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Who was Shepard Book?
Monday, November 12, 2007 5:27 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, November 12, 2007 6:00 AM
MICJWELCH
Monday, November 12, 2007 6:08 AM
RALLEM
Monday, November 12, 2007 6:29 AM
Monday, November 12, 2007 6:31 AM
JONGSSTRAW
Monday, November 12, 2007 7:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: If you add up all the little clues about Book, you might come to the following conclusion...: He was once an Alliance Agent...a special agent who acted as liason between Parliament and Operatives and Bounty Hunters on covert and non-covert missions.
Monday, November 12, 2007 7:06 AM
Monday, November 12, 2007 7:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Originally posted by Jongsstraw: If you add up all the little clues about Book, you might come to the following conclusion...: He was once an Alliance Agent...a special agent who acted as liason between Parliament and Operatives and Bounty Hunters on covert and non-covert missions. Yes... there is very little doubt that that was the case. But go a few years further back. What could make a man so trusted in an organization as powerful as the Alliance that he could hold a title like that? My guidance counciler never told me about how to do that or how to be a CEO. Stupid public schools! No child left behind with my stupid computer babysitting job... grumble grumble.....
Monday, November 12, 2007 9:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Jongsstraw: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Originally posted by Jongsstraw: If you add up all the little clues about Book, you might come to the following conclusion...: He was once an Alliance Agent...a special agent who acted as liason between Parliament and Operatives and Bounty Hunters on covert and non-covert missions. Yes... there is very little doubt that that was the case. But go a few years further back. What could make a man so trusted in an organization as powerful as the Alliance that he could hold a title like that? My guidance counciler never told me about how to do that or how to be a CEO. Stupid public schools! No child left behind with my stupid computer babysitting job... grumble grumble..... He may have been the guy that Operatives & bounty hunters delivered their prey to. He may have been in charge of their interrogations and/or de-briefings. The brief glimpse of what River sees in him in Objects In Space is enough for me to know that he was not very sympathetic to his detainees, a very scary man.
Monday, November 12, 2007 9:14 AM
Monday, November 12, 2007 9:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rallem: That is a very imaginative guess Jongstraw, and I am willing to bet you are at least partly correct. Let's say for arguments sake that you are completely correct, what do you think was his light to turn him from that life into that of a Shepherd? We saw in Serenity that Operative turn when he glimpsed his better world, so I wonder what catalyst forced Book’s change.
Monday, November 12, 2007 9:35 AM
Monday, November 12, 2007 9:52 AM
DESKTOPHIPPIE
Monday, November 12, 2007 10:30 AM
Monday, November 12, 2007 10:58 AM
SPACEHOPPER
Quote:Originally posted by rallem: I believe that Book is the biggest single mystery remaining after Serenity, but I do not think he was the most dynamic character, and I think his death in the movie was the less tragic of the two the crew experienced. Now the reason I feel this way between the two deaths is that Book did seem to have a long and prestigious past, and if Firefly were to go back into series run several episodes could be written of the crew researching the Shepard’s former life. If the crew were to revisit Wash’s past, there might be a few minutes of him flying for the war, and being a prisoner of war, and in all maybe an entire episode of his relationship with Zoey. Perhaps that episode would show the depth of the pair’s arguments and their passion for one another with the culmination of Zoey giving birth to Wash’s child, but other than that I cannot see any more future episodes with Wash’s character present and that is why I feel his death was the most tragic of the two.
Monday, November 12, 2007 11:45 AM
Monday, November 12, 2007 12:06 PM
Monday, November 12, 2007 2:50 PM
STAPLES
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:13 AM
SPACEANJL
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:24 AM
BROWNCOAT1
May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 6:01 AM
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:14 PM
NEWSHEPHERD
Quote:Originally posted by rallem: ...If the crew were to revisit Wash’s past, there might be a few minutes of him flying for the war, and being a prisoner of war, and in all maybe an entire episode of his relationship with Zoey. Perhaps that episode would show the depth of the pair’s arguments and their passion for one another with the culmination of Zoey giving birth to Wash’s child, but other than that I cannot see any more future episodes with Wash’s character present and that is why I feel his death was the most tragic of the two.
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:48 PM
Tuesday, November 13, 2007 3:29 PM
Thursday, November 15, 2007 11:48 AM
OUT2THEBLACK
Thursday, November 15, 2007 12:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by out2theblack: Most thoughtful post that I can recall seeing from you , 6StringJack . Thoughtful and thought-provoking...The combination is too rare , at times... Not from you particularly , mind...
Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:14 PM
ZEEK
Thursday, November 15, 2007 3:17 PM
Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:48 PM
SHINYSEVEN2
Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:54 PM
Thursday, November 15, 2007 4:58 PM
Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:07 PM
RCAT
Friday, November 16, 2007 4:35 AM
Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:02 PM
DANNIISUPERNOVA
Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:08 PM
Saturday, November 17, 2007 4:12 PM
JOANNAHOBBIT
Quote:Originally posted by micjwelch: I can't pretend to know everything that goes on in Joss's head (I wish...), but I do tend to think that Book is similar to Paul (Yeah, the Paul from the New Testament). I'm certain that he did something, or was something terrible. And some event made him change his life. "We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode."
Saturday, November 17, 2007 5:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by joannahobbit: Quote:Originally posted by micjwelch: I can't pretend to know everything that goes on in Joss's head (I wish...), but I do tend to think that Book is similar to Paul (Yeah, the Paul from the New Testament). I'm certain that he did something, or was something terrible. And some event made him change his life. "We may experience some slight turbulence, and then... explode." Good answer i totally agree That is a very good answer, but wouldn't that be delving way into the christian religion considering Joss is an athiest. Joanna G
Saturday, November 17, 2007 6:23 PM
CHARLIEBZ
Quote:Think for a moment about the Mafia and what you've seen in TV shows and movies about them... If someone such as Book were to be a loyal and devoted right had man for the Don Corleone and then one day was to decide that what he was doing was so horrific that he had to quit.... how many days do you think he would survive when the Mafia decided that because of what he knew that he was too much of a liability that he had to die? dynamic.
Sunday, November 18, 2007 1:11 PM
Sunday, November 18, 2007 2:38 PM
NVGHOSTRIDER
Sunday, November 18, 2007 5:13 PM
Monday, November 19, 2007 1:17 AM
SNUFKIN
Quote:Originally posted by rallem: I don't like the way in Safe a crooked cop's ident chip would have gotten him superior service, and while he might have been born into a rich family I don't think the Alliance would work like that.
Monday, November 19, 2007 2:59 AM
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rallem: In episodes like Safe” and “Bushwhacked” we get a glimpse of some rather professional military crews which I do not see as indicative to a corrupt form of government. At no time did we see an officer or crew member looking for bribes.
Quote:Originally posted by rallem I found it funny that when asked if the bible had said something against killing, Book replied that the bible was very specific about killing and a little fuzzy on the subject of kneecapping, but not for the obvious reasons. Unless they are using a different bible than I have read, the good book is not specific on the act of killing and is only specific on the act of murder.
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 3:04 AM
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Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:28 AM
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:58 AM
KACEK
Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:19 AM
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