If we never get any more Tales from the 'Verse, can we be okay with that? by chrisisall

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If we never get any more Tales from the 'Verse, can we be okay with that?

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
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Friday, December 28, 2007 7:09 PM

If FF/Serenity is all we get, can it still remain that one shining moment in time when all was shiny and perfect- like a first love...can we all be okay with that?

Teary-like Chrisisall

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Friday, December 28, 2007 7:16 PM

FOLLOWMAL

Oh Chris...

*hugs* *then blushes, cuz I don't normally do that*

First of all, I'm not willing to throw in the towel just yet.

I still think there is an ( admittedly ) slim chance that we'll get a direct to DVD movie or a mini-series or a made for tv movie. The only thing certain in life is that nothing is certain. So....

But to answer your question forthrightly. Yes.
I'd be ok. I'd not like it, and upon occasion I'd cry, because I still get teary when I think it's no more. Sometimes I miss Mal and Serenity fiercely and want to know more. But I can live with what we have. It's lightening in a bottle, so very fine and we're lucky we have that!

That said... I'm holdin' til Mal gets back.

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Friday, December 28, 2007 7:25 PM

MIRAMEL

basicly, i second what followmal says.

NOT ready to give up, but, should the horrible come to pass...

...i think the smallness of what we have just makes it that much shinier

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Friday, December 28, 2007 7:55 PM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by Miramel:

...i think the smallness of what we have just makes it that much shinier

Like that first beautiful kiss...

"What was that?" is the best final line in a film- EVER!!!!!

Emotive Chrisisall

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Friday, December 28, 2007 8:05 PM

STRANGEBIRD

One of my favorite lines of all time.

I think I'd be ok. I am in no way ready to even think about giving up though. Not for more than a second anyway.

There's more to tell in the 'verse if Joss and the gang wants to tell it. I am a firm believer that given time, maybe five to ten years, we'll be seeing more of the 'verse. Even if it's a series about completely different folks in a different setting and with a totally different premise I would still love it. Joss and Universal and yes maybe even SOME of the folks over at Fox know there's worth in this franchise so who knows.

In the meantime we have great new shows, like Chuck etc... to keep us lovin' our Big Damn Heroes. As long as they never fade away I'll be content. The lasting legacy of our beloved series will always be what we and the cast and crew who made it took away from it.

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Friday, December 28, 2007 8:10 PM

ANONYMOUS1

More Tales? Serenity: Better Days 3-issue comic Spring 2008

http://www.darkhorse.com/profile/profile.php?sku=15-190

Kaylee is using that capture thing again. "Gotta have records of everything." Can't you just see her having everyone pose by the bags of loot and saying Smile everyone. I mean you too, Captain. Wash making a joke about posing for the nice policeofficers.

Serenity: A Shepherd's Tale comic Date?

Hope for more Firefly/Serenity rests with the Serenity Collector's Edition DVD

See http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/news.php?id=6846
Joss Whedon interview at Comic Con 2007

And the cast commentary is very shiny!

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 2:21 AM

EMBERS

I agree, the cast commentary for 'Serenity' is great....
and I'm looking forward to the comic!

I could be okay with what we've already got from the verse...but I really do believe that this is NOT all there is....

Joss still has these voices in his head, and the only way he gets them out is by finding the means to tell the stories. Sooner or later he will find the means. I really believe that.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:24 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

If...and I do stress IF...that is all we will ever have (on the screen at least) I suppose I will be okay with it, I would have to be or else I'd go mad with grief.

However, I'm with FollowMal. I'm still holding, and I will continue to hold until Joss tells me to give up.

If I was allowed one wish that would absolutely come true, it would be to live in that alternate universe where Firefly was not canceled, and we would now be discussing the huge cliffhanger ending to Episode 11 of Season 6, and cursing the network for allowing holiday specials to interrupt the greatest show in the 'verse.

wo men ren ran zai fei xing.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:47 AM

ZZETTA13

Howdy all
Been a while since I've posted but I'm still here, holdin. I wanted to chime in on this because I've thought about the "What ifs" quite a bit. What if there's no more FF/Serenity will I be alright with that? Well heaven forbid but I will have to be alright with that and I'll make myself be alright with it.Not that I will like it and not that I won't have a hollow spot in my soul because of it.Part of me will never get over the anger I feel for thoes who had a hand in trying to destroy this show.Firefly is more popular now than a lot of what is on television today. The Browncoats have fought the good fight and I feel it must continue. I ain't giving up yet. There are new fans joining every day. This show is still going strong and the actors are becoming more recognized all the time.I can't turn on the tube these days without seeing one of the beloved crew of Serenity on some show and that's a good thing. I think one thing that bothers the browncoats more is the question WHY! Why isn't there some active persuit of getting this show up and running again? Not only would I be there to ring in a new series ( even to the point of missing work) but I wouldn't be alone. Not only that, I would be there to snap up the second season of FF when it hit the store shelves in a heartbeat.I think the people who canned this show were wrong and they know it and they are doing everything in their power to makes people think it wasn't a mistake. I have yet to come across a boss to admit to being wrong.They think that if they cast water on the flame that the heat will go away. Not so, this loved tv show is still picking up speed.Joss has said something about the magic being lost, well I think they can get it back. It will take work. Things that are worthwhile always do but I think we can get THAT MAGIC back. I'm holdin and I know that so many browncoats are doing the same. I feel proud to be among that number. I'm still recruiting and want to say that that is going well.I can be alright if there isn't any more but we've shown all the media that it isn't about money. Not anymore. There's something else at work here. Me thinks the ALLIANCE has gotten their evil fangs into the necks of the browncoats and are milking every drop that they can. Just some thoughts.

Z

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:41 AM

BILLYBIGBALLS

No I will not be okay with that. I want more gorramit!

Isnt now a good time to step up the efforts and hit em with a new campaign. What Tudyk said was encouraging about Universal saying that DVD sales were so good that, they were considering a sequel.

I wasnt around back when you guys made Serenity happen and feel I let Firefly down, I wish I could of helped. Surely it aint over yet...dont stop now.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:18 AM

BADKARMA00

I guess in the long run, we'll have to be okay with it, if that's all we can get.

I admit I don't want to give up yet. I think that a new series is probably not going to happen, much as I would like to see it. A BDS is possible, I at least hope, but at this point no one has committed to saying 'yes, virginia, there will be a sequel'.

At the least, I hope we can see a series of novels about the crew, and the aftermath of Miranda. Not comics, or graphic novels, but real, honest to goodness novels, professionally written.

It's not the same, nor as good, but I'd take that over nothing, and figure most of you guys would too.

But I'm still hangin' in there!

Bad_karma

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 8:34 AM

RIVERFLAN

Quote:
Originally posted by zzetta13:
Firefly is more popular now than a lot of what is on television today.
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I think the people who canned this show were wrong and they know it and they are doing everything in their power to makes people think it wasn't a mistake. I have yet to come across a boss to admit to being wrong.

Reading that, I just had a maybe-brilliant thought: Imagine someone up in the cooperation saying "Yeah, we cancelled Firefly, but look what's happened now, it's booming, it's all part of the plan, we're going to put it back in the air now". It would allow them to gloss it over and allow us to watch our boloved show! Is it a false hope, or could we convince them that that's the right way to go?

As for the topic...

Quote:
Originally posted by BillyBigBalls:

I wasnt around back when you guys made Serenity happen and feel I let Firefly down, I wish I could of helped. Surely it aint over yet...dont stop now.

Same with me. But now that I've finally found Firefly, I'm not going to give up. I will hold, and hold untill Joss himself says to give up. And even then I'd have a long, involved disscussion to try to convince him to not give up, and recruit people better at arguing then me to help out.

Only if it will be good, though. I would rather have this wonderful spark then have a long, dragged out ending with no magic in it.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 5:46 PM

ANONYMOUS1

Quote:
Originally posted by embers:
Joss still has these voices in his head, and the only way he gets them out is by finding the means to tell the stories. Sooner or later he will find the means. I really believe that.

YES! And from the commentary and what Jewel said on her myspace page, the actors love working with Joss and love Firefly/Serenity.

The more people see of our Big Darn Heroes work, the more they want to see of our Big Darn Heroes work...which leads them back to Firefly/Serentiy.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:44 PM

CHRISTHECYNIC

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
If FF/Serenity is all we get, can it still remain that one shining moment in time when all was shiny and perfect- like a first love...can we all be okay with that?

Would I, at some hypothetical point in the future when all hope of seeing Serenity fly again has been utterly crushed, still be able to be happy that I got to see Firefly and Serenity? Yes.

I will always be happy that I got them and I will always cherish them.

Will I be ok with that? I'm not sure. What does, "Okay," mean? I'll never think what happened is optimal. I can think of no reason why I would ever look back on the situation and feel that Firefly being canceled was anything other than shitty.

That said it will always be shiny, and it will always be the perfect thing that it is now. If the moment comes when all hope is lost, I'm sure that will outweigh the disappointment surrounding the lack of other shiny perfection.

But the thing is, the important thing is, I have no intention of seeing that moment. I do not plan to go gentle into that good night (and if anyone has any advice on how to avoid it I'm all ears.)

The fight ain't over yet.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 6:54 PM

REDSPARROW

If that's all we get, I'll take it.

But like has been said, it ain't over yet. And I'm not about to give in. Ever.

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Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:17 PM

BROWNCOAT2007

Here Here and I'm with y'all 120% on the "it being amazing for what we have, and not being sad with it"

However, if it takes a ruttin' siege of the Fox Network, all Joss has to do is say the word and I will be there... LOVE this show, I will NOT let it die on my watch

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 8:56 AM

DRU

No.

I think there is a chance of another movie, if we keep the pressure up. While we wait, why not explore other mediums to tell the story. Why not do audio stories with the actors? They did that with Doctor Who and Dark Shadows. The comics are good, but I would prefer novels.

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 12:48 PM

STRANGEBIRD

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I would prefer novels.

I would have to second that DRU. I read more than I game and watch TV or movies and if a series written by a good author based on Joss's input were ever done I would read them many times over. I'd purchase both hardcover(for initial read then display) and paperback(possibly more than one for multiple reads and wear and tear).

For me the comics are ok but I've never been a huge comic book fan. Really only ever into some of the Marvel series(Spider-man, Daredevil, Fantastic Four, X-men) But I never could keep up and eventually just quit buying them. I'm more interested in Adam Hughes' Artwork on the cover than the "so short it's unsatisfying" story and wildly hit-n-miss panel art. I would be more into a longer series with a different artist. No offense to the current artist... you just don't GET the characters the majority of the time.

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 2:16 PM

RIVERFLAN

From what I've heard of comics, about series and sub-series and arriving in a skewed order, that mess isn't worth it. The only graphic novels I have read have been of the Manga type, and I love them, but that's beside the point. I havn't read our own grapic novel, and I'm not sure I want to, because 2D drawings can't do as good a job at being the characters as the real actors. I would much prefer books, as we can fill in the images and the tones of delivered lines and things like that, plus it would be longer

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Sunday, December 30, 2007 2:48 PM

STRANGEBIRD

Plus novels aren't quite as geeky as those of the graphic variety.

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Monday, December 31, 2007 5:37 PM

EVILDEAD1971

i think there are too many people who love the verse. you can't stop the signal

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Tuesday, January 1, 2008 9:49 AM

SPACEGIRL32

I'm fine if we never see another Serenity Movie or TV series.

I gain a lot from being a Browncoat. More then I ever would expect;

I have meet many of our BDHs, went to some great Shindigs, gave to a lot of great charities, an
add most of all.....made some wonderful friends.

I have read some awesome fanfic to help me fullfill the missing parts of 'verse. There are a lot of talented people around here.

I'm happy & I hope everyone else is happy. I'm ready to move on and see what 2008 brings.

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