Male and Female Imponderables - Bedbugs and Ballyhoo by Mavourneen

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
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Originally posted by msg:
Hell's Kitten- I think you're tempting whether you meant to be or not..

Aw, shucks.. I think you're tempting, too...
Oh! Wait! That's not what you meant! *snikker*

Are you sure?

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it's really the effect not the intent that's measured.

But the effect changes with each unique perspective. So how can I be at once tempting and not tempting (and anywhere in between)? That state of being defies reason and reality, unless I am Schrödinger's Kitten. Which, I suppose I could be. Nonetheless, I still assert that it is the one doing the perceiving who is also doing the tempting of one's self; allowing one's self to "feel" a certain way based on their interpretation (and extrapolation) of their perception. An object doing nothing but being perceived cannot actually take this action.
(By the way, this is what I sound like when I am tired and have a migrane. Hee hee.)

Two points here.

1. Steak is tempting to those that like steak whether the steak is trying to be tempting or not. How a steak is prepared furthermore has a direct effect on how tempting it is. Same with cheesecake so don't even go there...

2. I think we're pretty much all in agreement that you are tempting {always} and not tempting never {ever}. A few of probably think you fart cute.

Now as for being Schraedinger's kitten that just adds to the geek chic value. And I think you flipped the reasoning behind your action at a distance argument. Observing may cause a reaction, but an action does not necessarily require observation to occur.

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Originally posted by Penguin:
Great...now my head hurts!

Maybe you're Schraedinger's Penguin?

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:35 PM

PENGUIN

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:
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Originally posted by VerseExplorer:
HK, you've given Penguin a headache.
Aww... I'm sorry.

I didn't mean tooooooooo!

*hugs* That's ok...you're making me think to much!

The cure is more pictures of you and your "sisters"!

Schrödinger's Penguin...I like that!

Clowns to the left of me…

...Jokers to the right...

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:46 PM

HELL'S KITTEN

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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
Two points here.

I'll just have to disagree.
I have no further desire to induce headache.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:47 PM

HELL'S KITTEN

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Originally posted by Penguin:
The cure is more pictures of you and your "sisters"!

I'll start working on that right away.
Just for you.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:51 PM

PENGUIN

Clowns to the left of me…

...Jokers to the right...

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 3:59 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

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Originally posted by Penguin:

I could watch this forever, if I wasn't so hungry...

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:03 PM

TRISTAN

Evening, all. Been away for a spell...should be back tomorrow.

First, hello to Mangolo! Don't think I have seen you on an Imponderable thread before. Hope you stick around!

To everyone else, I give hugs and kisses and hope that the week is going good so far.

NVG, you are a natural leader...you will do well.

HK, JQ...y'all just crack me up.

Hell's Kitten, you may not deliberately enthrall those around you, but it does happen. My worship of you is of the artist and of all the wonderful sides of you that show through in your photos. (yeah, it's late and that sentence does not look "proper English" to me...) That may sound like crap or a load of b.s., but 'tis the truth. In the birthday thread, when you mentioned you had a "birthday picture", I was happy...but as the artist declared it inapropriate, I was left to imagine. You are just an awesome individual, and I am happy I know of your existence.

MSG...hehehe...catch the electical cord.

Qing ren!

Been a bit crazy around here, eh? Two-hundred and how-many??

Mavs, Zeek, Rugbug, JTD, Odds, DTH, VE, Penguin, Yinyang, Nico (hope you are still safe!), RIMG...oh, please don't let me have forgotten anyone...good night all, and I hope to be "back" tomorrow!

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:08 PM

VERSEEXPLORER

Nighty night, Tristan. Hope to see you pondering tomorrow.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:26 PM

*waves to everyone (Tristan, NVG, RIMG, MsG, Micrea, Oddsbodkins *squee!**hugs**ruffles hair*, JTD, Magda, HK, Mav, VeX, Penguin, JQ, Yinyang, *pauses to take a breath* and everyone else who I've already forgoten).

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Originally posted by Mangolo:
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Is Mavourneen too young to be a GRANDMOTHER???

Granted I live in rural Hawaii, but I have friends who became grandmothers the old fashion way -biologically- before they were 40. A good friend of ours had her last child the same year her eldest daughter had her first child. So, no.

Remember Grandmotherhood has all the bennies of parenthood (cute kids running around loving you) without out all the sleepless nights and other dreck.

From one local to another -- "Howzit brah, wea you wen grad from?"

Welcome to this corner of the 'verse. (Seriously, where on these collected rocks are you?)

Mav: I agree with Mangolo. What's scarier is that I can think of at least parent who did have that happen to them (student of mine gave birth while she was in 8th grade). I also have a friend who is my age who is actually a grand-uncle (his sister had a child while she was young, and the cycle repeated with the daughter). So yeah, it's even possible for you to be a great-grandmother before you're 60.

RIMG: Glad you liked them. It sounds like you need 'em. *plants another hugbomb trap for RIMG*

Okay, it's waaay after the end of school and I'm still here (just like on Friday...never did leave early then

)

*waves to everyone*

'neko

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:27 PM

oopsie...double posty goodness. *waves hands and intones* This is not the post you are looking for.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:13 PM

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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
*waves to everyone (Tristan, NVG, RIMG, MsG, Micrea, Oddsbodkins *squee!**hugs**ruffles hair*, JTD, Magda, HK, Mav, VeX, Penguin, JQ, Yinyang, *pauses to take a breath* and everyone else who I've already forgoten).

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Originally posted by Mangolo:
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Is Mavourneen too young to be a GRANDMOTHER???

Granted I live in rural Hawaii, but I have friends who became grandmothers the old fashion way -biologically- before they were 40. A good friend of ours had her last child the same year her eldest daughter had her first child. So, no.

Remember Grandmotherhood has all the bennies of parenthood (cute kids running around loving you) without out all the sleepless nights and other dreck.

From one local to another -- "Howzit brah, wea you wen grad from?" Welcome to this corner of the 'verse. (Seriously, where on these collected rocks are you?)

Mav: I agree with Mangolo. What's scarier is that I can think of at least parent who did have that happen to them (student of mine gave birth while she was in 8th grade). I also have a friend who is my age who is actually a grand-uncle (his sister had a child while she was young, and the cycle repeated with the daughter). So yeah, it's even possible for you to be a great-grandmother before you're 60.

RIMG: Glad you liked them. It sounds like you need 'em. *plants another hugbomb trap for RIMG*

Okay, it's waaay after the end of school and I'm still here (just like on Friday...never did leave early then )

*waves to everyone*

'neko

Big Island, Hilo side, Hamakua coast, you?

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:22 PM

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Originally posted by Mangolo:
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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
*waves to everyone (Tristan, NVG, RIMG, MsG, Micrea, Oddsbodkins *squee!**hugs**ruffles hair*, JTD, Magda, HK, Mav, VeX, Penguin, JQ, Yinyang, *pauses to take a breath* and everyone else who I've already forgoten).

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Originally posted by Mangolo:
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Is Mavourneen too young to be a GRANDMOTHER???

Granted I live in rural Hawaii, but I have friends who became grandmothers the old fashion way -biologically- before they were 40. A good friend of ours had her last child the same year her eldest daughter had her first child. So, no.

Remember Grandmotherhood has all the bennies of parenthood (cute kids running around loving you) without out all the sleepless nights and other dreck.

From one local to another -- "Howzit brah, wea you wen grad from?" Welcome to this corner of the 'verse. (Seriously, where on these collected rocks are you?)

Mav: I agree with Mangolo. What's scarier is that I can think of at least parent who did have that happen to them (student of mine gave birth while she was in 8th grade). I also have a friend who is my age who is actually a grand-uncle (his sister had a child while she was young, and the cycle repeated with the daughter). So yeah, it's even possible for you to be a great-grandmother before you're 60.

RIMG: Glad you liked them. It sounds like you need 'em. *plants another hugbomb trap for RIMG*

Okay, it's waaay after the end of school and I'm still here (just like on Friday...never did leave early then )

*waves to everyone*

'neko

Big Island, Hilo side, Hamakua coast, you?

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Born Honolulu, spent a while in Hilo, then moved back to Honolulu.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 7:22 PM

*sigh* I seem to be doing this a lot tonight.

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:16 PM

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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
Born Honolulu, spent a while in Hilo, then moved back to Honolulu.

When were you in Hilo and what did you do this side?

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Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Mangolo:
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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
Born Honolulu, spent a while in Hilo, then moved back to Honolulu.

When were you in Hilo and what did you do this side?

Living in Hilo? Early to mid-70's. Mainly spent it for "small kid time," so school mostly.

'neko

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by Mangolo:
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Originally posted by Dancingneko:
Born Honolulu, spent a while in Hilo, then moved back to Honolulu.

When were you in Hilo and what did you do this side?

Living in Hilo? Early to mid-70's. Mainly spent it for "small kid time," so school mostly.

'neko

I've been living on Hamakua for 15 years. Mostly working with the Hawaiian immersion folks developing Hawaiian language television and films. Before that I did a bunch of documentary and TV work on Kilauea until my wife found out what I was doing

She saw this clip of me and my days working out there were over:

She said "No father of my children is going to work on top of an active volcano!"

For the past few years I've been doing all kinds of film and TV work, but mostly focused on my interns and my own film.

Too much talk story?

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 1:57 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

mornin' Imponderables.

*wanders unawares into the hugbomb trap and trips it, becoming surrounded in Neko-hugs*

All in all, a good way to start the morning.

Have there been any ponderables in the last thread and a half or so, or am I dumb like a moose and missed them? I can't think of any good ones, just wanted to see if there were any out there.

Gotta do training today and tomorrow, 0800 - 1400, so I won't be around hardly at all. Y'all have a good day.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:03 AM

we'll miss you jimi bear HUGS

Tristan- yes the game goes nicely when paired with the second round lick the open wall socket:)

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 5:57 AM

ODDSBODSKINS

*learns*

HEEEEY ALL!

thank you rugbug ^^

sooo, not so much pondering going on then? anyone got any good ones?

going through a current 'works-over-and-oh-my-what-a-pretty-smile-that-was-and-just-how-a-glance-can-pick-up-your-day' thing, so some good pondering, or just bantering, would be leapt upon and siezed upon (so i DO hope there're people online

)

*has hair ruffled by neko*

heya hey, how's it going? xD

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:19 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

It does seem we've run aground when it comes to topics. I've been filling space with vain babblings to keep us afloat as have others. It would be good to have something solid to latch onto.

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:26 AM

TRISTAN

Morning, all!

MSG..."lick the light socket"...hehe...any of them fall for that?

Needing a ponder, eh? Hmm.
This may have been covered, but if so, it has been awhile.
How do you deal with pain and illness? Your own, I mean. Do you seek aid and pampering from others or do you crawl into a corner to lick your own wounds?

It's not much, but it might get us back to pondering...

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:33 AM

MAVOURNEEN

I was myself wondering if we should change the name of the thread from Imponderables to something like the Virtual Watercooler. That way, if someone has a ponder ( like NV did yesterday re: leadership) it can be posed...otherwise it is a place to post to check in and meet & greet.

Illness? I'm mixed. When I'm sick I generally want to be left alone. The sicker I am, the more likely I am to curl into a ball.
As I get older (no comments from the studio audience, JQ) I find I am getting to like being pampered a bit by my guys at home.
I guess it is so rare for them to see me really incapacitated that when it happens their concern is quite touching.

*I liked the lick the light socket game, too!

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:38 AM

ODDSBODSKINS

it's not something i think i could really comment on myself, i'd really reckon other people's views on it would probably be differant to mine.

my reckoning is that i'm inclined to mindless male pride and stoicism with the big stuff, but a bit of a sympathy-seeking-wuss when it comes to the trivial stuff.

last time i was really hurt was just before christmas at work, at the time it happened i did the 'manly' thing and dealt with the situation at hand, soon as that was done i kinda went to piece's and sat in a wee daze doing whatever anyone suggested

afterwards i was very much hating anyone making referance to it, and was not fond of the sympathy, but i think that's more because it was my beloved face that got mauled, and i didn't want to be reminded of it

with little scratches and bruises, ache's and pains and so on, i tend to want people to notice and be sympathetic, until they actually DO notice and be sympathetic, and then i wish they hadn't.

what can i say, i'm not very consistant.

like this morning, spent the whole day in a foul mood because my alarm clock screwed up, and the snooze button lasted an hour instead of 7 minute's, then all it took at the end of the day was a glance and a smile and i've been in a great mood since, really active sorta mood, went and started tracking down people i regret loosing touch with as soon as i got home.

takes the littlest things to make a differance ^^

i think i rambled...

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:50 AM

VERSEEXPLORER

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Originally posted by Mangolo:
I've been living on Hamakua for 15 years. Mostly working with the Hawaiian immersion folks developing Hawaiian language television and films. Before that I did a bunch of documentary and TV work on Kilauea until my wife found out what I was doing She saw this clip of me and my days working out there were over:

She said "No father of my children is going to work on top of an active volcano!" For the past few years I've been doing all kinds of film and TV work, but mostly focused on my interns and my own film. Too much talk story?

WOW, Mangolo, I understand why she said that. It make me wonder how many of us are risk takers. I know I like looking at the volcano from the comforts of my home. Does anybody look at the clip abd think - Boy, I'd like to be there standing with Mangolo.

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Tristan wrote,
How do you deal with pain and illness? Your own, I mean. Do you seek aid and pampering from others or do you crawl into a corner to lick your own wounds?

I always think that I'd like to be pampered, but when I get sick or hurt, I just want to go home and be by myself.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:55 AM

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Hey GrandMavourneen! Hey all!

Virtual Watercooler sounds like a really nice name for a thread. Makes me feel all friendly and chatty just thinking about it.

Plus everyone knows the raciest gossip is found at the watercooler

EDIT: I get very emotional when I'm sick, so I usually lock myself away in my room. That way I don't burst into tears in front of anyone else. I'm a bit of a recluse at times anyway.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:08 AM

MAVOURNEEN

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Hey GrandMavourneen!

o...m....g...

*puts her head in her hands and cries*

*sniff, sniff..but I'm glad you like Virtual Watercooler...sniff, sniff*

* continues bemoaning her old age *

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:18 AM

MIRCEA

Morning everybody.

How's everyone today?

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:22 AM

ooh virtual watercooler...but everyone knows this is the imponderables and I'd be afraid people would think it was new and not find us...I figure we ponder big things and little things ( like why a spider decided to get into my shower)

Anyway, my family's always been of the walk it off variety, plus I don't really have caretakers available so I pretty much take care of myself

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 7:38 AM

MIRCEA

Spiders are like cats, I think, MSG. They always know who doesn't want them around and then go find that person.

I've always had to look after myself, so I tend to go curl up in a corner and sleep when I'm sick or injured. If I can that is, most times lately its just a matter of pushing through it.

I think nighttime is dark so you can imagine your fears with less distraction.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:44 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by Mavourneen:
As I get older (no comments from the studio audience, JQ)

Whaa....?

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:46 AM

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"

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Originally posted by msg:
I figure we ponder big things and little things ( like why a spider decided to get into my shower)

Did one of my spy-der-bots "accidently" get out again?

Hi Mircea. I think I owe you one from earlier too.

And Welcome Mangolo! Anyone with Mango in their name is friend of mine!

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:51 AM

MAL4PREZ

Hello imponderabling people!

I have been much absent. Time to catch up! But first - does anyone have the little emoticon guy who's laughing so hard he's beating on the floor? I really need him for another post!

-mal4prez, showing up to ask a favor!

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:56 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

hey there Mangolo (welcome), MSG *hugs*, oddsbodskins, JQ

, Tristan

, mavs *hugs*, VE, DTH (there is going to be a sort of homage to you in my 76th backstory), Mircea, EDIT: MAL4PREZ !!!!! (here:

)

I usually withdraw even further into myself when in pain or ill. Working two jobs, I can usually not afford to let it slow me down (think about that the next time you go out to eat). As for mental/emotional pain, I tend to block everyone out and drown myself in it. Recently I have been better about talking it out instead of keeping it bottled up inside.

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Originally posted by VerseExplorer:
Does anybody look at the clip and think - Boy, I'd like to be there standing with Mangolo.

I haven't seen it yet, as the US gov't doesn't like YouTube, but I am pretty sure I would say that, as that is something I have yet to experience in life. If you die, what a way to go, eh? Burned alive by rock so hot it is liquid.

:evil engineer laugh:

Mavs - you ain't old, quit frettin yourself *offers to return the warming cuddles from the pub earlier as comfort*

A somewhat-continuance from a thread on the 76th forums (still relevant here though):

"But yeah, shooting clay pigeons, I think, yeah, go for that. Shooting clay pigeons, they’re f

ers! Come round your house, whiz through. They do nothing, they don't even eat flies! You know? Spiders eat flies, so they're all right, keep them, you know? Flies don't eat f

all, so kill 'em! And clay pigeons - everyone shoots them in the air. Wait 'til they land!"

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:29 AM

MAL4PREZ

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Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
hey there Mangolo (welcome), MSG *hugs*, oddsbodskins, JQ , Tristan , mavs *hugs*, VE, DTH (there is going to be a sort of homage to you in my 76th backstory), Mircea, EDIT: MAL4PREZ !!!!! (here: )

Thanks Jimi! Good to see you! (in the virtual sense, of course)

So what's going on on this thread? Hmm, scrolling back to see...

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:30 AM

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Originally posted by msg:
I figure we ponder big things and little things ( like why a spider decided to get into my shower)

Did one of my spy-der-bots "accidently" get out again?

Hi Mircea. I think I owe you one from earlier too.

And Welcome Mangolo! Anyone with Mango in their name is friend of mine!

"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"

Thanks for the warm welcome yall.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:34 AM

well it's always good to have a new ponderer Mangolo :)
Mal4Prez- oh it's so good to see you sweety. How are you? What's been happening HUGS and all

Spiders are evolutionarily stupid...if they had evolved to look like cute little bunnies or seals then no one would want them dead, but since they look like a cross between alien killing machines and some sort of devil they have to be eliminated

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 9:36 AM

TRISTAN

Mal4Prez...I am late on the uptake, but here:

Gorram busy day...sorry, all.

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