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Originally posted by Meneluin:
The Man Show is an odd thing. While it has every right to exist, that doesn't hide the fact that it is disgusting and degrading on some level. What's even worse is what it can do to the mind of an impressionable person watching it. It's hard not to think you need to look/act a certain way after watching something like that.

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Originally posted by Hero:

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Originally posted by Meneluin:
The Man Show is an odd thing. While it has every right to exist, that doesn't hide the fact that it is disgusting and degrading on some level. What's even worse is what it can do to the mind of an impressionable person watching it. It's hard not to think you need to look/act a certain way after watching something like that.

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Wow. I feel exactly the same way about the Oprah show.

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Originally posted by Hero:


Wow. I feel exactly the same way about the Oprah show.

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As long as you don't try to 'wall off' a man's essential nature from his married behavior

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Originally posted by zoid:
Sanmi:

I like the original "Man Show" with Jimmie Kimmel and Adam Carolla; the new hosts, not nearly so much. I've also liked "The Daily Show" since its inception. But I realize that these shows are exaggerating issues for the sake of comedy, and doing it well.

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Originally posted by zoid:


As to your other concerns, my advice is that guys are visually motivated; but, not exclusively driven by images. Say -- for instance -- you like cooking shows; are you going to seriously cook then eat everything presented on your favorite show? Probably not (although you might commit the instructions to paper). Just because they're on the menu, that doesn't mean you've got to try them all. Same with virtually every guy. We like pretty girls; but it doesn't mean we want to touch 'em, especially if we've been lucky enough to find a woman who'll tolerate us on a long-term basis. But being tolerant is as key to any relationship as is being sensitive to the other person's feelings.

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Originally posted by zoid:


With any luck, you'll find someone with a decent soul (especially since physical beauty eventually fades), and forgive them their minor errors. Emotional or physical abuse, or infidelity are not minor, and a decision would be required. Looking at a little cheesecake -- or beefcake for the ladies (some guys?) -- without sticking a finger in for a surreptitious taste, is only natural and should not be taken as a crushing defeat to your self-image. It only means that your significant other has a healthy appetite and the correct sexual orientation for your relationship. (Edit, for clarification) If your 'man-animal' likes curling up next to you on the settee with a cup of cocoa while y'all debate the merits of Brad Pitt's buns or Ben Affleck's eyes, there's probably a storm on your horizon. (End edit)

As long as you don't try to 'wall off' a man's essential nature from his married behavior, and he makes concessions to your essential needs by including you in his emotional life, it's fairly easy for two folks to become partners for life. You've got to have your own self-esteem though, not just become a satellite of the other person; one must be a viable entity on their own, before they are ready to enter a partnership of equals.

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Respectfully,

zoid
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Originally posted by Ghoulman:
I believe the Brits are refering to things such as the Man Show as "lout culture". Pretty clever those Brits.

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