (sorry about the ears!), JQ!

See you all in a bit.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 5:08 AM

HUGS James ( being careful of his ears) poor sweety

Magda HUGS and loves big sis

Verse- oh that's the best thing ever. Someone taking your class for no reason.

Ok I won't be back for 5 hours I have to go to yet another in the ongoing training to train me to give a test (for which the district already acknowledges I am fully trained)I have been giving for 3 years. Their reasoning is just to be on the safe side ...argh anyway see you in 5 hours:)

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 5:29 AM

ZEEK

Can't say I'm a very big random acts of kindness person. I'm far too much of a learn to deal with your own problems/consiquences of your actions person. I guess one of my pet peeves is people who seem to get through life by being coddled all the time or who seem to just believe everything should be handed to them on a silver platter. So, if I see someone forget their wallet I would most likely want to stick it to them that they should be more attentive next time.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 5:41 AM

HELL'S KITTEN

Okay! My first ponderance...ponder...uh...pondery thing, in a few parts:

First, why do co-workers think it's a good idea to engage in "romantic" relationships with one another? I guess I can understand it if it's a big company and they work in completely different / separate departments.... But when it's someone you often work with and often times has to give you direction...? How does that seem like a good idea?

Second, why do some guys (read: a good number that I've encountered) want to be your friend only as long as they think there's a chance for sex?

Third, which is built upon the first two, how do I let a co-worker know that there is absolutely no chance whatsoever of having any kind of outside-of-work non-co-worker relationship with me?

I'm very stupid when it comes to subtlety, so I think this "crush" has been going on for a looooong time, and only recently have I figured it out (with the help of a friend pointing out the obvious to me). Since I've gotten this new perspective, I've been... kinda... distant, and am very aware that I'm treating him differently. I just naturally want to discourage any kind of romantic notions before he develops them more and I have to crush his soul.

Men confound me some. Help? Advice?
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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:07 AM

HK, I may not be the best one to answer this...I am a firm believer that men and women can be friends without the spectre of sex hanging around. As far as co-worker attractions/relationships, I see that as laziness on the part of the people involved.

Ok, maybe not always, because there may be the chance that they were meant to be together, but still...
There is an old saying my stepfather taught me; Don't get your sex and paycheck at the same place. I have tried to live by that, and so far it has worked out quite well. Considering the places I have worked, that is not saying a lot, though.
Now, knowing what I know of you so far (granted, it's only your online persona), I do not think you would have any problem telling someone that you are not interested in a romantic tryst. You can get quite poetic in your language, so it should leave no doubt in the air.

Other than being completely out of order, I hope that helps a little bit.
Don't feel bad. Y'all women-folk confound us men all the time. It's nice to hear the opposite is true, too.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:07 AM

ZEEK

1.) I find it easy enough to start feeling closer to people you see all the time. I mean I sorta view my co-workers as friends until I realize I know next to nothing about them outside of work. None of them are my age really. So, that may be all that is keeping me from developing romantic feelingses.

2.) Those guys aren't your friend. They're just being friendly because they believe it's a good way to get a shot at having sex with you. It's not that guys can't be friends without thinking about sex. It's that guys who are only thinking about sex think being a friendly might get them a foot in the door.

3.) Can't help you too much with this one. Aside from flat out rejection, some guys are capable of reading any little sign of interest as meaning the girl has feelings. You can avoid him like the plague, but eventually you'll still probably do something to keep him thinking he has a shot. The real problem is that it sounds like he isn't acting on this crush much. You can't really reject a guy if he never actually makes a move. Only other thing you can do is talk to him a lot about other guys you're interested in. It's a subtle hint that you're not even considering him in that category.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:11 AM

CHRISMOORHEAD

Hell's Kitten-

1) Lack of social environment outside of work to find someone else. People are so desperate to hook up these days, and if they don't have an outlet outside of work, or they're very unsuccessful outside of work, then eventually it will manifest there due to lack of choices.

If neither of those situation applies, then it's probably because they're stupid and haven't thought through the negative consequences, or they're looking for sex and really don't care about the negative consequences.

2) That's just another way of asking "Why do most guys just want sex?", irregardless of bring friends with you. The being friends part is just a way some (and probably less experienced) guys figure that they can get close to you in order to make the jump from friend to lover. Now as to why guys just want sex: biology, and because women only say no with words. The culture of womanhood in America is one of skimpy outfits, bathing suits, and general aesthetics. HK, you're a model, right? How could you possibly wonder why men seek you out for sex? The very vocation of modeling is making yourself more physically appealing, and if you're going through the effort to be appealing, then on a primal level of the mind, you're just attracting as many mates as possible. Then you wonder why they show up wanting sex?

Even if you weren't a model, that's the standard set by other women who are. Psychologically speaking, men have Maxim, Playboy, Stuff, and every other shitheaded "men's" magazine shoved in their face on a daily basis. The women in those things set an unfortunate precedence for the rest of their gender, no matter how much they think they're "empowering" themselves by doing it. I've talked in great length about this before.

3)Clothesline him. No wait, he might think you're being playful. Just go ahead and crush him. Be blunt, even harsh if you have to, just don't make it public.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:15 AM

Hi Zeek!

YOUDON'TLIKETARA??? WHODOESN'TLIKETARA!!! HOWDAREYOUCHEERWHENSHEDIEDANDNOTLIKETARA!!!!

*calms down* Sorry. Reflex. Tara was one of my favourite Buffy characters. You'd think I'd be used to people not liking the characters I like considering my favourite character wound up being Dawn.

Kindness to strangers - it gives me a happy. And it can be so simple to do! I work right next to a massive shopping centre. If you spend more than €30 at Tesco they give you two hours free parking. I don't drive, but when they ask me if I want the parking ticket I always say yes and then give it to the most harrassed or unhappiest looking person I see walking out of the car park. It always cheers them right up, and that gives me a big happy.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:16 AM

MAVOURNEEN

Morning...well, almost Afternoon, Everyone.

Random acts of Kindness? A Wonderful thing, Especially when anonymous. Like Magda's putting money in the meter for someone. I've done that, too.
I leave coupons I'll never use in the grocery store next to that item. I still get a slew of diaper coupons in the mail, or when I go through the checkout...though tidbit has been potty trained for over 2 years. I leave them next to the diapers, so someone will have a moment of happiness saving $1 or $2 on painfully expensive diapers.
Random acts aren't coddling at all. It is knowing someone out there who doesn't know you cared enough to pass along a kindness. Wouldn't this world be a better place if someone had paid Osama's parking meter?

As to work place romances...I have yet to see one work out.
I think people see co-workers romantically since we spend so much darned time at work! If you are lucky enough to have any energy left after work and you go out for the evening it can be tough to make that connection. Most just stay home and eat cheetos while watching "Heroes." - Too tired for much else.
If you have a chance to mention that "you don't ever date people that you work with" during a conversation with in earshot of the man in question, that may be an easier way to get out of it. Even if you need to manufacture a conversation between yourself and your friend who clued you in, do so. It's an easier let down for him. But, don't treat him any differently. I would be kind and friendly but certainly no different than you would treat another man in your office who doesn't have feelings for you.
Mav's 2 cents...Good Luck.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:24 AM

Hey Hell's Kitten! Love the new avatar

1) I don't know. I've seen quite a few people do it though. Sometimes it's actually worked out okay, although that's only been when they worked in different departments in the same company. Me, I wouldn't think any guy would want to see me at work *and* at home, and I'd want some time away from him too. No matter how truly, madly, deeply in love you are, 24/7 is going to get pretty tiresome pretty quickly!

If it's *anyone* who has to give you direction then my immediate reaction is no. No no and more no. There is no good there.

2) I guess I'm lucky in that I've never come accross that. Most of the guys I know are attatched to someone else anyway, but I'm pally with quite a few who are single and who don't expect that from me. Of course they all know I'm slower to sleep with a guy than most, so maybe that helps.

3) Just be straight with him, don't send mixed signals (accepting dates, "business" lunches with just the two of you where he starts talking about personal stuff, that kind of thing) and repeat as often as necessary. That usually does the trick.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:39 AM

ZEEK

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Hi Zeek!

YOUDON'TLIKETARA??? WHODOESN'TLIKETARA!!! HOWDAREYOUCHEERWHENSHEDIEDANDNOTLIKETARA!!!!

*calms down* Sorry. Reflex. Tara was one of my favourite Buffy characters. You'd think I'd be used to people not liking the characters I like considering my favourite character wound up being Dawn.

I already explained somewhat, but come on. When she shows up she's a stuttering, shy loser. That's not gonna get me to like the character. I don't find her at all attractive. It adds the whole lesbian aspect to the show. Which while not really annoying, it just seems to draw too much focus in today's society. That was all her character ever did too. She showed up to turn Willow gay and then sit around in the background from then on. That's just dumb IMO.

Dawn is a far better character. During season 7 I was really hoping they'd maker her a slayer and give her a series all her own. I mean there has to be some cool stuff to explore with the whole being a key thing. I doubt you can really kill a god. So, Glory could always come back and give her hell. She just had places to go with her character and Tara never did.

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Random acts aren't coddling at all. It is knowing someone out there who doesn't know you cared enough to pass along a kindness. Wouldn't this world be a better place if someone had paid Osama's parking meter?

I hear that's illegal btw. So, you should be more careful in the future about your acts of kindness

I've only ever gotten one parking ticket and I got it knowing full well I wasn't supposed to park where I did. I was taking a calculated risk and I think it worked out plenty well. I got one ticket for parking in a garage I wasn't supposed to park in once a week for a full semester. I happily paid it and went on my merry way parking there the very next week. If someone had put a parking permit in my window randomly I think I'd be more scared and confused than happy. Bah I just don't see myself changing my stance on that issue I guess.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 6:52 AM

Ah. See I loved Tara because she reminded me a lot of myself. I was horrifically shy in school and didn't really start to make friends until my later college years.

As for Tara showing up just to turn Willow gay, the main reason she was there was to prove how dangerous Willow's approach to magic was becoming. Tara was the counterpoint, the sensible one, the one who truly respected magic and realised how many problems it could cause. As opposed to Willow who was flashy, cast first and asked quesions later and started fixing things to her own liking.

I didn't find the lesbian thing annoying. There had been the occasional hint in earlier seasons that Willow might not be as straight as she thought she was, and I did think Willow and Tara made a very cute couple. They wound up being my favourite pairing on the show, although Xander and Anya were a very close second!

I'd really hoped there'd be a new Dawn season too! Actually, I'm hoping to write Dawn fanfic, but I'm hanging on for the season 8 comic, since she features in it.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:00 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

afternoon Imponderables.

Got to work late, just got caught up here and with other thread, so here is a longish post.

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Originally posted by Tristan:
MSG...does there have to be a reason stated when asking someone out? Mine are usually along the lines of "I am captivated by you, under the spell of your beauty...the sparkle in your eyes and the way your lips gently curve when you smile upon the world strike deep into my heart. I desire to be near you, to hear you speak, see you laugh, breathe the same air as you...I throw myself at your feet as a slave to desire and longing". I can tell you from experience that actually saying this outloud has caused me no great deal of lost dates.

Jehsus, I am glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read this. It brought a little (ok, big) laugh to my otherwise dark view of life right now. Can't wait to hear that kind of stuff in person in 286 days over a few (or many) cold ones

Quote:
Originally posted by RMMC:
I've found a way to make myself feel warmer. Convert the outside temperature to degrees Kelvin. Tonight it'll be a balmy 266.483 degrees.

That's funny, because I do just the opposite. I convert the temps to C to make it seem cooler, having grown up thinking in F and only really seriously thinking about C once I hit physics.

MSG, sucks about the training, I know that pain. Good luck with it.

random act of kindness - I used to do them from time to time, and still do every now and again, like reaching things on high shelves for the tiny people of the world

. Conversely, I have recently been performing random acts of assholeishness, probably due to the stuff going on in my life right now.

workplace relationship - Dumb, dumb, dumb. Firstly, I agree with DTH about seeing someone 24/7 and it getting annoying/trying long before it should. Also, if anything ever goes sour with it whatsoever, you still have to see that person the next day and all of the following days at work, which could get bad. As for guys wanting to make friends to increase the chance of sex, well, some people will do almost anything with that. I'm not saying there aren't plenty of female friends it would be fun to get it on with, but that's not what the friendships are based on. Thirdly, as far as letting him know it isn't going to happen, you might just want to be blunt about it. Most guys (myself included) don't seem to be able to get subtle hints, and personally I would prefer it (were it me) to have a straight out honest answer.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:11 AM

Morning, RIMG! Well, afternoon by now...welcome just the same!
Glad the "reason" gave you a laugh.

Sometimes it does work, though...and when it does, wow.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 8:52 AM

HELL'S KITTEN

I can understand what people are saying about the idea that co-workers see so much of each other, so it's not surprising that these things happen. But it is just absolutely foreign to me to even consider a co-worker as anything other than a fellow employee. To voluntarily set yourself up for unnecessary drama and strife is beyond me, not to mention that your other co-workers are always dragged into it....

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HK, you're a model, right? How could you possibly wonder why men seek you out for sex? The very vocation of modeling is making yourself more physically appealing, and if you're going through the effort to be appealing, then on a primal level of the mind, you're just attracting as many mates as possible. Then you wonder why they show up wanting sex?

HA! NO! NOT in the least. So very, very, very far from a model.

I'm a biomedical engineer. Basically, that means I'm a Mad Scientist Nerd in Shit-Kicker Boots. I have never worn skimpy anything at work, as The Company has a dress code and I Have Modesty (in public). So, yeah, I honestly don't see any "sex appeal due to appearance" thing going on at work. Could be because I just don't think of it.

As to your suggestion in #3, you are very wise and I will probably take your advice. Or maybe I'll wish for that meteor.

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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
But, don't treat him any differently. I would be kind and friendly but certainly no different than you would treat another man in your office who doesn't have feelings for you.

Ah! But that's the problem! I am virtually incapable of treating people differently, because I don't see any sense to it. So I try to be friendly, personable, and reasonably non-threatening to everyone at work.

SO, if my normal state elicits this response, perhaps my unnatural state (distant, cold) would foster the opposite response. (Can you tell I'm a science nerd?) That's my line of thought, anyway, even though I don't like the idea of having to behave unnaturally in order to avoid people developing an attraction.

Following that line of thought, if I continue to act towards him like I act towards everyone, am I not perpetuating his wrong interpretation of my behaviour? Damned if I do, damned if I don't?

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Hey Hell's Kitten! Love the new avatar

Thanks!

DTH's #1) Yeah, seeing someone all the time, everywhere you go, isn't always a good thing. This isn't someone who would give me direction, this is someone I give direction to, although he is not my direct report. I may be a little paranoid that if I bluntly deny him, he'll stop performing his workplace duties the way he previously has. It's probably not right for me to be suspiscious of him like that, but I've seen it happen before.

DTH's #3) Be straight with him - I guess the real root of the problem is that I don't like being put into this situation in the first place while I'm in my work environment. I shouldn't have to feel like I need to fend off potential suitors while earning my paycheck.

He hasn't actually asked me out, but he nearly did and I was able to shoot him down without him having to ask. Although, he has asked me out to lunch on occassion... which I thought, at the time, was just a co-worker thing that people at my company do... hmmmm.

ANYways, I'm reluctant to bluntly tell him that I'm not interested, because I don't know that I have any objective evidence that he is actually interested, I just have that girly-feeling that he is. Ya know? So, if I say "Hey, there is absolutely no chance of you and me hooking up," not only do I look like an ass if I'm wrong, but I also come across as way too arrogant and in to myself. Heh. So I'm being stand-offish.

Bah. Running away is looking like the best solution.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 9:43 AM

CMH- OMG I laughed so hard when I read #3 that I spilled diet coke all over my keyboard and all my students are now looking at me funny. You are my god!! Ok now I just have to check...you're not by chance a 36 year old Navy SEAL who is currently somewhere he can't, say doing something he can't talk, about are you??? Then are you just channeling him? LOL You sound just like my beloved best friend Chris. That is so an answer he would have given. Actually large portions of your answer to #2 also sound like him. I don't mean he thinks women should wear potatos sacks just, like you, he thinks we should be aware of the image we project and be prepared to deal with it. I know how I dress sometimes attracts attention and I know how to deal with that.

Hell's Kitten- bet you're one of a very few women and probably the only cute one...I suggest developing a death stare when guys make suggestive comments or try to befriend you in suspicious ways ( like you can tell they're just trying for an in) Some guys may genuinely be interested in being friends so make sure you can tell the difference. As for the "crush". If you absolutely have to stop it just sit where he can hear you and tell a friend you'd NEVER date a guy where you worked. That should do it. As long as he's not pestering you though leave it be. Maybe he just enjoys work flirting and day dreaming and doesn't plan to take it very far. You could be the only social skills practice he gets in a day.

Sorry for the overly verbal thing, but I've been caged in a lame and useless training for hours unable to talk....argh!!!!*(&)^^$*&#@$%^&*

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:20 AM

Oh sure you post like terrifying space monkeys while I'm gone, but the second I get back you go all silent:)

Just for that

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:27 AM

MAVOURNEEN

ok, you made me laugh. I love the gangsta kitty.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:41 AM

Then you'll love this

and just for you dog lovers

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:48 AM

MAVOURNEEN

Don't think I'm gettin' outta my car to make a phonecall...

Time for me to fly. Huswifery awaits! Have a better rest of the day, msg.
To everyone - see you tomorrow.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 10:50 AM

Bye Mavoureen have a great day...and

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:05 AM

Hello folks. I haven't posted in quite a while and I fell a bit behind but I'm back again.

I'm not going to comment on the relationships in the workplace because that seemed to have been covered and I'm at no position to discuss relationships as it is so I'll regard to random acts of kindness instead.

I always try to treat people with respect and courteously but some are just too rude and self-centered to acknowledge when you're doing something nice for them and not wanting something in return. Holding the door for the person behind me when entering a store (which doesn't have an automatic door), letting someone go ahead of me in the checkout line and other little things not only make me feel better but I can see that those I do things for feel better about them too.

It's sad that in today's society you can't count on people to be considerate or thoughtful without them expecting something in return. Also it seems you can't offer to help without the person thinking you're planning to attack them or something. Folks are self-conscious for their own protection and any little deed you offer to do for them, no matter how innocent, they may think you're after something, not just doing it for the sake of being nice or courteous. It's a ruttin' shame our society has come to this but I guess that's just how things are.

The most recent act of kindness I received was having a birthday thread started on here back in September. It was completely unexpected but very appreciated and really made my birthday more enjoyable. I know there's kindness out there in the world, and we just have to look for it. I guess now we can learn to appreciate it more when we receive it since it's not entirely as common.

Okay, I think I'm rambling a bit so I'll end this for now.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 11:11 AM

Hey McQ HUGS good to see you again.

Oh and I have this for our beloved jester

oh and I had to put this one up for Nico

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:01 PM

I always love the funny photos...thank you, MSG!

McQ! Welcome back!

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:45 PM

MSG - Thanks for the pic. That's hi-larious and cute at the same time!!

Tristan - thanks for the welcome back. Good to be among the imponderables again.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:54 PM

We missed our favourite jester!

*hugs*

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 12:58 PM

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We missed our favourite jester! *hugs*

Awwww

It's nice to be missed - but even better to be back!

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:03 PM

Yup, we missed you so much I'm not even going to make that awful joke about having your picture on the dartboard!

Good to have you back with us

I love the way the ponder threads hop and buzz with posts when everyone's here!

On that note... have to leave!

It's getting pretty late here and I still have to get home.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:08 PM

The dart board, eh? Is that like an upgrade or a downgrade from the "most wanted" board? Hmm...now there's a ponderable for you!

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:14 PM

A dartboard! You know, those round boards you throw darts at! It's a sport! ...of sorts...

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:17 PM

Yup, I know what you mean - but is having my pic on there and upgrade or a downgrade from being on the "most wanted" (as in criminals - all law enforcement is out to get you as well as bounty hunters)? See, I can imagine either would be pretty bad. :) Not exactly lifting my spirits any but that's okay.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:20 PM

Awww, I'm sorry! I was just kidding!

See, this is why I didn't make the awful joke...

Okay, going now! Talk to you again soon.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:25 PM

Yep, I knew you were kidding - I am a jester afterall.

Take care and I'll see ya on here later - or whenever you post next - whichever comes first.

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 1:30 PM

RMMC

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I've found a way to make myself feel warmer. Convert the outside temperature to degrees Kelvin. Tonight it'll be a balmy 266.483 degrees.

That's funny, because I do just the opposite. I convert the temps to C to make it seem cooler, having grown up thinking in F and only really seriously thinking about C once I hit physics.

I save the conversion to Centigrade for summer. I'll be roasting and then just think to myself, 'it's only 35, get a grip!'

As it's very definitely winter here, Kelvin's the way to go.

I'd rather consider it 261 degrees K than -12 degrees C (or 10 degrees F for that matter).

Random Acts of Kindness I get a kick out of doing them. I once gave a hockey ticket away to someone on the street who looked like they needed a fun time and gave my intended dinner (sub sandwich) to a homeless person. For me, 'tis much more fun to give in this instance, than to receive.

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random act of kindness - I used to do them from time to time, and still do every now and again, like reaching things on high shelves for the tiny people of the world

On behalf of all us wee folks...thanks!

Why do they always put what I'm looking for on the frickin' top shelf, anyway? Sadistic stock persons.

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Conversely, I have recently been performing random acts of assholeishness, probably due to the stuff going on in my life right now.

Sorry to hear things are bad for ya right now.

Loads of good thoughts headed your way.

Work + Business Realtionships = hell on earth. Just say, "no."
1 I think I'm in the camp that thinks it's just a convience thing and always a Bad Idea.
2 there are several ways this goes. A A shortcut (he hopes) into the sack. B Some guys will only consider a sexual relationship with a woman they have built a friendship with as they actually want a long-term (permanent) relationship. C And some guys are just (like some women) flirts and they'll sometimes flirt more with someone they consider a friend with an unspoken agreement (they hope) that nobody really means anything by it. D And some guys just wanna be firends. Peroid.

I have several male friends in catagory D, a few in catagory C and currently none in B (they've all gotten married since having been in that catagory) and none in A. The guys in A tend to be self-centered id boys. (Buffy fans: think Parker.)

3 Since you've said he's not actually said anything to you, perhaps staging a conversation with your friend as has been suggested above is the way to go.

Well wishes to James for his ear. (Have you been to a specialist? If not, maybe you should.)

MGS--Love the piccys, especially the German shepherd.

Hugs to all!

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 3:06 PM

MAGDALENA

"No power in the 'verse can stop me!"

Hello Everyone!! I'm back! (but just for a little while while my Dad is at work... and I am not...)

JohnnyQ

I cannot believe how much I smiled and laughed at your song words - now, of course I have it stuck in my head, but my Kaylee-clone and I love it!!

Hello KC

Sorry I suddenly abandoned you last night (or yesterday morning your time)

Hell's Kitten

hello my arch-nemesis!! I cannot believe there is 'a guy' in love with you at work... honestly... I cannot believe it coz they are probably all in love with you!!

My own 10c worth - A) Everyone a person meets has the potential to be a friend, workmates are even more so in this category coz you spend so much time with them each day... any friend you have might have the potential to become a love-interest... this is pure and nothing to do with laziness! It also makes going to work a little bit nicer if you are hoping that 'someone' will walk by smelling of cologne or perfume... Something that does not happen in my line of work as the only men who are over the age of 8 in my workplace are happily married and I don't find them attractive - I do however count them as friends - which leads me to...

B) Yes - I tend to go with the friend are possible thing - though I am at times jaded and have found male friends who did actually want something more...

C) I am not the one to ask - I had a friend who kept hinting at his interest... I kept stating my disinterest in oblique ways! eg: He says "hey, so-and-so thought we make a really nice couple" *hint hint* ...and I say, "Oh that really annoys me - so-and-so knows we're just friends, why do people try to make out there's something more when there isn't???" *gettit???*

Since he never actually came out and asked me on a date I never felt comfortable saying I wasn't interested except in the above manner... He eventually got the hint and moved on... we're still friends too...

I am also totally clueless - I once found myself on a date which I thought was going to be a group of friends going out to dinner - the guy was really hurt when I told him I wasn't interested in more than friendship - seems he thought he was flirting with me and I thought he wasn't coz almost every other male in our circle of friends was more of a flirt than he was!

Mind you - he was the one who proposed on said 'first date' so I don't have anything to do with him anymore - his choice, but since I was a bit creeped out by the whole thing I didn't mind at all!!

Hello RMMG, MsG

(poor thing - your brain is all melty - I know!!) Tristan

*sigh*, and my wonderful Huggly McQ

I do miss you too sweetie!!

Oh hi DTH

I loved Tara too... at first I thought it was harsh that she 'stole' Willow away from my beloved Oz, but later I understood that Oz was not totally deserving of Willow (my favourite character in the show BTW) and that Tara was good for her - they were the only couple whom I really saw in love with one another and they were better people when they were together, they brought out the best in one another... that's what a true partnership/relationship should be IMO...

Anyway - if you read all of that you deserve a brownie!

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 3:09 PM

PENGUIN

Yummy....great brownie!

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Thursday, December 7, 2006 3:11 PM