No one cares about Gina Torres (Zoe)? by dogjoy3

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No one cares about Gina Torres (Zoe)?

POSTED BY: DOGJOY3
UPDATED: Friday, November 2, 2007 02:09
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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:56 AM

Why is it that we never here anything about Gina on the Threads? She doesn't go to the Cons and the other actors rarely if ever mention her, why? dos any one know if they had a falling out? Personally there would be no firefly, Serenity without her, So... whats up with that?

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:57 AM

MICJWELCH

I actually photoshopped her as Wonder Woman a while back.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=10845

As far as why she's not at the conventions and such, I really couldn't say.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:07 AM

FINEHAT

That's a good question. I think Gina is great. She did a stint on 24 that was fantastic! Maybe she's like (and I'm showing my age here) David Cassidy or Susan Dey. They got their big breaks on The Partridge Family, but won't have anything to do with it any more. Same with Ginger from Gilligan's Island. She never participated in the cult activities that followed the show.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:21 AM

BROWNCOATSANDINISTA

I think Right now ((May Be Wrong)) She's Kinda Pregnant, and I think that may be her main focus right now ((I'm a guy, so I don't know quite how demanding that is, but I'd assume it takes precedence to things like working if you're a successful actress with a successful actor husband.))

That's my theory anyway. And I agree that without her brilliant portrayal of Zoe, there wouldn't be any Firefly. So, the call goes out, does anyone know what's going on for Ms. Torres? Has she delivered? If so is the Baby Healthy? I would hope so.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:27 AM

DAVESHAYNE

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Originally posted by dogjoy3:
Why is it that we never here anything about Gina on the Threads?

Mostly we just cover the conundrums of the characters and there really isn't anything we don't know about Zoe. Extremely loyal to Mal, deeply in love with Wash, able to hurt Jayne. That's all you need to know aout Zoe and it's all there in the series/movie.

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She doesn't go to the Cons

She does go to cons when she has something to promote that con goers would be interested in. Lately she hasn't had a lot to promote to the fen is all.

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and the other actors rarely if ever mention her, why? dos any one know if they had a falling out?

Not that I've ever heard.

David

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:27 AM

GRIZWALD

The baby was due sometime in late summer. I never heard what they had. I hope all is going well for the family.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:33 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:53 AM

REGINAROADIE

Also, she has a fairly busy career. I know she was on STANDOFF last year, and she was also in that Chris Rock movie I THINK I LOVE MY WIFE. So I think she's on the same level as Alan in that they both have a steady stream of work in movies, which is why they may not go to many conventions.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:53 AM

GORRAMGROUPIE

She also has been in a series, that takes up a lot of time, plus being pregnant on top, no wonder she didn't travel for a while! Can't find any news on the birth though. Anyone know for sure when(or I hate to say it, if) she had the baby?

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:55 AM

MACBAKER

I think she wants to focus on a film career now. TV just takes too much time out of an actor's life, and she wants to have that time with her family and homelife. Her husband is a film actor and I think she envys the time he has off that she didn't have when she was doing series work.

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:59 AM

MICJWELCH

IMDB says she's got two movies coming out soon.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0868659/

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:11 AM

RALLEM

In the extra stuff on Serenity it said that she unlike most other actors is quite a veteran with science fiction, so I would imagine she is too busy to attend conventions. The only other actor I know in the show is Alyn Tudyk who was Steve the Pirate in Dodgeball. Hmm, do I spot a trend forming? He's sort of a piriate here too.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:18 AM

FARFLY

http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2007/10/laurence-fishbu.html

"Matrix actor Laurence Fishburne, 46, and his actress wife Gina Torres, 38, have obviously welcomed their first child together. No word on the date or sex but the baby is believed to be about 3 to 4 months old. This is the first child for the couple."

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:23 AM

GRIZWALD

Wonderful. :) I'm happy for them! Babies are the best. :)

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:42 AM

DOGJOY3

she had a little girl, in June, I didn't get her name.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:51 AM

DOGJOY3

yes I knew that, thank you but Alan talkes with other actors, appeared at Cons, Gina is just Gone from the Verse, Sad! We all ignore her, and she is so important to the franchise and any possible sequel!

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:49 PM

ZZETTA13

We love Zoey. She is talked about often and there are tons of fan fic about her. But seems unlike the others she’s chosen to be less visible. I have no problem with her wanting to keep her private life more private.The other actors of FF are wanting to stay a tad more in the public eye right now while Gina is focusing more on husband and baby. I’m sure she’ll make a comeback if any new BDM is being considered. Remember if you want to taste the chocolate you must stir the coco now and then. Otherwise the mixture will all settle to the bottom.

Z

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:29 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Gorram right we love Zoe. I've loved Gina since I first saw her on Hercules the Legendary Journeys.....

.... Iolaus is looking to hire a ship. He's directed to a pirate named Nebula, he boards to find Gina showering on deck. While averting his eyes (so as not to look at her naked) he asks where he can find the Captain. Nebula (Gina) asks him to throw her a towel, which he does. After a second he looks up to see Nebula holding the towel around her neck as she says, "You're looking at the Captain."

Anyway I digress. Zoe has plenty of fans and as far as I know, Gina has attended several fan events.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 3:37 PM

MISSTRESSAHARA

Wouldn't that be Gina with an I?

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:48 PM

EMPIREX

She seems to be off doing her own thing. She's married - is she still pregnant or did she have her baby?

To me, Gina always seemed more mature than everyone else, a bit more reserved, too. She's probably just not interested in doing cons.

But I think Nathan or Joss mentioned once that she used to invite them over for dinner and that she's an awesome cook, so I doubt there was a falling out. In interviews, she genuinely seemed to love the character and working with Joss and Co. If we get our sequel, I'm certain Gina would return.

As for why we don't talk about her much... Well, we don't see her very often. She's not at the cons, she's not in a new show or a new movie. She doesn't blog. That's the stuff that gets people talking.

ETS: Ah, my question was answered... should have read first...

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:58 PM

BORIS

hey I care about Gina, I have been watching a hohum show called Standoff, about negotiators etc. just because she's in it...mind you I give her kudos for not falling asleep, as the material is lame, and the two lead actors suck! she's great though and the other supports are pretty good too. I keep looking for stuff she's in. any tips?

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:12 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Gina kinda has her own gig going, which is cool. Her marriage and career ( on other shows ) keeps her busy , and then there's that whole having a kid thing. It's not that we don't care about her, she's just not as into the show as much as Nathan and some others are. Can't be a crime to not LOVE Firefly 24/7 , is it ?

I mean, really.

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Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:50 PM

IHAVEISSUES

Check that signature. Not sure this shiny place is the proper venue for calling people facist.

Mal: "Seems like we arrived here in the nick of time. What does that make us?"
Zoe: "Big damn heroes, sir!"
Mal: "Aint we just!"

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:34 AM

CBY

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Originally posted by daveshayne:

Mostly we just cover the conundrums of the characters and there really isn't anything we don't know about Zoe.

While I agree with your overall conclusion, I don't share that particular observation. Watching the show objectively, her character shows very little development during the 14 episodes and the movie. While the rest of the crew gets saturated with humaneness, she remains constant on the verge of becoming a stereotype. I claim that there is a lot more about her than what we currently know, it just hasn't been shown yet. That's an unlucky situation for both character and actress.

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:55 AM

MSG

I kind of felt compelled to point out her name is spelled Gina not Gena ....

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:59 AM

DOGJOY3

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Originally posted by ihaveissues:
Check that signature. Not sure this shiny place is the proper venue for calling people facist.
WHAT?

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:19 AM

IHAVEISSUES

AURaptor's signature ...

Mal: "Seems like we arrived here in the nick of time. What does that make us?"
Zoe: "Big damn heroes, sir!"
Mal: "Aint we just!"

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:03 AM

DAVESHAYNE

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Originally posted by CBY:
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Originally posted by daveshayne:

Mostly we just cover the conundrums of the characters and there really isn't anything we don't know about Zoe.

While I agree with your overall conclusion, I don't share that particular observation. Watching the show objectively, her character shows very little development during the 14 episodes and the movie. While the rest of the crew gets saturated with humaneness, she remains constant on the verge of becoming a stereotype. I claim that there is a lot more about her than what we currently know, it just hasn't been shown yet. That's an unlucky situation for both character and actress.

Zoe's story is about the evolution of her relationships to Wash and Mal and how she navigates the conflicting responsibilities those two relationships imply. Of course post movie everything is different but in a way that provides it's own chalenges.

David

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:13 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:47 AM

DEEPLYKIDDING

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Originally posted by dogjoy3:
Why is it that we never here anything about Gina on the Threads? She doesn't go to the Cons and the other actors rarely if ever mention her, why? dos any one know if they had a falling out? Personally there would be no firefly, Serenity without her, So... whats up with that?

Don't take life so seriously it isn't permanent.

So, Doggy, can I call you Doggy, just for you, here's a picture I made of Zoe/Gina. We love her, we really love her!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=18406

I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass...

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:48 AM

DOGJOY3

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Originally posted by dogjoy3:
Why is it that we never here anything about Gina on the Threads? She doesn't go to the Cons and the other actors rarely if ever mention her, why? dos any one know if they had a falling out? Personally there would be no firefly, Serenity without her, So... whats up with that?

Don't take life so seriously it isn't permanent.

I'm happy to see that my Thread has accomplished its mission, get us talking about Gina! Because I think shes awesome as Zoe, and we need to say so! LOL

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:07 AM

DOGJOY3

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Originally posted by DeeplyKidding:
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Originally posted by dogjoy3:
Why is it that we never here anything about Gina on the Threads? She doesn't go to the Cons and the other actors rarely if ever mention her, why? dos any one know if they had a falling out? Personally there would be no firefly, Serenity without her, So... whats up with that?

Don't take life so seriously it isn't permanent.

So, Doggy, can I call you Doggy, just for you, here's a picture I made of Zoe/Gina. We love her, we really love her!
Thank you, but I think your making fun of me! That's not very nice! should I call you Sally?:)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=18406

I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass...

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:56 PM

DEEPLYKIDDING

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Originally posted by dogjoy3: Thank you, but I think your making fun of me! That's not very nice! should I call you Sally?:)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/sunroomitem.asp?i=18406

Dearest dogjoy3,
please accept my humblest apologies for my poor attempt at humor with your name. *hangs head in shame* I am not very good with the funny.

The pic truly was for you, however. I've been in a sketching mood lately, and after I read your post I decided to draw Gina as Zoe. I almost gave up on it (the hair! the hair!) but I was determined to finish it so I could post it for you. *sends Gina-love out into the universe*

Love,
Sally

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:36 PM

DOGJOY3

Thank you! you are very, very talented! I hope that's what you do , because your very good at it! Apology excepted, XoXoXo

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:49 PM

DEEPLYKIDDING

Thanks! Wish I could write a Zoe fic for you, but I suck at writing stories. Hmm, maybe a haiku is in order...

And I wish it was what I do, but I'm not sure if I could make $$ the way I go about my art.

I'd rather be a smartass than a dumbass...

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Thursday, November 1, 2007 4:03 PM

DOGJOY3

Well... thanks again. I'm partial to Zoe because I'm Cuban too, kindred spirit! And I know about the hair, I have it too! Did any one say flat iron!;)

Don't take life so seriously it isn't permanent.

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Friday, November 2, 2007 12:46 AM

RIVERISMYGODDESS

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Friday, November 2, 2007 2:09 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I can't seem to find the quote; possibly it's in the other Official Companion or it's just too early in the morning, but Gina is the cast member who is the least saddened by Firefly's end. I think the quote was "I still get to see everyone on a regular basis. I can't really be sad about it." Though I'm sure she would play Zoe again, she's not like the cast members who fell head over heels for the characters they played and the job they were doing. Obviously there's no falling out, because she did say she gets to see all of them; they're obviously good friends. She just doesn't focus on the negatives, or the past. She's got a lot of work, she's got a family, and it seems that much like Zoe, she's a very private person. She's not one of the celebrities who gets splashed all over the media when she's having a baby, she kept it much lower profile, though of course we still heard some about it.
Anyway, she's very busy and not as nostalgic. Her character is definitely one of my favorites and I wish I could meet her one day at a con, but if there are other things for her to do then there are other things for her to do.

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.

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