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Originally posted by Darkfly:
No Offence but their haven't been many profitable films that have made money with female leads, The Resident Trilogy, Alien Quadrilogy, Kill Bill Volume, and Tomb Raider series, but two of them are Game Adaptions but neither are particularly good.

Again not trying to cause offence but since Men and Women tend to be seen as two different types, big and strong(Men), pretty and 2nd place(Women). So in a way Men can't watch movies with action female leads plus most of the time its their stunt double and its somebody like Charlie Theron or some A list star who don't have a clue how to fight and look ridiculous doing action movies, audiences won't stand to watch that kinda of crap. Not saying Women can't do other types of films just not action not unless your Summer Glau(at least she can do 99% of her stunts and is very flexible, pretty too).

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
Wait, I just thought of something revolutionary.

These bad movies with female leads. . . Could it be possible that they're losing money because they're bad movies, and not because of the female leads?

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Originally posted by Darkfly:
What I meant by actress's not doing the stunts, 1st some of the times they don't look the part to do it(ton of makeup,etc) but I did say some of the time not all which just takes credibility out of the film,

2nd sometimes they can't even do simplest of stunts,

3rdly they are just plain lazy. Even Summer Glau didn't do 100% of stunts cause some where dangerous(really).

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Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:

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Originally posted by Darkfly:
What I meant by actress's not doing the stunts, 1st some of the times they don't look the part to do it(ton of makeup,etc) but I did say some of the time not all which just takes credibility out of the film,

2nd sometimes they can't even do simplest of stunts,

3rdly they are just plain lazy. Even Summer Glau didn't do 100% of stunts cause some where dangerous(really).

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And 4th, you're a complete idiot.

Adam Baldwin didn't do all his own stunts, either. Same for Fillion, Tudyk, etc.
Does that mean they're lazy and incapable, too? (ZOMG!!1! And they were in make-up, too!!!)

Or, gosh, I dunno... maybe the movie company can't risk losing one of the main actors to an accident because they're not trained as stuntmen? Oooooh, or maybe liability insurance would be incredibly expensive if they made untrained people do dangerous stunts?

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Originally posted by Darkfly:
And your a dumb ass for not reading the whole of my post since I did give reasons why some movies work with Female leads, and I even said that its usually down to the storyline of the film which lets it down not the actress.

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And your a dumb ass for not reading the whole of my post since I did give reasons why some movies work with Female leads, and I even said that its usually down to the storyline of the film which lets it down not the actress.

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I did read the whole of your post.
And it seems as though you completely missed the point of mine.
You called female actresses incompetent (not be able to do even simple stunts) and lazy.
Neither of those accusations you made has anything.

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God women I said Some actresses, even pointed that out twice and I was only talking about the ones which are rubbish at action movies.

And remember I'm with having Female action stars, stunts is just one of many reasons sometimes actress can't do action movies. And lets not foget its the stroyline half the time of not more than half the time which lets the film down.

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Originally posted by Darkfly:

3rdly they are just plain lazy.

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3rdly they are just plain lazy.

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And male actors, of course, are never lazy. :) Riiiiight.

Seriously, dude, that's where I stopped reading. Maybe because I was half afraid to hear you say next that women can't vote, either. Or go to college. Or what not, not.

I'm sure there's a reason why movies with women in a leading role don't do all that well (and even that broad generalization is on shaky grounds: Sigourney Weaver did pretty well in the Alien sagas). But bringing up actresses' alleged laziness was reason for me to deduct 10 points from your argument. And since I generally pull the plug at -10, the buck stopped there; and me along with it.

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
All I gotta say is I can't wait to hear if Joss has a comment or two about Warner Bros.

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All I gotta say is I can't wait to hear if Joss has a comment or two about Warner Bros.

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Good video, worth watching twice

Love the bit when he says, "Why do you keep asking me why I write these strong women characters, why don't you go and ask a 100 other people why they don't"

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Originally posted by Canter:
Wow,

It never fails. Bring up the difference between men and women and somewhere, somehow, it always gets off track. Such language! I'm amused. And the sulking is impressive too.

Back on topic

I think that (if this allegation is true) WB is making a very big generalisation to blame the performance of their movies on the gender of the lead actor.

Surely there are different genres of movies. Action movies are traditionally aimed at a male audience, right? (Although a lot of females like it too, I think it's safe to say that action moviegoers are primarily men) If that is your target audience, it might be that men don't like females in action roles.
If this is true, shouldn't their statement then be that they do not intend to make any action movies with female leads, because it doesn't fare well with their target audience. (Though how they ended up with three Tomb Raiders and God knows how many Alien movies, if that was the case, I do not know.....)

But they are not saying they're not making any action movies. The statement accredited to them is that they are not making any movies with a female lead. Since mainstream romantic comedies generally require a lead from both sexes, I suppose this now means that they are no longer making any of those comedies.

And if they intend to make any dramas for their female audiences, they damn well had better get some strong female leads in there, since men aren't well known for watching these types of movies.

Since the above makes no sense whatsover, I suppose the reported statement had better be taken with a grain of salt.

Unless WB is from now on only going to make action movies, and then only for men.

If that's the case, good luck to them. I wouldn't have to boycot them. They just won't be showing anything I'd be interested in.

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The problem is bad storyline's

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Originally posted by jwhedonaddict:
http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=131948

Warner Bros president of production Jeff Robinov who Finke quotes (through three sources) as saying: "We are no longer doing movies with women in the lead."

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