Tim Minear On Board For Serenity Sequel, also Tim talking about Wonderfalls. by outlander

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Tim Minear On Board For Serenity Sequel, also Tim talking about Wonderfalls.

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Tuesday, April 20, 2004 11:24 PM

According to an interview Tim Minear did on The Succubus Club radio show. Tim and Joss Whedon have talked about Tim returning to Firefly for the sequel to Serenity, assuming there will be one, nock on wood. Tim talks for about 2 hours mostly about Wonderfalls. Download the 21MB MP3 below to hear the show. At about 1hr 28min he talks about Serenity.

http://www.thesuccubusclub.com/mp3/succubus_apr07_2004.mp3

Reading between the lines does this mean that Firefly will not be return to TV and is now destined to become a movie series, nock on wood?

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 1:56 PM

OUTLANDER

I guess you guys didn't pick up on this Tim Minear is saying in this iterview that if Serenity does well he and Joss Whedon will be doing a sequel movie.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:15 PM

SERGEANTX

Hopefully the sequel will be on HBO, and there'll be one every week.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 4:58 PM

RKLENSETH

I hope note because I don't want to have to pay for HBO.

Imagine the possibilities if Serenity is a successful movie (and it will, we know it). There may be a new tv series, more feature bid screen movies, comic books, books, action figures, halloween costumes, Jayne drinks this beer advertisements. The list could go on and on.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:05 PM

SERGEANTX

Quote:
Originally posted by rklenseth:
I hope note because I don't want to have to pay for HBO.

Imagine the possibilities if Serenity is a successful movie (and it will, we know it). There may be a new tv series, more feature bid screen movies, comic books, books, action figures, halloween costumes, Jayne drinks this beer advertisements. The list could go on and on.

Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net

ewwww. I dunno, I'd do anything to avoid having my Firefly interrupted with bullsh*t commercials. I don't even have cable, but if its on HBO it'll be free from the the pressures broadcast networks shackle on a show.... As far as all the other stuff, well it kind of makes me queasy. Don't know why, maybe I just don't want to see Firefly as the next pop fad.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:29 PM

MAKEROFPATHS

"Every week." High five on that.

I don't think Firefly will reach the sickening heights of Star Warsian trinket development. Should there be any souvenirs and promotional items, and I don't see why not, I'm thinking they'll be somewhat tasteful. So I wouldn't mind showing off my Serenity umbrella or wearing my Serenity shoulder bag with Chinese wishes for peace and harmony.

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Thursday, April 22, 2004 5:47 PM

THECLAPS

Woah, I personally hope Firefly returns to us on TV, as in EVERY WEEK! I'm not going to wait years for each installment! This is of course assuming that the movie would be good, but not nearly as good as it could be in my living room every week, with Kaylee there to keep me company.

Wasn't the plan to bring it back to TV?

Ain't. We. Just.

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Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:50 PM

AMNESIAC

Eek! No sequels.

One movie, and that's all I want. Then I want the television show back. You usually have to wait two years at least between sequels. There is no way to cram as much depth into the relationships between the characters in a movie rather than in televison. The main reason to watch firefly is the well crafted characters and setting that lend themselves to exploring multiple themes every week. That aspect of Firefly is lost in a movie format.

Movie=2hrs firefly every two years.
or...
Television= 18hrs of firefly every 1 year.

I like the second option better.

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Friday, April 23, 2004 5:14 AM

HORRID

add onto that the fact we'd probably only get 3 movies max compaed to a possible 6-7 seasons of the series

on a side note, has Joss made any kind of a statement since the anouncement about serenity being greenlighted was made?

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Friday, April 23, 2004 6:39 AM

MAKEROFPATHS

Quote:
Originally posted by horrid:

on a side note, has Joss made any kind of a statement since the anouncement about serenity being greenlighted was made?

Not a thing that I've seen. The only official words from the Mutant Enemy offfice have come from that affable chap, president Chris Buchanan. His words are somewhere in an earlier thread here.

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Friday, April 23, 2004 8:05 AM

BROWNCOAT1

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

A sequel does not necessarily mean no television series, it just means that Tim & Joss are talking and making plans for a sequel if one happens.

I do like the fact that Joss is confident enough of the movie's success that he is already talking about a sequel. Let's hope he carries that same confidence in the pursuit of the "springboard" to tv that Universal mentioned when they had Joss rewrite the script.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Friday, April 23, 2004 8:11 AM

BOBOTHEBRAVE

The thing is, if there was a TV series, I'm skeptical that there'd be much Joss or Tim involvement. If the movie's successful, Joss will probably turn most of his energy towards film (particularly given how bitter about TV he's been sounding since "Angel" got cancelled), and TIm has been saying that he's more interested in working on a show that he creates. Also, does anyone know if Nathan Fillion would be able to do a TV series, given that multiple-show contract he has with NBC?

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Friday, April 23, 2004 5:44 PM

MAKEROFPATHS

Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
A sequel does not necessarily mean no television series, it just means that Tim & Joss are talking and making plans for a sequel if one happens.

;-) Joss may say sequel, implying movie, but he may mean TV series.

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 12:58 AM

OUTLANDER

If you listen to the rest of the interview you will find that Tim Minear talks about doing his own cable TV project so I think that Tim would only be involved if it was a movie because a TV series would be too much of a commitment for him. Also if the movie is successful it might make the cast to expensive to sign on for a TV series.

I think that Joss Wedon would only plan for a TV series if he had some kind of commitment from a network otherwise he would sign him self and the cast up for a three movie deal.

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 1:36 AM

CARDIE

There's also another factor involved in whether it is a sequel movie rather than a tv series. Universal, who are the ones currently investing in the Firefly universe, were only able to make a deal with Joss to develop films for them. He still has obligations under his deal with 20th-Century Fox studios (not FOX network) to develop tv series. It may well be that part of the deal involved indications from Fox that there wasn't an intention to bring it back for tv, thus allowing Universal to continue the franchise and reap the ancillary benefits of its success.

Cardie

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 4:20 AM

ECGORDON

There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.

One thing Tim makes clear in this interview is that his contract with 20th was extended for just a year for Wonderfalls, then who knows? Which leads to the question of how much longer Joss' contract with them runs. Why would Universal ask him to rewrite the Serenity script as a springboard to revive the series if they were not going to be able to develop it as a series? And if they can develop it as a series, but he is tied to 20th for TV shows, does that mean it will no longer be Joss' show?

Another thing, it is okay for us to say what we want to happen, but let's be realistic. Even Joss is not going to have that much control over what happens after Serenity, it'll be the suits at U that will decide what will happen.

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Sunday, April 25, 2004 4:25 AM

EMBERS

I've been wondering about this myself...
I always understood that cancelling a show means that the contract is at an end
(which might be why they wanted to sign Joss to a NEW contract to write potential made for TV movies, to make sure they still owned him)

But contracts are weird and complicated things, even if we had a copy of it, it might still be unclear!

I'm just hoping that when 'Serenity' is released it is a big surprise hit! It doesn't have to make Star Wars money to be considered a huge hit, because it isn't that expensive to make. Actually if he just makes 'My Big Fat Greek Wedding' money it will be considered a major movie break-through...

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Monday, April 26, 2004 2:56 AM

QUICKSAND

Not too interested in 'Wonderfalls,' but this is still a pretty useless piece of gossip.

If and when a second 'Firefly' is greenlighted, Tim will either have another show, or have a movie of his own he'll be working on. This is YEARS away, people, remember that. 2007 or 2008 at the earliest.

I can't even predict what I'll have for lunch tomorrow.

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Monday, April 26, 2004 4:16 AM

OUTLANDER

I think that the wording is the thing that has confused you. I believe that Joss was asked to write Serenity as if it was a pilot to a new series, meaning that the story can continue beyond Serenity. I think Serenity is supposed to be a pilot to a movie series not a TV series. Joss had originally wrote Serenity as a conclusion to Firefly but I think Universal where interested in turning Firefly into a Movie/TV franchise like Star Trek.

If you think about it, after Universal does three movies any contract with Fox for a TV series will have ended leaving the door open for Universal to do a Serenity spin-off/series on the Sci-Fi Channel just like they have done with Battlestar Galactica and Tremors. I was going to say Stargate but I don't think Universal own the rights to Stargate.

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Monday, April 26, 2004 4:37 AM

ZOID

G'morning, fellow Browncoats:

It's my Saturday (ATC is a perfectly lovely job), I hope y'all had a nice weekend. My wife, Kayley (no joshin') gets on a plane to go home to bury her mom tomorrow morning. She'll be gone for 8 days, all the way back home to Newmarket, East Anglia, England, UK (the World, the Universe), and I'll be suspended in a state of emotional desolation until she returns...

I know it's crazy, but sometimes crazy ideas come of age and become the norm. I'd like to see Firefly: Serenity do really well at the box office. Following that success, I'd like to see a 5-part (10-hour) miniseries, direct-to-DVD every year in the Christmas buying season. You could offset the DVD's release by say six months, then show the miniseries on SciFi as a 'World Television Premiere!', during summer rerun doldrums. Every other year a new theatrical release movie in August-October timeframe, in addition to the yearly miniseries (released Nov-Jan).

In this way Firefly does not compete with the ethical cancer that is 'reality...'. '...TV'. And, unless somebody produces the dubious "Temptation Island the Movie" or other such drivel, mindless voyeurism stays where it apparently has made itself at home: network television. If the movie(s) make money, there'd be good viewership for the minis on SciFi, without tying up a time slot they could otherwise be using for 6-hour blocks of StarGate: Try To Guess Which Season You're Watching.

In fact, if the one-two punch of movies and minis does well enough (and who here doubts it will?), ME/Universal might get the minis on a Big 3 network. Popular movie(s) + brisk DVD sales for everything Firefly related + 'world television premiere' tag for minis + truly devoted international fanbase = dollar signs in eyes of TV programmers. Especially since they don't have to commit to a full season of quality TV; they can keep their regular slots open for "Sleeping With the Neighbors", a 'reality...'. '...TV' series based on the premise that 10 neighboring husbands must sleep with as many of the wives in their community as possible, while keeping their own wife as chaste as possible and not getting shot in the process. At series end, watch the sparks fly as the wives turn in their scorecards and critiques! Wacky fun...

Movie(s) and minis, at least until the TV-watching public realizes the soul-sucking 'reality' it is being subjected to, and we can get quality back into the medium.

Respectfully,

zoid
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