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Monday, July 2, 2007 7:28 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Quote:
Originally posted by hobbleit:
Hello all.

I can't be bothered to read all the posts at the moment so could someone tell me what's going on?

Not me, but I'm sure someone will.

Going outside for to clean my weapons for the first and possilby only JonnyQuest dressup party for one. Coming soon to a Picture thread near you. This collection has not yet been rated. Back later.


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Monday, July 2, 2007 7:29 AM

RUGBUG


Oh, I finally have a few moments after a crazy week. Let's see if I can play a little catch up.

CK: I really hope you can find a doctor that can help you. You sound like you know a lot of what is going on with you, and I'm sure that turns a lot of doctors off. These days, with the advent of the internet and information just a click away, patients come armed with a lot more knowledge...and sometimes come armed with a diagnosis. Doctors aren't known for being the most humble of sorts as a group, and I'm sure it isn't easy on their ego to hear a quite accurate diagnosis from a patient.

*Warning, the following story only relates in a VERY small way. I was talking to my vet about the same thing. My horse had a suspected abscess, which is very easy to diagnose, so when I called her, I told her I thought he had an abscess in his right front medial heel. We had used hoof testers and knew that's where the locus of the pain was. Turns out we were right, she pulled the shoe, drained the abscess, but did little diagnosis work. When I talked to her later in the day, she said that we hardly need her anymore...that we do most of it ourselves. There was a tiny bit of annoyance in her voice...but just a tiny bit. I'm sure it's worse with doctors.

Anyway...I do hope you can find a doctor that can help you. And as an aside, even if you DO find a doctor...is there treatment for your suspected ailments? From what you state, permanent relief from symptoms doesn't sound too promising.

Wedding rings: As a single woman, I appreciate men who wear their rings. I couldn't care less about the women.

I do see the ring as a declaration to the world, and think I would do my best to wear mine except in circumstances where it could cause injury, but I know others feel differently.

So, you ask what I've been up to the last week? (even if you don't ask, humor me ). It's year-end time here at work. That means big themed party and decorating contest. This year's theme was Vegas. We take decorating contest very seriously here at my work. Our department split into sections and each picked a casino or Vegas area to decorate as. We had the Mirage, The Flamingo, Treasure Island, a High Roller Lounge, A massage parlor and a Wedding chapel. I was part of TI. This would be me pretending to be a pirate:



That "Dead men tell no tales"poster behind me? Nine sheets of legal paper, printed and matched up to make the poster. That took some time.

And our treasure chest:

(We all have stinky pirate teeth in that tasted like feet. Or what I imagine feet would taste like. We were very happy to get those out of our mouth.)

Anyway...my little group won the decoratey contest. Woohooo. I've got to say that I'm glad it's over and my desk is back to normal.

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Monday, July 2, 2007 7:32 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Jimi

It may be "just jewelry" to a man. But, as a woman - it is NOT "just jewelry".


I am pretty sure it was a woman who called it that originally in the thread.

Anyhow, I don't believe in the things that the initial marriage was based on, as it was a Christian wedding, so I would rather re-do our vows before any new adornements are purchased.

*sits back and waits for the imminent attacks*

EDIT:
Quote:
Originally posted by RugBug:
Wedding rings: As a single woman, I appreciate men who wear their rings. I couldn't care less about the women.

That there presents another problem I have with wearing one, especially for an open relationship. :\

~jimi

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Monday, July 2, 2007 7:45 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Quote:
Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Jimi

It may be "just jewelry" to a man. But, as a woman - it is NOT "just jewelry".


I am pretty sure it was a woman who called it that originally in the thread.


*looks down at chest*

Yep. I are a woman.
But nope. What I said was :
Quote:
A gold ring, and a piece of paper filed at the courthouse do not a marriage make.


I actually think it is more than jewelry. It is a strong symbol.

Quote:
Anyhow, I don't believe in the things that the initial marriage was based on, as it was a Christian wedding, so I would rather re-do our vows before any new adornements are purchased.

*sits back and waits for the imminent attacks*


No attacks. *shrugs shoulders*

You know how I feel.
But if the ring does not represent how you feel, ok.

edit:
Quote:
Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
That there presents another problem I have with wearing one, especially for an open relationship. :\


:\ , indeed. Feels kinda like *jazz hands* to me.
*hug, cause I think you need one*

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Monday, July 2, 2007 7:58 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:
Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
Jimi

It may be "just jewelry" to a man. But, as a woman - it is NOT "just jewelry".


I am pretty sure it was a woman who called it that originally in the thread.


*Checks to see if he's still a man*

Whew, had me worried for a minute!!!

I just feel that, if you love each other, then does a ring matter. It's not like if I lose this ring then I won't love you anymore.

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:02 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
It's not like if I lose this ring then I won't love you anymore.
Those are the nicest words you've ever said to me, Zero.





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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:09 AM

RUGBUG


Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
I just feel that, if you love each other, then does a ring matter. It's not like if I lose this ring then I won't love you anymore.


Of course not. A ring ISN'T love. If you lose it, you lose it. I wear my grandmother's wedding and engagement rings (on my right hand) but they weren't her first. She lost her first set on the bus when she took them off to put lotion on her hands. I don't think it made her love my grandfather any less. I think it was his intolerant need for perfection that made that happen. (they never divorced, but man was he a pistol until about 1978 when he had a stroke. That stroke was a godsend and mellowed him out a ton).

But for me, wearing a ring would mean that I am committed to someone and want others to know it. Not wearing it would mean that the committment is over.

For someone like Jimi, who has an open marriage, I suppose a ring would be a hinderance...because a lot of people do see that ring and stop thinking of the person as available.

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:14 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
It's not like if I lose this ring then I won't love you anymore.
Those are the nicest words you've ever said to me, Zero.



I thought you said "Not in public".

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:27 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Quote:
Originally posted by Mavourneen:
*hug, cause I think you need one*

Yes, I do. :\

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:28 AM

HOBBLEIT


Isn't it annoying when you go to do something and then you forget what it is you were planning to do?

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:29 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
It's not like if I lose this ring then I won't love you anymore.
Those are the nicest words you've ever said to me, Zero.



I thought you said "Not in public".
Those weren't the three words that I used...



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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:38 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:
Originally posted by zerokiryu:
It's not like if I lose this ring then I won't love you anymore.
Those are the nicest words you've ever said to me, Zero.



I thought you said "Not in public".
Those weren't the three words that I used...


I wasn't talking about those three...

Quote:
Isn't it annoying when you go to do something and then you forget what it is you were planning to do?


Yes, that happens to me ALL the time!!!

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:43 AM

MSG


Are we distracting you Hobbleit???

HUGS and more HUGS Jimi sweety

Wow I figured this ring thing would be a one off question, but apparently it's tapped into our collective psyche..cool!

I was on the it's no big deal as long as I am wearing my wedding band why do I have to wear the big honkin diamond everywhere and MisterG was upset, but it seems he had cause to feel slighted so I'll apologize and make sure to wear it everywhere from now on...

this is the ring in case you're wondering



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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:49 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Looking at it from a logical point of view, which I seem to lack in some areas, it would make sense to always wear it when going out. One reason would be to let others know you were taken (messed up an opportunity for me at last year's D*C, though I had "permission" to do stuff anyhow) and not to try to approach in that manner (unless you were extremely bold/confidant/rude). Another would be to show off the (carat) size of the diamond. I do, however, understand taking it off when there is the possibility that it or you could be harmed by wearing it. *shrug*

~jimi

No pleasure, no rapture, no exquisite sin greater, than central air.

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:51 AM

MSG


Hey would a marinated chicken breast and asparagus be considered lunch??

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:51 AM

ZEROKIRYU


Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
this is the ring in case you're wondering


*Jaw drops*

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:55 AM

HOBBLEIT


Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Are we distracting you Hobbleit???

HUGS and more HUGS Jimi sweety

Wow I figured this ring thing would be a one off question, but apparently it's tapped into our collective psyche..cool!

I was on the it's no big deal as long as I am wearing my wedding band why do I have to wear the big honkin diamond everywhere and MisterG was upset, but it seems he had cause to feel slighted so I'll apologize and make sure to wear it everywhere from now on...

this is the ring in case you're wondering



Yes, but only in a good way. And that's a great ring!

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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:56 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
this is the ring in case you're wondering

Very pretty. What is the carat on the main rock? (The little ones look 1/20th, but picture can deceive.)



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Monday, July 2, 2007 8:59 AM

NVGHOSTRIDER


Yummins! Add some wild rice and we're cookin' with gas.

Hey everybody.



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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:11 AM

MSG


Hey NV...check your email:) HUGS!

Fly -main is 2 carat and I have no idea about the little stones. I wear it with a sweet little 3/4 carat eternity band and a plain gold wedding band( which I wear 24/7)

Zero- yup Mister G has excellent jewelry taste:)..here's his( which I picked out)





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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:15 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Fly -main is 2 carat and I have no idea about the little stones. I wear it with a sweet little 3/4 carat eternity band and a plain gold wedding band( which I wear 24/7)

Zero- yup Mister G has excellent jewelry taste:)..here's his( which I picked out)

THAT is nice. I'd wear that. I like the combo of metal colors.

Actually I wouldn't wear it very often. I tend to be rough with rings and I like solid, strong, thick, and smooth. Nothing for anything to catch on.



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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:19 AM

MSG


well as MisterG is a banker I don't think he could get it caught on the paperwork..giggle Oh and I got your PM and will mail that out today. Just observe safety guidelines...see the bar

ok I completely negated the healthy chicken asparagus lunch with an ice cream cone( it is a skinny cow one with lowfat ice cream and only 140 calories,but still)


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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:25 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS


Chicken breast and asparagus sounds like a great lunch, though I liked the idea of adding the wild rice to it. :)

I am out for the day, I will talk to y'all later on.

~jimi

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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:27 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE


Morning all! Man you guys post fast!

Quote:
Originally posted by Rugbug:
CK: I really hope you can find a doctor that can help you. You sound like you know a lot of what is going on with you, and I'm sure that turns a lot of doctors off.
*Hugs*, Rugbug (I don't think I give you enough hugs ). You're right about this. I try not to go to a doctor and say "I think I have this, can you confirm it?" If they give their opinion and don't mention the thing I've been suspecting, I may ask "well, what about X?" After living with this thing for three and a half years and seeing more than a dozen doctors, I don't want to re-tread the same topics with every new doc, and I've found patterns in my illness that I keep hoping will mean something to the right doctor. The last set of docs I had were pretty open to suggestion and ran numerous tests because of things I'd read on (reputable) websites, but when it comes right down to it, I need someone who knows more than I know, more than I could read online.

Quote:
And as an aside, even if you DO find a doctor...is there treatment for your suspected ailments? From what you state, permanent relief from symptoms doesn't sound too promising.
Well, yes and no. What I have seems to be chronic, and if it's autoimmune like I (and several previous doctors) suspect it is, then it will be a life-long ailment. But there's research that suggests that all autoimmune diseases do better in the long run if they are treated aggressively as early as possible. With every flare of the disease, you get a bit worse and never quite rebound, so medications that prevent, suppress, or shorten flares keeps the patient at a higher level of health for a lot longer. So, all else being equal, the sooner I can get a diagnosis and start treatment, the better I'll feel when I'm 50 years old, etc. But I'll probably stay on the pain meds I've been on, even after I get a diagnosis, unless there's some medication out there that works particuarly well for this type of pain.


Wedding rings: If you have them I think they should be worn whenever possible, but I think it's more about the social norm than about any real meaning in the rings themselves. My mom didn't have a wedding or engagement ring until I was 6 years old, and Dad didn't have one until I was 11 -- it was just an extravagance that they couldn't afford for a long time. I wear both my engagement and wedding ring almost everywhere. I take them off daily for showering and dishes and such, but unless I'm going to the beach I don't leave the house without them. Hubby sometimes forgets his in the shower, but I don't worry about him getting hit on when he isn't wearing his ring , since he has a "married guy" vibe -- without realizing it, he tends to give women a once over with a look that says "you don't measure up", and then wonders why his friends get hit on but he doesn't, lol.

Books: haven't read Dresden, but the peacock story reminded me a bit of The Stress of Her Regard by Tim Powers. Anyone here a Tim Powers fan? I just finished reading The Anubis Gates, and I'm re-reading On Stranger Tides while I'm deciding on which Tim Powers novel to order from Amazon next. Probably my favorite author ever. His plots are a bit like The Da Vinci Code, only based on actual, verifiably correct historical facts. (My apologies to any Dan Brown fans, but you're not likely to find a bigger Dan Brown hater than me.)

Lunch: MsG, anything and everything you make sounds damn tastey. .

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:40 AM

MAVOURNEEN


My engagement ring that I no longer wear:



The center stone on my ring is round, not square like in this picture.

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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:45 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:
Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
After living with this thing for three and a half years...
Have you left your house/job for a significant time? Do you feel better, then? Reason for mentioning is that I had a co-worker that gained serious health issues that he couldn't nail down to anything. Then he changed jobs and convinced himself that it was the building that he worked in. He had another co-worker that experienced the same thing. (This was a while before I worked with him, so I know nothing of the building.) It took weeks, but his health returned.



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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:45 AM

MSG


That's lovely Mav why don't you wear it? ( if you don't mind my asking?)


CK- have you tried a teaching hospital?? Usually medical professors have a wider range of info available to them and they can share it as a case history with a large chunk of people who can all brainstorm...that can be really effective. HUGS and wish I could help more

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Monday, July 2, 2007 9:57 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE


Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Have you left your house/job for a significant time?
I've lived in two states and four separate apartments/condos since this thing started, worked in two different offices during the first six months, and worked from home for the past 3 years. So I'm pretty sure my location doesn't have a lot to do with it. Weather seems to affect it, both directly and indirectly (I feel better if I spend time out in the sun, worse if I catch a cold) and traveling can hurt both short term and long term (if I catch something from whatever dumbass flew while hacking up a lung), but that's about it as far as location goes.

Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
CK- have you tried a teaching hospital?? Usually medical professors have a wider range of info available to them and they can share it as a case history with a large chunk of people who can all brainstorm...that can be really effective. HUGS and wish I could help more.
I live pretty close to a med school, so by default about half of the specialists I've seen also teach at the school, but I haven't tried a teaching hospital specifically. My insurance being what it is, I generally have to work through a primary care doc, and I'm done trying to pick one of those based on supposed credentials.

Thanks for the hugs, though. eHugs (as HK calls them ) seem to be the best medicine right now: it helps knowing people care, and I can't catch a cold from an eHug!

Oh, if we're posting rings, here's the best one I managed to snap of mine, almost five years ago when I was planning the wedding. I had a wedding band cast that fits the bottom edge of the ring like a glove.


~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:02 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Thanks Msg. The reasons are a few.
It's a beautiful ring, but it is large, and overpowers my hand a bit.
I worked with a woman many years ago who only wore a wedding band. I asked her about it once, and she said offhand that the wedding band meant more to her than the engagement ring, and having a big rock on her hand "wasn't her." That's when I wore my engagement ring every day.
Her words have stuck with me for years.

Lastly, I got used to not wearing any rings when Husband & I were separated. When he gave me the replacement wedding band, I decided not to put the engagement ring back on.

My simple gold band means more than any pretty he could give me.
Mainly, cause I value him.

***See honey, I do talk nicely about you!***

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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:06 AM

MSG


ROTHFLMAO!!!! Mav that is so totally something I would have said ( the " see Honey" thing)

CK- hmm how annoying is that. Maybe you can poke around at the medical school and see if there are any "studies" you could participate in... HUGS though and I hope someone figures it out, 'cause that's just wrong not knowing:)


HUGS to you all and I am off to babysit the adorable and wonderful Wyatt:) See you all later

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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:07 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:
Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Have you left your house/job for a significant time?
I've lived in two states and four separate apartments/condos since this thing started, worked in two different offices during the first six months, and worked from home for the past 3 years. So I'm pretty sure my location doesn't have a lot to do with it.
Rats. I was hoping that would be it. I figure that if I cure you, I'm pretty much guaranteed a hug. Now no hug.





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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:09 AM

FLYVOTE


Quote:
Originally posted by msg:
Oh and I got your PM and will mail that out today. Just observe safety guidelines...see the bar
Thanks!



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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:17 AM

HOBBLEIT


Well, I'm off for the night. I am absolutely knackered.

See you all tomorrow.

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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:18 AM

MAVOURNEEN


Have a good night, MsG. Kiss Wyatt for us.

I'll be out here soon, myself. Gotta pick up Das Kinder, and make dinner.

Too bad "Housewife" isn't a paying position...

edit: Hi and Bye, Hobbleit!
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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:28 AM

FLYVOTE


Goodnight!



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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:30 AM

ZEROKIRYU


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Zero- yup Mister G has excellent jewelry taste:)..here's his( which I picked out)


You have good taste as well, I love that ring!!

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Monday, July 2, 2007 11:04 AM

RHYIANAN


CK: You say that you feel better when you've been out in the sun...do you think that could be due to increased vitamin D? If so, have you considered taking supplements to see if it helps a little bit?

Msg and Mavs: Good lord...are those rings as huge as they look in the pics? If so, I can see why you wouldn't want to wear them all the time.


I'm a leaf on the wind

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Monday, July 2, 2007 11:12 AM

CALIFORNIAKAYLEE


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Rats. I was hoping that would be it. I figure that if I cure you, I'm pretty much guaranteed a hug. Now no hug.

Poor Fly, doomed to a hugless life.

Quote:
Originally posted by Rhyianan:
CK: You say that you feel better when you've been out in the sun...do you think that could be due to increased vitamin D? If so, have you considered taking supplements to see if it helps a little bit?
Yeah, that's the theory I'm working with. After noticing that I felt better when I'd been out in the sun, I did some research and found that there's been a few studies recently linking vitamin D deficiency with increased autoimmune activity, so it makes sense. I'm taking a multivitamin with D in it and I've upped my milk intake (which was way difficult for me ), but nothing seems to have quite as strong an affect as 30 minutes in the sun twice a week. Shrug.

~CK

You can't take the sky from me...

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Monday, July 2, 2007 11:19 AM

JONNYQUEST

"Did he just go crazy and fall asleep?"


Streaking through (literally; on my way to the shower before work) to post notice: PhotoProject complete. Post will have to wait until later. (for those of you with no patience they are all in my 'bucket. http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/jonnyquestone/PhotoEssays/

Will be back later tonight to catch up on what's new.

Hugs to CK.


Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

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Monday, July 2, 2007 11:22 AM

RHYIANAN


Well I hope the doctor thing works out. I've found lately that the doctors I go to seem to expect you to already have some idea of what's wrong....asking them to figure it out is an ordeal that takes several visits as they give medication and then ask if it worked.


I'm a leaf on the wind

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Monday, July 2, 2007 3:18 PM

PENGUIN


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Quote:
Originally posted by Rhyianan:
CK: You say that you feel better when you've been out in the sun...do you think that could be due to increased vitamin D? If so, have you considered taking supplements to see if it helps a little bit?
Yeah, that's the theory I'm working with. After noticing that I felt better when I'd been out in the sun, I did some research and found that there's been a few studies recently linking vitamin D deficiency with increased autoimmune activity, so it makes sense. I'm taking a multivitamin with D in it and I've upped my milk intake (which was way difficult for me ), but nothing seems to have quite as strong an affect as 30 minutes in the sun twice a week. Shrug.

~CK






King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, July 2, 2007 4:30 PM

HELL'S KITTEN


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Monday, July 2, 2007 10:40 PM

HOBBLEIT


New thread....

http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=29485

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