Watercooler of the Imponderables: Enforcing the mandate of Jonny! by nvghostrider

Had to start a new one folks.

Old one:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=28049

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:22 PM

And of course I take firsties to bump the new thread.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:22 PM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE

Omg, firsties?

Edit: Awww, just missed it!

So are we still talking about best and worst vacations?

Hmmm... I've had too many good vacations to be able to pick just one -- except maybe the one I got engaged on.

Hubby and I went to Walt Disney World in Florida (I know it's not for everyone, but we love WDW, and are pretty fond of Disneyland). I went to WDW every couple of years growing up, but hubby had never been, so our first day there, after we got settled in our hotel, I took him out to see the Grand Floridian hotel, which has been my favorite since I was little. They have a little wedding chapel on the beach overlooking the lake with Cinderella Castle in the distance. He had been planning on proposing at some point on the trip (and had worried that the ring would set off the metal detectors at the airport, lol), but he figured he wouldn't be able to beat that location, so he proposed there. We had the rest of the trip in the "oh my god we just got engaged" glow, so it was pretty awesome.

Worst vacation would probably have to be the weekend trip we took about six months before getting engaged. Before moving to Texas and meeting hubby, I had been involved in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronisms www.sca.org ) in northern California. Out there, the best SCA events are the "Kingdom" level events, with hundreds of people from all over the area camping out for a weekend, to fight, participate in bard circles, drink, etc. I told hubby about all of that to talk him into trying out the SCA in Texas. I finally convinced him to go, so we drove for several hours to a Kingdom level event, only to find out that in Texas, no one goes to Kingdom level events except those who are there to actually fight, and no one camps overnight (we were one of three tents). The event was so small that we couldn't avoid a couple of people we knew, and when we cut out after less than 24 hours, we got lost on the way home. It took quite a bit to convince him to try out the SCA when we moved to northern California a few years later, but I finally did convince him and we had a *much* better time that time around.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:40 PM

A question for any and all. I'm taking a strange approach to a possible relationship I figure never woulda been possible. Open and honest conversation about the actual connection. I don't think this has ever happened to me. And I really never hear of it from anyone. What really has me thinking strange is the thought of being old and in love. Some old couples still hold hands or kiss openly in front of other people. I find it reassuring (and damn cute).

So my question: What the hell is wrong with this picture?!?! I've gone from feeling like the conversation's changed from terms of war to a mission briefing. It seems like progress. Things are simpler and on a smaller scale. Just got a ton of strange questions that have been answered in strange ways lately.

ADD: (Girlish) AWWW. I love a good engagement story.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:47 PM

Well, home time, thread is dead, and I'm aching for a movie. See y'all later.

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 1:52 PM

PENGUIN

See ya later!

I've never been on a real vacation. I went to the Mount Rushmore when I was about 3, but that hardly counts!

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:39 PM

http://www.myspace.com/muddy_waters

Penguin you due man!!! Come to D*C with us:) HUGS

NV- ok so you are talking about the relationship and deciding how to make it work before you start it..I say that's smart and all:)
HUGS

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:42 PM

PENGUIN

I would love to...I'll have to see what my cashy money situation is...

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 8:44 PM

HOBBLEIT

Good morning,

so best and worst holidays.

Best: Paris, July 2004. 5 great days wandering around and I didn't get burnt once. Maybe cos it rained for 4 of the 5 days. Best day was the Tuesday when we went to Albert and looked around war cemeteries and memorials.

Worst: Ok, this wasn't a holiday but when was in my second year of sixth form I was forced to go on this educational trip to Hexham in which we stayed in an old army barracks which was cold, wet and smelled funny. I didn't learn anything in the entire weekend and I sprained my foot river-walking.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:05 AM

PENGUIN

Good morning imponderables!

Mother nature is a biatch! lol

On the 31st it was 85 degrees...this morning there's snow on the ground and they're expecting 1-3 inches!

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:16 AM

I feel for you Penguin. We are under a winter storm warning here. expecting 4-8 inches of snow to go with the 12 inches we got over last week!

you Old Man Winter!

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

Yea though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for I am Forsaken

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:38 AM

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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
A question for any and all. I'm taking a strange approach to a possible relationship I figure never woulda been possible. Open and honest conversation about the actual connection. I don't think this has ever happened to me. And I really never hear of it from anyone. What really has me thinking strange is the thought of being old and in love. Some old couples still hold hands or kiss openly in front of other people. I find it reassuring (and damn cute).

So my question: What the hell is wrong with this picture?!?! I've gone from feeling like the conversation's changed from terms of war to a mission briefing. It seems like progress. Things are simpler and on a smaller scale. Just got a ton of strange questions that have been answered in strange ways lately.

Morning, Penguin, Kel, anyone else lurking...(HK!)

There's nothing wrong with that pic, NV. You are getting older and wiser. Relationships based entirely on the physical are doomed. Doomed I tell you! There comes a point where you start relating to people on a much more individual, personal level. Embrace it, revel in it, and enjoy being honest and open, one on one. I treasure having someone I can really be honest with, still, after 16 years total together. Don't get me wrong, he still rocks my socks (If you are reading this, that was for you, honey!) but he is also my mate AND my closest confidante. He pisses me off? I tell him so. He revs me up? I tell him so. When I was younger I never could have been so open about my feelings with a man.
Welcome to your adult life, NV.

Rugbug (from last thread), I assumed you had logged off. Didn't think I was being ignored at all. Glad to hear you (probably) don't have a pony-beast. I was wondering...

MsG, I ended up browning the chicken in rosemary, sage & Italian spices with onions, threw in spiced stewed tomatoes, and served it over rice. A fav dish and old standby at my house. Your baste does sound good. (Filed away for future reference.)

Jonny, You are such a boy. Such a boy from Michigan who doesn't go to the beach often. Such a boy from Michigan whoe doesn't got to the beach often or paint his toenails. You do not wear toenail polish to the beach. The sand's abrasive action just scrubs the polish from the toes.

You are correct,however. A chicken thigh does not a chicken make. Point taken.

I only have internet access this AM, the program we use to process orders is having a tantrum and out IT peeps don't get in until 9AM. Soooo sad I can't work!

More coffee, then off to some of the other sites I haunt. Back soon.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 3:46 AM

TINADOLL

Mornin all!

I am already having problems with the biggest case we have. Poor lady been deposed twice and they want her deposed again-Cept they wanted it adjurned again. Flipping out all around

...And i missed Firsties again. Oh darn!

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:03 AM

Oh the annoyance of a deposition...HUGS Tina:)

Mav- mmmm that sounds good too. I've filed it away as well

Morning all:) my eyes feel all gritty from yesterday's Lemony Snicket moment. I went to tutor and they had an emergency and I ended up staying an extra hour and a half to babysit.By that point it was 7:40 pm and I then had to rush to the store and buy all the ingredients to make pasta salad for 80 kids. So then I get home and spend over an hour and a half chopping veg and cooking pasta and such. By the time I got dinner it was after 9...so I'm sort of grumpy ( MisterG would say really grumpy as I've grouched at him several times) OK rant over

OK so now advice question. My friend Carol is dating this guy and she says he's great. They have a ton in common and she really enjoys his company. It's getting serious, but here's the problem. She says she doesn't feel a spark. SO she wants to know if she should end this relationship with this great guy who cares about her and treats her really well and who she really likes and enjoys just because there's no spark...What do you all think???

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:21 AM

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Originally posted by msg:
OK so now advice question. My friend Carol is dating this guy and she says he's great. They have a ton in common and she really enjoys his company. It's getting serious, but here's the problem. She says she doesn't feel a spark. SO she wants to know if she should end this relationship with this great guy who cares about her and treats her really well and who she really likes and enjoys just because there's no spark...What do you all think???

Pasta salad for 80? I'd say you are seriously off your nut, woman!

As for your friend, I would say do NOT end the relationship over lack of sparkage. I know several people who have terrific marriages who really had to stick it out to become seriously attracted to the other person. Sparks are great. But lack of sparks wouldn't put me off on someone I had so much in common with, enjoy, etc. A great guy is hard to find.
Once a fire burns out, it's hard to rekindle. A fire that hasn't started has tremendous potential energy. (Lao-Tse, I think...)

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:37 AM

Yeah that's what I said:)

Ok feeling a need to change my sig...brb

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:44 AM

You're changing your sig because of my post, aren't you.

*sigh* I knew I'd make people all uncomfortable. I'm an evil hippie! I'm going to the special hell! *sob*

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:46 AM

Join me, Linda...Join me and be EVIL!!!!

*rubs hands together; she loves it when a plan comes together*

EDIT: Is the Gaelic word for evil olc? My dictionary say so...but i don't believe everything I read...Cause I'm E-V-I-L!
(I'm a little punchy today, sorry for the evil-ness...)

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:56 AM

No, you're evi - not evil! Evi! It's totally different!

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:58 AM

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
No, you're evi - not evil! Evi! It's totally different!

Oh. My Bad. Can't read today.

*takes DTH by the hand and they skip through a meadow of blossoms together, totally un-evi.*

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:59 AM

ZEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
OK so now advice question. My friend Carol is dating this guy and she says he's great. They have a ton in common and she really enjoys his company. It's getting serious, but here's the problem. She says she doesn't feel a spark. SO she wants to know if she should end this relationship with this great guy who cares about her and treats her really well and who she really likes and enjoys just because there's no spark...What do you all think???

Well my initial reaction is to end it. Though I reread and now I'm confused. She really likes and enjoys being with this guy but there's no spark? What's the definition of a spark then? Cause I was going to say "why in the world did it even get to a second date without a spark?", but then there's all this liking and enjoying going on. To me that's a spark. Unless spark just means physical. Which would be news to me.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:02 AM

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Originally posted by Mavourneen:

Morning, Penguin, Kel, anyone else lurking...(HK!)

Wait...the NinjaKitty is lurking?

*hides in the blossoms*

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:07 AM

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Wait...the NinjaKitty is lurking?

*hides in the blossoms*

Grass may be better...

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:07 AM

Um yeah I think by spark she means that WOWZA physical tug you feel when you want to just jump someone...

DTH- Oh I did not change it 'cause of your post. I wanted something un-fairy now

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:10 AM

Ok that cat was too big and took too long to load so

new sig again

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:12 AM

msg, vampchick just posted

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:16 AM

TINADOLL

*waves*

*goes back into her coma*

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:17 AM

yeah I caught that and replied. Glad she's ok I was getting worried:)

OK deep breath as the kids have arrived and it's time to go be patient and kind no matter how horrible they are.

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:19 AM

Go in Peace, My Child...

Spread joy and light where you can. If not, a game of catch the electrical cord Marco Polo is always a hoot.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:35 AM

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Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Wait...the NinjaKitty is lurking?

*hides in the blossoms*

*sneaks up behind DTH*

BOO!!!!

Gotta work on your ninja skills!

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

Yea though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for I am Forsaken

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:57 AM

Good morning.

MSG- Sometimes the lack of the initial spark to a great person is due to issues with the bad ones. Did your friend date guys exclusively on the douche-baggy side? Maybe she's gone for the same type of guy and this one, despite being great, is different, perhaps too good. I say this because it seems I've been that guy FOREVER! Always "finding" the great girl with underlaying issues.
Hell, I never seem to get away from them.
Not to turn attention from your friend to me, but that could be the guys side of the story.
Just some quick input before starting work.

And thanks Mavs. I can't tell you how absolutely reassuring it is to be recognized as an adult. I actually feel to have matured having been told so.

On that note, it's time to work.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:09 AM

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Originally posted by nvghostrider:
And thanks Mavs. I can't tell you how absolutely reassuring it is to be recognized as an adult. I actually feel to have matured having been told so.

I truly hope you didn't think I was being condescending. Because I wasn't, at all.
It's hard to discern your tone in the above.

If you felt what I said helped in any way, I'm glad to be here for you. If not...I' m sorry you took it that way.

(I do feel there is a distinct moment in everyone's lives where you stop and say "Sh*t, I must be an adult." You supervisory, honest and open adult you.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:14 AM

My first "Adult" realization was when I was talking with my closest friend about my little one going to school. We both decided that a uniform in school was a good idea (WTFFF!!!) because it helps aleviate the whole "popular clothes" thing.

My little one goes to a Charter School and they require uniforms.

This was last summer when he came from Denver to visit. We were sitting there discussing the topic over a few beers. When we were done we both had these really perplexed looks on our faces cuz we realized what just happened. We wern't talking movies, games or comics. We were talking like our parents.

I would have thrown a fit if I had to wear a uniform while I was in school.

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

Yea though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for I am Forsaken

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:17 AM

Mine was when I was teaching my first year and I told one of the kids they needed to work. The kids said why, and I said because I told you to and I'm your teacher. ...It was really weird to say I'm your teacher the first time and realize I WAS THE TEACHER.

NV- she hasn't dated much ( I think she's way too picky and keeps waiting for the "perfect" guy) But I would agree with what you said:) HUGS

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:18 AM

ZEEK

Does anybody else operate this way? Where if you are getting pulled in like 10 different directions and all of these are apparently "urgent" that you just shutdown and feel like doing none of them? I think it's because if I focus on one then I feel like I'm neglecting the others. Where if I neglect them all at least I'm being fair.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:19 AM

My typing must be stern and a bit condecending.

"Oh no he didn't. Don't you type at me in that tone."

I love you Mavs. Seems I can get a little dry and indecerable with my typing. Sadly, I do it with my speech on occasion and it gets me in trouble with friends for a day or two.

And I really had that "Holy poop dude!" moment.

Does anyone else feel they are getting better with age? Though I complain about moving on, it feels like I can run, think, feel, and perform better in everyday life than I could ten years ago. Really wish I coulda found this feeling earlier.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:27 AM

*hugs NV*

Holy poop dude, indeed.

My first adult moment was at 24, a few months after my Mom's funeral, when I was signing pieces of paper to legally sell her house. I distinctly remember pausing with my pen over the paper, thinking that this is what adults do. They buy and sell houses.
So I must be an adult.

EDIT: Re-read my post, and then remembered another "Holy Poop I'm an adult" moment much later in life. Husband & I tried for several years to get PG, without success. When I discovered I was indeed pregnant, I went into extreme panic mode. (Oh, my God, what have I done, maybe I can give it up for adoption) - As teenagers, most girls are brainwashed into thinking their lives are over if they get pregnant. Well, at least I was brainwashed. So when I actually did get pregnant, I freaked. The moment (a few days later) I realized "Duh, you can take care of this child you moron" was when I really became an adult.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:33 AM

Zeek dear that happens to me all the time ( for me it's called ADD) I find making a list and just crossing off one thing at a time works ok for me:) HUGS

NV- see you are so cool:) and yes I do think my confidence, my ability to handle myself and situations , and my interests have gotten a lot better as I've grown:)

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:49 AM

Now, MSG, your friend wouldn't happen to be a human service worker, has had few romantic relationships, seems to have trouble with reliability in her personal life, is incredibly attractive, and is a bit of a pertfectionist?
Just curious.

Mavs- Despite having to deal with adult situations since I was very young it feels like I've never had the chance to mature. Kinda wierd that this situation is one to help move me toward it.

And as for the multiple things gone undone Zeek, I feel where you're coming from. Is your desk messy but you can still find exactly what you're looking for? Are you usually able to multi task with little effort? If so then chances are you are a visionary going through a slump.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:55 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

ok so WHAT THE HELL IS Johnny's mandate? Cause I miss a lot.

---- plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose

Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre, Owner of a too big Turnippy smelling coat with MR scratched in the neck (thanks FollowMal!)

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:57 AM

Yay! FMF is in da house.
The Jonny Mandate states that wence a thread hits 100 posts then a new thread should be started. Helps keep the load time down.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:58 AM

*Waves to FMF*

HI FMF how is the Bestower of Titles today?

Johnny Mandate is in reference to Thread length. JQ used to complain about threads being too long after reaching around 100 posts so HK I think dubbed it the Jonny Mandate. RIMG even had a Wiki added for it. But that has since been removed

Kelkhil

The Shirtless Forsaken

Yea though I walk through the Valley of the Shadow of Death, I will fear no evil: for I am Forsaken

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:17 AM

Oh we've been removed...that's sad:(

HUGS FMF!! you stalker you...giggle

NV- nope it's a 40 year old reading teacher...but hey maybe she has a sister.

OK so very very done now.

"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:25 AM

HELL'S KITTEN

*HK waves to Mavourneen from her hiding spot*

Quote:
Originally posted by Kelkhil: Johnny Mandate is in reference to Thread length. JQ used to complain about threads being too long after reaching around 100 posts so HK I think dubbed it the Jonny Mandate.

I'm starting to wish I hadn't coined that term.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:27 AM

TINADOLL

...Boy i missed alot.

Holy crap i'm an adult. Does this mean i have to give my PS2 and my stuffed animals back?

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:31 AM

Absolutely. My address is 1330.......

Just curious MSG. She sounds alot like someone I know.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:31 AM

Too late, NinjaKitty. Your regret comes far, far too late.

*glares at Kel for scaring her* Meanie!

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 7:56 AM

LOL what I love is that he pretty much never enforces the mandate...it's always one of us LOL

NV- yeah I know what you mean:)

My patience with the kids today is razor thin...argh!! Sometimes I wish they'd just behave, but then I remember what I am and what I do...oh well there's always chocolate

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:15 AM

ZEEK

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
And as for the multiple things gone undone Zeek, I feel where you're coming from. Is your desk messy but you can still find exactly what you're looking for? Are you usually able to multi task with little effort? If so then chances are you are a visionary going through a slump.

Desk? It ain't just my desk that's messy. I'm always messy. Neat people get really annoyed by it mainly because even with insanely obscure things I can manage to find them in no time in the mess. Like "oh my library card from IL that is pointless to have now that I'm in TX? Yeah that's right about "here" in pile #2476. Here ya go."

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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:17 AM